Please let me know your thoughts on the current market conditions for classic trucks and where you think they are heading over the next few years. My hope is up, up, and up!
I think that More and more people will start fixing and driving older vehicles because a new vehicle is not worth the high price that they want for it.
The ONLY reason any auto prices spiked during 2020/21 was stimulus money. Reality is setting in and values will continue to drop for all but the most perfect trucks. High gas prices also bring prices down. Very few people are buying those trucks to drive more than a couple times a year. Cheap money has destroyed real prices and now people who bought foolishly during the hype are paying the price.
I have a 76 f250 460 ranger super cab long box 2wd that I paid 1500 CAD for then drove home just over 9 hours. I installed a cam and all the bolt ons and swapped in a zf5. It's been my daily driver for 4 years now. I've only got about 6 or 7 grand CAD into it now and still tests 147/148 on all cylinders. My kids love it. I'll have that truck until gas engines are banned!
@@DentsideDepot I pulled mine out of an 88 f450 logging truck with 380k on it. Didn't rebuild it just threw it in my truck and now it's got around 450+ lol
These prices were a surprise. The last 79 xlt ranger i bought 2009 was $1500 no rust 4x4 rebuild c6 and 351m to 400 4in lift and 33 12.50r15 on it. The most i ever payed was 4k on a 80 in 1991
@@DentsideDepot i know. And to be fair I in a rule part of fl. So that probably effects price somewhat. There's still a lot of the classic trucks used as daily drivers still. I am actually looking around for a good one to use a a daily myself. I really don't like new trucks. The 07 f150 5.4 was the last new one I had. And they bought it back under the lemon law. The first year I had it the dealership shop had it 185 days. It left me stranded more than anything else I ever owned. And I have not had new since then. And will never consider a ford that newer than the square front. Really prefer the early bullnose and older. You could still get the 351m/ 400 up to 82 .
People are tapped out and don't have enough cash for a house, who besides rich people are buying $80k trucks that are 50yrs old? The bank sure isn't giving the average person a loan for that amount, If they are the interest rates will be crazy.
I love the fact that you have so much love for Dentside Fords, because they are the greatest trucks ever made, and they also own my heart. My question to you is why don't you take the time to make one totally sweet?
I am doing that right now with the Cummins swap X36. I do not have any employees here and all the work is done by me, so one truck takes about 10 months to get done. Also, I have zero appreciation for perfect paint, I prefer patina trucks.
@@DentsideDepot If someone pays 40k for a paint job they are getting taken. I can't even think how you could even have 2k in materials in painting a pickup. The last triaxle dump I did here was somewhere like 1000 in materials and I paid the painter 500 for spraying it.
@@joecummings1260 Thats a low quality dump truck paint job. No offense, but clearly you are not well informed on what high quality show grade paint costs in materials and how many hours in labor it takes to prep out a truck and then wet sand. Of course you can paint a truck cheap, but then its just a cheap truck.
@@DentsideDepot$2k materials correct, if you buy yourself a bounce house and have a good gun (and some practice) you can save serious money on paint. I wouldn't want a show quality job on a dd anyway
Man I'm really glad I got my 79 F250 with a factory 460 for free. I've commented on one of your videos before I'm 14 and restoring my first truck to be my daily in a couple years. Really enjoy the videos. I was wondering if you could do a video on the different badges on these trucks. Mine's got 2 holes next to the 250 badge and it looks like it could have been one but not sure. There's nothing on the internet for this.
Or a 250 camper special or a trailer special or a lariat. Look up the distance of the holes and if even or of set the trailer special is offset . The other two are different length and there was some bigger dealers that had there name in cast metal and actually drilled holes in new trucks and cars . Side note when these trucks were sold new if you were a truck buyer you had to go to the dealership used car dealer and then go to the back of the used car lot to look at the new trucks and then very very few were sold just to ride in the sales department always ask what kind of business or work you planned to do with the truck regardless of what size truck you bought
A stationwagen is now also "vintage". And you can haul things dry, warm and things are less easy to steal. Truck market has become too crazy, pricing wise. It starts to kill itself.
@@DentsideDepotan El Camino with a top! Extended cab, Four Doors! Wonder if you could sucker someone in...but I'd be OK with a 427 in a 69 Chevy wagon
Great video I agree 100 percent the market is on the way down most people are holding on to their money unless it’s a fair deal I was at a car show today the prices I noticed were down but people thinking Covid pricing they were worth it but not cash money worth it and I had cash money lol
Think about what you paid for yours, what is was worth two years ago and then subtract 5k from it and you have today's value. I think that is where it is at. But dont sell it Chris!!!!
Canadian here. I just sold my 1979 SC 4x4 460cu truck for $20,000. Un-restored but was in super nice condition. Guy bought it in less than 24h. I was very happy.
Classic car market has always been volitile, old cars are optional for most people. I live in Kaliunicornia so smog laws complicate the market even more. Have a rusty '67 bumpside as a project & it is fun but not neccessary. If prices drop it gives me hope I might get an early 70's 4X4 someday, without having to build it myself.
They say CA is the classic car capital of the world, but as you stated its one of the worse places to be. All the nonsense going on out there is what is killing this country. Move to Texas!
Building/restoring is an expensive proposition. Those nice builds in the middle of the video are closer to $100,000 than $50,000 to "complete" (you're never really done). If you can buy them now for those 50-65k prices it's a good deal. I would hate to have to sell mine but it's good to see they are still worth something:)
I'm shocked by the prices people are paying for restoration services now. Given how simple these trucks are, and how plentiful parts supply for them is , paying over 30-40k for one that is "mint" or a 10 footer to me seems silly. That said i was looking for a good rust free single cab 4x4 about 7 years ago. They were resonable at the time in the 8-10 k, not sure what they spiked out at. But now they are around 20k in my part of the country, which I find absurd.
@rexradar9297 I hear ya!! I'm north of the boarder. A truck that is in restorable condition goes for about 20k (15k us) give or take. A frickin parts truck is 5k these days. 400 to 500 horse crate engine between 20 and 30k by the time you have it installed (depends how silly you want to get replacing bits and pieces. Old pieces look like crap beside new stuff no matter how much elbow grease you put in) trans and transfer case are another variable but still costly just to have reconditioned, paint + body varies wildly but expect at least 10k, interior is relatively inexpensive but still going to cost a few bucks, all the misc..brakes, bearings bushings, nuts, bolts, exhaust, tools the list goes on and on can add up to thousands. If your doing the work yourself as a hobby project expect it to take two years. Pay a shop and your looking at 100$ an hour (give or take) up here. 100k can creep up on ya real fast :)
$50-65k a good deal? Most households don’t have that in the bank at retirement. I guess for wealthy folks it’s not much money, but I’d think that’s the exception not the norm.
Oh man that 79' F350 xtra cab is a beauty! I do love my 79' F250 w/ swapped 429 and C6 combo. I've had it for about 15yrs now. Bought it for $3500, then. No interest in selling it. From what I am seeing vehicle markets across the board are in decline right now. I think it is mostly larger external market factors and is just part of the overall market cycle. We shall see where things go from here in the near future.
I am building a 1973 F250 4x4 highboy and I am putting a newly built 390 fe engine in it and going through it and putting in a brand new 78-79 power steering box I bought the frame kit for making it work I had to go get it and haul it back home 275 miles I love the original colors it has the lite blue paint on the bottom and the dark bahama blue on the top of the hood and body except for the top of the cab I am going to repaint it but I have to cut out rust spots over the beds fenders and I’ve bought panels for them and it’s has to have part of t passenger floor pan replace for rust but I have already purchased it also but the rest of the truck is pretty solid
My dreams of owning a 97 F350 CCLB 4x4 PSD were all but crushed when the market went crazy in 2019.5 till a year ago. I hope values go down on those trucks. Here’s to hoping
Looking at a '78 Supercab XLT. Rust free west Texas truck but doesn't run. Molding's missing and small dents over most of the body... asking $4500.00. Good price?
Back in the late 70's I remember someone buying a new Ford pick up. When I asked about the fuel consumption he said that he got 5 mpg. Now that is the Cdn gallon which is bigger than the US one. With the present price of fuel, that would turn into a large $ amount /mth. With the cash crunch affecting virtually everything, driving to the odd show n shine or pleasure trip is one thing, but a daily driver is almost cost prohibitive. Everything has a cost and that could affect sales as well. Drive safe and/or Walk On ! ☺♥†♪♫ 10-12-24
@@DentsideDepot Now compare that to my 1971 Fiat 850 Sport Spider that I have owned for 37 years. Not only do people hang out the window of a passing vehicle yelling " I love your car", but when you can get about 200 miles on four gallons of gas, it is affordable. And the paint job is 37 years old with many touchups.☺
I bought in close to the peak unfortunately I needed a work truck no regrets with my purchase bummer to see better quality trucks at lower Prices now tho great video idea keep the content rolling
I have a 79 70k mile 2wd F250 flatbed 351M 4 speed that I can't manage to sell for $4k right now on FB. Nice patina, perfect brakes, new clutch, drives great. I can afford to park it rather than let it go cheaper. It would have already sold it this was 2022. The market really is coming down.
I had a "76 F250 I bought brand new in that baby blue color. I paid $5500 new with 4wd manual 5 speed with the creeper gear 351 cu.in. engine. I wish I would have kept it but sold it when it got too rusted.
@@Mindokwin My father bought a red ‘77 F250 4x4 Crewcab 351 4 speed in the fall of ‘76. I remember driving home from the dealer with him in it the day it was new. Funny how I never saw one of these baby blue trucks in the 70’s that I can recall.
@@squangan I don't think it was a popular color. Not manly I guess lol. I saw one other in my town and talked to the owner who was a woman got it as part of her divorce settlement,
every video similar to this makes me appreciate my 69 f250 more. i got the poor girl for a steal and i plan on taking care of her until i pass, hopefully another 60 years minimum.
spot on vid , i have been eyeing a 4 door just like the blue cover picture one. but it has a 300 six. 7 out of 10 exterior and 6 out of 10 interior. been struggling to come up with an offer price.
When the market is at prices higher than working people can pay cash for it’s probably peaked. I’d imagine loans aren’t the easiest thing to get for trucks at or nearing 50 years old and I’d think most working folk wouldn’t take a note on something that probably is going to require more work and money too. I used to find reasonably priced nos dent side parts on eBay but in the last decade they’ve gone out of site. You’d need to be living with your parents and have a six figure job to play with these trucks nowadays. There’s still affordable junkers out there, but most young folks today couldn’t afford to really do a nice restoration. So much aftermarket parts aren’t very good quality, OEM is hard to find and pricey, and these are getting sparse in junk yards, with not much left that’s decent to use.
Been seeing the market soften on good trucks. Really great builds seem to be pulling top dollar, BUT it better be a pretty special truck! BaT has had a ton of no sales in the last few months as I watch dent-sides as well as square body chevys.
Curious if the price drop from 2021 to 2024 is not as pronounced for 73-75 trucks vs. 76-79. Many California buyers (like me) won’t buy a 76-79 due to smog requirements. For example, I would have bid that white explorer that dropped from 14K to 7K on BAT, if it had been a 75.
That certainly could play a part in it. I cant imagine having to deal with all that nonsense. here in PA its 109$ for a permanent registration and plate and you never need to pay anything ever again or get it inspected. I would go bankrupt if I lived in CA.
I can neither confirm nor deny if I have Montana plates on 2 of my OBS’s:) $50 for forever tags is hard to pass up. But, I don’t want to have too many CA trucks with MT plates at my house so my 79 Ranger Supercab Shortbed 302 4spd (now roller 5.0 & TKO 5spd) has been on non opp for two years. Do I occasionally put my 75 Supercab plates on it to go for a spin? Not that you can prove! Muddling through my Ford truck addiction here in So Cal. Love your stuff man, Cheers!
Not a ford fan but watched the vid anyway , I'm a lifelong sbc guy , daily driver is a 81 gm 1/2 ton long bed bought when I retired 12 years ago and with today's prices for new trucks I'll keep this one till I turn to dirt , doesn't have heated seats or a tv screen to look at but if something fails I know what it is and how to fix it in about 5 minutes , today's trucks the dealerships dunno how to fix and their brand new breaking down 🤣
I paid $780 for my 70 F250, 360ci, long bed 2WD (all original) in 2014. I’ve put about 6K in it over the last 10 years and I know I could get 8K at least and she not perfect. She has some surface rust and needs a bed floor, no dents and all original paint but she’s a daily driver and a worker. I put 3800 lbs of gravel in her bed and she hulled it with no problem. I’ll never sell this truck.
My older brother managed to score a 79 f150 4x4 absolutely immaculate for $500 in 2003 as his first vehicle he ended up selling it after three months cause his GF at the time(crazy&abusive) told him she can’t be seen in this old p.o.s with him so he sold it and financed a lifted 2wd single cab 2004 gmc sierra 🤦♂️ he’s always been the dumb one
in 2003 these were just used trucks still doing work. I got my first one in 1996 and it was literally just a work truck. These particular trucks did not realize their collector value untl about 5 years ago, but like we saw in the video those prices are coming down due to the market conditions.
@@DentsideDepot yes that’s absolutely true however I’m from a small town and everyone thought it was a great looking truck except her, it was identical to the root beer and orange one in the video except it was all the root beer color
@7:37 it actually is a significant difference when you factor in inflation… $26k in 2024 is $22,344 in 2021, so this individual basically lost 6k in order to own that truck for three years. Inflation has gone bonkers in the last 3.5 years and it’s pretty obvious why.
I’m all out here crying that I can’t find a bull or brick 150 4x4 runner for $2k these days! 🤣 I’m like I ain’t paying $5k when these rugs are going for nearly $100k
It's not that complicated: The generation that grew up with these trucks are past their peak and on the way out. Anyone who wanted one to reclaim their lost youth and could afford it either already has one or has fallen prey to the flippers. Ten or fifteen years from now prices will crash because a huge glut will hit an already soft market as their owners go into nursing homes or kick the bucket. Restore one for the joy of it but an honest restoration of anything that isn't rare or desirable will always cost more than the finished product is worth because the people who want them are a finite group that's steadily growing smaller and these trucks are not particularly rare or valuable.
Anywhere near ocean spray makes it tough to find rust free, and that is most of FL. If you can shoot up to central NC they are plentiful. The green truck in this video I grabbed from NC last year.
I have 78 ford I use as a daily driver. But to many they are a luxury, our current economy is terrible but don't have the disposable income they used to.
i traded my 1983 chevy, for some work. the man never finished. the truck sat there for two years. So, I got the work done, then gave it away again. The guy put a 350 in there, lol, not a good idea, without upgrading the rear end, but ok, and put a new bed on there, since he had a nicer bed. he's asking for 10k, for the truck I gave him. lol.
I like the video but I think the lack of people wanting to build their own motors and paint it themselves is driving the prices of all the classics up. I’m a firm believer if you didn’t build it it’s not yours.
I have one of the nicest 1977 F150 short wide ordered new from factory get real cash offers all the time and turn it down. Love my truck and will pass it down to my Family when I die.
If you’re heavily invested into these old trucks right now 😬I used to buy and sell classics. Never try to restore when prices are stupid high. Turn, turn, turn. Never hold. 80k for an old truck? That’s rich money that don’t think nor care. Sooner or later you will be holding something you can’t get rid of. My motto is just common sense, when prices get too high/stupid/ridiculous, buy only if it’s sold already. Take the money from stupid bandwagon hoppers and move on. Nobody with a brain ever thinks prices like these will stay that high. 😂
@@DentsideDepot I agree with that. The overpriced stuff sits but if youre following stuff closely- trucks that are fairly priced do NOT last long on the market. Usually a matter of a few days here in Michigan before they sell
There's been a correction here in Florida. Only the really nice dent sides and square bodies are commanding big money. The rest of it is junk or parts at best.
Just to be clear, because it is a big misunderstanding....The trucks value has never been that high. The value was in the restoration of the truck that made the first truck mentioned so high. It's like a gold-rush. When people see that you can fix then flip a vehicle that you bought for $3000 or $4000 for nearly $100K, a lot of "Flippers" will start doing the same. The market will become saturated with these trucks, devaluing them. The laws of supply and demand are in play here. And valuing the same truck with a 3 year differential, the truck was driven, miles were added, wear and tear are factors in any vehicle/house/item/commodity. The truck as purchased in 2021 was likely all new, low miles on the parts. The person that purchased it likely "used" the truck. A devaluation of a few thousand dollars for a truck in 3 years is arguably about as good of a devaluation that you can get. Try this: Drive a new car off the lot, add 5000 miles to it, and try to sell it for what you paid for it. You won't. You would be lucky if it isn't devalued by more than 10K. The results of this election cycle will 100% effect the value of everything. Look at what we had to endure over the last 4 years. Groceries that cost as much as gourmet catering did 5 years ago, gas that costs as much as the Bush Era, real estate exploding in cost like it did during the Bush/Obama era. We had a 4 year period where none of that effected us. But, orange man bad! Right?
Considering the cost to restore them, the prices reflect what it takes to get them to that level. If you don't love these trucks, then they make zero sense to purchase, its a luxury item.
You know why Ford highboys are so amazing. It's because they made a crap product. None of them hardly survived. You look at a square body Chevy. They're everywhere and nobody looks twice. Chevy made a quality product
Yes, but because most new trucks are ugly or they are plug in toaster ovens, I think they will remain popular with younger generations. Time will tell.
😂😂😂 dentside ford trucks are shit. The only one I'd have is a super cab. Las one I saw for sale was $3500 from the original owner 80k miles not perfect but a perfect project
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Please let me know your thoughts on the current market conditions for classic trucks and where you think they are heading over the next few years. My hope is up, up, and up!
Kids coming up aren’t gonna get into these like the older boomers, that’s what it takes to continue the market. Just what I see…..
I think that More and more people will start fixing and driving older vehicles because a new vehicle is not worth the high price that they want for it.
@@tanner882you never know bro
@tanner882 good so that way they can lower the prices
I hope the price drop like bad habits so they are not expensive!
My 10yr old is also now an expert on 70s and 80s Trucks. Thanks for the content.
Appreciate you watching!
The ONLY reason any auto prices spiked during 2020/21 was stimulus money. Reality is setting in and values will continue to drop for all but the most perfect trucks. High gas prices also bring prices down. Very few people are buying those trucks to drive more than a couple times a year. Cheap money has destroyed real prices and now people who bought foolishly during the hype are paying the price.
yup have to agree that played a huge role
Thank Sleepy Joe Biden for that.
Oh yes, if it weren't for that $1200 from Biden, I wouldn't have been able to buy that $25,000 truck
I have a 76 f250 460 ranger super cab long box 2wd that I paid 1500 CAD for then drove home just over 9 hours. I installed a cam and all the bolt ons and swapped in a zf5. It's been my daily driver for 4 years now. I've only got about 6 or 7 grand CAD into it now and still tests 147/148 on all cylinders. My kids love it. I'll have that truck until gas engines are banned!
Will be dong a zf5 on my next build, its a great trans.
@@DentsideDepot I pulled mine out of an 88 f450 logging truck with 380k on it. Didn't rebuild it just threw it in my truck and now it's got around 450+ lol
These prices were a surprise. The last 79 xlt ranger i bought 2009 was $1500 no rust 4x4 rebuild c6 and 351m to 400 4in lift and 33 12.50r15 on it.
The most i ever payed was 4k on a 80 in 1991
2009 was a lifetime ago. Also remember 2009 was the single worse period in history for used car values.
@@DentsideDepot no it wasn't. I not that dammed old. I was retired in 09. And my youngest was a teen.
I am not that old dammit. Lol
@@tbjtbj4786 haha, well I meant from a classic truck value stand point lol.
@@DentsideDepot i know. And to be fair I in a rule part of fl. So that probably effects price somewhat.
There's still a lot of the classic trucks used as daily drivers still.
I am actually looking around for a good one to use a a daily myself.
I really don't like new trucks. The 07 f150 5.4 was the last new one I had.
And they bought it back under the lemon law.
The first year I had it the dealership shop had it 185 days. It left me stranded more than anything else I ever owned.
And I have not had new since then.
And will never consider a ford that newer than the square front. Really prefer the early bullnose and older.
You could still get the 351m/ 400 up to 82 .
People are tapped out and don't have enough cash for a house, who besides rich people are buying $80k trucks that are 50yrs old? The bank sure isn't giving the average person a loan for that amount, If they are the interest rates will be crazy.
It is a luxury item for sure, but that has always been the case. The average person cannot afford to buy a premium classic 4x4 truck.
I'm glad. These trucks aren't stocks, they are old vehicles. Should be bought, worked on and driven
Got a rusty 76 F-250 3 years ago. A cabin rust repair is 4x the truck value. Thank you for the video.
I love the fact that you have so much love for Dentside Fords, because they are the greatest trucks ever made, and they also own my heart. My question to you is why don't you take the time to make one totally sweet?
I am doing that right now with the Cummins swap X36. I do not have any employees here and all the work is done by me, so one truck takes about 10 months to get done. Also, I have zero appreciation for perfect paint, I prefer patina trucks.
That is the question I had, but his answer makes sense.
All those prices are out of the world insane. I don't know if I've ever seen a restoration that wasn't full of bugs
They really aren't that insane because the cost to build them is significant. A premium paint job can easily be 40k or more in today's world.
@@DentsideDepot If someone pays 40k for a paint job they are getting taken. I can't even think how you could even have 2k in materials in painting a pickup. The last triaxle dump I did here was somewhere like 1000 in materials and I paid the painter 500 for spraying it.
@@joecummings1260 Thats a low quality dump truck paint job. No offense, but clearly you are not well informed on what high quality show grade paint costs in materials and how many hours in labor it takes to prep out a truck and then wet sand. Of course you can paint a truck cheap, but then its just a cheap truck.
@@DentsideDepot$2k materials correct, if you buy yourself a bounce house and have a good gun (and some practice) you can save serious money on paint. I wouldn't want a show quality job on a dd anyway
Man I'm really glad I got my 79 F250 with a factory 460 for free. I've commented on one of your videos before I'm 14 and restoring my first truck to be my daily in a couple years. Really enjoy the videos. I was wondering if you could do a video on the different badges on these trucks. Mine's got 2 holes next to the 250 badge and it looks like it could have been one but not sure. There's nothing on the internet for this.
Hey appreciate you watching. Yes we can do badges at some point, that was on my futures list actually.
that means your truck is an XLT
Or a 250 camper special or a trailer special or a lariat. Look up the distance of the holes and if even or of set the trailer special is offset . The other two are different length and there was some bigger dealers that had there name in cast metal and actually drilled holes in new trucks and cars . Side note when these trucks were sold new if you were a truck buyer you had to go to the dealership used car dealer and then go to the back of the used car lot to look at the new trucks and then very very few were sold just to ride in the sales department always ask what kind of business or work you planned to do with the truck regardless of what size truck you bought
If your budget allows, you can order a Marti report which list your trucks options.
@@jeremyrushton8310how do you get this Marti report.
A stationwagen is now also "vintage". And you can haul things dry, warm and things are less easy to steal. Truck market has become too crazy, pricing wise. It starts to kill itself.
yea, but its a station wagon lol....
@@DentsideDepotan El Camino with a top! Extended cab, Four Doors! Wonder if you could sucker someone in...but I'd be OK with a 427 in a 69 Chevy wagon
Yesterday an 80's K5 Chevy Blazer restomod sold for almost 400k at Barrett Jackson. Blew my mind
Great video I agree 100 percent the market is on the way down most people are holding on to their money unless it’s a fair deal I was at a car show today the prices I noticed were down but people thinking Covid pricing they were worth it but not cash money worth it and I had cash money lol
Think about what you paid for yours, what is was worth two years ago and then subtract 5k from it and you have today's value. I think that is where it is at. But dont sell it Chris!!!!
The $18k truck was in Canada and needed transmission and engine rebuilds.
Canadian here. I just sold my 1979 SC 4x4 460cu truck for $20,000. Un-restored but was in super nice condition. Guy bought it in less than 24h. I was very happy.
Great video! Would be great to hear about the one option I don't think you have talked about. The high output heater. Thanks!
Yup, that was def a good option to have for sure!
Classic car market has always been volitile, old cars are optional for most people. I live in Kaliunicornia so smog laws complicate the market even more. Have a rusty '67 bumpside as a project & it is fun but not neccessary. If prices drop it gives me hope I might get an early 70's 4X4 someday, without having to build it myself.
They say CA is the classic car capital of the world, but as you stated its one of the worse places to be. All the nonsense going on out there is what is killing this country. Move to Texas!
This gives me hope to find another of my own...had 3 in my 51 years of breathing...had a "snow commander"? it lived in our family for 30 years.
I agree 100%. Sold my fully restored 1976 Bronco in 2022 and very happy with the price because I wouldn’t see those numbers now.
Building/restoring is an expensive proposition. Those nice builds in the middle of the video are closer to $100,000 than $50,000 to "complete" (you're never really done). If you can buy them now for those 50-65k prices it's a good deal.
I would hate to have to sell mine but it's good to see they are still worth something:)
All great points
I'm shocked by the prices people are paying for restoration services now. Given how simple these trucks are, and how plentiful parts supply for them is , paying over 30-40k for one that is "mint" or a 10 footer to me seems silly. That said i was looking for a good rust free single cab 4x4 about 7 years ago. They were resonable at the time in the 8-10 k, not sure what they spiked out at. But now they are around 20k in my part of the country, which I find absurd.
@rexradar9297 I hear ya!! I'm north of the boarder. A truck that is in restorable condition goes for about 20k (15k us) give or take. A frickin parts truck is 5k these days. 400 to 500 horse crate engine between 20 and 30k by the time you have it installed (depends how silly you want to get replacing bits and pieces. Old pieces look like crap beside new stuff no matter how much elbow grease you put in) trans and transfer case are another variable but still costly just to have reconditioned, paint + body varies wildly but expect at least 10k, interior is relatively inexpensive but still going to cost a few bucks, all the misc..brakes, bearings bushings, nuts, bolts, exhaust, tools the list goes on and on can add up to thousands. If your doing the work yourself as a hobby project expect it to take two years. Pay a shop and your looking at 100$ an hour (give or take) up here. 100k can creep up on ya real fast :)
$50-65k a good deal? Most households don’t have that in the bank at retirement. I guess for wealthy folks it’s not much money, but I’d think that’s the exception not the norm.
@@1971_Chevelle_SS totally agree
Oh man that 79' F350 xtra cab is a beauty! I do love my 79' F250 w/ swapped 429 and C6 combo. I've had it for about 15yrs now. Bought it for $3500, then. No interest in selling it. From what I am seeing vehicle markets across the board are in decline right now. I think it is mostly larger external market factors and is just part of the overall market cycle. We shall see where things go from here in the near future.
I am building a 1973 F250 4x4 highboy and I am putting a newly built 390 fe engine in it and going through it and putting in a brand new 78-79 power steering box I bought the frame kit for making it work I had to go get it and haul it back home 275 miles I love the original colors it has the lite blue paint on the bottom and the dark bahama blue on the top of the hood and body except for the top of the cab I am going to repaint it but I have to cut out rust spots over the beds fenders and I’ve bought panels for them and it’s has to have part of t passenger floor pan replace for rust but I have already purchased it also but the rest of the truck is pretty solid
My dreams of owning a 97 F350 CCLB 4x4 PSD were all but crushed when the market went crazy in 2019.5 till a year ago. I hope values go down on those trucks. Here’s to hoping
Looking for a good driver to have as a shop truck, so hoping prices come down.
I think you can right now find a good 2wd truck on facebook for 3-5 gran
@@DentsideDepot That would be ideal. May have to travel though. Somewhat of a old truck desert around me.
Cool information. Hey what township permits having a lawn full of unregistered vehicles? And im guessing there's no community association.
tHanks for all the research. Great video....gives us something to think about.
Looking at a '78 Supercab XLT. Rust free west Texas truck but doesn't run. Molding's missing and small dents over most of the body... asking $4500.00. Good price?
Yes I think thats fair value for a resto project
great video. I dig the old Fords. Can you comment on the general value of the 2nd gen Broncos (78/79)?
Back in the late 70's I remember someone buying a new Ford pick up. When I asked about the fuel consumption he said that he got 5 mpg. Now that is the Cdn gallon which is bigger than the US one. With the present price of fuel, that would turn into a large $ amount /mth. With the cash crunch affecting virtually everything, driving to the odd show n shine or pleasure trip is one thing, but a daily driver is almost cost prohibitive. Everything has a cost and that could affect sales as well. Drive safe and/or Walk On ! ☺♥†♪♫ 10-12-24
8 mpgs is about all these trucks got unless it was a 300I6. 302 could be 12 mpg.
@@DentsideDepot Now compare that to my 1971 Fiat 850 Sport Spider that I have owned for 37 years. Not only do people hang out the window of a passing vehicle yelling " I love your car", but when you can get about 200 miles on four gallons of gas, it is affordable. And the paint job is 37 years old with many touchups.☺
I bought in close to the peak unfortunately I needed a work truck no regrets with my purchase bummer to see better quality trucks at lower Prices now tho great video idea keep the content rolling
well if you needed a truck then it is what it is.
I have a 79 70k mile 2wd F250 flatbed 351M 4 speed that I can't manage to sell for $4k right now on FB. Nice patina, perfect brakes, new clutch, drives great. I can afford to park it rather than let it go cheaper. It would have already sold it this was 2022. The market really is coming down.
Good morning Dentside Depot!
Hey there!
Off topic question, but was that light Baby Blue a stock Ford Color in the 70’s? I never saw it until about 1985 or ‘86 on a Ford truck.
I had a "76 F250 I bought brand new in that baby blue color. I paid $5500 new with 4wd manual 5 speed with the creeper gear 351 cu.in. engine. I wish I would have kept it but sold it when it got too rusted.
@@Mindokwin My father bought a red ‘77 F250 4x4 Crewcab 351 4 speed in the fall of ‘76. I remember driving home from the dealer with him in it the day it was new. Funny how I never saw one of these baby blue trucks in the 70’s that I can recall.
Yes, the blue truck in my video is the original paint.
@@squangan I don't think it was a popular color. Not manly I guess lol. I saw one other in my town and talked to the owner who was a woman got it as part of her divorce settlement,
every video similar to this makes me appreciate my 69 f250 more. i got the poor girl for a steal and i plan on taking care of her until i pass, hopefully another 60 years minimum.
spot on vid , i have been eyeing a 4 door just like the blue cover picture one. but it has a 300 six. 7 out of 10 exterior and 6 out of 10 interior. been struggling to come up with an offer price.
Interesting take on the market. Subbed!
G'day mate, iv got a 76 f250 4x4 highboy just finished a full restoration on it what would it be worth. Cheers Dan Australia
When the market is at prices higher than working people can pay cash for it’s probably peaked. I’d imagine loans aren’t the easiest thing to get for trucks at or nearing 50 years old and I’d think most working folk wouldn’t take a note on something that probably is going to require more work and money too. I used to find reasonably priced nos dent side parts on eBay but in the last decade they’ve gone out of site. You’d need to be living with your parents and have a six figure job to play with these trucks nowadays. There’s still affordable junkers out there, but most young folks today couldn’t afford to really do a nice restoration. So much aftermarket parts aren’t very good quality, OEM is hard to find and pricey, and these are getting sparse in junk yards, with not much left that’s decent to use.
Been seeing the market soften on good trucks. Really great builds seem to be pulling top dollar, BUT it better be a pretty special truck!
BaT has had a ton of no sales in the last few months as I watch dent-sides as well as square body chevys.
Curious if the price drop from 2021 to 2024 is not as pronounced for 73-75 trucks vs. 76-79. Many California buyers (like me) won’t buy a 76-79 due to smog requirements. For example, I would have bid that white explorer that dropped from 14K to 7K on BAT, if it had been a 75.
That certainly could play a part in it. I cant imagine having to deal with all that nonsense. here in PA its 109$ for a permanent registration and plate and you never need to pay anything ever again or get it inspected. I would go bankrupt if I lived in CA.
I can neither confirm nor deny if I have Montana plates on 2 of my OBS’s:) $50 for forever tags is hard to pass up. But, I don’t want to have too many CA trucks with MT plates at my house so my 79 Ranger Supercab Shortbed 302 4spd (now roller 5.0 & TKO 5spd) has been on non opp for two years. Do I occasionally put my 75 Supercab plates on it to go for a spin? Not that you can prove! Muddling through my Ford truck addiction here in So Cal. Love your stuff man, Cheers!
@@h20cycle1 just change your address to imperial california you only have to get smogged every 10 yrs
@swiftxrapid919 Good tip, I will look into that.
I really liked this video thank you for sharing this information.
youre welcome!
I love that mint single can 4x4.
I think the Mopar trucks are going to be getting more popular myself
I think everything classic truck will be good long term because nobody is going to restore the plug in toaster ovens being built today.
I bought a 77 f250 4x4 5 years ago drove it 200 miles home .. 1500$ since restored
Seems like I got a good deal on my ‘76 f150 supercab. No rust, everything mechanically sound, just a few light wiring issues. $11,500 in Sept. 2023
Yes that is a very fair number.
Not a ford fan but watched the vid anyway , I'm a lifelong sbc guy , daily driver is a 81 gm 1/2 ton long bed bought when I retired 12 years ago and with today's prices for new trucks I'll keep this one till I turn to dirt , doesn't have heated seats or a tv screen to look at but if something fails I know what it is and how to fix it in about 5 minutes , today's trucks the dealerships dunno how to fix and their brand new breaking down 🤣
I paid $780 for my 70 F250, 360ci, long bed 2WD (all original) in 2014. I’ve put about 6K in it over the last 10 years and I know I could get 8K at least and she not perfect. She has some surface rust and needs a bed floor, no dents and all original paint but she’s a daily driver and a worker. I put 3800 lbs of gravel in her bed and she hulled it with no problem. I’ll never sell this truck.
I just bought a 1980 F150 stepside 4x4 with the 302 auto
Factory air.
Super clean 84k miles
$5500
Sounds like shes ready for another 40 years of hard work. Will still be on the road long after the current disaster EV F150s are scrapped.
My older brother managed to score a 79 f150 4x4 absolutely immaculate for $500 in 2003 as his first vehicle he ended up selling it after three months cause his GF at the time(crazy&abusive) told him she can’t be seen in this old p.o.s with him so he sold it and financed a lifted 2wd single cab 2004 gmc sierra 🤦♂️ he’s always been the dumb one
in 2003 these were just used trucks still doing work. I got my first one in 1996 and it was literally just a work truck. These particular trucks did not realize their collector value untl about 5 years ago, but like we saw in the video those prices are coming down due to the market conditions.
@@DentsideDepot yes that’s absolutely true however I’m from a small town and everyone thought it was a great looking truck except her, it was identical to the root beer and orange one in the video except it was all the root beer color
Love your videos...
@7:37 it actually is a significant difference when you factor in inflation… $26k in 2024 is $22,344 in 2021, so this individual basically lost 6k in order to own that truck for three years. Inflation has gone bonkers in the last 3.5 years and it’s pretty obvious why.
thats a good point that I should have mentioned. You are 100% correct.
I’m all out here crying that I can’t find a bull or brick 150 4x4 runner for $2k these days! 🤣 I’m like I ain’t paying $5k when these rugs are going for nearly $100k
It's not that complicated: The generation that grew up with these trucks are past their peak and on the way out. Anyone who wanted one to reclaim their lost youth and could afford it either already has one or has fallen prey to the flippers. Ten or fifteen years from now prices will crash because a huge glut will hit an already soft market as their owners go into nursing homes or kick the bucket. Restore one for the joy of it but an honest restoration of anything that isn't rare or desirable will always cost more than the finished product is worth because the people who want them are a finite group that's steadily growing smaller and these trucks are not particularly rare or valuable.
I have a rust free Chevy square body 1-ton crew cab 4X4 I would rather keep before I sell it at a give away price.
Woo an expert, let’s go !
Rust free does not exist in Florida. I wonder what a 1990 F250 Diesel like mine would go for? I wouldn't mind finding a "rust free" 80's truck.
Anywhere near ocean spray makes it tough to find rust free, and that is most of FL. If you can shoot up to central NC they are plentiful. The green truck in this video I grabbed from NC last year.
@@DentsideDepot Yes I think this whole state is rust bucket city! I have not seen a rust free 1970's truck since the 1980's!
@@chargermopar that sounds about right.
Love that 79
I agree!
I don't hope they go up,up,up... more like it holds a value rather than become unattainable.
Seeing these prices I think people are freakin nuts.
I have 78 ford I use as a daily driver. But to many they are a luxury, our current economy is terrible but don't have the disposable income they used to.
I have a 79 F150 custom 4x4…rescued 2000. Bucks
Nice, thats a good deal especially if its rust free.
Classic trucks are getting more affordable and he is getting upset about it 😂
i traded my 1983 chevy, for some work. the man never finished. the truck sat there for two years. So, I got the work done, then gave it away again. The guy put a 350 in there, lol, not a good idea, without upgrading the rear end, but ok, and put a new bed on there, since he had a nicer bed. he's asking for 10k, for the truck I gave him. lol.
I used to see very few restored classics where I’m at, now they’re everywhere. I think maybe the market is getting saturated.
70s Chevy trucks were better though - how come you're not into those?
I had a 1975 highboy with a 4 speed transmission I wish I would have kept it
I like the video but I think the lack of people wanting to build their own motors and paint it themselves is driving the prices of all the classics up. I’m a firm believer if you didn’t build it it’s not yours.
Heck, if you can afford to just put gas in a 460 4WD then you can probably afford $60-80k to buy one.
I have one of the nicest 1977 F150 short wide ordered new from factory get real cash offers all the time and turn it down. Love my truck and will pass it down to my Family when I die.
If you’re heavily invested into these old trucks right now 😬I used to buy and sell classics. Never try to restore when prices are stupid high. Turn, turn, turn. Never hold. 80k for an old truck? That’s rich money that don’t think nor care. Sooner or later you will be holding something you can’t get rid of. My motto is just common sense, when prices get too high/stupid/ridiculous, buy only if it’s sold already. Take the money from stupid bandwagon hoppers and move on. Nobody with a brain ever thinks prices like these will stay that high. 😂
Everything I've seen on Facebook Marketplace older vehicles are way overpriced
the trucks priced fairly tend to sell pretty quick compared to ones overpriced. Really depends on the truck too.
@@DentsideDepot I agree with that. The overpriced stuff sits but if youre following stuff closely- trucks that are fairly priced do NOT last long on the market. Usually a matter of a few days here in Michigan before they sell
@@DentsideDepot prices have definately trended downward a bit though- at least where i am and on the platforms I follow
There's been a correction here in Florida. Only the really nice dent sides and square bodies are commanding big money. The rest of it is junk or parts at best.
Just to be clear, because it is a big misunderstanding....The trucks value has never been that high. The value was in the restoration of the truck that made the first truck mentioned so high. It's like a gold-rush. When people see that you can fix then flip a vehicle that you bought for $3000 or $4000 for nearly $100K, a lot of "Flippers" will start doing the same. The market will become saturated with these trucks, devaluing them. The laws of supply and demand are in play here.
And valuing the same truck with a 3 year differential, the truck was driven, miles were added, wear and tear are factors in any vehicle/house/item/commodity. The truck as purchased in 2021 was likely all new, low miles on the parts. The person that purchased it likely "used" the truck. A devaluation of a few thousand dollars for a truck in 3 years is arguably about as good of a devaluation that you can get. Try this: Drive a new car off the lot, add 5000 miles to it, and try to sell it for what you paid for it. You won't. You would be lucky if it isn't devalued by more than 10K.
The results of this election cycle will 100% effect the value of everything. Look at what we had to endure over the last 4 years. Groceries that cost as much as gourmet catering did 5 years ago, gas that costs as much as the Bush Era, real estate exploding in cost like it did during the Bush/Obama era. We had a 4 year period where none of that effected us. But, orange man bad! Right?
In a word, Yes.
Orange man is a traitor, a Convicted Felon and a frkn RAPIST.
So. Yes. Orange man bad.
Well.....Ford's suck......the same era Chevy & GMC trucks are holding their own.
Hopefully they become worthless soon so I can afford them. lol. Maybe when gas hits $15/gallon then I can have some nice lawn ornaments.
Honestly, it needs to come down. It's wayyyy over inflated for garbage most of the time.
The prices for these old trucks is out of hand. Probably because stupid people keep buying them...
Considering the cost to restore them, the prices reflect what it takes to get them to that level. If you don't love these trucks, then they make zero sense to purchase, its a luxury item.
With that said your hobby is getting more expensiver😢😢😢😢😢
Here is mine
The value is what someone is willing to give for it,there is a fool born everyday.
You know why Ford highboys are so amazing. It's because they made a crap product. None of them hardly survived. You look at a square body Chevy. They're everywhere and nobody looks twice. Chevy made a quality product
The fed gov made it rain with debt backed stimulus money that is now all gone plus the public is fickle what they like changes all the time.
I don’t think you have enough 79 fords 😂
and every other market.
New trucks have to many problems.
Overpriced poorly restored junk. I buy them in mint cond. from org. owners for @ $500.
Way over priced....
Ya.. an 80s Chevy or Ford isnt worth 80k....... dont give anshit what your reason is
These are boomer trucks I think 🤔
Yes, but because most new trucks are ugly or they are plug in toaster ovens, I think they will remain popular with younger generations. Time will tell.
TRUMP 2024 🇺🇸
😂😂😂 dentside ford trucks are shit. The only one I'd have is a super cab. Las one I saw for sale was $3500 from the original owner 80k miles not perfect but a perfect project
Bideonomics is killing us...
Square bodies keep climbing in price. So don’t know what your talking about. Sounds like a ford thing.