The reason I gravitate towards Jinjer is exactly that they couldn’t care less about my expectations or personal preferences. I know some of the elements which are probably there, but they manage to always throw in something new and exciting. I love that falsetto part - it’s been playing in my head non stop. And the first listening of any Jinjer song has always left me a bit puzzled - subsequent ones are required to fully unpack and make things click in their place. And I wouldn’t want it any other way.
This song exhibits a realm of Tati's vocal prowess that I haven't seen before. I mean, I already thought she was stunningly versatile, and she just added to it. She's amazing.
The track "Someone's Daughter" is well worth your time. It's also from the upcoming album. Great video too, you get to see the guys as well as Tati. Regarding your comments at the end: I find some Jinjer tracks very hard to grasp - often it's a lot of work to fit my head round where they are going. They don't care about easy hooks, normal timing, normal chord progressions, standard chord phrasing, instrumental solos or any of the usual musical furniture. It makes it hard to get a grip sometimes. However, many of the tracks I struggled to understand are now my favourites. It's often rewarding and sometimes eye-opening and always refreshing. They are easily my favourite modern band.
Its like being in a race car, trying to go around a circuit for the first time with full speed....you will be thrown of in the Corners...but in a few tries you learn the track and can follow it without being thrown off......does that makes sense..thats how I See Jinjer..some songs I have trouble with,,,but often after a few listens they slowly becomes one of my favorite.
The title sounds like it's a hard topic, do you know what it's about? It's cool, in a way, that you have to put work into that, it's kind of a natural 'gatekeeper', but that also means they don't make it easy on themselves. :D I never had a problem with complicated music, only when 'making it complicated' came at a cost of the music, if that makes sense. I knew people who just tried to write the most difficult, off putting stuff, to challenge themselves and didn't care about 'music' in that sense, as something artistic, or that could create emotions. With Jinjer I don't have that feeling even for a second, same with bands as Opeth, or Periphery. That's the 'Progressive' I love. Thank you so much for your comment, I will continue with Jinjer, already have your suggestion with 'Someone's Daughter' and also got 'Kafka' which sounds interesting. :)
As a guitarist of 40+ years Jinjer is one of my top five bands ever on the level of Opeth and animals as leaders. This is pure art that refuses to be bound by contemporary music theory or structure formulas. I actually dont expect the average listener to get it even if they get over the shock factor
I'd love to say the shock factor is over, but they continue to do it... Jinjer is everything I could ever ask for in a band. Complexity without being obnoxious or arrogant. Absolutely humble people doing what they love, and giving the world true art
Good point, I played guitar for over 10 years, I kind of understand a bit that's going on, that makes it a bit easier to grasp, but you still have to work for it and that's a good thing. Mentioning them with legends like Opeth and AAL shows how much respect you have for them.
"Complexity without being obnoxious or arrogant." so well put, I mentioned something similar in another comment, how som 'Prog' music is complicated for the sake of being complicated and I can't connect with that, but Jinjer doesn't give me that impression for even a second.
@kaNjiXIII Enjoy) One more Jinjer's song that really manipulates my feelings and expectations is I speak astronomy. Sorry, I spoiled a little, but this journey is worth of going...
There are many music lovers who find the musical complexity of Jinjer's structures too difficult and who find it hard to headbang ;-) But that's exactly what makes Jinjer so special and I love this band!!! You need time to understand them, if you don't have that > there are enough other bands for these music lovers to turn to... thanx for your reaction and lovely greetings from the german musician
I have to say I really appreciate it, but I also have to be in the right mood for a challenge, haha. Although I wouldn't like to miss out of them, just because it's difficult. 'Nothing in life worth having comes easy' right? For headbanging, knowing the song is mandatory tho. hahaha Thank you so much, loved your comment.
The lack of flow, as you put it, is what makes Jinjer great. It takes multiple listens to appreciate their songs and the complexity adds depth that is missing from bands that seem more accessible.
Definitely, they are so unique, but you really need to 'work' for it, to appreciate it and a bit of music knowledge also doesn't hurt. haha It probably also is depends on the day that I'm having, sometimes I just need straight forward, sometimes I love me some complicated stuff.
The chord name you are looking for is known as the "Jinjer# add9" chord. This song is beautifull dark heavy AF blessing your soul all at the same time. BRILLIANT!
lol bitten by green serpent in slavic tradition is symbolic of alcoholism and the depths of intoxication/addiction.....as for the song the opeth outro is cool. Middle LOG breakdown is cool. Also kinda sounds like an angular proggy album cut on first listen, but maybe it's just another grower jinjer song.....also tati looks hot here 😂😂 Jinjer - Audiotree From Nothing (Live Performance) Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Live in LA)
Oh wow, thanks for that information, I didn't know that. With that background info I need to have a look at the lyrics now. Wait, the grapes also make so much sense now..., god dammit. With complicated stuff like that, it almost always is a grower. Thank you so much for taking the time and for the suggestions, much appreciated.
For me, many Jinjer songs are a bit off-putting at first for exactly the reasons you mention, they are all over the place and never what you expect. However, I have yet to find a song from them that after a few listens I didn't absolutely adore once I got the time to process and see what all is going on. The video you mention, I Speak Astronomy, was one of those songs for me, it was a bit overwhelming at first, but I love it now. I suggest just diving in and listening to a lot of their music, it starts to make more sense the more you listen! Of the recent releases I feel like someone's daughter is probably the best to start with, then Kafka, I love Rogue but it was another one of the ones that had to grow on me, although it is entirely heavy, no clean vocals. Older stuff that got me into Jinjer would be Perennial (live at Wacken 2019), judgement and punishment (vocal one take is great), or the teacher teacher official music video.
I love the fact that every comment I read so far is on the same page with that and no one judged me for saying that. :D Today I listened to green serpent again, while reading the lyrics and now with the knowledge I got from a comment, that bitten by a green serpent is a symbol for alcoholism in slavic tradition..., totally different song, like, it felt different and so good and you can get into the rhythm with a bit of practice. That's just super cool about them. Crazy that you know which song I meant, from my shitty description. xD Someone's daughter, as well as Kafka both sound super interesting, looking forward to that, thank you. :)
Roman has three go-to's he always uses. He always uses arpeggiated chords; he uses augmented power chords for those extra dark crunchies, especially that A5# on that open A string; and he plays a root, octave, and 3rd or minor 3rd instead of normal power chords.
Uh, like the writer? Reading 'Letter to the Father' really changed my life in a way. I also really like 'the judgement'. My god..., that means if I want to react to that song I'll need to deep dive into the lyrics first. Nothings easy with that band, haha, I love a challenge tho.
The snake might have been a bit afraid of her but clearly it got over it.
Yes, I really hope the snake is ok.
The reason I gravitate towards Jinjer is exactly that they couldn’t care less about my expectations or personal preferences. I know some of the elements which are probably there, but they manage to always throw in something new and exciting. I love that falsetto part - it’s been playing in my head non stop. And the first listening of any Jinjer song has always left me a bit puzzled - subsequent ones are required to fully unpack and make things click in their place. And I wouldn’t want it any other way.
This song exhibits a realm of Tati's vocal prowess that I haven't seen before. I mean, I already thought she was stunningly versatile, and she just added to it. She's amazing.
For me, this is the 1st single from the forthcoming album that strongly resonated right off the bat.
That puzzled feeling is something I can see myself get addicted to and also the moment you relisten and learn something new, really a special band.
So versatile. :D Looking forward for what's to come.
Need to watch the others as well, but after listening to it a few times now, it grew so much for me.
The track "Someone's Daughter" is well worth your time. It's also from the upcoming album. Great video too, you get to see the guys as well as Tati.
Regarding your comments at the end: I find some Jinjer tracks very hard to grasp - often it's a lot of work to fit my head round where they are going. They don't care about easy hooks, normal timing, normal chord progressions, standard chord phrasing, instrumental solos or any of the usual musical furniture. It makes it hard to get a grip sometimes. However, many of the tracks I struggled to understand are now my favourites. It's often rewarding and sometimes eye-opening and always refreshing. They are easily my favourite modern band.
Its like being in a race car, trying to go around a circuit for the first time with full speed....you will be thrown of in the Corners...but in a few tries you learn the track and can follow it without being thrown off......does that makes sense..thats how I See Jinjer..some songs I have trouble with,,,but often after a few listens they slowly becomes one of my favorite.
The title sounds like it's a hard topic, do you know what it's about?
It's cool, in a way, that you have to put work into that, it's kind of a natural 'gatekeeper', but that also means they don't make it easy on themselves. :D
I never had a problem with complicated music, only when 'making it complicated' came at a cost of the music, if that makes sense. I knew people who just tried to write the most difficult, off putting stuff, to challenge themselves and didn't care about 'music' in that sense, as something artistic, or that could create emotions.
With Jinjer I don't have that feeling even for a second, same with bands as Opeth, or Periphery.
That's the 'Progressive' I love.
Thank you so much for your comment, I will continue with Jinjer, already have your suggestion with 'Someone's Daughter' and also got 'Kafka' which sounds interesting. :)
Makes sense. :)
Great metaphor.
As a guitarist of 40+ years Jinjer is one of my top five bands ever on the level of Opeth and animals as leaders. This is pure art that refuses to be bound by contemporary music theory or structure formulas. I actually dont expect the average listener to get it even if they get over the shock factor
Crazy eh? Jinjer is fascinating… Much respect to this band ✊
I'd love to say the shock factor is over, but they continue to do it... Jinjer is everything I could ever ask for in a band. Complexity without being obnoxious or arrogant. Absolutely humble people doing what they love, and giving the world true art
Good point, I played guitar for over 10 years, I kind of understand a bit that's going on, that makes it a bit easier to grasp, but you still have to work for it and that's a good thing. Mentioning them with legends like Opeth and AAL shows how much respect you have for them.
'Fascinating' is the perfect word for it.
"Complexity without being obnoxious or arrogant." so well put, I mentioned something similar in another comment, how som 'Prog' music is complicated for the sake of being complicated and I can't connect with that, but Jinjer doesn't give me that impression for even a second.
Yes, they are playing with my expectations, and I like this journey 😉
My recommendation is Someone's daughter from the new album. Loved it
Thanks for the recommendation.
@kaNjiXIII Enjoy) One more Jinjer's song that really manipulates my feelings and expectations is I speak astronomy. Sorry, I spoiled a little, but this journey is worth of going...
There are many music lovers who find the musical complexity of Jinjer's structures too difficult and who find it hard to headbang ;-) But that's exactly what makes Jinjer so special and I love this band!!!
You need time to understand them, if you don't have that > there are enough other bands for these music lovers to turn to...
thanx for your reaction and lovely greetings from the german musician
I have to say I really appreciate it, but I also have to be in the right mood for a challenge, haha.
Although I wouldn't like to miss out of them, just because it's difficult.
'Nothing in life worth having comes easy' right?
For headbanging, knowing the song is mandatory tho. hahaha
Thank you so much, loved your comment.
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The lack of flow, as you put it, is what makes Jinjer great. It takes multiple listens to appreciate their songs and the complexity adds depth that is missing from bands that seem more accessible.
Definitely, they are so unique, but you really need to 'work' for it, to appreciate it and a bit of music knowledge also doesn't hurt. haha
It probably also is depends on the day that I'm having, sometimes I just need straight forward, sometimes I love me some complicated stuff.
@@kaNjiXIII Once you listen to it 4 or 5 times it becomes straight forward...
@@mikedanger6323 Still need to get there, last days I was consumed by Spiritbox. 😅
The chord name you are looking for is known as the "Jinjer# add9" chord. This song is beautifull dark heavy AF blessing your soul all at the same time. BRILLIANT!
Love that it has it's own name by now. haha
Also like the topic of the song, which I was not aware of when I first listened to it. :)
I love that they are progressive and are not commercial. Junjer is an adventure.
They definitely are and I'm enjoying the ride.
My life,все буде добре.Ми переможемо.Вороги згинуть.
Thank you for the comment, I tried to google translate it, but it didn't really work. :/ Hope you are well.
lol bitten by green serpent in slavic tradition is symbolic of alcoholism and the depths of intoxication/addiction.....as for the song the opeth outro is cool. Middle LOG breakdown is cool. Also kinda sounds like an angular proggy album cut on first listen, but maybe it's just another grower jinjer song.....also tati looks hot here 😂😂
Jinjer - Audiotree From Nothing (Live Performance)
Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Live in LA)
Tati looks hot af like a zillitrillion out of ten or something similar
Oh wow, thanks for that information, I didn't know that. With that background info I need to have a look at the lyrics now. Wait, the grapes also make so much sense now..., god dammit.
With complicated stuff like that, it almost always is a grower.
Thank you so much for taking the time and for the suggestions, much appreciated.
For me, many Jinjer songs are a bit off-putting at first for exactly the reasons you mention, they are all over the place and never what you expect. However, I have yet to find a song from them that after a few listens I didn't absolutely adore once I got the time to process and see what all is going on. The video you mention, I Speak Astronomy, was one of those songs for me, it was a bit overwhelming at first, but I love it now. I suggest just diving in and listening to a lot of their music, it starts to make more sense the more you listen! Of the recent releases I feel like someone's daughter is probably the best to start with, then Kafka, I love Rogue but it was another one of the ones that had to grow on me, although it is entirely heavy, no clean vocals. Older stuff that got me into Jinjer would be Perennial (live at Wacken 2019), judgement and punishment (vocal one take is great), or the teacher teacher official music video.
I love the fact that every comment I read so far is on the same page with that and no one judged me for saying that. :D
Today I listened to green serpent again, while reading the lyrics and now with the knowledge I got from a comment, that bitten by a green serpent is a symbol for alcoholism in slavic tradition..., totally different song, like, it felt different and so good and you can get into the rhythm with a bit of practice. That's just super cool about them.
Crazy that you know which song I meant, from my shitty description. xD
Someone's daughter, as well as Kafka both sound super interesting, looking forward to that, thank you. :)
Roman has three go-to's he always uses. He always uses arpeggiated chords; he uses augmented power chords for those extra dark crunchies, especially that A5# on that open A string; and he plays a root, octave, and 3rd or minor 3rd instead of normal power chords.
Thank you so much for the education in Music theory.
Thanks from UKRAINE,l a see ❤👍
Thank you
This is yet another amazing song. Try listening to Kafka! It blew my mind away on how creative as a WHOLE BAND!
Uh, like the writer? Reading 'Letter to the Father' really changed my life in a way. I also really like 'the judgement'. My god..., that means if I want to react to that song I'll need to deep dive into the lyrics first. Nothings easy with that band, haha, I love a challenge tho.
As i boil ice
I hope that's a song title... xD
Vlad commented that “melancholic” is kinda the Ukrainian metal identity.
Unfortunately makes a lot of sense, especially at the moment...
@@cyberia55 Same with us Finns. Metal and melancholy is running through our veins.
hot girl band? Crypta the other side of anger offical or crypta from the ashes live wacken 2022
Understand the fangs but don't like the look.
True, also would be super annoying in everyday life I'd assume. xD