The Secretive Book That Names All the Cheaters in Vegas
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"Cheating" is defined by the casinos as "winning." No joke. A casino will allow you to lose as much as you want, as quickly as you want, but if you start winning too much or too quickly, you are banned for "cheating." What happens in Las Vegas isn't actually gambling, since gambling implies there is luck involved. There is no luck in Las Vegas casinos. They literally ban good luck. You are only allowed to lose.
Yeah. the various electronic machines even have a configuration option for 'how much profit do you want?'
You do need luck if you don't know what you're doing
Wrong
@@Rex2k10 i think drunk player are more profitable, some casino offer cheap/ free drinks making player less aware
Well, the odds are against you so it is almost guaranteed that you'll run dry eventually. If that doesn't happen, they know you found a loophole or a cheat.
Entering all students from a certain university to a database of casino cheaters seems like an illegal privacy violation and illegal defamation. Weird they weren't sued for that, but I guess most students didn't know about that.
Deep pockets I'm sure.
Just rejecting people from entering your place is not illegal
@zeroyuki922 - did you watch the video? Griffin entered all MIT students into their database. A database of criminals and cheaters.
Imagine that 80 people from your city/town stole a car, so an arbitrary organisation gathers data on all other citizens of the city and lists them as potential car thieves. Nice, isn't it?
It would really stink if a group of students who didn’t know about the situation planned an unrelated trip to Vegas only to be tossed out.
Also, if this was in the 90’s, odds are they got the info from a printed campus directory of some sort, meaning the names and addresses of thousands of students probably had to be entered by hand each year.
1:25
About 150 years of age, 7’9”, stocky build, noticable plane obsession
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@Llama Momma that's example text in latin
@@Napert "Lorem Ipsum" isn't Latin.
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That’s honestly stupid. Casinos are banning people just because they are using math. Card counting shouldn’t be banned.
Their business. They can do what they want.
@@Valyssi It seems to me that they have a vested interest in NOT ruining that industry given that, ya know, they are the industry
Actually, they cans till do what they want to a certain extent.
Jesse Ward Well but to be listed in the “criminal” list that makes you ban from literally 80% of Las Vegas then i’d sue them tbh
@@willisbronze9984 You can't sue them for that.
$25,000 made them bankrupt? christ, they needed to charge more.
Came here to say this.
$25K plus legal fees perhaps?
Do these people not have insurance?
Or perhaps their reputation took such a hard hit they lost basically all of their customers.
these people save casinos 100's of millions $25,000 is nothing in this industry.
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start
*pistol shot*
This reference makes me happy.
You dig?
Ring a ding baby
Ring a ding indeed. I'm diggin' it.
Casinos have the only games where being good is considered “cheating”
Le Derp still true
I mean, any game played with a young child...
any competitive game*
Except for the IRS, obviously.
It seems like the Griffith Book is more of a database of people who have a potential risk of repeatably lose the Casinos money rather than a book of cheaters.
to casinos, that’s the same thing
Card counting's just playing well, Casinos just like to pretend it's cheating because they don't like players winning.
i dont understand why they dont just have completely random cards... if they are so concerned with people counting them
@@Graymenn I'm guessing you don't know how counting cards works.
Anhure I understand how it works.... and if they have random cards... then it would not work because it relies on a fixed number of certain cards....
@@Graymenn At that point you're playing a different game. And if you're doing that and not telling the players, THAT is cheating.
@@MuchWhitteringdon't they use multiple decks? I would assume the more decks you use, the harder it is to count... wouldn't it just be a natural extension of that?
My math teacher in my school was part of the original MIT counting cards team. He’s SUPER chill and really nice. He has a doctorate. Just wanted to add that
1:39 "[...] with Kevin Spacey who's clearly a good actor since he convincingly played a law abiding, moral citizen"
I died.
thing is, thats exactly what he wasnt in that movie
oh its you
Shit fam, hope you got better.
I would love to get banned from all the casinos because I am too smart.
It's good for bragging rights
Im sure most people on that list would prefer not being banned. Lmao
"Hey, if you can use your brain cells, you're banned from Vegas soz"
Part of the game is concealing what you are doing.
i know its business but counting cards should be part of the deal. its like banning football teams for studying the enemy teams weakness and abuse them. its part of the game to any advantage you can without breaking the rules of the game itself.
For that reason, card counting (as long as no outside people or technology are used) is not cheating. Some casinos may escort you out anyway, but it is not illegal to count cards if you only use your brain to do it. Edit: Just realized that he mentioned exactly what I said in the video lol.
The issue is, that the casinos don't want a fair game like a football team might. They just want your money. The house always wins, and if you try to change than, they kick you out.
there better be a plane in this video
:thonk: 1:24 noticable plane obsession
How about a toyota carola?
*T H O N K*
1:24 plane obbsession in desc
Why?
Casino Owners: people losing all their money, getting STDs, or getting murdered: I sleep
People winning games through their own intelligence instead of luck: REAL SHIT
Nah cause they're cheating because they not telling the other players.
@@darealist690 or other people are just too stupid to learn
@@tonyshen8543 not really but ok 🙂
Griffin Investigations should rebrand as CheatGeek.
Marketing mind
Now that I think about it CheatSeek is much better.
Ticket resellers are a big cheat tbh
Hahahah you were at 666 likes and I made it 667
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The Secretive Book That Lists All Justin Y. Comments on TH-cam
You watch anime
Mayonnaise Musician hmm... how many libraries does it take up?
ikr
If you arrange them alphabetically by the first word in each comment, you'd have a thousand pages on J.
I managed to block that guy, thank god.
Gross-jean? no! it's Gro-shaun.
To be fair, groshaun had gross jeans
Grosjean, aka "The Person Who Blame Someone That Hit His Car Who Didn't Even Close With Him"
@@shafwandito4724 What a mental guy!
Shafwan Dito Ericssons Fault!!
“Mate what was that?" "SHUT UP!"
Gross-jean? Wow even Ericsson crashed into your spelling capabilities
Romain crashed straight into my mind when I heard him say that
I knew I'd find someone in here.
PS - Its Radillion, actually
@@Ojas5 never thought I'd find that sentence in a hai video
No, just no.
Nice comment :)
1:24 150 years old, 7ft 9 ok then
„Noticable plane obsession” lol
Asef Jamil Ajwad easter egg ?
Asef Jamil Ajwad just checked it one is „sam from Wendover” and other one is showmakers or something like that
Absolute unit.
version 2 🤔
My dad got banned from the tables once because he won $10000 in less than ten minutes. he was in college and drunk as hell and they were so confused that they made him cash out and left him in the high rollers bar for three hours while they tried to figure out how he had cheated... He didn't, he just got drunk luck.
title shoulda been “why all mit students got banned from casinos”
3:25 did you just say wig snatched?😂😂
finally someone noticed it :😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I was looking for this comment 😂
Came to the comments for this 😂
Amazing
Fun Fact: The New Jersey Supreme Court ruled that Atlantic City casinos cannot remove people for card counting. So go nuts!
True, but they can still set betting limits on individual players that make it impossible to gain an advantage by card counting
1:15 they’re just sliding through their Mac desktops.
I feel like if the right lawyers and people did it they could probably have a law put in place that wont allow the discrimination based on someones mathematical ability. I mean their buisness model is based on gambling. They after all gamble their money on whether or not someone will lose, just because they arent smart enough to come up with a more complex system doesnt mean people that are smart enough should be handicapped.
Aren't businesses allowed to refuse to serve someone though?
Yea im not saying i have a right answer I'm just decent at math and counting cards is very easy so it is a advantage I have being taken away just because they cant figure out ways around it. (Actually they have for counting cards they just add more decks) Casinos are in a special position and I think context is key not all buisness are the same and not all should be treated the same. But I'm not educated enought on the fallout of changing buisness practices to offer any solution
The casino lobby tends to be pretty powerful, they get the rules they want.
I'm studying mathematical statistics and I can confirm that there are actually a lot of Casino-based probability problems, though these people are really highly capable in math because that involves a lot of calculus.
Many Casinos could potentially get into a lot of trouble if people started to take action against all the unfair or especially the immoral things many casinos do.
Damn that Kevin Spacey shade.🤣
Better call him a great actor, an advantage player but try not to commit libel.
you mega gay
:12 "a haven for construction workers on the Hoover Dam"
"When I got this assignment, I thought there'd be more gambling."
After you said: "their site hasn't been updated since the early 2000's". I thought you were gonna say, "They should rebuild it with squarespace! 10% off today!" XD
I was in a casino one time and I was asked by casino staff to show my ID randomly as I was walking around, supposedly it was to see if I was old enough to be there, but with the weird way the staff held my ID, I think they were checking it with the “eye in the sky” to make sure I wasn’t in the Griffin Book or something
They do that a lot. If they are thinking about banning you permanently, they want to get a picture of your ID so they can use it against you if you ever return.
@@sexygeek8996 The funny thing is, I don’t know what they could have banned me on. I played a couple of their movie tie in slot machines, ate at their food court, then waited on my family to finish gambling.
So maybe me not gambling “enough” seemed suspicious?
@@Abdega A common accusation is that it looks like you are searching for credits on the machines, which they treat as the ultimate evil. Sometimes somebody working in the casino has a grudge against you or they are acting on some kind of prejudice. They may cover it up by with the aforementioned accusation of looking for credits. It is also possible that they really did think you could be under 21. They are strict about that because they can get fined if they allow someone under 21 to play.
Here in sin city, we have a museum and there is a cabinet with artifacts related to cheating and how they were used, such as a “frankenstein bill” made with a hundred dollar bill and a one dollar bill. The edges of the 100 and 1 are cut off and the 100 edges are put on the center of the 1
That’s why you always play poker.
You can advantage play without the house getting mad
Poker is an art form.
The greatest episode of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is centered around it: "D'Arby the Gambler, Part 2."
The first part is great too, but the poker's in the second episode.
Seriously, it's a fantastic episode, and makes poker look super-thrilling, going through all the meta involved.
Poker is a magical game. Everyone I meet who says they play poker also says they make a profit from it. Noone seems to pay more than they gain.
@@coldsnap5742 I like the way you think;)
The chumps are The ones WHO lose
When you said "brilliant" at 3:12, I thought that was your segue to a Brilliant ad. :-D
Justin Y commented literally 8 minutes after the video released 🤯
I swear he is all over youtube
The way he works is he has hundreds and hundreds of channels on notification. The _instant_ a video goes up, he goes over and posts a generic, meaningless comment without bothering watch the video, usually based on nothing except the video's title. Then he uses a bot to give himself a handful of votes to make sure the algorithm moves his comment to the top. After that he just waits for the idiot teenyboppers and mouth-breathing subnormals to throw thumbs at him and push actual, legitimate comments down into oblivion. He is everything which is wrong with social media in general and TH-cam in particular.
Didn't really notice him. But I am annoyed by Master Therion and his stupid puns.
I was banned from the SciShow channels for complaining about Master Therion. Big channels which rely on money from large numbers of idiot subscribers love people like Master Therion and Justin Y. and New Message because they attract lots of very stupid people and encourage participation from them. It turns the comments into the most cancerous sort of imbecilic chit-chat imaginable, but it aids the all-important "audience engagement" metric in TH-cam's algorithm.
This means channels who hold their users in complete contempt as worthless morons, like SciShow, actively encourage parasites like Master Therion by banning anyone who makes too big a fuss about them.
+Unknown Enemy Malignant narcissism.
And it's surprisingly easy to game the system. You'll never find a Justin Y. comment with no votes because the first thing he does is use his bots to give himself a handful of thumbs. Once that happens, because he's one of the very first (if not the absolute first) commenters, the algorithm decides his comment is high-quality because of its popularity and moves it to the top, showing it first to every person who reads the comments, which means he starts collecting even more up-thumbs. He only needs a few thumbs at the very beginning to get the ball rolling.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace
I think he's doing that as a publicity stunt to gain subscribers
Imagine if the Griffins made a door making company, maybe it would've been named *Griffindoor* or something idk
Imagine seeing somebody’s fake name but it’s Napoleon Bonerfart
What 9th Season? There is no 9th season. The last season is season 8.
There is no 9th season. No.
That’s the joke.
*r / w o o o o s h*
What 9th season? Such thing does not exist. That poster was just a pitch for a potentially terrible reboot that, again, never happened.
Are you fucking high, altrogeruvah?
@@paxhumana2015 r u ok
The pronunciation of "Gross-Jean" is almost hard to hear. He's probably French which means it would be "Grow-Jawn", like the Formula 1 driver.
For some reason I thought it was going to be a book of people who came to Vegas and cheated on their significant other with prositutes. This makes so much more sense.
I want this book
And *WIGS* snatched.🤣
Wait THAT'S what card counting is. That's just using strategy! I've played a few home games of poker and blackjack, and although I wasn't that good at it, I tried my best to remember what cards have already been played and what were currently out. I thought that was how good card players won!
1:27 “About 150 years of age”
“Noticable plane obsession” lmao
I know someone who was in the 21 group. He showed me how to count cards and now I am a god at blackjack.
1:25 "Noticeable plane obsession" 😂
Dootha
What's dootha?
DOOTHA ARTILLERY ONLY CHALLENGE
Do artillery only challenge
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3:57 "a cardbender, meaning that he has the power to TELEKINETICALLY influence cards" :D
Hailing from the card nation.
"Imagine a business where people hand you money and in return you hand them... nothing." -Ricky Tan, Rush Hour 2
The courier who broke the bank
As a wise casino owner said: "The house always wins"
The biggest crime in las Vegas is the ticket prices
Las Vegas shooting: *cries in gunshots*
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1:42 LMAO NO MERCY
The way you said Grosjean tells me you have never watched F1. As a hint to the correct pronunciation, it's French
"Nerds that lose us money", I love it
Wow I did not expect that sudden jab thrown at Kevin spacey lmaooo
Do artillery only
Slot Machines. Roulette Tables. Cards. Sports. Long ago, the four gambling nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Card Nation attacked.
thank you so much for including that 'wigs snatched' joke
I'm glad you said something about scrubs season 9
The secretive book that lists all the people who reply ‘oof’ to serious messages.
oof
NineDeath his message wasn't serious though.....
There's even this gambler named J. D'arby who gambles peoples with their souls.
Before today I thought that card counting was extremely complicated but in reality it's just statistics and knowing the odds of going over 21 or falling short
LOL James Grosjean. He didn't need to cheat the house. He's a fucking dwarf. He's literally 4'11. Almost impossible for a dealer not to expose the card when the guy is eye-level with the table.
Peter Griffin isn’t this smart.
Good point
Wrong griffin...
FINALLY a proper sponsor which is worth looking into
“and wigs snatched”
3:57 "...also a cardbender, meaning that he has the power to telekinetically influence cards. Hailing from the Card Nation..." Cute.
Can you do artillery only?
LMAO THE CARDBENDER HAILING FROM THE CARD NATION 3:59
I feel like these days, so what if Vegas casinos blackball you... there's Reno casinos, there's Atlantic City casinos, there's tons of tribal casinos, there's Canadian casinos... it can't be hard to find a place that hasn't blackballed you if you aren't limited to one greater city area.
Wait a sec at 1:28 it says your name and your 2 channels and it said plus 2 others, one is your personal channel, but what’s the other?
What are you planning?
One year of Half as interesting
That scrubs dig was glorious
gros-jean LOL
Griffin?
Me: Gryffindor
That scrubs season 9 bit hurts too much, but great video, thanks.
YESSSS “and wigs snatched”
Ave! True to Caesar!
I don’t gamble but I do cheat on test
You will be banned from making tests :D
The best advice I have ever been given:
1. Have a budget
2. Leave the moment you strike it big
Heres a much better advice: Dont gamble and invest your money in a way where you have guaranteed profit.
3:26 THEY GOT THAT WEAVE SNATCHED
Wow... this all sounds so illegal... I mean, such a database. How is that ever compliant with privacy law? And having casinos telling each other who they should ban? Sounds like a breach of competition law. And banning people for being good at the game?? Ehm... discrimination maybe... But o well, it's the US I guess...
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I love the editor. they sneaked a bit of Latin in there and that was fun to translate
1:27 AKA wendover productions about 150 years of age, noticeable plane obsession
I found this video _Half as Interesting_ compared to other videos of this channel
(Maybe because there was no humour)
What are you talking about? There were plenty of jokes in the video?
4:24 F1 fans are triggered
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Groh-jon
OHHHH!! That Spacey burn is insane.
Things I never thought I would hear Sam from Wendover say: "...and their wigs snatched"
Wouldn't it be more of a database?
Maybe?
Wow you got a life
Maybe if you WATCHING THE FUCKING VIDEO ya jackass.
Jayfive276 I hope you realize you got like double whoooosed, 1. This guy is known for commenting on a lot of videos 2. it’s a joke
Justin Y. Hello I wanna is your day to what do I do
Accidentally became early
Some say that the inexperienced card dealer was called Ericsson. Marcus Ericsson.
this would have been a great chance to make some punny joke about your channel in regards to the gambling town of West Wendover, NV. Surprised you missed the opportunity. Very entertaining content as always, thanks for the awesome vids!
There is no one who seeks pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain.
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1:27 the description is hilarious.
150 years old, 7"9 and a plane obsession haha
That burn on Kevin Spacey DAMN Sam :D
I never thought I'd hear Sam say "wig snatched" tbh
When you said Kevin Spacey was in the movie I died inside 😂