I’ve been thinking about the giant triangle just to get the longest reference lines possible. However, everything he showed here either I already can do with tools I have or I’ve never needed to do. I don’t understand using extra guides if you have a precise set of holes in your MFT top.
After watching the video advert i was still skeptical. But when i finally downloaded the plans th-cam.com/users/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG i was very impressed. The whole plan was just as you said in the video. Thank you very much. I now have a large and valuable collection for my woodworks. This is great!
I am so glad that TSO is supporting the Kreg plunge saw. Back when COVID first shut everything down, I needed a track saw for a remodeling project. At the time, the only saw in stock in my area was the Kreg. It works very well and I'm happy with it. But, one of my regrets about the saw is that there is very little third-party accessories available for it. The Kreg accessories work, but they are more fiddlely than they need to be and can be difficult to work with.
Well Done! Thanks for the TTPs. BTW: I’m a retired Army Chaplain and an aspiring but yet pitiful woodworker. I find your videos very helpful and constructive. Thanks!
Saw the ad from TSO today. Thanks for all the detail on using it. It really helped clarify all the uses and the value it adds. Now to work on the budget.
Great video and review Jason. As soon as I started watching I was thinking about how it would be great to use for squaring a miter saw. Glad you mentioned it.
Hey Jason. Just wanted to thank you for your ausome shop lights Video. I purchased lights through Jim at American Greenlights and I couldn't be more pleased. There not on yet but the electrician is arriving today to finish them up..I'm pumped ! Just to let you know I followed your instructions for the minispit install also. You have that way about you and I appreciate that. Thanx again. Arthur
Have rewatched this video at least four times. great overview. I REALLY want one especially as TSO has a sale this weekend (Memorial Day). But I just don't need it. If I did it over again I would use this and the GRS-16PE (I bought a GRS-16 years ago).
You did a great job with their ad -- this was more of a deep dive into the product. I hope they use this on the site because I saw the usefulness when you first presented this. I see even more value this time around... I'm on the verge of buying it.
Sure you are- but by the off chance you’ve been egged on to purchase this with this post - You’ll use it 3 times to make a boxes for your cutoffs then you’ll try to sell on Facebook for $20 off the original price but end taking $60 after 17 months of no interest.
@@AaronGeller he’s just doing an ad. And people get upset because of course he’s going to say it’s great because it’s his sponsor. People disagree with that but it’s his job. I mean do people really think Tom Brady believes Gillette is the best razor? He’s a spokesman.
There are three flavors of kool aid Red Blue and Green. I love all three. Red = Woodpeckers, Green= Festool and Blue=TSO . I have the full size version and when I tell people how much it cost they about choke. For me I was able to make room in my shop by unloading my miter saw which I really didnt use all that much. With the TSO system I am able to dial up angles with out my miter saw. Oh real quick I noticed you are using the bench dog fence they sell a special dog that has a flat edge to it to support the part of the fence that goes under your track I have it and it makes it a lot more robust. Well thank you for posting your videos I love them .
Everyone in the comments is mad that this is basically an ad for TSO. Don’t act like you wouldn’t do this exact same thing if they wanted to sponsor you. It’s not anything that every other successful TH-cam woodworker doesn’t do. All you have to do is not purchase no need to be angry at the guy for getting his sponsorship. You all sound so jealous.
You oversimplify the negative reactions into just one cause. There are probably several points of contention. Personally, I object only to the blatant and insulting click bait title which demeans what is usually high quality content from this contributor. People can't talk about what they will never own, for whatever reason.
Jason, I have had the larger MTR18 set for some time now, which I love. I can see how useful the smaller triangle would be. I’m going to reach out to TSO to see if they will sell me the smaller triangle only, since I already have the set. Thanks for the video!
The TSO MTR-X is a great looking tool. WoodPeckers has a new tool that looks interesting and would work with the TSO MTR-X . The new tool is called ALIGN-A-SAW SYSTEM amd it has a component tool called Align-A-Saw Plate Only and it makes calibrating you table saw easier.
Everybody doing something in a systainer with small parts needs a "small parts container'. Many of my systainer items end up coming out of the systainer because I don't feel like they hold the odds and ends well. I think this was a great bit of coverage on this tool. I had been hesitant on this one even though I'm very happy with my TSO tools because I didn't have a feel for why it wasn't just another triangle. As much as I love good triangles, they're big expenses. Now that I see this, this will actually perform many tasks for me on the MFT. For example, I don't have a good tool for doing mitered cuts on the MFT track and this will help. I don't use a fence at all with the track saw on the MFT using parf dogs as a wall and TSO TDS dog stops for repeatable cuts and a square like this could perform the same task as the dogs in many cases. Honestly, I'd love to have a setup where nothing is permanently attached to the MFT surfaces, but the Dashboard hinge is so reliable I haven't found a way to replace it. For example, I've tried the UJK Dog Rail clips or Adjustable Height Guide Rail dogs, but I find for single cuts they slow down setup compared to using the Dashboard and the Rail clips cut parallel right down saw holes. They're better if you're using a smaller, easier to move piece of guide rail.
love your tip and must-have tool recommendations. I have purchased a number of tools you have recommended over the course of your videos and I agree highly agree with your assessments in most cases. Recently purchased this tool and I love it. Thank you for the various videos. Keep up the good work. I see Festool now has you on their video program as a guest or backup.
Just bought this 2 weeks ago and now returning it. Despite being so expensive, I really wanted to love it for how precise and practical it would be. The triangle itself seems square, same as the alignment of the holes for pins and dogs, but the protractor markings are off. TSO customer support was quick, but wouldn't recognize the issue. Very disappointed.
I have been eyeing this for a good while now. Thank you for demonstrating the track saw capabilities. I’m still hesitant to drop the money on it, though. I’m concerned about the long term durability and accuracy of pressure fittings on aluminum. If they inset the pin holes and angle gauge with steel and put detents to hold the setting, I would definitely buy.
I would think that a person would have upgraded their miter gauge before splurging on this. It is very versatile though too expensive to make use of myself.
US$315 plus shipping. No case. Ok then. The dog holes on MFT are already set up for perfect 90 and 45 - you don't need extra tools to lay out those cuts perfectly 100% of the time.
yo this guy is great lol. I'm sure he builds cool stuff, but he just loves highend tools, and is pumped to let you know how dope they are. I like it, it's great lmao. He's like "hey guys gtfoh you will not believe how cool this new triangle is compared to my other much larger triangle." this channel is great
The miter gauge alignment procedure shown starting at 9:25 in the video is not accurate. Miter gauges should be aligned with the face/fence to the bar, not to the blade. As shown in the video, any misalignment between the blade and miter slots will manifest itself in the accuracy of the angle. Think about using a miter gauge on a router table or bandsaw - you wouldn't think of aligning to the router bit or bandsaw blade, yet you can get accurate cuts if you align the miter face/fence to the miter bar.
One thing I can't seem to understand is whether the TSO parallel guides can attach to the MTR - X when it's set to 90 degrees? I want to spend the extra money to have this for a square and also to cut angles but if I can't attach the parallel guides to cut square edges repeatedly at same lengths for a shelf/cabinet then I may have to go with the GR-16.
I love my Dewalt radial arm saws. I have seen where some people have incorporated a miter slot 90 degrees to the fence and use a precision miter gauge and never take their Dewalt off of 90. I think two dog holes 90 degrees to the fence and one of TSOs triangles to act as a fence would be just as good if not better.
That or something similar should have been included in the Kreg Adaptive Cutting System. Very nice tool and again a very thorough demonstration. Can we say this tool is very very pricey?
I love my larger triangle from them and the rail square, very accurate. I do wish I could just buy the triangle and pins only. I’d rather have 3 or 4 precision tools that do one thing perfectly rather than one that does 3 or 4 pretty good. Big fan of TSO overall, just my 2 cents.
I agree with you that TSO Products have good quality products and I own several of them. The MTR-18 mainly because I kinda took your review as a recommendation. You see I have the MFT & Benchdog fence as well. What I want to know is the following: In your personal experience or otherwise, does the quality of their customer service for canceling orders, exchanging products almost immediately after a placed order (i.e. before shipment), etc. match their products? Thanks and I await your response.
@@bentswoodworking I have and the lady I spoke with was fantastic. She was super personal and easy to speak with. Honestly, all my interactions with them have been amazing. When I missed a sale by a day (our baby needed heart surgery the day before), and they made an exception for me.
@Geller Woodworking Your response didn't seem to address the specific problem I described. The people probably are professional and courteous. I was trying to describe a situation that focused more on their process (returns & exchanges) and that process when dealing with the specific issue I described.
@@bentswoodworking I think I would end up getting both. But if the MTR-X has more functionality… I may start with that. I need to go back and watch your video on the rail square. Thanks for your input.
@0:15 Is that a magic drawer? There is no way that square fit in that drawer. LOL Also, big fan of TSO. I love the TDS-13 Low Profile Dog Stops. So useful in so many situations!
@@bombamanwa ....and Festool, and............. Hard to watch this stuff with an open mind. If fact I don't watch once I see the direction. Stick with project, tips, tricks and the like. 😞
Bunch of haters in the thread. Guy's trying to make a living and showing good products. What I'm interested about is: could it be a good size to integrate into a table saw sled for angled cuts?
Yeah, lot of strong opinions for this video today lol. Funny cause it isn’t even a sponsored video 🤣. I like the idea of it being incorporated into a crosscut sled. 🤔
Just wondering, in regards to all your tools. How much of a dollar $ value do you put on them all? Secondly how many of said tools have you purchased with out of pocket cash? It just seems that your shop is an extension of a tool store 👍👍
Great review. I wish I saw this before I purchased the woodpeckers track saw guide. The Woodpecker's one is ok but doesn't have as many applications and it still more expensive of course
If you were going to purchase one or the other since you have both, would you buy this or the guide rail square, which I was planning to get pondering this one now
Guy, that would depend on the cost of each. This square can do the same thing as the guide rail square with a few more functional uses. Do you have a MFT or track saw? Do you have other woodworking machines that a square fence to table is needed? I replaced my original Festool track brackets on the mft due to slop when squaring for cuts, with a dashboard system for the mft that came with mft table to track square for squaring the table and track. TSO make excellent products, but the cost is out there like Woodpecker products. In the end it is your wallet that the money comes out of. Buy what works for you personally and will work in making you a better wood worker or assists your woodworking.
@jwar2163 Thanks for the input. it is much appreciated. I'm thinking since I was going to buy the guide rail for my tracksaw, this would be a better purchase as I could use it for the tracksaw and other tools and projects to get the most of it.
@@guybowers9094 That sounds like a great idea. If I didn't have the Festool angle guide for the Festool TS55 and Extra Track that I purchased with my TS55 I would buy this square set.
@@Trickmanii my point is that if we buy something but never use it, then it’s expensive. If we buy something and use it all the time then it’s not expensive. It’s the value you get out of it
10:10 I've got one and never got anywhere near 90. I don't even use it, to me it's nearly worthless. And since we're on the subject of worthless do you realize how many times you refer to something as perfect? I don't mean to sound cruel, but since you refer to the TSO guide square as perfect, which I know it isn't, makes me wonder what is your definition of perfect?
Lmao. All these guys are so behind the trends it’s laughable. Clickbait titles went out with buzzfeed guys. Not that they even know what that is. Should catch up to them in about 5 years.
You make something whit all those tools because the new yankee workshop make a beautiful wood work whit out those tools sorry all those tools are not for wood workers they are for money spenders
I mean, the Romans made neat things too without power tools, but if I could go back in time and give them power tools, I would be super wealthy because they would pay a high price for our technology. And woodworking is expensive, that's how it is.
It works for Spencely but it wasn’t like Spencely pioneered it. I had a better idea of what this was about than any of Eric’s videos (which I generally enjoy)
Looks nice, could come in handy, but at that price, I can live without it.
Not me. I am ordering it right now.😊
I’ve been thinking about the giant triangle just to get the longest reference lines possible. However, everything he showed here either I already can do with tools I have or I’ve never needed to do. I don’t understand using extra guides if you have a precise set of holes in your MFT top.
After watching the video advert i was still skeptical. But when i finally downloaded the plans th-cam.com/users/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG i was very impressed. The whole plan was just as you said in the video. Thank you very much. I now have a large and valuable collection for my woodworks. This is great!
I am so glad that TSO is supporting the Kreg plunge saw. Back when COVID first shut everything down, I needed a track saw for a remodeling project. At the time, the only saw in stock in my area was the Kreg. It works very well and I'm happy with it. But, one of my regrets about the saw is that there is very little third-party accessories available for it. The Kreg accessories work, but they are more fiddlely than they need to be and can be difficult to work with.
Nice job explaining the functionality. Videos like this are a great reference for the tool to see if it fit your particular needs. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Well Done! Thanks for the TTPs. BTW: I’m a retired Army Chaplain and an aspiring but yet pitiful woodworker. I find your videos very helpful and constructive. Thanks!
Saw the ad from TSO today. Thanks for all the detail on using it. It really helped clarify all the uses and the value it adds. Now to work on the budget.
Great video and review Jason. As soon as I started watching I was thinking about how it would be great to use for squaring a miter saw. Glad you mentioned it.
Glad to help
Nice demonstration, I can see how this tool can easily become useful in the shop. Thanks for sharing Jason.
Hey Jason.
Just wanted to thank you for your ausome shop lights
Video. I purchased lights through Jim at American Greenlights and I couldn't be more pleased. There not on yet but the electrician is arriving today to finish them up..I'm pumped ! Just to let you know I followed your instructions for the minispit install also.
You have that way about you and I appreciate that.
Thanx again.
Arthur
Glad to hear that you’re finding value in the videos 👍👍👊🏼
TSO just makes really good products.
really enjoyed this video jason! excited for all your future videos too
Have rewatched this video at least four times. great overview. I REALLY want one especially as TSO has a sale this weekend (Memorial Day). But I just don't need it. If I did it over again I would use this and the GRS-16PE (I bought a GRS-16 years ago).
That looks to be a great thing for serious woodworkers or professionals and thanks for showing it.
You did a great job with their ad -- this was more of a deep dive into the product. I hope they use this on the site because I saw the usefulness when you first presented this. I see even more value this time around... I'm on the verge of buying it.
Sure you are- but by the off chance you’ve been egged on to purchase this with this post - You’ll use it 3 times to make a boxes for your cutoffs then you’ll try to sell on Facebook for $20 off the original price but end taking $60 after 17 months of no interest.
Glad you found it helpful!!
@@bobwhelk2117are you okay man?
@@HarrisonFord11 I didn't really understand what he was trying to say...even after reading it several times.
@@AaronGeller he’s just doing an ad. And people get upset because of course he’s going to say it’s great because it’s his sponsor. People disagree with that but it’s his job. I mean do people really think Tom Brady believes Gillette is the best razor? He’s a spokesman.
Literally just bought the full MTR 18 kit. Good timing.
Not the exact same item, but a lot of this will translate I'm sure.
Yes many will. The MTR has even more functionality
There are three flavors of kool aid Red Blue and Green. I love all three. Red = Woodpeckers, Green= Festool and Blue=TSO . I have the full size version and when I tell people how much it cost they about choke. For me I was able to make room in my shop by unloading my miter saw which I really didnt use all that much. With the TSO system I am able to dial up angles with out my miter saw. Oh real quick I noticed you are using the bench dog fence they sell a special dog that has a flat edge to it to support the part of the fence that goes under your track I have it and it makes it a lot more robust. Well thank you for posting your videos I love them .
Everyone in the comments is mad that this is basically an ad for TSO. Don’t act like you wouldn’t do this exact same thing if they wanted to sponsor you. It’s not anything that every other successful TH-cam woodworker doesn’t do. All you have to do is not purchase no need to be angry at the guy for getting his sponsorship. You all sound so jealous.
You oversimplify the negative reactions into just one cause. There are probably several points of contention. Personally, I object only to the blatant and insulting click bait title which demeans what is usually high quality content from this contributor. People can't talk about what they will never own, for whatever reason.
Again,excellent presentation.Probably a very handy tool.
I like it, I'm looking into this problem, thank you for uploading
Jason, I have had the larger MTR18 set for some time now, which I love. I can see how useful the smaller triangle would be. I’m going to reach out to TSO to see if they will sell me the smaller triangle only, since I already have the set. Thanks for the video!
The TSO MTR-X is a great looking tool. WoodPeckers has a new tool that looks interesting and would work with the TSO MTR-X . The new tool is called ALIGN-A-SAW SYSTEM amd it has a component tool called Align-A-Saw Plate Only and it makes calibrating you table saw easier.
Everybody doing something in a systainer with small parts needs a "small parts container'. Many of my systainer items end up coming out of the systainer because I don't feel like they hold the odds and ends well.
I think this was a great bit of coverage on this tool. I had been hesitant on this one even though I'm very happy with my TSO tools because I didn't have a feel for why it wasn't just another triangle. As much as I love good triangles, they're big expenses.
Now that I see this, this will actually perform many tasks for me on the MFT. For example, I don't have a good tool for doing mitered cuts on the MFT track and this will help. I don't use a fence at all with the track saw on the MFT using parf dogs as a wall and TSO TDS dog stops for repeatable cuts and a square like this could perform the same task as the dogs in many cases.
Honestly, I'd love to have a setup where nothing is permanently attached to the MFT surfaces, but the Dashboard hinge is so reliable I haven't found a way to replace it. For example, I've tried the UJK Dog Rail clips or Adjustable Height Guide Rail dogs, but I find for single cuts they slow down setup compared to using the Dashboard and the Rail clips cut parallel right down saw holes. They're better if you're using a smaller, easier to move piece of guide rail.
This dude typed up the script for lord of the rings 4. 🧐
love your tip and must-have tool recommendations. I have purchased a number of tools you have recommended over the course of your videos and I agree highly agree with your assessments in most cases. Recently purchased this tool and I love it. Thank you for the various videos. Keep up the good work. I see Festool now has you on their video program as a guest or backup.
Just bought this 2 weeks ago and now returning it. Despite being so expensive, I really wanted to love it for how precise and practical it would be. The triangle itself seems square, same as the alignment of the holes for pins and dogs, but the protractor markings are off. TSO customer support was quick, but wouldn't recognize the issue. Very disappointed.
Sorry you didn’t have a good experience
TSO just came out with a rail attachment for the large 18" square too..
and 18" square on a rail is kind of bulky
That's a nice piece of kit. A bit odd that it comes with the foam but no systainer.
I have been eyeing this for a good while now. Thank you for demonstrating the track saw capabilities. I’m still hesitant to drop the money on it, though. I’m concerned about the long term durability and accuracy of pressure fittings on aluminum. If they inset the pin holes and angle gauge with steel and put detents to hold the setting, I would definitely buy.
I would think that a person would have upgraded their miter gauge before splurging on this. It is very versatile though too expensive to make use of myself.
With this Mtr-x, you actually can retire the miter saw. So even though the price is expensive, it is still worth to own one.
I’m not convinced this will replace a miter saw but I do think it adds great functionality to the tracksaw
US$315 plus shipping. No case. Ok then. The dog holes on MFT are already set up for perfect 90 and 45 - you don't need extra tools to lay out those cuts perfectly 100% of the time.
yo this guy is great lol. I'm sure he builds cool stuff, but he just loves highend tools, and is pumped to let you know how dope they are. I like it, it's great lmao. He's like "hey guys gtfoh you will not believe how cool this new triangle is compared to my other much larger triangle." this channel is great
The miter gauge alignment procedure shown starting at 9:25 in the video is not accurate. Miter gauges should be aligned with the face/fence to the bar, not to the blade. As shown in the video, any misalignment between the blade and miter slots will manifest itself in the accuracy of the angle. Think about using a miter gauge on a router table or bandsaw - you wouldn't think of aligning to the router bit or bandsaw blade, yet you can get accurate cuts if you align the miter face/fence to the miter bar.
One thing I can't seem to understand is whether the TSO parallel guides can attach to the MTR - X when it's set to 90 degrees? I want to spend the extra money to have this for a square and also to cut angles but if I can't attach the parallel guides to cut square edges repeatedly at same lengths for a shelf/cabinet then I may have to go with the GR-16.
I love my Dewalt radial arm saws. I have seen where some people have incorporated a miter slot 90 degrees to the fence and use a precision miter gauge and never take their Dewalt off of 90. I think two dog holes 90 degrees to the fence and one of TSOs triangles to act as a fence would be just as good if not better.
Do you ever make project videos anymore?
Most content creators don’t get high views on build videos unfortunately.
That or something similar should have been included in the Kreg Adaptive Cutting System. Very nice tool and again a very thorough demonstration. Can we say this tool is very very pricey?
I love my larger triangle from them and the rail square, very accurate. I do wish I could just buy the triangle and pins only. I’d rather have 3 or 4 precision tools that do one thing perfectly rather than one that does 3 or 4 pretty good. Big fan of TSO overall, just my 2 cents.
At the 12:45 minute mark you talk about the MTR-X being reversible. How do you know which side is which?
I would have to look at mine but one side has a marking on it that is for the kreg
Could one get this instead of the GRS-16? Would it work just as well for square cuts (maybe not quite as fast, but just as accurate)?
Was thinking the same
I agree with you that TSO Products have good quality products and I own several of them. The MTR-18 mainly because I kinda took your review as a recommendation. You see I have the MFT & Benchdog fence as well. What I want to know is the following: In your personal experience or otherwise, does the quality of their customer service for canceling orders, exchanging products almost immediately after a placed order (i.e. before shipment), etc. match their products? Thanks and I await your response.
I couldn’t say. I have never had a need to use their customer service
@@bentswoodworking I have and the lady I spoke with was fantastic. She was super personal and easy to speak with. Honestly, all my interactions with them have been amazing. When I missed a sale by a day (our baby needed heart surgery the day before), and they made an exception for me.
@Geller Woodworking Your response didn't seem to address the specific problem I described. The people probably are professional and courteous. I was trying to describe a situation that focused more on their process (returns & exchanges) and that process when dealing with the specific issue I described.
@@Sigmadog1975 I had to return some thing, and they made it easy for me. Thry just told me to send it back in for a refund
A question that I ask myself. I have a saw stop ics. why do i need a table saw if i have (and i do) have TSO products, Festool saws, etc.
It’s a convenience thing. I could get by without one. That being said, I definitely wouldn’t want too
What fence were you using? And can you attach a link?
Guess I can get it since I was gifted a PTR-18 🤷🏾♂️
Hi Jason, have you tried or do you know if the MTR-X can be used with the TPG parallel guide system? Similar to what you can do with the GRS-16.
How well does it work if you want to put a scrap piece under your workpiece if you don’t want to cut into your work table?
So I’m curious. I’m about to pull the trigger on buying the MFT/3 table. Would you suggest buying this tool first… or the guide rail square?
That’s a tough one but the MTR-X has a lot more functionality
@@bentswoodworking I think I would end up getting both. But if the MTR-X has more functionality… I may start with that. I need to go back and watch your video on the rail square. Thanks for your input.
@@AngieWilliamsDesigns you’re very welcome Angie
They are running a president’s day sale right now as well. tsoproducts.com?aff=5
@@bentswoodworking Do you have a coupon code? Or maybe that wouldn’t work with the sale anyways. Just curious
@0:15 Is that a magic drawer? There is no way that square fit in that drawer. LOL Also, big fan of TSO. I love the TDS-13 Low Profile Dog Stops. So useful in so many situations!
hahahahaha this made me laugh so hard!
@@justaguy328 I know, right! 😀
Looks great, but out of my price range for a square. But as woodworkers we pick where spend our $$$. Nice review though.
It's currently on sale too
100% Paid promotion for a dust collector
Eh, its no secret hes sponsored by TSO.
@@bombamanwa ....and Festool, and............. Hard to watch this stuff with an open mind. If fact I don't watch once I see the direction. Stick with project, tips, tricks and the like. 😞
@@Norm7264 it is right there in the video description
Yep, commercial for over priced products!
@@heystarfish100 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bunch of haters in the thread. Guy's trying to make a living and showing good products.
What I'm interested about is: could it be a good size to integrate into a table saw sled for angled cuts?
Yeah, lot of strong opinions for this video today lol. Funny cause it isn’t even a sponsored video 🤣. I like the idea of it being incorporated into a crosscut sled. 🤔
Just wondering, in regards to all your tools. How much of a dollar $ value do you put on them all? Secondly how many of said tools have you purchased with out of pocket cash? It just seems that your shop is an extension of a tool store 👍👍
Great review. I wish I saw this before I purchased the woodpeckers track saw guide. The Woodpecker's one is ok but doesn't have as many applications and it still more expensive of course
Could I get this instead of the guide rail square?
Yes you could
@@bentswoodworking thanks, any idea if it works with Milwaukee track?
I would like to know how much money this guy has into all his gadgets? What did the old timers do?
Does this replace the TSO square?
Some overlap but this does so much more
One gripe with this. They missed an opportunity by not using the tiny sustainer for the small parts.
It would have been nice but they still used a tiny container... just not a tiny systainer which would have upped the price
If you were going to purchase one or the other since you have both, would you buy this or the guide rail square, which I was planning to get pondering this one now
Guy, that would depend on the cost of each. This square can do the same thing as the guide rail square with a few more functional uses. Do you have a MFT or track saw? Do you have other woodworking machines that a square fence to table is needed? I replaced my original Festool track brackets on the mft due to slop when squaring for cuts, with a dashboard system for the mft that came with mft table to track square for squaring the table and track. TSO make excellent products, but the cost is out there like Woodpecker products. In the end it is your wallet that the money comes out of. Buy what works for you personally and will work in making you a better wood worker or assists your woodworking.
@jwar2163 Thanks for the input. it is much appreciated. I'm thinking since I was going to buy the guide rail for my tracksaw, this would be a better purchase as I could use it for the tracksaw and other tools and projects to get the most of it.
@@guybowers9094 That sounds like a great idea. If I didn't have the Festool angle guide for the Festool TS55 and Extra Track that I purchased with my TS55 I would buy this square set.
no stops for common angles = no good.
how about a "carpenter's square"?
Ridiculous price! Where is it manufactured? On Mars?
Seems nice, but too advanced for me personally. Maybe some day.
When did a case become a sustainer?
My guess is the price .
Just use pocket square
Because it is so damn expensive...lol
but is it actually expensive? What's expensive is the thing you bought but never used
@@AaronGeller Just a FYI...I have the larger one. Which they did release the attachment so it can be used the same way . I bought the attachment.
@@Trickmanii my point is that if we buy something but never use it, then it’s expensive. If we buy something and use it all the time then it’s not expensive. It’s the value you get out of it
Yeah. Too expensive.
How so?
10:10 I've got one and never got anywhere near 90. I don't even use it, to me it's nearly worthless.
And since we're on the subject of worthless do you realize how many times you refer to something as perfect? I don't mean to sound cruel, but since you refer to the TSO guide square as perfect, which I know it isn't, makes me wonder what is your definition of perfect?
Oh fun, everybody’s getting in on these dumb titles!
Lmao. All these guys are so behind the trends it’s laughable. Clickbait titles went out with buzzfeed guys. Not that they even know what that is. Should catch up to them in about 5 years.
@@Codeyellow this isn't even clickbait
You make something whit all those tools because the new yankee workshop make a beautiful wood work whit out those tools sorry all those tools are not for wood workers they are for money spenders
I mean, the Romans made neat things too without power tools, but if I could go back in time and give them power tools, I would be super wealthy because they would pay a high price for our technology.
And woodworking is expensive, that's how it is.
Meh 🤷♂️
Nothing but a advertisement. And a waste of your money.
Jason is just demonstrating the many uses... and you can't tell me or anyone else what's a waste of THEIR money.
I don’t understand why you insist on a title like Spencely 😂
It works for Spencely but it wasn’t like Spencely pioneered it. I had a better idea of what this was about than any of Eric’s videos (which I generally enjoy)