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Horton, Jones, and Sproul: Questions & Answers #2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- Michael Horton, Peter Jones, and R.C. Sproul answer questions about the church.
Questions:
00:00 Can you explain the etymological origin of the term sixburgh
01:47 I come from an Arminian background and have now to understand and embrace the doctrine of grace. This has caused hostility from my spouse. How do I handle this?
06:52 Psalm 11.5 says God hates sinners. How can we reconcile that to John 3.16?
11:07 I get confused at the mixed messages-one regarding the sovereignty of God and the other about man's responsibility.
18:47 What is the roll of the church to educate its members for the gnostic and paganism problem, especially equipping the younger generation?
24:07 What is the movement against the organic church? Are they against institutionalized church? What is the difference between this and home church?
29:57 If Jesus is 100% human and tempted in every way we were, does that mean he inherited a fallen nature from the fall?
36:03 Christ is called the second Adam and his actions only affect those that believe, yet the first Adam's actions affected all of humanity. Explain the difference.
37:42 Could one of you explain covenant theology in its simplest form?
42:15 Are there some books you can recommend on this subject?
43:43 Is reading my Bible once or twice a week enough?
47:48 Please explain the Manhattan Declaration and why John MacArthur, R.C. Sproul and others have not signed it?
54:18 High school members that are here would like to know what to do if they have a pastor that falls under the definition of a Christless Christian.
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most of the time that I'm listening to RC and John Mac Arthur i connect my computer to a speaker!! i enjoy their preaching so much that i prefer listening to them over watching TV!! They explain the Gospel very well..
since I have found all these QnA...and preaching...from the reformation preachers...That is all I listen to...I don't have cable or satellite to tv.... at my own preference...It is truly food for the soul.....
AMEN
YA ENJOY THEM RATHER THEN T.V. BUT JESUS GETS ALL THE GLORY FOR CHANGING MY DESIRES TO THAT END.
Annie Sabangan AMEN times infiniti! lol
Yes
I feel stupid now. No, actually I am just astonished as usual at the plenary knowledge of these men in so many categories of Biblical truths. Thanks for uploading.
I love how they are not afraid to challenge what they JUST said in front of everyone. It shows a real search for truth, and not just wanting to all agree for the sake of unity. Compromising truth for unity does not make unity ok. Glad I got to see that.
This!
Mandu are you an English grammarian?
I absolutely feast upon this stuff.
GOOD FOOD EH ????
same
Thank God for sound Biblical teaching and answers if not in the local churches, at least on TH-cam. It’s a shame that we have to fill in what is lacking in our church with TH-cam, so this is greatly appreciated.
I have really enjoyed this. I was listening to it in the office on the speakers. Everyone really was drawn in
You work in an unusual office.
Way to be a vessel!
Wisdom at its finest. Thank you so much for your obedience to the voice of God.
good stuff. love these q and a sessions.
My understanding of God’s sovereignty is :
“Whosoever will let him come.”
However:
“No man comes to the Soon except the Father draws him.”
People say God created man to reveal His love to creation. I wonder if He created man to show to all creation that we are helpless without Him in light of the original rebellion in heaven. Maybe the invitation is open to everyone so God is completely ‘fair’ so no one can accuse Him of shutting anyone out BUT on the other hand , only those empowered by Him to respond are able to enter in,though the invitation is open to all.
There are many people still confident in their own ability to be righteous apart from God.
Praprapra RC interrupts and gives a high five. Really explained original sin and Jesus' sinlessness!
O Palmer Robertson's books on the Covenant are extraordinarily great
I'd like to ask a question here, so that I'll have it to refer back to and will remember to ask it later on in the right Q&A forum.. I agree that to sustain a growing conformity to Christ & mortifying the deeds of the flesh, necessitates daily bible study, yet I have had seasons when I've spent too much time studying and not enough in actual Christian service. But that was probably a personal weakness. Q.: Do I need to, and if so, how can I break the habit of beginning my personal time with the Lord in His word and in prayer, only to have it turn into the development of a message for others? All of it used to be, for many years, only for my own relationship with Christ. But as somewhat of a bible teacher, I get so excited about ideas for presenting what I'm reading to others that it suddenly becomes a lesson or sermon prep. to edify my siblings in Christ. Do others experience this too? Now, just about every time I read, I find myself audibly expounding the meaning and giving applications and illustrations. P.S. If any dog is going to heaven it'll probably be mine-she has to listen to my exegesis every day ☺.
Babes in evil but men in understanding” powerful. Brothers and sisters STUDY THE WORD OF YESHUA MESSIAH. MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE US. MY LORD WHAT A WAR WE IN. REMEMBER WE WON. THROUGH OUR LORD PRECIOUS BLOOD. THE ONLY ONE I USE THE WORD PRECIOUS TOWARDS IS OUR LORD AND YOU SAINTS. BLESSED ARE WE. AMEN
Being saved is a different matter to being a person that goes to church
I BELIEVE GOD IS A MERCIFUL GOD AND KNOWS EVEN IF THE WHOLE WORLD TURNS EVIL THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME ONE DESERVING CAUSE GOD LOVES MAN .
John 3:16 and Calvinism make a lot of sense in an Optimistic Post-mil view of eschatology
Makes even more sense in an amillennial context ;)
See Ferguson, Godfrey, Lawson, & Sproul
Lol @ just before the 44th minute 😉
When anyone doesn't accept the true doctrine of grace, it's because they are not walking according to the Rule a new creature to whom grace is given, Galatians 6:15
"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature."
The ability to live to the praise of the glory of God's grace is to them that walk as new creatures, new creations IN CHRIST
The carnal mind is a product of not being renewed nor speaking from the conscience of the New man/a new creature
It's the new creation folk that has received abundance of grace and reign in life through Christ our Lorf
It's the truth of the gospel that sees face to face with God and knows even as he is known by God. If you have another gospel due to it being perverted/not accurate to what the mind of the Lord is, grace won't work
Intellectuals at handling the word of God. Who can bare such
RC always makes me laugh
Hey Ok
Mine is a question- the snake in genesis, is it a physical snake or is it a voice in Eve's heart?
@lucy
The serpent was Satan. Throughout scripture, spiritual beings are described in terms of dragon and snakes, for example, a coin was found with the two seraphim of Isaiah's vision from the same time period as the peophet. The seraphim were depicted as dragons.
I hope that helps :) God bless!
Satan took the form of a real, live, snake.
lucy milanoi physical snake who was influenced by satan
@@julieannemooreedwards9909 can Satan do that?
33:00
Hey
Who is Peter Jones?
@54:00 , yes RC took it too far!!!!
Yes it was a poor analogy to be sure. Especially when abortion is of the devil. He was trying to make an impactful point, but the words were poorly chosen. But he, like us all, was an imperfect man. But now he is where Jesus is, and praise God for His grace towards us imperfect men.
Surely it’s right to say that the innate preference which we have to either be good or evil, stems from us and not from God Himself making us good or evil.
Although perhaps it could be said that God allows or even fosters that seed of good or evil, within a person, to grow, and maybe this could be the reason why there can be seen, at fairly early stages, goodness or evil manifesting in the life of a person.
And whilst the circumstances that a person is born into, could be seen as the reason why a persons tends to be good or evil, however for those who have deliberated over this for some years, they will most probably arrive at the conclusion that there is, within people, an inherent disposition to be distinctly either good or evil.
Would God have chosen Paul the apostle if Paul was evil? It seems reasonable to assume that God chose Paul on the basis of what He knew Paul could become which could not have happened if he was an evil person.
And we assume that whilst Paul’s persecution of the church was evil, nevertheless the assumption is that as Paul must have been intrinsically for God, it was on this basis that God chose him. In other words Paul had the necessary quality to be chosen by God which was a capacity to please God.
Therefore on this basis can we the redeemed, also assume that we too were chosen by God, not arbitrarily but instead because we had an innate preference, perhaps unwittingly, to want to please God.
Re: Peter's comments regarding Daniel and the responsibility of believers - and pastors - to understand the Enemy and his hostile worldview. This is the largest single failing in the Church today - BY FAR! Whenever I try ( and I have tried many times, in many ways with many Christians in leadership roles ) - to engage the issue of the Lie, they shrink away from a serious intellectual engagement on this subject. Hence, the sheep in their flocks remain lambs... to be led to a cultural slaughter. And, it is getting worse every day. Apart from a few ( John MacArthur, and the men on this panel ) and a few others in the Church today, handling and exposing the errors of secular, pagan philosophies is a lost discipline. And the Church is so much weaker as a result.
Not to say those called according to Gods purpose do not love the Lord, but does this verse show a distinction between the elect and those saved by faith through grace.
How can we reconcile the chosen to those that responded to the gospel?
Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
The conversion of the disciples was a chosen elected by God conversion called according to His purpose. I do not question their love for God. I do recognize their election without seeking the gospel.
Those converted by the hearing of the gospel, received the love of God by believing in Jesus through hearing the gospel. The question is were they elected by being chosen or by free will to the answer of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Did they chose Jesus or did Jesus chose them.
It is clear the chosen were chosen by God and Jesus kept them all except Judas who was a betrayer of Jesus.
Do we choose Jesus or does He choose us?
I know He saves those that believe.
Is there those that He does choose?
He does deny those that claim to believe, but do not believe in Him fully for righteousness unto God.
They work deceit( iniquity) false teachers believe lying wonders and signs and works to verify belief. They never repent of this spiritual adultery. Can we not understand that Jesus said blessed are those that believe in me but never seen me.
Yet we see a direct distinction in the election of the first fruits of the Holy Spirit.
Let’s be careful to see the conversion approached differentally to understand elect and those of the promise; but all have the eternal life outcome through Jesus Christ alone by faith alone through Gods grace alone according to His Word alone.
My problem with Calvinism as it regards the "Elect" is Mathew 16:25 or Revelation 22:17. If we are use the whole conceal of God... then let us use the whole conceal. To say that God did "this or that" for some people and not others as a point to bring into the plan of Salvation is extreme. God the Father is sovereign...without question. And did Adam have a choice yes. Does God have a plan A and B and C, No. We must look at all that God did, whether singularize a person or a nation, it was ultimately so that the whole world could be redeemed. In addition making distinctions was for the purpose of the edification of the Church.
Any exegesis of scripture?
William Spencer Don't get me wrong, I like the Conferences with R.C. Sproul (especially when Ravi is there). Discussions of doctrine and not sensationalism or "how I can be a better person in 21 days" and the follow-up "how to loss weight in 21 day the Daniel Diet", is refreshing and NEEDED, but for whosoever is pretty self explanatory. Jesus was talking about his death in the context of 21 thru 23, our life in 24 thru 25, depravity of man in 26, and his second coming in 27:28 (Transfiguration). In that context you have death; aliment/state of ALL men 16:23; requirement for remedy/hope for "whosoever will" 16-24 & 25; 16:26 (asking a question so that he would get the people to think); resurrection/2nd coming (he was the first I Corinthians 15:23) 16:26 thru 27. Show me a commentary that refutes that the man in question is humanity not the elect. Now Revelation 22:17 (I do have a commentary for this)..."Great Invitation" Where is the elect?
Bryan Joseph
This is an old post. I no longer debate issues that have no effect on salvation. You can believe that you saved yourself (the logical conclusion of free will theology) as long as you agree it is grace alone, faith alone in Christ alone you belief that you chose your own salvation does not effect salvation. I have since decided to stay away from debates that do not effect salvation. You are not going to change my mind. I go by scripture alone not man's own personal interpretation. Nowhere is the idea that we choose our own salvation found in scripture. What is found is that believers are always called the elect. The author of our salvation is Christ not our will.
+Bryan Joseph We all deserve death, you say Calvinist says these things, that is not true, this is what scripture reads; you can read Romans 9 or John 17 or many other passages that show God chooses whom He will, Jesus in John 17 say He does not pray for the world,but only for them who the Father has given Him, Calvin did not write the bible, He taught and the knowledge God gave him, God also has given to others too, as we keep things in context we see the order of God's counsel.Also God flooded the planet, this shows God's hatred of sin, there is also the scripture that tells that Jesus killed them whom he brought out of Egypt because of there obedience, People are not good, yet God in His mercy has given us faith unto salvation, all are guilty though.
Matt Bailey if there is no good in man then man is incapable of recognizing good. The fact than mankind even wonders or wants to be reconciled to God shows a spark of goodness. It is the first inkling of repentance. What kind of father wouldn’t want reconciliation with a child who was sorry and repentant over sin? Calvinism makes God out to be a heartless father who chooses one child over another and when one child asks “why?” God apparently says “I said so, now shut up and off to hell with you.” That’s not God.
As far as Jesus did not die for the world because it can only be seen as universalism…
Well He died for the salvation to come to the Jew first, and then the gentile.
Many Jews did not receive Him, He went to a heathen people.
You are saying His elect is a person and not a people, then contradict it by saying it was only for His people.
What if God elected the world to have the gospel of Jesus and whosoever believes will be saved.
The world is:
The Jew and the gentile
Those who believe are predestined according to His promise.
We live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Mercy and grace and forgiveness is given by His promise in Jesus and who He is according to His will for us.
He said to believe in Jesus.
He is still sovereign according to His will and grace, and we benefit according to agreeing and receiving His Word as truth.
God works through hope to have assurance of hope in Him, which is faith.
The gospel gives us hope.
We can chose to receive this and still need Gods providence and power that He has ordained to this gospel of Jesus and in Him.
So it is the power of God and not the wisdom of men.
God can be sovereign and we can have the choice to trust God.
In the end we live according to every Word that proceeds from His mouth.
Regardless if we choose or not.
God is still sovereign.
I've listened with keen interest to the questions /responses and I'd like to know...Have either of the 'Professors' on the Panel been Baptized by the HOLY SPIRIT ??! ..It seems to me that they have fantastic articulation but lack SUBSTANCE... You have men on your program similar to those Paul challenged on Mars Hill...that's why they're struggling with WHO CHRIST ..Really is and the fact that we are Whole/Perfect/Clean/Pure/Holy..Right Now By His Impartation and New Nature So....The Holy Spirit gives this Revelation not the. Seminaries these men teach in and perpetuate.. They must have This EXPERIENCE...GOD puts in proper perspective just what HE Means not some intellectual drivel/dribble...GOD BLESS Gentlemen.. My Brothers in CHRIST
Five point Calvinism is underwhelming.
So what do you propose the sixth point of Calvinism should be?
@@ericzmitrovich9011 My view is the five points, derived from the Synod of Dort, are not textually supportable.
@@christopherskipp1525 Ah, I see. I used to think like this too. I'd recommend watching about the five points on Apologia Studios. They do a good job of explaining Calvinism through the scriptures.
@@ericzmitrovich9011 "Adding" another "point" to the Synod of Dort's previous doctrinal assertions is, I submit, a non-starter.
@@ericzmitrovich9011 By the way, for most of the so called five points, in my view, textual support exists.
In their wisdom these guys became fools
your evidence of this?
William Spencer no evidence.... boom drops the mic
I love listening to RC, Macarthur and may others that come on this show but when they put on their Calvinistic glass's I start to hear confusion from time to time and I know God is not a God of confusion but man has tendency of doing that NOT GOD!
I think the interviewees are not holy the way God Is Holy, they are human comprehending as Humans Trying to placate non believers.
These apologists are good men but do not have the passion, dedication and intrinsic goodness of Ravi Zacharias, Norman Geisler and J.P. Moreland.
Cliff Simske Huh? I guess it depends on what your definitions of passion, dedication and intrinsic goodness are. This is a dangerous judgement of the motives of Christian brothers. These men are all passionate, dedicated and good, as God sees their souls in Christ.
Perhaps not your fault, but your observation on the "intrinsic goodness of Ravi Zacharias" has aged like fine yoghurt. Rather than rub it in your face, I'd like to draw your attention to the folly of making such a comment about knowing the hearts of men. I pray that none of my heroes are exposed, postmortem, to have lived like villains, but it is to be expected with any man. True goodness is shocking and rare, hence Luke 18:19, "No one is good except God alone."