Van Buren: The Lost Fallout 3
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Back in 2003, Interplay would finally pull the plug on Fallout 3. Code named Van Buren at the time. This version of Fallout 3 was pretty fleshed out, and by 2007, over 700 documents and a tech demo had been released related to Van Buren. The Lost Fallout 3.
Van Buren: The Lost Fallout 3
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Hey man, your Joshua Graham video is gone. Sucks bc I really enjoyed that video
@@GmGTrials Thanks for letting me know. I had an accident with unlisting a bunch of videos. It will be back up ASAP!
@@TKsMantis thanks man! As soon as it goes back up I'll add it back to my favorites list😁. Thanks for the quality content
Gotta say van buren story sounds pretty damn cool, the ammount of different speech options around telling poeple if you have the flu would be crazy im sure
YES. It is a shame.
You can feel very subtle ideas actually used in new vegas as well. Chasing after the guy with nukes and ultimately getting to decide on which faction you wish to drop them on is in Lonesome Road, just not in a space station (outer worlds anyone)
-Insert Corona-chan joke here-
@@KingRumar not subtly actually, alot from Van Buren made it into new vegas. I believe the legion and remnants are both originaly from van buren
[Speech 30] *Cough violently on them*
I do find it funny how Interplay planned on making an Online Fallout and Bethesda did it almost a decade and a half later
That's why Interplay got rekt about the MMO they were making because even back then, an online Fallout was in their mind. I feel like they waited to see how it could become financially viable.
I bet Interplay would've made a better online experience than Bethesda did.
@@jordanboyd5587 Nobody liked the multiplayer mode in Fallout Tactics either, most of the player base wants an RPG not a battle royale.
@@jordanboyd5587 That's not a very high bar let's be honest.
@@TactaGhoul who says fallout online was meant to be a battle royale? it most likely was just a mmo rpg
Wasn't the new plague in fallout 4 for macready's companion quest
Yes, his son seemed to have it. Same with the swamp folk in Point Lookout.
And explains why there is Chinese Stealth Armor in New Vegas.
I hope fallout 1 and 2 can be on consoles
@@zudahkai94 what for?
@@zudahkai94 lmao yea just play it on pc idk howd it work on console anyway litterly any computer can run 1 and 2
I would love to have played this
NICE NAME AND PROFILE PIC DUDE! Damn! Yeah me too.
Wheres Max and Natalia when you need them
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@@dearleader8163 It is the dear leader Jim Pickens
Sal Volcano Yes. B O R E R A G N A R O K
Ironically, the game would have started with an Elder Scrolls trope.
Hey you, you’re finally awake. Walked right into that NCR ambush
@@laserdiscisawesome1263 Same as us, and that courier over there
@@riperiver Damn you Legionaries! California was fine until you came along, NCR was nice and lazy.
I used to be a lone wanderer like you before I took a radscorpion sting to the knee.
That's with Bethesda reusing intros? Since they had their hands on fallout you always start as a vault dweller.
fallout fans: were you killed
interplay: sadly yes
Obsidian Entertainment: but i lived
dbl post, nice
@@TKsMantis why in the sam hell did youtube repeat my comment im gonna fix it
and then died again.
@@megamike15 just cant get a break can they
megamike15
But they are still making games.
Van Burens story sounds sick
LITERALLY.... because of the Blue Flu.
TKs-Mantis dang it i was gonna say literally but you beat me
ItsJustCris lot of nv story comes from it
Brotherhood of Steel 2 would have been awesome. I've read through the ideas for BOS2 so many times I've lost count.
so sick if it ever got completed you'll get corona
fallout van buren from my eyes was meant to be a superior to the last fallouts and it had so much so much thats its a shame it got cancelled the last second but i know theres someone making the game in unity3d engine and its alive !
Yeah I have covered the project in a video before. Adam Lacko. I hope he makes the dream come alive!
@@TKsMantis Just finished fallout 1 for the second time and half-way through fallout 2. Is tactics worth playing or can I safely skip it?
@@JollyOldCanuck I say play it, it's pretty good might take a little bit of time getting use to the different gameplay, but definatly a good play!
Yeah though the issue is that we don’t know what the final product would have looked like. I mean fallout 4 was supposed to have some sort of underwater combat or level. They got cut. Parts of this story and their plans might have been forced to be cut back. Comparing what they wanted to do to with what is possible is somewhat unfair.
Is the person developing it an official developer? Like someone from a company with official rights to the game?
Me: Mantis how many more videos are you gonna do on Van Buren?
Mantis: *200,000 videos are ready, with a million more well on the way.*
Yes.
I’ve seen hundreds of Fallout videos, but I just can’t F@$&ing help myself. Hearing someone talk about Van Buren is worth the time, even if I already know the information.
Well Thank you for watching!
TFW the new plague is Corona
Yeah I got big vibes while reading through that stuff.
Yup, traveling adventurers only able to travel around AFTER they get the virus regardless if knowingly is a creepy parallel
Bob Page: Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator.
Walton Simons: I take it he was agreeable?
Page: He didn't really have a choice.
Simons: Has he been infected?
Page: Ah yes, most certainly. When I mentioned we could put him on the priority list for the Ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic.
Simons: This plague - the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it.
Page: Why contain it? Let it spill over into the schools and churches. Let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.
Anthony DeCrescio i doubt that.. fallout is supposed to be an alternate universe
@kyle rudosz That hit different
Good job being active in the comments. Me and my friends are making a table top Fallout game on Discord.
Thanks for the comment. That's awesome, I use to play a Fallout PnP on Teamspeak.
It’s set in Denver, and we’re making our own lore as well as borrowing a little bit from Van Buren.
Oreo Jones That sounds pog I hope you had fun
We did indeed
Idk what you mean by table top FO game, but good luck
This sounds like the plot of 2021
Yes!
4th day, still alive.
6:55 Not long until we have FEV and a Great War with China. With each passing year Fallout becomes more of a reality lol
Seems like it.
We still need our power armors though...
Especially with MAGA essentially being this nostalgia for the 1950's lol
Fallout : Origins.
A real life rpg.
I saw an article where some eccentric millionaires were planning on building vaults in reaction to covid. CRAZY
It would be cool to see Bethesda create a Fallout in the Four States Commonwealth. As unlikely as it may be.
Id be highly skeptical of ANYTHING Bethesda makes at this point.
Nothing is impossible.
TKs-Mantis yeah but we all know Bethesda just LOVES their east coast
@@TKsMantis As long as it just works.
@@michaelflorian1013 it goes both ways with Interplay/Black Isle and their west coast
Love these retrospective type videos!
Good to hear!
Talentless writer
Wow Caesar’s Legion was proposed as a Faction this long ago, that’s awesome!
When this was proposed, it was only 7 years from then that Fallout new Vegas came out. Now, it's almost 14 years since new Vegas came out
Do you think Van Buren will come back in way or something with the "falling" of Bethesda?
New Vegas was the closest thing.
Ive herd and seen so many people and small groups who tried to attempt to make fallout Van Buren and each time they started it just like all the others spent very little time on it and when they realize "oh shit this is harder than i thought" and bail on it completely and leave the pieces for the next person to pick up and do the same thing.
Which im surprised that stuff like fallout 3 is getting remade along with fallout 2 but van buren, its like a curse for some reason like it refuses to be made, so far at least to my knowledge at least 11 people tried and failed to get the project going.
Now all we can do is wait till this curse finally breaks or continues on its next victim.
Holy Covid-19
*coughs in infected*
TKs-Mantis the blue flu!
China virus.
EU in disarray
If china invades Alaska then we know what comes next...fallout timeline was a prophecy!
*Wuhan* Flu.
Never forget who did this to us.
Corona-chan only wanted to give everyone a nice long vacation... for some a never ending vacation...
I like fallout 3 but I would like to see what van buren could have been but ideally i love to see both games
" I used to be a raider like you until I took a knife to the knee cap"
4:03
I would love to play a finished version of this game that we can all play. I need more fallout in my life
More Fallout is good Fallout
Looked hideous
It looks at least 30% done.
agreed
Just recently started binging your videos & I gotta say your content is excellent bro, very informative and entertaining, keep up the good work👌
What Interplay needs to do to make a rumbling, market-shaking return is create a fully realized true to from successor to everyone’s favorite classic game, Earthworm Jim.
Omg I didnt know anyone else even knew this game existed. My older brother loved that cartoon and had it.
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good looking out giving Retcon Raider a shout out.. his design doc series is excellent.. thanks for this video Mantis
The best coverage on TH-cam imo
When i saw the maps from previous fallouts i wish bethesda made larger fallout maps 😭
Yesss I wanted to screenshot that honestly its visually satisfying
Granted, that wasn't all "rendered" map. You just had set locations and would "fast travel" between them with random encounters in-between.
03:12
Yoooooooo, my man, Fallout Tactics IS severely underrated in the series! I agree with you 100%!
God the amount of hours I spent on that game just in the Multiplayer function with GameSpyArcade... the memories... and I REALLY loved the campaign. And this is coming from someone who loved Fallout 1 and 2 literally to death in the hundreds of hours I've spent on both those games over the years.
I was also really surprised to learn that they had planned a Fallout Tactics 2! I couldn't even imagine how that would have turned out
Yay! Content!
Yes! More on the way!
Interplay: gives Bethesda fallout
Interplay: *dies*
Bethesda years later: oops *makes fallout 76*
f*ck fallout 76
6:56 OH NO
Mighty familiar
Yeah, my eyes got wider and wider as I was reading about the New Plague. o.O
@@TKsMantis the canon is out of balance. This is supposed to be the year mr.house is born but instead it's the year of the blue flu
Just A Deer You’re pretty close, Robert House was born in 2025
@@justadeer2660 June 25, 2020
great video man, I really wish Van Buren would be made into a game I like how it wraps together the whole story and includes the precursors to New Vegas
This is a really good video honestly. I’ve never been very interested in Van Buren but this changed that.
The story sounds good IMO. This should be Fallout 5.
I wouldnt want Bethesda to touch it and ruin it with their atrocious game design
@@skefsongames i doesnt have to be bethesda it would just be the fallout 4 engine
Would love to see a mod team like Fallout 4: New Vegas take up this and craft the game from the design documents, I’d definitely play it hahah
Ohhh, damn, that would be great. The progress vids on F4NV have me hyped, and their partners working on F4: Capital Wasteland also show that same passion and technical know-how. Their rendition of _Van Buren_ could well be the next project.
Fingers crossed.
I just really like your content it's always so good
Another spectacular video
Thanks a lot!
Supposedly Chris Avellone is working on an overhaul mod for fallout 2 that’s basically Van Buren
That would be cool. Where did you get that news from?
0:53 me leaving the crime scene after commuting 3 counts of aggravated assault
Van Buren sounds kinda cool! I would love to see it fully completed, and I'm sure many other fallout fans would too
A lot of people would love to play this.
@@TKsMantis If VB ends up being finished by someone, and if NV is more or less interplays Fallout 4, it'd make kind of a cool "Choose your own timeline" for the fallout games
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the plot sounds so scary specially this times
Thank you my friend and I agree about the plot.
Great video!
Thank you
Always love learning more about Van Buren.
Theres a fan made Project on this game in an improved fallout 2 engine i worked in for some time. The Project was huge and its done 60% orr so at the time.
Love the video mantis, I did quite a bit of research on the subject myself. I would’ve much preferred this to the Fallout 3 we got
I like Fallout 3 as we have it now, but I would have loved to play through this.
Van Buuren story sounds absolutely amazing. I wish Bethesda never bought rights to the Fallout franchise and Interplay continued working on it or at least same devs under a new company.
Dang,
Now I want to play it....
With all this stuff going on with COVID-19, do you think this will have a major effect on the release of Wastelanders?
It for sure could. Everything seems to be taking a break and staying home. It seems like the common thought is until around the second week of April. So it could have an effect. I just hope everyone, including the people at Bethesda. Are safe and healthy.
I hope now that most people have to stay at home fan projects like F4:NV progress faster
What is the title of the background music in the beginning? I know that it's "Maybe" by the ink spots, but I'm trying to find who did a cover of it
Now I’m waiting and wondering if our new plague will start giving people blue boils
It always feels like in New Vegas and 4 to a certain extent, that this game is always referenced, I'm hoping they'll make this into a game one day
I wonder what the original fallout 4 would of been like
when I first discovered about this game I really got obsessed with it, it's so interesting.
Two van buren projects have my attention, one is a unity 3D version, still in development and going strong, the other is using the fallout 2 engine.
I'm running a tabletop RPG based on Van Buren's story. It's so great going through the world that was going to be. Also agreed that Retcon Raider's series is fantastic. This video was awesome too though :D
What system are you using?
@@jamesmeow3039 I was using GURPS. It's quite complicated though so players might prefer something else. If I were to run it again I'd probably use a modified version of D20 Modern.
It makes me angry that the gunners weren’t talon company in fallout 4, like I understand it wouldn’t be lore friendly but I bet they could have figured it out
Always puts my mind at ease to see your vids in these troubling times of china virus and investment chaos
We will get through this together brother.
Holy shit that sounds like a fucking awesome story line for van buren, with the twist being you spread it to everyone you talked to.
Damn really wanna see thaat game now
Is there no way to reverse engineer van buren's engine? You would need that if you were to piece it together or use a new engine and recreate the assets.
"Not only are we sick with the blue flu, but we have also spread it around to every location we have visited."
What an appropriate storyline in March 2020.
Torn
Van Buren
Baldur's Gate III (Not Larian's)
So many promising games killed before their time. Lionheart is the closest thing we have to what Van Buren probably would've ran like even though that game was also rushed to be released before it could fully realized... but at least it got a release.
It is always sad to not see the stories we are excited for.
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Would you consider doing a livestream playing Fonline 2 Or Fonline 3?
I love that Maybe piano rendition! Is there any place to listen to it? It's very relaxing.
God, what I would do to have seen Van Buren fully realized
dope video broski
Thanks Tommy!
The prototype of this game works so good I crashed as soon as I almost completed the final quest,too bad that it's so short,too good that you can use commands
Which mod are you using for the New Vegas clip?. The weapon bobbing looks different than vainilla.
Holy shit, I have to admit, I've only played the tech demo and looked at some of the leaked stuff + your Joshua Graham Van Buren video. But after watching this video I think Van Buren would've been my favorite fallout game story wise 😍
Obsidian Entertainment - "So we take a cup of new gameplay elements, about five tablespoons of creativity, two pinches of old Van Buren ideas, stir that all together in the Creation Engine mixer, then cook it for about 18 months and BOOM, you got New Vegas.
FIRST RELEASE DETONATING EVERYWHERE
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Fallout Yesterday - A free remake of Van Buren in Fallout 2 engine.
Van buren is def wayy darker and more in line with what I would expect from a fallout game, not Ohh my daddy is gone, or oh no my wife is dead and my son is gone.
How are 3 and 4 not dark?
I just don't like those types of quests but at least in 3 it made sense to me. But I might replay 3 as I'm just replaying 2 at the moment. I'm just not that much of a fan of 4 with the main quest, some of the side quests I don't mind at all and are enjoyable.
I would like to see Van Buren in its full fruition
Idk what happened since, but there is a remake of Van Buren being made by the community. I think you mentioned this but idk.
Nevertheless, you should try and interview J.E Sawyer/Chris Avellone someday. That'd be the most amazing thing. I'd love to her their thoughts and visions of Van Buren, and New Vegas; that never got out.
I have reached out to both, but they are busy and probably get a lot of messages. So I have received no reply. I would love to though.
@@TKsMantis Chris is prolly really busy judging that he's freelancing with a few projects, one being Dying Light 2, Not sure on what Sawyer is up to these days. Nevertheless, I seriously do hope one day they'll be open to it. They are total legends.
I wonder what New Vegas would be like if Van Buren was released AND they had time to fully develop it. It's a masterpiece as it is and I can only dream as to what it could've been
I don't know if I'd say the tech demo 'leaked'. It was available as a download on the Black Isle website back in the day.
I would have loved to see Van Buren but I still love FO3
“Fallout: EXTREME!” 😆
Van buren predicted the coronavirus as crazy as it sounds
Big feels
I absolutely love the fallout series especially the first 2 and new Vegas, but hearing this makes me feel a wide array of emotions from, awed to flat out depressed, and hearing what you said about how fallout new Vegas is sort of what interplay/Black Isle fallout 4 was going to be, it made me so depressed knowing that we will never see the interplay fallout series come full circle like it was planned. Sadly even if someone were to piece together van buren and make a full game, something just wouldn’t feel right. I honestly really want to have born into some universe where this actually happened and see just how amazing it could have been.
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Damn that story sounds a million times better than trying to find your dad/son or whatever
Also better than finding the guy who shot you.
It’s a shame you don’t get many views compared to other fallout channels, you make really good quality content for your subscriber count.
People will watch if they want to. I just feel lucky I am able to make these videos and have the audience I do. Thank you for watching!
Great video! Where can I read the documents about Van Buren?
Everything that was released has been added to the wiki at this point for easy reading.
fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Van_Buren
Man, when compared to the Fallout 3 we got. Van Buren sounds 10x better!!
Have always wanted to see a Fallout remake mod in the Divinity: OS2 engine. Maybe it would be a good place for a salty old dev to try and whip up a Van Buren mod. If they could get around IP concerns I would freaking love that.
8:00 ish, did you just say Boulder Dome? Are the Boulder Dome mods for FNV pieces of Van Buren remade for FNV? If so I need to download those mods ASAP
I am glad some of Van Buren went into New Vegas
Close... but not exactly
The plague idea is genius. I love fallout 3 and this tbh. They don’t negate each other really. I hope these ideas get used for a New Vegas 2
What happened with the Van Buren project Adam Lacko was working on?
Can someone link me the version of Maybe he uses in the background?
th-cam.com/video/TWNirP0LAoM/w-d-xo.html
sounds fire
Love your content mate
Also Interplay good Bethesda bad
if u can view the scripting, cant u use Turing to play it?
That plot is pretty nice.
There was guy named Hexer, who tried to recreate Van Burren in the classic Fallout engine but gave up. Then returned with Fallout Yesterday, which is... the same thing? Hope he manage to make it.
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