Great video, thank you for the information. Completely understand why you do not want to give all your secrets away. A lot of work/research, engineering, possible “failed” cycles, and time put in. Again great video 🔥
Yeah I hope everyone understands that hard work and figuring some things out on their own is more worth it in the end. Otherwise you will never fully understand the process and how to adjust accordingly. Plus you just have more skin in the game.
Hello Matt Nice Video...lots of planning and trials and errors on perfecting on most anything that one wants to develop for one's unique situation !! And the different ways of selling firewood depending on where you live and the availability of wood and types !! Example You and Jeff ( Log Father ) Two TOTAL different ways of selling firewood and both work !!😊 You have a Good Day 😊
Yeah. I love watching his channel. It’s nice to see honest firewood talk and numbers. Someone that’s really good with business like myself and truly understand the bottom dollar and what makes sense. I wish I could do what he does and make it and deliver it green right away. But here in America people do not want to go the extra mile and season it themselves. It’s all about now now now. Which is fine. Although I do have some that stock a year in advance. Which is nice.
It’s always about follow the money. I’m all about the numbers. If the numbers make sense then I do it. If it doesn’t then what’s the point. I feel a lot of people do firewood but truly don’t know there true cost of doing business. I track everything so I know exactly what it cost me to produce and deliver a facecord. Down to the average cent. Just like any big buisness.
Thank you. I needed to address some questions and get the info out. Would hate for someone to try and do what I have done and not fully understand what it takes to run.
Thank you. I feel I needed to get it out there as there was a whole lot of interest in it. Would hate for someone to invest in similar stuff and have no idea what it cost to run besides the upfront cost of materials.
Yes indeed I do. Took a while to get there. But I’m a perfectionist. Try to be as efficient as I can be. So no wasted energy or wood. Streamline the process.
I have learned a few secrets when it comes to running these “kilns” except the kiln I oversee is not for wood. It requires @ 10 mbtus input and moves @ 14,000scfms. It’s @ 100’L x 15’H x 10’W. Its heat is supplied by 4-7Mbtu boilers (gas) which is a medium temp system (280-290*f water, 80-100psi with circulation rates of up to 900 gpms) there’s a lot that goes into engineering and design to allow pumps to handle high pressure water and temps over 300*f along with fans that deal with exhaust streams of 260*f. Exhaust leaving “kiln” is passed thru an air scrubber which uses chemicals and water to clean.
How much of your moisture do you think leaves via the dehumidifier? Vs venting? I ran dehumidification kilns for years, they definitely had appreciable electric consumption. I’m currently just venting my firewood kiln for moisture removal. Waiting to see what the heat recovery time will be this winter, will be the first winter for it. As a side note, I sometimes prewarm my kiln with a 285000 BTU diesel fired torpedo heater…..
I no longer dehumidify the kiln. I just pull moisture with my exhaust vents/fan. Venting for me is just faster and more consistent for the way I have designed the kiln. When you say heat recover what do you mean? When venting are you worried about heat loss within the kiln? What’s your normal heat source?
@@Treestofirewood I’m using an outdoor boiler with a water to air exchanger, similar to your concept. I’m still dialing in my venting. My vent system purges the entire container rapidly and completely, but it draws it an equal amount of outside air. On damp days that has been a problem, leading to constant venting. Still trying to figure out a way to automate that better. I’m wondering what it will be like on super cold days in terms of demand on the heating system.
@CouncilHill-zz3pu yeah the goal is to keep temps up and purge moist air. Once the internal wood reaches whatever your desired temp is it should be quick to regain the air temp in the kiln again. I wouldn’t worry to much on the air temp it’s just what the wood temp is. That’s why I vent slowly during the whole process. Keeps temps up and all wood stays wet long enough to keep pulling moisture. Otherwise the wood dries to fast and the inside never releases the moisture. It can be a tricky process that’s for sure. Takes time to figure out how you designed it. Plus you don’t want to be going through a lot of wood in the boiler just to dry firewood. Plus all the energy it takes to run as well. You will figure it out I’m sure.
Great video, thank you for the information. Completely understand why you do not want to give all your secrets away. A lot of work/research, engineering, possible “failed” cycles, and time put in. Again great video 🔥
Yeah I hope everyone understands that hard work and figuring some things out on their own is more worth it in the end. Otherwise you will never fully understand the process and how to adjust accordingly. Plus you just have more skin in the game.
Hello Matt
Nice Video...lots of planning and trials and errors on perfecting on most anything that one wants to develop for one's unique situation !!
And the different ways of selling firewood depending on where you live and the availability of wood and types !!
Example You and Jeff ( Log Father )
Two TOTAL different ways of selling firewood and both work !!😊
You have a Good Day 😊
Yeah. I love watching his channel. It’s nice to see honest firewood talk and numbers. Someone that’s really good with business like myself and truly understand the bottom dollar and what makes sense. I wish I could do what he does and make it and deliver it green right away. But here in America people do not want to go the extra mile and season it themselves. It’s all about now now now. Which is fine. Although I do have some that stock a year in advance. Which is nice.
@Treestofirewood
😁👍
Good talk on your process and honesty of what you have to balance 👍
It’s always about follow the money. I’m all about the numbers. If the numbers make sense then I do it. If it doesn’t then what’s the point. I feel a lot of people do firewood but truly don’t know there true cost of doing business. I track everything so I know exactly what it cost me to produce and deliver a facecord. Down to the average cent. Just like any big buisness.
Hello Matt, excellent video on your process of your kiln!nice operation Matt.👍🇺🇸
Thank you. I needed to address some questions and get the info out. Would hate for someone to try and do what I have done and not fully understand what it takes to run.
Great informational video Matt, enjoyed it very much.
Thank you. I feel I needed to get it out there as there was a whole lot of interest in it. Would hate for someone to invest in similar stuff and have no idea what it cost to run besides the upfront cost of materials.
You have it down to a true science
Yes indeed I do. Took a while to get there. But I’m a perfectionist. Try to be as efficient as I can be. So no wasted energy or wood. Streamline the process.
I have learned a few secrets when it comes to running these “kilns” except the kiln I oversee is not for wood. It requires @ 10 mbtus input and moves @ 14,000scfms. It’s @ 100’L x 15’H x 10’W. Its heat is supplied by 4-7Mbtu boilers (gas) which is a medium temp system (280-290*f water, 80-100psi with circulation rates of up to 900 gpms) there’s a lot that goes into engineering and design to allow pumps to handle high pressure water and temps over 300*f along with fans that deal with exhaust streams of 260*f. Exhaust leaving “kiln” is passed thru an air scrubber which uses chemicals and water to clean.
Yeah those are some high tech kilns. It’s pretty cool to see the science behind them.
@ it’s unbelievable to some what it takes to keep a municipal wastewater facility operational and in compliance for current and future regulations
Good information matt thank you sir. I don't blame you for hanging on to some secrets. Thanks for being willing to respond to my emails as well.
No problem. Like I said I’m always willing to help. Sometimes the obvious is right in front of you. You just don’t realize it.
How much of your moisture do you think leaves via the dehumidifier? Vs venting? I ran dehumidification kilns for years, they definitely had appreciable electric consumption. I’m currently just venting my firewood kiln for moisture removal. Waiting to see what the heat recovery time will be this winter, will be the first winter for it. As a side note, I sometimes prewarm my kiln with a 285000 BTU diesel fired torpedo heater…..
I no longer dehumidify the kiln. I just pull moisture with my exhaust vents/fan. Venting for me is just faster and more consistent for the way I have designed the kiln. When you say heat recover what do you mean? When venting are you worried about heat loss within the kiln? What’s your normal heat source?
@@Treestofirewood I’m using an outdoor boiler with a water to air exchanger, similar to your concept. I’m still dialing in my venting. My vent system purges the entire container rapidly and completely, but it draws it an equal amount of outside air. On damp days that has been a problem, leading to constant venting. Still trying to figure out a way to automate that better. I’m wondering what it will be like on super cold days in terms of demand on the heating system.
@CouncilHill-zz3pu yeah the goal is to keep temps up and purge moist air. Once the internal wood reaches whatever your desired temp is it should be quick to regain the air temp in the kiln again. I wouldn’t worry to much on the air temp it’s just what the wood temp is. That’s why I vent slowly during the whole process. Keeps temps up and all wood stays wet long enough to keep pulling moisture. Otherwise the wood dries to fast and the inside never releases the moisture. It can be a tricky process that’s for sure. Takes time to figure out how you designed it. Plus you don’t want to be going through a lot of wood in the boiler just to dry firewood. Plus all the energy it takes to run as well. You will figure it out I’m sure.