For awhile I was on a kick to get a nice rail square for my Makita track saw. I went with the Black Fonsom guide from Ali Express. It was dead square. I also tried a very cool rail square adapter from a shop called Tool theory. Again dead square. These rail squares are a pretty good deal in my opinion. Great video. Thanks.
Good Vid Frank, I found it really informative. I looked at these a while ago and wondered if they didn't spend all the machining time making all the hex cut outs and fancy holes and just produced a piece of plate with the alignment blocks and the clamp they could sell it for half the price. Same with Bench Dog stuff they make it look pretty with anodising and engraving etc and sell it as 'Premium'. most of us just want accuracy and functionality for our workshops. there is no need to pretty things up. My dad was a Blacksmith, have you ever seen anything that looked 'Pretty in a Blacksmith's tool kit. I have adapted my 12 inch framing square to fit on my rail with just 2 x M8 bolts and it works fine. Might be interesting to try a comparison vid between the two. Love your channel and the humorous out takes. Thanks for all you do.
😁 Thanks Tom. I 100% agree with the "blacksmith" workshop. But love to watch a blacksmith at work, so much skill 😃. I guess once the CNC design is done for these squares then there is no extra cost to make it look fancy. I am really pleased with it so far for the price and accuracy. Thanks for watching 😁 👍
I bought one of these from Banggood last year, and I must say it works like a dream from my perspective. Quick and accurate cuts. Thanks for the review
😁 Thanks Paul, its perfect for my workshop and I just can't justify buying a premium brand one (even though I would love one). So I'm looking forward to using it on future projects 😊. Thanks for watching Paul 😁👍
@@ReclaimDesign hi Michael. Its made by a company called ToolCool. They sell through Amazon. It should be easy enough to find 😃. Sorry no link at the moment 😁👍
Hi Frank, I think if it is square, that’s it, well worth the cost. I have the Benchdog version, does exactly the same thing. Maybe the Makita clamps fit. Screw not trigger though. Thanks for sharing, very good review.👍😮
😁 Thanks Sandman, as I show in the video I can't extend the holes because the guides are in the way. Probably better to "adjust" the clamps i think. Thanks for watching 😁 👍.
Looks good for the price and square straight out the box you don't always get that with premium tools, i was given a flat tape measure and i have to say it makes marking much more accurate .👍
😃 I was expecting to do some adjustment, but didn't need to straight out of the box. I like the idea of a flat measure, it would make my measuring so much more accurate, I'm normally quite useless with a tape 😆. Thanks for watching mate 😁👍
😁 I don't have a Makita rail to try, but the advert for it on Amazon states that is compatible with Makita. So I would be confident it fits 😁. Thanks Garviel 😁👍
I bought a different but also a cheap track saw square that works perfectly! Don’t understand the value proposition of TSO and other squares that sell for 4-5 times as much.🤷♂️
My guess is that if we in America could pay a 12 year old five cents an hour to make these the savings would be there. If China couldn’t copy every good idea someone has they would still be living in caves and chucking rocks at each other. They are equivalent to the stupid kid in school who copied off everyone else’s work to get by.
Looks really good. I have the dewalt track/saw...no one really makes a square for it (some 3d printed stuff on etsy aside). I think it would be super handy to have a machined square for it. Thanks for the video Frank.
😁 Thanks Nathan. It works really well. I don't know if it would fit a Dewalt track. Its almost worth getting one and trying to modify it to fit 🤔. Thanks for watching Nathan 😁👍.
@@Benchdogtools 😃 Perfect, thanks for the info Benchdogs 😃👍. And thanks for watching 😁👍. Nathan, check out the Benchdogs site. It looks like a nice bit of kit. Looks like a much more premium square, it may be what your after 😁👍
😁 Quite a bargain. I think you can get them slightly cheaper elsewhere. But I'm happy with the price I paid. It is very nicely made. Thanks for watching Ben 😁 👍
I have and use the TSO system... very well made and accurate, but expensive. I also picked up one of these cheaper Chinese squares (I got the 260mm version for ~$30 USD) and find it rather good. The thickness surprised me... I was expecting it to be half of what it is nd plenty beefy to stand up to use. It lives on my small Makita 39" rail for quick short cuts, saving me from having to purchase another TSO square (>$175 USD) or swap my good square on/off all the time. It seems plenty accurate enough for short cut use.
😁 I am still very pleased with it. For the price it works really well. Now I've been using it for a while I realise how much time it can save. A lot less marking out or messing around with squares. I love it 😁. Thanks for watching 😁👍
😁 Thanks Ged. I think I will modify my older cheap clamps (I've only just got the Axminster ones 😆). I think that would work a treat. Thanks for watching Ged 😁 👍.
Alright mate? That's a proper little belter of a square for the track.. U can get some decent ones from Banggood and they have the little metal clip thingy to stop it from flipping. Maybe u already know about that site anyways biut I just thought I'd mention it. Brilliant video though my friend. Just found ur channel and I sub'd after this video bcos u went through this comprehensively. I have a question if u have the time to let me know please bro.. Is that TITAN Plunge saw any way worth buying and how long have u used it for? I know it's not as good as a Festool, Makita or the other top brands but u obviously still use it for straight cuts and the likes.. I just bought the KREG ACCU CUT GUIDE RAIL today for 100 pounds terling here in Ireland from Amazon and it's a nice piece of kit but I'm in the market for a half decent track saw. Plunge saw with rails and I would love to hear what u really think of that TITAN Plunge saw?? I would very much appreciate ur opinion if u have the time or maybe u have a video on it? Enjoyed this video man.. Keep up the great work..
😃 Hi Slim. Firstly thanks very much for the sub, much appreciated 😁👍. I've been looking at Banggood for a while now but still haven't got anything from them yet, but from what I have seen there is some good stuff on there at good prices. I'm sure ill use them at some point soon 😁. As far as the Titan tracksaw is concerned, I've had it a few years now and still love it 😃. For the price I paid for it it is great value for money. The only down side is that it is a little heavy, but sometimes that's a good thing 😁. It fits well in a genuine Festool rail. And it always gives a good clean cut. Easy to change the blade. I'm sure there are much much better ones but you will pay much much more for them. I would buy it again any day 😁. Hope that helps Slim. Thanks again for watching 🥊😁👍
@@frankslittleworkshop Hey Frankthanks for the reply. I'm enjoying the content my bro. U review tools really well too I have to say. I was looking at upgrading my table saw but the cost atm is something I'm not ready to pay. A good track saw is something I was considering from Kreg or Makita but when I saw u used the Titan brand which I have the planer thicknesses and have got good results from I just wanted to ask how u found the track saw so thanks for the info Frank mate. Keep up the great content. BTW the Triton router and the Ferrex Nail gun were 2 other videos I watched and enjoyed too bro.. Take care man.
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Very helpful video covering many of the 'normal', but very real, issues that most of us DIY'ers would encounter. Thanks for taking the time.
😁 Thanks 😁. I'm glad the video was of some help 😁. Thanks for watching 😁 👍
Thanks for the thorough review. The various applications and tests are greatly appreciated
😁 Your welcome Bill. Hope it was of some use and thanks for watching 😁 👍
For awhile I was on a kick to get a nice rail square for my Makita track saw. I went with the Black Fonsom guide from Ali Express. It was dead square. I also tried a very cool rail square adapter from a shop called Tool theory. Again dead square. These rail squares are a pretty good deal in my opinion. Great video. Thanks.
@@gregghernandez2714 😁 100% agree Gregg. These things are such a time saver. I love it. Thanks for watching 😁 👍
Good Vid Frank, I found it really informative. I looked at these a while ago and wondered if they didn't spend all the machining time making all the hex cut outs and fancy holes and just produced a piece of plate with the alignment blocks and the clamp they could sell it for half the price. Same with Bench Dog stuff they make it look pretty with anodising and engraving etc and sell it as 'Premium'. most of us just want accuracy and functionality for our workshops. there is no need to pretty things up. My dad was a Blacksmith, have you ever seen anything that looked 'Pretty in a Blacksmith's tool kit. I have adapted my 12 inch framing square to fit on my rail with just 2 x M8 bolts and it works fine. Might be interesting to try a comparison vid between the two. Love your channel and the humorous out takes. Thanks for all you do.
Interesting concept
😁 Thanks Tom. I 100% agree with the "blacksmith" workshop. But love to watch a blacksmith at work, so much skill 😃. I guess once the CNC design is done for these squares then there is no extra cost to make it look fancy. I am really pleased with it so far for the price and accuracy. Thanks for watching 😁 👍
I bought one of these from Banggood last year, and I must say it works like a dream from my perspective. Quick and accurate cuts. Thanks for the review
😁 Thanks Paul, its perfect for my workshop and I just can't justify buying a premium brand one (even though I would love one). So I'm looking forward to using it on future projects 😊. Thanks for watching Paul 😁👍
I've had my eye on a rail square for a while now. Good explanation and walkthrough Frank!
😁 Thanks Michael. At the moment its my favorite tool. It works really well 😁. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@frankslittleworkshop That's good to hear Frank, and you're welcome! Do you have a link to the product by any chance?
@@ReclaimDesign hi Michael. Its made by a company called ToolCool. They sell through Amazon. It should be easy enough to find 😃. Sorry no link at the moment 😁👍
Nice one Frank - thanks.👍
Thanks great video !
Thanks I just saw that same square 20.00 and was wondering if it was any good and you answered the thank you
😃 Excellent, I love it when that happens 😆. A few months on now and its still working well. Its worth the investment. Thanks for watching Bart 😁👍
Hi Frank, I think if it is square, that’s it, well worth the cost. I have the Benchdog version, does exactly the same thing.
Maybe the Makita clamps fit. Screw not trigger though. Thanks for sharing, very good review.👍😮
😁 Thanks Allan. I'm glad its as accurate as it is. That means is good enough for my little workshop 😁. Thanks for watching Allan 😁👍
Good review frank it does the job thinking about it as its made of ally? you could just file back the holes so the clamp fits
😁 Thanks Sandman, as I show in the video I can't extend the holes because the guides are in the way. Probably better to "adjust" the clamps i think. Thanks for watching 😁 👍.
Looks good for the price and square straight out the box you don't always get that with premium tools, i was given a flat tape measure and i have to say it makes marking much more accurate .👍
😃 I was expecting to do some adjustment, but didn't need to straight out of the box. I like the idea of a flat measure, it would make my measuring so much more accurate, I'm normally quite useless with a tape 😆. Thanks for watching mate 😁👍
For tippy cuts just slide the rail square up towards the centre of the rail. That balances the track.
Will it fit a Makita rail?
😁 I don't have a Makita rail to try, but the advert for it on Amazon states that is compatible with Makita. So I would be confident it fits 😁. Thanks Garviel 😁👍
I bought a different but also a cheap track saw square that works perfectly! Don’t understand the value proposition of TSO and other squares that sell for 4-5 times as much.🤷♂️
😁 100% agree Steve. It may be different if you use one to make a living. But for me, this is perfect 👍. Thanks for watching 😁 👍
My guess is that if we in America could pay a 12 year old five cents an hour to make these the savings would be there. If China couldn’t copy every good idea someone has they would still be living in caves and chucking rocks at each other. They are equivalent to the stupid kid in school who copied off everyone else’s work to get by.
That looks like good value Frank.
😁 I must admit, it is well made and works a treat 😁. Thanks for watching James 😁👍
Looks really good. I have the dewalt track/saw...no one really makes a square for it (some 3d printed stuff on etsy aside). I think it would be super handy to have a machined square for it. Thanks for the video Frank.
😁 Thanks Nathan. It works really well. I don't know if it would fit a Dewalt track. Its almost worth getting one and trying to modify it to fit 🤔. Thanks for watching Nathan 😁👍.
Benchdogs makes one for the Dewalt
@@Benchdogtools 😃 Perfect, thanks for the info Benchdogs 😃👍. And thanks for watching 😁👍.
Nathan, check out the Benchdogs site. It looks like a nice bit of kit. Looks like a much more premium square, it may be what your after 😁👍
@@Benchdogtools Ordered. I have searched multiple times for this, never found one. Really glad you guys make one!
@@frankslittleworkshop I did end up grabbing it. I have been looking for one for so long, the painful shipping charges to the US stung a bit less!
Nicely made, does the job, bargain!
😁 Quite a bargain. I think you can get them slightly cheaper elsewhere. But I'm happy with the price I paid. It is very nicely made. Thanks for watching Ben 😁 👍
I have and use the TSO system... very well made and accurate, but expensive. I also picked up one of these cheaper Chinese squares (I got the 260mm version for ~$30 USD) and find it rather good. The thickness surprised me... I was expecting it to be half of what it is nd plenty beefy to stand up to use. It lives on my small Makita 39" rail for quick short cuts, saving me from having to purchase another TSO square (>$175 USD) or swap my good square on/off all the time. It seems plenty accurate enough for short cut use.
😁 I am still very pleased with it. For the price it works really well. Now I've been using it for a while I realise how much time it can save. A lot less marking out or messing around with squares. I love it 😁. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@ 14:05 you checked square from the side opposite where you set your track square, not best practice.
🤔 Are you sure ? I'm sure I checked square from my reference edge to my cut line, my reference edge was where my square was mounted ???
If you want to clamp on the square side a small grind on the clamp bar should suffice. (I think) 🤔 👍🏻
😁 Thanks Ged. I think I will modify my older cheap clamps (I've only just got the Axminster ones 😆). I think that would work a treat. Thanks for watching Ged 😁 👍.
Nooice!
Alright mate? That's a proper little belter of a square for the track.. U can get some decent ones from Banggood and they have the little metal clip thingy to stop it from flipping. Maybe u already know about that site anyways biut I just thought I'd mention it. Brilliant video though my friend.
Just found ur channel and I sub'd after this video bcos u went through this comprehensively.
I have a question if u have the time to let me know please bro..
Is that TITAN Plunge saw any way worth buying and how long have u used it for? I know it's not as good as a Festool, Makita or the other top brands but u obviously still use it for straight cuts and the likes..
I just bought the KREG ACCU CUT GUIDE RAIL today for 100 pounds terling here in Ireland from Amazon and it's a nice piece of kit but I'm in the market for a half decent track saw. Plunge saw with rails and I would love to hear what u really think of that TITAN Plunge saw?? I would very much appreciate ur opinion if u have the time or maybe u have a video on it?
Enjoyed this video man.. Keep up the great work..
😃 Hi Slim. Firstly thanks very much for the sub, much appreciated 😁👍. I've been looking at Banggood for a while now but still haven't got anything from them yet, but from what I have seen there is some good stuff on there at good prices. I'm sure ill use them at some point soon 😁. As far as the Titan tracksaw is concerned, I've had it a few years now and still love it 😃. For the price I paid for it it is great value for money. The only down side is that it is a little heavy, but sometimes that's a good thing 😁. It fits well in a genuine Festool rail. And it always gives a good clean cut. Easy to change the blade. I'm sure there are much much better ones but you will pay much much more for them. I would buy it again any day 😁. Hope that helps Slim. Thanks again for watching 🥊😁👍
@@frankslittleworkshop Hey Frankthanks for the reply. I'm enjoying the content my bro. U review tools really well too I have to say. I was looking at upgrading my table saw but the cost atm is something I'm not ready to pay. A good track saw is something I was considering from Kreg or Makita but when I saw u used the Titan brand which I have the planer thicknesses and have got good results from I just wanted to ask how u found the track saw so thanks for the info Frank mate. Keep up the great content.
BTW the Triton router and the Ferrex Nail gun were 2 other videos I watched and enjoyed too bro.. Take care man.
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I bought a chinese knock off and it was even worse with clamps than yours.
Does it compatible w Makita Track?
😁 Hi Jeffrey, I'm sorry but I don't have a Makita track to try it with 😔. So I'm not sure. Thanks for watching 😁👍