fun fact: the magnificent is a title used for Suleiman mainly by enemies of the Ottomans. When you enemies call you magnificent, you deserve the title.
Ottomans: "I am the new Rome!" Jannisary imperial guard: "Then allow us to introduce ourselves, your new Praetorian Guards. With all the treachery and political interference of the original." Persia: "Time to restart the centuries long wars with you! Its just like the old days of Rome!"
@@Raantas they killed multiple if I remember correctly. The one that made me mad to read was of a young sultan who simply lessened their coffee rations as a punishment and they responded by snapping his neck.
Not to mention that they lost their conquests past the Danube, much like the Romans, the latter of which was intentional just so they can get a stable and defensible border. IDK much about the former but the losses would have ironically benefitted the Turks
I see the Ottomans less as a sick man and more as an aging tiger. It may not be the absolute monster it used to be, but it will fucking maul your face is you mess with it. Perfect example: the Gallipoli campaign.
@@obliviousotterI Eeeeeeh... their plan relied on the Ottomans not putting up a fight. They put up a lot of a fight. Yes, the Entente plan was... well, awful - but the Ottomans' defense shouldn't be discounted as a large contributing factor in that blunder.
@@obliviousotterI I would say both an allied disaster and an ottoman success. The disaster is that the allied pretty much had no solid plan on how to deal with a stern defence. And the success is the ottomans being able to put up a decent defense against them.
I absolutely loved that you mentioned that Constantinople was called Konstantiniyye until 1922, when it was renamed to Istanbul. Too many people think it was renamed to Istanbul in 1453.
@@laksamanaagiladitya1093 He defeated the Byzantines actually. Because after that event he forced Byzantines to cover rear walls (Golden Horde side) so main walls to be less guarded. Eventually walls were breached and Constantinople was conquered.
My dad is a history teacher, and when we talked about the Ottomans while I was growing up, I think he had a good way of explaining it. "The Ottoman Empire was TOO successful." For almost 600 years, no nation in Europe could really challenge it like they did each other, and Ottoman leadership understood this. As centuries passed, this led to a resistance towards reforms and modernization (why do we need to make changes when what we're doing is already making us one of the wealthiest, most powerful nations on Earth?) Meanwhile, Europe continues to change. The Congress of Vienna paves out international cooperation between European powers across the whole globe, lasting through the 19th century. The Crimean War brings forth new understadings of battle tactics and military strategy with modern weaponry. All these things go on while the Ottomans remain largely the same. Sociologically, Blue, that is not so much as "stagnation" as it is "social inertia," which is just as deadly to nations. The antebellum period before WWI came and the Ottomans finally understood the fatality of their hubris: the world had left them behind. Once that happened, all they could do was scramble for relevance... they still are today.
Basically what happened to China. "Hey, we're the best civilization in the world, let's just shut all those jerks out and sit on our hands". Then 100 years later you discover that everybody else has guns and steam power and well-trained armies.
For almost a thousand years? What? The Empire was around for 500 years, little over 600 if you want to count in the very first steps, and with the end of the 17th century they were already starting to get outperformed by states like the growing russian empire or certainly by France which was real the powerhouse of Europe at the time Otherwise you have good points about the inept social nature
I agree with a lot of what you said, but the whole "almost a thousand years" part is really a stretch. 600 years doesn't round up to a thousand, and during those 600 years it's hard to make an argument that they were dominant for more than 200. Unless you're also talking about the seljuks, but that's like comparing the magyars to the hungarians.
19th century is the time where Europe actually goes all Hulk on the world. The colonization of America has been going on for some centuries, but that had been really easy because almost the entire population had ben wiped out by disease and there wasn't anybody left alive to resist them. But Europe as a continent of Great Powers and Super Powers really is just a thing of the 19th and 20th century. And with Asian countries catching up, it's already over. Europe having global domination was a fluke of history. It's not predestined to any greatness at all.
Forgot to mention how colonization of the Americas gave Europe access to goods and trade routes that made dealing with the Ottomans completely unnecessary, thus making it even harder for them to maintain a hold on the economy of Eurasia.
He also forgot to mention a certain incident involving the USS Philadelphia, a company of angry US Marines, and the cannon batteries overlooking Tripoli
Competition with Portugal was a much larger factor as there wasn't a massive overlap of goods between the new world and the Indian Ocean to begin with.
It wasn't the Americas, but the discovery of maritime route to India, which royally fucked the Otoman embargo on Europe and tge control of trade flow through the middle east. Also the Italian city states like Venice who had deals with the ottomans began their sharp decline the following years after.
Yeah Spain really had it hard and fast. Like from most of the New World + Spain itself + most of Italy and the Netherlands to Spain + Philippines and Cuba in a very short amount of time as if they were Alexander the Great/Genghis Khan. Taking a lot of land in a short time then suddenly collapsing into a small core territory.
Actually, in the Spanish case, it's fairly likely that they could have held on to everything for longer, much as the British did, if they had focused on actual economic development in the Americas. Instead, they primarily concerned themselves with the acquisition of gold and silver, causing hyperinflation and kicking off a centuries long tradition of fiscal and monetary mismanagement which continues to the present day.
@@mrrodgers0 Exactly! Though to be fair ironically the lack of many precious materials in North America kind of forced the people to build an independent economy.
Well, no. Spain was dominant in the late 1500s and early 1600s, a medium power (but still just as large an empire) up until the 1800s, and collapsed almost entirely in the early 1800s. Even then, Spain still had powerful enough a fleet, enough to challenge the British at Trafalgar, which went well. For the Brits.
@Arjan Singh damn son, i had to annex byzantium myself and then release them as a puppet and play as them just to conquer greece... Then the venicians attacked
When Frederick II of Prussia was asked by a bavarian catholic, if he was allowed to live in Prussia and even spread his religion, he responded with: "All religions are equal and good, as long as it's followers are good people. And if muslims or hugenots come into our country, we shall build them mosques and churches." Since day 1, Prussia was always a country of religious freedom. From the Great Elector, who welcomed hugenots into his country, to the King of Soldiers, who rebuild an old barn into a mosque. So it's no suprise that Prussia tried to keep positive relations with the Ottoman Empire. Even Otto von Bismarck, the founding father of Germany, was a friend of the Ottoman Empire (Quote: "The love between Turks and Germans is so old, that it will never break apart."). Unlike all other european countries, who either wanted to take advantage of the "Sick man of Europe" condition or just didn't care, the germans wanted to help the Ottoman Empire, return to former glory and defend itself, from the french and british invaders. In the late 19th century, Wilhelm II of Germany visited Istanbul, where he declared himself as the "Protector of all muslims". In 1900, the germans gave the people of the Ottoman Empire a wonderful gift: the German Fountain (Which is located in Istanbul, by the way.). Meant to showcase Germany's loyality towards the Ottoman Empire. Since clean, free water was extremly rare in Istanbul, it was seen as an act of pure generousity by the locals. In order to help the Ottoman Empire, fight off the Entente, the germans build a superfast railroad through the Ottoman Empire. It ended up being extremly helpful in battle. The german soldiers also called the ottomans "Waffenbrüder", which is a affactionate way to say war ally in Germany. Despite the fall of both the German Empire and Ottoman Empire, both countries still tried to keep close ties during the 1920's. For example: When the Turkish Republic was founded, Atatürk send most turkish exchange students to german universities. The friendship between turks and prussians was also the reason why there was not only a peace treaty between Nazi Germany and the Turkish Republic, but also why turkish exchange students and tourists were treated pretty well in Nazi Germany. In other words: Bismarck was right, not even the nazis were able to destroy the friendship between Germany and Turkey. Nowadays, turks are the biggest ethnic minority in Germany and doner kebab is the most popular fast food in Germany. I just want nobody to forget this part of history.
Little Prussian beautifully put. I think the history is so ancient and the friendship so long standing. It won’t be spoken about anymore because people want to divide all our nations. The truth is there is a bloodline which binds certain countries and people and it always will.
Just History Actually he just used the wealth his father gained. He lost at Vienna, killed the promising and loved princes and made very bad deals with French and some other western kingdoms.
Your pronunciation is amazing. As a turkish speaking person, you may be the best foreigner at pronouncing Turkish names that I know of. Also love the great content
The Pontic Greek language is called by its native speakers Ρωμαίικα(Romeika) and in Turkish it's called Rumca. There is also the Greek minority in Constantinople that is not called Yunan minority, but the Rum minority. So we can see that the use of the word "Roman" to describe the Greeks still persists to this day, in and out of Greece.
the fact that you even bothered to say this with the upvotes that you got says how much you (and the upvoters) care about the people who made this video. You just don't want them to get criticised, because the video was good. In reality though it's just criticism. Your response is simply immature and unnecessary. If the Arabic was really trash, then it's trash. If it's not trash, then he's wrong, and there's no need to waste your time typing up an oxymoron comment.
sultan yildirim was also called thunderbolt because of how fast he could gather troops and get them to where they needed to go, he would show up weeks earlier than expected by the enemy
Remembering the Ottomans as "the sick man of Europe" is like remembering the Roman Empire as "that one empire that collapsed" or "those guys the Ottomans conquered".
2:35: I mean, if it's a choice between killing a few princes and risking a civil war, the former probably wastes fewer lives in the long run... 6:00: The Janissaries are one of the perfect examples of why not all slaves are equal, and why you shouldn't equivocate (say) African-on-African slavery with enslavement of Africans in the Americas. After all, being enslaved in the Sultan's personal guard was one of the few fast tracks to power available to lower classes. It still sucked, but it sucked less than many other historical examples of slavery. 9:35: I mean, if your imperial stuff has reached a peak, by definition you're in decline. Loophole! (But yeah, the _real_ decline didn't set in for a while.)
I don't really know of anyone who refers to them as "the sick man of Europe" unless they are talking abut World War one and its build up (also take some issue with the suggestion that the term was implying that the rest of Europe was just waiting for them to die as several powers helped prop them up occasionally for the sake of stability). Though no one knew it then they arguably had competition for that title with Austria-Hungry (and that's not just with knowing how the war ended for them) as the war revealed just how much of a non power this formally great one had become.
Since the very end of the 18th century that title was rather fitting to them, after they lost Crima they were on a constant decline, unable to really protect themselves anymore from russian expansion, while also losing the grip on the territory they formerly hold, at that point the empire was just falling apart piece by piece
Wow! Im out of breath just listening, for some reason. I took a course in university on the ottoman empire from 1800 to mid 1960s, and you covered that whole period in like less than a minute. That makes me realize just how monumentally huge their story before that was. You've made me realize just how vastly much more material there is for me to learn, but you've also inspired me to learn more. Thanks!
"...spend over two centuries doing the impossible. Sitting back and chilling out." Ooooh, so that's why it's called an ottoman. *Sits back and puts feet up* Just Chilling
Actually, the type of furniture is a sort of backless couch that's often used as a footstool or... coffee table? Who'd use a glorified pillow with legs to hold beer and nachos?
@Kurt Rustle Do you mean Cem Sultan thing? I don't think it was a big civil war like Ottoman Interregnum I hope its the correct name for "Fetret Devri") it was a much bigger compared to cem Sultan. Ottoman Interregnum lasted 11 years but Cem Sultanget on the throne on 27 May 1481 and lost a war on 20 June 1481 and after that, he just went to different countries and requested help but it didn't work (He was probably poisoned and his body didn't return to the country until 1499 -he died in 1495-)
As far as I know, its his kafan, the cloth that is used wrap the body after death. This hat remarks the commitment of Sultan, he carries his last cloth meaning he is ready to die where he stands.
Revelations IS highly underrated! A damn fine ending for the Ezio trilogy, loved every minute. The flashbacks to the 2nd game had me in tears. Dem feels bro
Technically speaking though "chilling and doing nothing" is the exact definition of stagnation. As far as empires are concerned you're either growing or you're in decline I think. Stagnation itself is either the start of one or the other and in cases like this history has shown it to end up being the latter.
I mean yeah but it also carries the implication that it is slowly in decline. And it also gets applied in weird ways where people will insist that at times the Byzantine Empire wasn't stagnating despite never even getting close to the size of the Roman Empire, at most just reconquering a bit of land for a little while. I mean really throughout it's entire history the trend was one of decline but people will insist that it wasn't.
@@hedgehog3180 Well, the Byzantine Empire started as THE major player in the region and ended as a starving, besieged city with not even enough inhabitants to man the walls it was cowering behind. So was it in constant stagnation or decline throughout its thousand-year history? Hardly. First of all, peace and stability is not the same as stagnation - during peacetime in the early half or so of its history, Constantinople and other towns in the Empire prospered. Trade made the city rich, technological superiority and infrastructure, massive fortifications and a strong military kept it safe. The Empire protected pilgrims to the "Holy Land", the Eastern Church helped influence religion throughout all of Europe (though perhaps not as much as patriarchs would have liked). Wars for territory and influence were won and lost, there were strong and weak rulers, times of prosperity and depression but the Empire and its capital stood strong. A somewhat steady decline only happened during the latter few centuries of its history. The technological edge diminished, the wealth was lost in large part to crusaders looting the city, Italian republics took over the trade and in the end, even the mighty Theodosian Walls fell to the Turkish invaders. Sure, the Byzantine Empire never lived up to Roman greatness at the height of its power and an argument can be made that it was merely the last vestige of the declining Roman Empire. But to believe that an empire can exist for a thousand years in constant stagnation or decline is just silly.
Was gonna reply with something similar. Thank you for completing the task before I arrived. Indeed, societies are like organisms in that way: Either they grow in strength (though not always in size) & only become more powerful, or they age as corruption & decrepitude increase. Once a society is weak enough, it is prey for whatever society can come along & take it. _There is no such thing as a steady-state existence,_ not in nature nor in politics.
Say what you want about the Ottomans, but those dudes consistently had dope beards. As a man who possesses his own set of fabulous facial hair I can appreciate that!
AHMED FRHAN - I guess having a dick is just not enough these days. Well, I refuse to consider you a man unless you have at least one square cm more hair than me. Enjoy your life as a woman now.
This is such a fantastic video. You’re really good at explaining things in plane words. I also really appreciate you clarifying things we might mistakenly assume. Like, I pictured the early ottoman empire’s businesses to be more like a free market of grass roots stores and services, but you clarified “no, that’s not how things always are. Their businesses were closely tied in with the Sultan and the government as a whole”. Something that a history buff might already assume, but us averagely educated people don’t even consciously question or think about. You have definitely earned these views and while I’m not even that interested in history as a whole, I’ll be giving you a sub anyway. Thanks so much for contributing to the high-quality educational video selection here on TH-cam.
The funny thing is Ottomans refused to officially recognize the partitions of Poland-Lithuania (or Lechistan, as they called it). They were kinda like "How dare you to erase our Worthy Opponent from the map?!". Ottoman Empire became the refuge for Polish freedom fighters/revolutionaries on several occasions. Most notable example being gen. Józef Bem.
@@JasonDoe1000 Stability? Rome was constantly fighting intern conflicts and suffering from the effcet of the destruction of the regions of the empire, due to Rome using plunder tactics to make certian areas reliant to others like thhe silver mines, not to mention that many cities were desserted due to Romans rendering regions such as Tuscany useless for ecconomic gain and pretty much forced them to live in Rome, which is why it's still impoverished after these Centuries.
Can you do a video on the Dutch Republic? No reason except my little sister is studying in Amsterdam and its gotten me all interested in their history.
Ooooh, you can tie a bunch of Late Medieval-Rennaissance politics and economics into it! We're one of those countries that have sort-of existed for a long time, but were usually busy infighting or having other people rule us* (and joining Belgium in ruling suprisingly large colonies in turn). *Granted, we fell back into old habits around 1940, but everyone else was doing it too and we got swept up in the enthusiasm.
Speaking as a Dutchman, it's not that interesting. Some trade and genocide, what's new under the sun? There aren't that many cool stories in there, not until you get past Napoleon at least. But i am curious where you're from, care to share?
I'm gonna be honest - it's October, and you didn't take up the opportunity to even *namedrop* The Son of the Dragon himself. We expect this to be rectified before All Hallow's Eve. Do not disappoint.
I am not remotely Turkish, but I spent 6 weeks there, and your pronunciation of Sultan makes me happy! (I've read it and pronounced it that way since my trip and meeting a Turkish woman named Sultana.)
No battle of Vienna? Most historians view that as the big turning point against the Ottomans, they tried to conquer Austria and the Europeans said no, with the largest cavalry charge in history.
There were TWO battles of Vienna, both of which were decisive losses for the Turks and curiously enough neither one is mentioned in this video! Suleiman the Magnificent failed to take Vienna after suffering heavy losses in 1529. During the subsequent withdrawal a shortage of supplies combined with horrible weather decimated his army. The Ottomans tried to spin it as a victory but the campaign was an unequivocal failure. Some historians believe the campaign had 'limited objectives' which did not include the seizure and conquest of Vienna, an absolutely ridiculous assertion in light of the scope of the operation and number of troops involved. Suleiman was going for total victory and failed spectacularly.
They're lightly skipped over "a thing at Vienna which didn't go anywhere" at 9:55. IIRC, Ottoman Endgame (Sean McMeekin) claims that this could be the setback that caused the Ottomans to begin turning away from science and technology and towards religion which, as Europe was on a strong rise, nerfed them.
First Vienna wasn't a serious lose but Second Vienna was the thing that made europans team up. Second Vienna was actualy going to be a victory but Kırım Khan II Murat Giray Khan betrayed because the leader of conquest wasn't going to loot the city but take it without demaging anything. but II Murat Giray Khan didn't agree with that. He was going to ambush Polish army on a bridge but he did nothing.
Great video, you got everything correctly and your pronunciation of Turkish is great! Although small correction: Sykes-Picot agreement was a secret plan on how to divide the middle east. The actual treaty is the Treaty of Sevres which also included İzmir going to Greece and an Armenian state in eastern anatolia
One funny anecdote. Suleiman the Magnificent took his army, bypassed the Vienna (the curse of the Ottoman empire) and marched up to the middle of Germany(around Munich) looking for an army to fight. The problem was his arm had more than 100.000 troops and at that time no other nation had close to that numbers. So he waited there for a few weeks for someone to come. No one did. In the end the Persians decided to attack the empire's eastern flank (as they wont to) and Suleiman took his army and returned back to Istanbul. Kinda anticlimactic if you ask me.
That's exactly why we have thousands of castles and fortresses in germany. The ottomans were neither the first, nor the last unsuccessful invaders. I guess when every other decade a freaking new barbarian horde invades from the eurasian steppe, while the vikings are raiding up the rivers and the bloody french are stabbing in the back, while the Italians rebell once more, binding the emperor's army, people get used to simply waiting for autumn and winter instead of wasting lifes and resources fighting.
Nobody came out to fight?!? Suleiman besieged Vienna and failed to take it with heavy losses! He withdrew south and his army was ravaged by a shortage of supplies and bad weather. It was a spectacular failure.
Its like the last 10 minutes of an Age of Empires game when you are just sending this huge army around the map trying to find the last 2 villagers on the enemy team.
@@boahkeinbockmehr Germany also was the Holy Roman Empire, because of all of the squabbling small states each state that had the money would want their own castles where as if the HRE at that time was under more centralized rule there would likely be less castles I believe.
Being from a country that was formerly under ottoman occupation i have to admit the strategies they were using to keep a hold of our territories was impressive (though a bit of a pain in the butt), at least here in Romania To make it short they were sending foreign leaders (usually from greece and albania) -that wouldn't support a counyry they're not from anyways- to rule over as little territory as possible and not letting them in charge for more than 3 years to make sure they didnt consolidate their power
True, i'm also from a country that was formerly under ottoman occupation and the albanians were children from christian families, brainwashed into serving the empire and then being sent to other countries so they wouldn't have a chance switch side (although skanderbeg did trick them). And i agree, their strategies were good, but this video didn't do a very good job at being truthful, i don't really know the history of the eastern balkan but i'm assuming it wasn't any better than the western part, and the bad things they've done along with the many rebellions should've been mentioned
@@TheConservativeKnight6809 *_Haha. Stay salty. You got booted from vietnam and even now the united states is a complete joke. You'll fall and let china take over. I hope coronavirus fucks america._*
> Early modern Europeans referred to them as "Sick man of Europe" Hooold on right there. "Early modernity" is 1650 tops, and Ottomans weren't called that for at least for 2 hundred years more.
As a Turkish citizen I have but until 3rd episode. It has many historical errors that I couldn't bear to watch it. One example, the Grand vizier whips child Mehmed as a punishment, which is unthinkable and impossible at the time! He would have been beheaded at the spot.
Finally, I can be here using this, yeayyy. This is the first video from OSP that made me fall in love to the channel and explore more. Leann said that Blue here, you're so inspiring Maaan! I wish I can be his student, lol. Cheers OSP, best of luck, keep providing us with great content. 🍻😎
While I agree that conquered is too strong, they raided more than one island there. They raided 3 villages ( and tried to raid one more but failed ), a ship and captured 400-800 people ( maybe under 400 according to some sources, probably closer to the lower end of that range, the source saying 800 seems less credible ) which was actually around one percent of the population of Iceland at that point (60k). The whole affair lasted around a month, which is not very long but still quite some time.
So, is it just me, or are any other Turks living in America always thrilled when someone talks about Turkey or you meet someone else who’s Turkish? I feel like an excited little kid
While not remotely Turkish myself, I can understand the feeling. I'm glad when I meet anyone who plays the same games I do, or people who used to live anywhere near Kansas.
This is very accurate and objective, well done. I also appreciate the work done on the prononciation of Turkish words, that part was a blast xD. To avoid confusion and honor the work Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has done, I think it would've been better to add a map that shows the final stage of the empire, which is where WW1 ended; and Republic of Turkey wasn't founded. The Ottoman Empire reduces down to be a large city in the middle of Anatolia with no shoreline or major city control.
12:30 in the 1850s there was the Crimean War, wherein the Ottomans, France, and Britain teamed up to check Russian aggression but despite being on the winning team the Ottomans lost a lot of authority in the Black Sea and Romania took steps towards independence. It was the first time the industrial revolution’s new weapons were tried out by European powers against each other and one battle was so brutal that the site was visited by a guy who was inspired to found the International Red Cross.
I dunno, I think the idea of "stagnation" is fitting if they fall behind technologically and won't do administrative and cultural reforms. A vibrant empire in a decent plateau, "chilling" and content with not continuing to take over, needs to continue to reform to remain vibrant. The stagnation wasn't the lack of continued territorial growth, but the lack of reforms until it was kinda too late. Anyway, I see the Ottomans referred to as the "sick old man of Europe" far more in the 19th century, when the problems from that stagnation really came to a head, as you noted. Before then, the Ottomans were a major power, and probably considered the big threat to Europe at large until the Battle of Vienna in 1683 (certainly not seen as a sick pushover at least until then), which was the last attempt of the Ottomans to push that far west... and they almost took Vienna, but in the aftermath lost a bunch of territory in Europe. I think that's when they start to really be looked down on, but I still think most of the stagnation is under the surface, but very real. So I think "stagnation" is a good word.
In his "chilling" phase the Ottomans weren't particularly behind the rest of Europe in any meaningful way. Its really about the French Revolution/Napoleonic Wars that the Ottoman really start to lag behind.
the trade route is conquered by ottoman meanwhile the europe need the alternative route in america. ottoman has everything. russia fight many war against ottoman because the trade route to black sea is blocked by the ottoman. thats why crimea and constantiople is the objective of russian from its very beginning. ottoman is the victim of his success.
I'm Romanian and back when I was little I once saw at the central park in my city this guy making the exact same kind of paintings shown in the video. I had completely forgotten about it until this video. Thanks, Blue, for reminding me. Thanks Turkish people for creating such amazing kinds of art :)
You did not mentioned about battle of Vienna which was quite important. Fun fact is as well that when Poland has gone from the map (partitions of Poland), the Ottoman Empire was one of only two countries in the world that refused to accept the partitions, (the other being the Persian Empire), and reserved a place in its diplomatic corps for an Ambassador of Lehistan (Poland). Despite the fact that they had fought against each other years earlier.
I don't think the Siege of Vienna was quite as important as the Battle of Lepanto, which Blue did not do justice in this video at all, as it was the Ottomans' defeat at Lepanto that permanantly trapped them in the increasingly insignificant Eastern Mediterranean and locked them out of the global trade network that would contribute to their decline and collapse.
Every time I start a new Assassin's Creed game I watch one of Blue's videos on the time period and country that it takes place in to create a historical context of what's happening. Great videos, and great games.
It is pretty unfair to call the empire in decline when it lasted in relative stability for so long, it's like they consider an empire failing the moment they stop conquering everything.
I think that you didn't mention interval fighting and massive bureaucracy as the reason of the decline. On one occasion, janissaries killed the newly appointed sultan because he didn't have the money to pay them. Also, in the early days of the empire, spahis (the nobles) earned the land through service to the state instead of inheriting it, which led then to be more loyal.
Askar Akayev Real question, not being a smartass... I can’t remember where I read it, but can you point me to something that references some ppl’s opinions (at the time) that the decline of the Ottoman Empire was also facilitated by a lack of a strong sultan due to factional fighting between the kadins (wives or mothers of the sultans’ sons) becoming more powerful, the janissaries, and the white and black eunuchs. Where in previous centuries the sultans were strong leaders with ALSO a strong bureaucracy in place to handle running the empire while the sultan was on campaign, latter sultans became more dependent on others and were weaker leaders all around. The view at the time (within the empire itself) was that the downfall of the empire was caused by the influence of the kadins and the sultan valideh (sultans mother). The time honored tradition of blaming everything on those pesky women that don’t know their place and try to involve themselves in things (like politics) that they have no business in! (Insert major eye rolls there, lmao!).... Can anyone tell me if this is all true?
You said it already but it's wild that people said that the ottoman was struggling? All other empires have a crash and burn ending meanwhile they just said "hey guys name change"
To be fair, within a century they were down to their central holdings in Anatolia. I'd call that a pretty good crash and burn. But unlike most empires, they held on to those, so you're probably right anyway :P Certainly much better than Alexander (and everyone always wants to one-up him, so congrats to Turkey for achieving that!)
The British Empire didn't crash and burn, it was gracefully let go. Which I guess depending on your view could be a much worse crash and burn than losing it in horrible wars, but most people don't have that view anymore
+David Bowe... Britain didn’t fall gracefully. It realized it was ailing, with India and South Africa, and when Egypt beat off them and France at the same time they realized that they were going to fall slowly over the next century. They decided to drop everything as fast as possible so that they might be able to get some goodwill from the Americans, as the Cold War was just beginning. That’s my perception anyway.
+Dashiell Is there anything more graceful that a state can do than giving up an empire rather than fight the desire for freedom and self determination? Every empire knew it was ailing, but it's not like Britan couldn't keep their empire if they really wanted. India is a fucking joke of a geographical location that was completely incapable of doing anything for itself, as shown by the hundreds of years of british rule after basically no fighting If you want to characterize the entire nation as just taking a pragmatic choice and playing off America's goodwill rather than having any of its own, fine, but even then it's still a lot more graceful than the rest of europe, not even mentioning asian or african empires. Letting people have self-determination without a fight is good no matter how you slice it Of course then the EU happened lel
The Ottoman Empire being "the sick man of Europe" was appropriate during 1870-1920, because that WAS when it was just sort of shrinking. But remembering it as the sick man isn't really appropriate considering a LOT of nations have collapsed in a similar fashion. Heck, look at the Roman Empire at the beginning of the video. Sick for a THOUSAND years.
The latter is ecspecialy important as it more or less pinpoints the moment the empire goes into decline with the Habsburg and suddenly also the russians pushing them back
@@Kunumbah1 yes the first siege was so irrelevant that it only stopped ottoman expansion into europe for about 100 years but hey that is completely irelevant right?
eluvian camaris Bullshit there was no strategic gain from attacking Vienna. It was a wealthy city yes, but it was surrounded by hostile European powers on every single side and had few natural defenses. You’re making such a huge fuss about “stopping Ottoman expansion into Europe” but have you ever considered that the true cause for decreased Ottoman expansion into Europe could be because I don’t know the Ottomans were focused more on the Mediterranean?
If anyone wants to know why it started going bad immediately after Suleiman the Magnificent (sorry for my spelling), he kinda screwed over his own succession… Long story short his most capable successor was not born to the woman he actually loved so he killed him. Extra Credits has a more in-depth version, but take the details with a grain of salt
Riadul Kabir Murad I feel sorry for you then, friend, for being the only human alive born with an encyclopedic knowledge of the entirety of human history, unaffected by propaganda, destruction of historical records, people not thinking something was important and forgetting to write it down, and the passage of time. Having that much knowledge must make it so hard to learn anything else. Like manners
I agree with Jarod Liberty, but is it just me or EC is kinda getting more childish-friendly and does not want to go into a brutal parts of history and so on?
Тайши Кислицын They are trying to keep it so that they can still be shown in schools, but if something is too gruesome to keep it in/had to be toned down, they would cover it in “Lies”
I think they didn't capture Iceland, But a ships captain originally from the Netherlands who converted to islam and became a pirate in the Morocco coastal region, raided Iceland for slaves.
****ignored that sole focus on the empire for 100s if years was to take Vienna, and that when they failed just before 1700, that was the ‘high water mark’ of the empire and signaled the start of the decline.....***
fun fact: the magnificent is a title used for Suleiman mainly by enemies of the Ottomans.
When you enemies call you magnificent, you deserve the title.
It was the hat, wasn't it.
@@Silverwind87
"guilty"
- Suleiman 1494 - 1566
In Arabic lit he’s “Sulaiman The Ruly” for his keeping of principals and development of many standards and rules.
@@StraightAhead135 heard something along those lines. Another epitet was "Lawmaker", if i'm not mistaken.
Original is ‘’Kanuni’’ Sultan Süleyman
Ottomans: "I am the new Rome!"
Jannisary imperial guard: "Then allow us to introduce ourselves, your new Praetorian Guards. With all the treachery and political interference of the original."
Persia: "Time to restart the centuries long wars with you! Its just like the old days of Rome!"
That escelated quickly
Praetorians killed and made many emperors. Janissaries barely killed one and made a few.
@@Raantas i wonder why jackass
@@Raantas they killed multiple if I remember correctly. The one that made me mad to read was of a young sultan who simply lessened their coffee rations as a punishment and they responded by snapping his neck.
Not to mention that they lost their conquests past the Danube, much like the Romans, the latter of which was intentional just so they can get a stable and defensible border. IDK much about the former but the losses would have ironically benefitted the Turks
Suleiman the Magnificent: “What if the Ottoman Empire was... really big?”
*And then it was*
All of Europe: Hax!!!!
Wearing an onion hat
But what if Russia was big, said Ivan trying not to be terrible
Where is Ottoman Empire now?
@@yanjnakarav2445 dead
not a single atom remains😀
I see the Ottomans less as a sick man and more as an aging tiger.
It may not be the absolute monster it used to be, but it will fucking maul your face is you mess with it. Perfect example: the Gallipoli campaign.
The Gallipoli campaign was an Allied disaster, not an ottoman success?
@@obliviousotterI
Eeeeeeh... their plan relied on the Ottomans not putting up a fight. They put up a lot of a fight. Yes, the Entente plan was... well, awful - but the Ottomans' defense shouldn't be discounted as a large contributing factor in that blunder.
@@obliviousotterI I would say both an allied disaster and an ottoman success. The disaster is that the allied pretty much had no solid plan on how to deal with a stern defence. And the success is the ottomans being able to put up a decent defense against them.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Gallipoli campaigns failure was more over them underestimating the ottomans
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055
True, but doesn't that kind of require the Ottomans to still be a threat to begin with?
I absolutely loved that you mentioned that Constantinople was called Konstantiniyye until 1922, when it was renamed to Istanbul. Too many people think it was renamed to Istanbul in 1453.
it was called Payitaht by the civils live there whuch means land of the king
The correct name actually istanabul(the city of islam)
Bence H Istanbul? Never heard of her
@@ksraimy1186 Actually the name istanbul doesn't come from istanabul, it comes from a greek term that means "to the city"
@@matheuroux5134 i doesn't said. It come from ...what i said the correct name is.... Istanabul
You didn’t mention that Mehmed 2 and his men dragged 70 ships over a hill to attack Constantinople from two sides
And here i am complaining about how a paper cut is the worst .
and what happened to his plan?
@@skyshatter3633 he defeated the byzantine navy
@@laksamanaagiladitya1093 He defeated the Byzantines actually. Because after that event he forced Byzantines to cover rear walls (Golden Horde side) so main walls to be less guarded. Eventually walls were breached and Constantinople was conquered.
@@Emrek157 thats exactly what i said.... Read my comment again.
A Greek with a Turkish roommate. Sounds like the beginning to a sitcom.
This will end either as a life-long friendship, or a bloody massacre, there's no middle ground.
@Çamaşır Suyu geez that pretty dark
too bad Greek and Turkey is like two person meddling each other
I am Turkish and my best friend is Greek. And we were roommates in college :)
Please tell me you tried to slowly take over his room.
Suleilman was so magnificent he is the only man who still looked cool with a giant onion on his head
Siegmeyer of Catarina disagrees about the only one looking cool with an onion on the head
@@UnholyWrath3277 Exactly the response I expected when I saw that comment, fellow man of culture^^
@@UnholyWrath3277 I didn't get the reference, and I am _so glad_ I looked it up! 😂
@@becauseimafan onion bro is the highest level of wholesome
@@UnholyWrath3277siegward of Catarina disrespects is wild
My dad is a history teacher, and when we talked about the Ottomans while I was growing up, I think he had a good way of explaining it.
"The Ottoman Empire was TOO successful."
For almost 600 years, no nation in Europe could really challenge it like they did each other, and Ottoman leadership understood this. As centuries passed, this led to a resistance towards reforms and modernization (why do we need to make changes when what we're doing is already making us one of the wealthiest, most powerful nations on Earth?)
Meanwhile, Europe continues to change. The Congress of Vienna paves out international cooperation between European powers across the whole globe, lasting through the 19th century. The Crimean War brings forth new understadings of battle tactics and military strategy with modern weaponry. All these things go on while the Ottomans remain largely the same. Sociologically, Blue, that is not so much as "stagnation" as it is "social inertia," which is just as deadly to nations.
The antebellum period before WWI came and the Ottomans finally understood the fatality of their hubris: the world had left them behind. Once that happened, all they could do was scramble for relevance... they still are today.
Basically what happened to China. "Hey, we're the best civilization in the world, let's just shut all those jerks out and sit on our hands". Then 100 years later you discover that everybody else has guns and steam power and well-trained armies.
For almost a thousand years? What?
The Empire was around for 500 years, little over 600 if you want to count in the very first steps, and with the end of the 17th century they were already starting to get outperformed by states like the growing russian empire or certainly by France which was real the powerhouse of Europe at the time
Otherwise you have good points about the inept social nature
I agree with a lot of what you said, but the whole "almost a thousand years" part is really a stretch. 600 years doesn't round up to a thousand, and during those 600 years it's hard to make an argument that they were dominant for more than 200. Unless you're also talking about the seljuks, but that's like comparing the magyars to the hungarians.
19th century is the time where Europe actually goes all Hulk on the world. The colonization of America has been going on for some centuries, but that had been really easy because almost the entire population had ben wiped out by disease and there wasn't anybody left alive to resist them.
But Europe as a continent of Great Powers and Super Powers really is just a thing of the 19th and 20th century. And with Asian countries catching up, it's already over. Europe having global domination was a fluke of history. It's not predestined to any greatness at all.
*@Wade Spencer* Difference is China is really finding relevance today while Turkey has a collapsing economy and civil wars.
Forgot to mention how colonization of the Americas gave Europe access to goods and trade routes that made dealing with the Ottomans completely unnecessary, thus making it even harder for them to maintain a hold on the economy of Eurasia.
He also forgot to mention a certain incident involving the USS Philadelphia, a company of angry US Marines, and the cannon batteries overlooking Tripoli
@@jamestanzer9188 he only had 15 minutes....
Competition with Portugal was a much larger factor as there wasn't a massive overlap of goods between the new world and the Indian Ocean to begin with.
:D ı mean we learned the history of ottoman empire in school like whole year :D he did great job to explain it in 15 min.
It wasn't the Americas, but the discovery of maritime route to India, which royally fucked the Otoman embargo on Europe and tge control of trade flow through the middle east. Also the Italian city states like Venice who had deals with the ottomans began their sharp decline the following years after.
"There can be a middle ground between golden age and horrible collapse."
Spanish Empire: "There is?!"
Yeah Spain really had it hard and fast. Like from most of the New World + Spain itself + most of Italy and the Netherlands to Spain + Philippines and Cuba in a very short amount of time as if they were Alexander the Great/Genghis Khan. Taking a lot of land in a short time then suddenly collapsing into a small core territory.
Actually, in the Spanish case, it's fairly likely that they could have held on to everything for longer, much as the British did, if they had focused on actual economic development in the Americas. Instead, they primarily concerned themselves with the acquisition of gold and silver, causing hyperinflation and kicking off a centuries long tradition of fiscal and monetary mismanagement which continues to the present day.
I laughed unnecessarily hard at your comment, sir. +1
@@mrrodgers0
Exactly!
Though to be fair ironically the lack of many precious materials in North America kind of forced the people to build an independent economy.
Well, no. Spain was dominant in the late 1500s and early 1600s, a medium power (but still just as large an empire) up until the 1800s, and collapsed almost entirely in the early 1800s. Even then, Spain still had powerful enough a fleet, enough to challenge the British at Trafalgar, which went well. For the Brits.
The Ottomans, the not-at-all-sick man of Europa Universalis 4.
That’s what I was watching this for lol
The ottomans are fucking hard to beat
Hahaha custom nation go brrrr
@Arjan Singh damn son, i had to annex byzantium myself and then release them as a puppet and play as them just to conquer greece...
Then the venicians attacked
Yeah. Just go brrrr and ceddin deden everyone.
When Frederick II of Prussia was asked by a bavarian catholic, if he was allowed to live in Prussia and even spread his religion, he responded with: "All religions are equal and good, as long as it's followers are good people. And if muslims or hugenots come into our country, we shall build them mosques and churches."
Since day 1, Prussia was always a country of religious freedom.
From the Great Elector, who welcomed hugenots into his country, to the King of Soldiers, who rebuild an old barn into a mosque.
So it's no suprise that Prussia tried to keep positive relations with the Ottoman Empire.
Even Otto von Bismarck, the founding father of Germany, was a friend of the Ottoman Empire
(Quote: "The love between Turks and Germans is so old, that it will never break apart.").
Unlike all other european countries, who either wanted to take advantage of the "Sick man of Europe" condition or just didn't care, the germans wanted to help the Ottoman Empire, return to former glory and defend itself, from the french and british invaders.
In the late 19th century, Wilhelm II of Germany visited Istanbul, where he declared himself as the "Protector of all muslims".
In 1900, the germans gave the people of the Ottoman Empire a wonderful gift: the German Fountain (Which is located in Istanbul, by the way.).
Meant to showcase Germany's loyality towards the Ottoman Empire.
Since clean, free water was extremly rare in Istanbul, it was seen as an act of pure generousity by the locals.
In order to help the Ottoman Empire, fight off the Entente, the germans build a superfast railroad through the Ottoman Empire.
It ended up being extremly helpful in battle.
The german soldiers also called the ottomans "Waffenbrüder", which is a affactionate way to say war ally in Germany.
Despite the fall of both the German Empire and Ottoman Empire, both countries still tried to keep close ties during the 1920's.
For example: When the Turkish Republic was founded, Atatürk send most turkish exchange students to german universities.
The friendship between turks and prussians was also the reason why there was not only a peace treaty between Nazi Germany and the Turkish Republic, but also why turkish exchange students and tourists were treated pretty well in Nazi Germany.
In other words: Bismarck was right, not even the nazis were able to destroy the friendship between Germany and Turkey.
Nowadays, turks are the biggest ethnic minority in Germany and doner kebab is the most popular fast food in Germany.
I just want nobody to forget this part of history.
13 upvotes... your narrative is cool if nothing.
Otto(Man) Von Bismarck
Little Prussian beautifully put. I think the history is so ancient and the friendship so long standing. It won’t be spoken about anymore because people want to divide all our nations. The truth is there is a bloodline which binds certain countries and people and it always will.
"I'm going to jerk off on this video about the Ottoman Empire as if it were about the thing of which I am speaking."
I thought the exact same way! The friendship between Turks and Germans will hopefully never end!
“Ah, magnificent.”
Suleiman The Magnificent Suleiman was the dumbest sultan..
@@lanarakala That's why he made the ottoman empire so big...
Just History Actually he just used the wealth his father gained. He lost at Vienna, killed the promising and loved princes and made very bad deals with French and some other western kingdoms.
Mysterious Stranger that’s bacause he was a moron.
@@lanarakala Yes i guess you could say he was bad but he did conquer byzantium so that what gave his name
Your pronunciation is amazing. As a turkish speaking person, you may be the best foreigner at pronouncing Turkish names that I know of. Also love the great content
Yep
türk çünkü aq
I thought he was turkish, it's that good
not gonna lie, your perfect pronunciation threw me off at first. I'm really not used to hearing this good pronunciation from foreigners
Fun fact: Greeks after the fall of Constantinople still called themselves Romans until the early 1800's.
For real? Thats amazing
Patrick Jonas Yup. I guess you can say the Romans were really, well, nationalistic.
The Pontic Greek language is called by its native speakers Ρωμαίικα(Romeika) and in Turkish it's called Rumca. There is also the Greek minority in Constantinople that is not called Yunan minority, but the Rum minority.
So we can see that the use of the word "Roman" to describe the Greeks still persists to this day, in and out of Greece.
Fascinating! Thanks for the info guys
@@imlonelypleasehelp5443 The name Istanbul itself is of Greek origin.
*_"EXCEPT TURKEY, TURKEY MAKES A BRAND NEW TURKEY"_*
Bill wurtz reference
@@devoted_eater567 You could also call it a Bill Wurtz quote
Bill wurtz
seni ana arwad sfekjmgrsdrkl
Boerguy true
"You know what would be magnificent?" said suleiman wearing an onion hat "what if the ottoman empire was... really big?"
It was no doubt
And then it was
Bill wurtz
Onion hat? 😂😂
Through he later wore the French crown after the francis was captured during pavia and suleiman "diplomatically " released him.
@Alvi Syahri honestly now i cant unsee it
"What if the Empire was as big as my hat?"
And then it was.
Your pronunciation of Turkish words were very good. Im quite impressed👍
@@ezelbayraktar7456 you clearly don't care about English
I don't know Turkish but this sounds pretty convincing. It adds a lot when people try pronuncing foraign names right.
Ezel Bayraktar Greetong from Greece.
the fact that you even bothered to say this with the upvotes that you got says how much you (and the upvoters) care about the people who made this video. You just don't want them to get criticised, because the video was good.
In reality though it's just criticism. Your response is simply immature and unnecessary. If the Arabic was really trash, then it's trash. If it's not trash, then he's wrong, and there's no need to waste your time typing up an oxymoron comment.
*I WAS GONNA SAY THE SAME!!! I was like "Damn his "ı" sounds were nice!"*
sultan yildirim was also called thunderbolt because of how fast he could gather troops and get them to where they needed to go, he would show up weeks earlier than expected by the enemy
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
*sees this post*
*Spams the like button*
Why they changed it I can't say
*in bass* Some people just liked it better that way
Hey! That’s nobody’s business but the Turks!
It's Istanbul not constantinople.
It's Istanbul not constantinople.
Been a long time gone, Constantinople. Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks'.
I love how you include architecture/art into your history videos.
Remembering the Ottomans as "the sick man of Europe" is like remembering the Roman Empire as "that one empire that collapsed" or "those guys the Ottomans conquered".
2:35: I mean, if it's a choice between killing a few princes and risking a civil war, the former probably wastes fewer lives in the long run...
6:00: The Janissaries are one of the perfect examples of why not all slaves are equal, and why you shouldn't equivocate (say) African-on-African slavery with enslavement of Africans in the Americas. After all, being enslaved in the Sultan's personal guard was one of the few fast tracks to power available to lower classes. It still sucked, but it sucked less than many other historical examples of slavery.
9:35: I mean, if your imperial stuff has reached a peak, by definition you're in decline. Loophole! (But yeah, the _real_ decline didn't set in for a while.)
we should call them "the empire that took Crimea until Russia kicked them out"
I don't really know of anyone who refers to them as "the sick man of Europe" unless they are talking abut World War one and its build up (also take some issue with the suggestion that the term was implying that the rest of Europe was just waiting for them to die as several powers helped prop them up occasionally for the sake of stability). Though no one knew it then they arguably had competition for that title with Austria-Hungry (and that's not just with knowing how the war ended for them) as the war revealed just how much of a non power this formally great one had become.
Crimson Scourge Russia: kicking people out of Crimea since 1774
Since the very end of the 18th century that title was rather fitting to them, after they lost Crima they were on a constant decline, unable to really protect themselves anymore from russian expansion, while also losing the grip on the territory they formerly hold, at that point the empire was just falling apart piece by piece
Finally a youtuber that can spell the Turkish names correctly :P
@rvtrcr Cry more
@rvtrcr where are you from you illiterate poor kid
:D?
Sweetie u mean arabic names * Ottman or suleiman or whatsoever they all arabic names or what u can call Islamic names which comes from Arabic
Bro your turkish is amazing I was surprised
lol i thought he was turkish than he said he had a turkish roommate
@@esra9993 yes alper is a turkish name :D and im turkish too
Alp eR So was i
So...
How is that turkish crack? That cheese like things..
Correct me if im wrong
@@manolovaleza7936 not all of them
"Finally, I get to live out my life-long dream of becoming THE ULTIMATE HALL MONITOR"
- Ottomans in 1517
Wow! Im out of breath just listening, for some reason.
I took a course in university on the ottoman empire from 1800 to mid 1960s, and you covered that whole period in like less than a minute.
That makes me realize just how monumentally huge their story before that was.
You've made me realize just how vastly much more material there is for me to learn, but you've also inspired me to learn more. Thanks!
mid 1960's?
2500 years old civilization VS 500 years old ..The cultural origin of the Turks and the language of the Ottoman kings.👉PERSIA🤔🦁🌿🌹
Europe to ottoman empire: sick man
Byzantine Empire: "looks behind paranoid"
they gave the Byzantine's the plague.
Real history is unpleasant! *man
in14to17centry turkey ia powerful ottoman empire i
No europe and other countries compare ottoman empire
Sick in their last 50 years for hundreds of years they were the strongest european power and no one could beat them without alliances
Warner Bros existed at the time of the Ottomans, as a cool fact,
For real?
Also Jildjian brand drums that many rock and metal bands use today.
For a year they co existed
@Oussamatha lmao
And Nintendo
That moment. When you understand the meaning of Istanbul *mind-blowing*
I wonder if they adopted istamboul because literally all roads lead `into the city`?
IslamBoul
2500 years old civilization VS 500 years old ..The cultural origin of the Turks and the language of the Ottoman kings.👉PERSIA🤔🦁🌿🌹
@@amirr_79 Ancient nerd
@@amirr_79 source: trust me bruh
"...spend over two centuries doing the impossible. Sitting back and chilling out."
Ooooh, so that's why it's called an ottoman. *Sits back and puts feet up* Just Chilling
Ottoman is a type of furniture. A recliner I believe.
Actually, the type of furniture is a sort of backless couch that's often used as a footstool or... coffee table? Who'd use a glorified pillow with legs to hold beer and nachos?
If only this video was 2 seconds shorter
14:53
Ooooof if only
IF ONLY
That would have been awesome
*_BIG OOF_*
I don't get it
i lived in turkey and it is a great place the people are friendly the food is good and it has its own little charm to the place
rly?
@@bilakaykay no, hes just jk yk
No civil war in 600 years !! Damn gotta give credit to them ottomans though for that 👏👏
@Kurt Rustle Do you mean Cem Sultan thing? I don't think it was a big civil war like Ottoman Interregnum I hope its the correct name for "Fetret Devri") it was a much bigger compared to cem Sultan. Ottoman Interregnum lasted 11 years but Cem Sultanget on the throne on 27 May 1481 and lost a war on 20 June 1481 and after that, he just went to different countries and requested help but it didn't work (He was probably poisoned and his body didn't return to the country until 1499 -he died in 1495-)
ardra
@Kurt Rustle Jelali revolts?
When a new sultan was selected all his brothers were killed so that civil wars between brothers would not happen.
they had faith and unity
thats why they wont fight each other
a true muslim never fights his own brother
thats for shure
7:39 ah yes, the Onion hat
His brain so big...
It had to be contained...
Like that elephant brain meme...
Big brain
As far as I know, its his kafan, the cloth that is used wrap the body after death. This hat remarks the commitment of Sultan, he carries his last cloth meaning he is ready to die where he stands.
Your pronunciation is pretty good for someone not speaking the language..
"hey um sultan we got quite a bit of money!" Builds mosque " Hey sultan we really need to reform our military!" Builds 2 mosques
That’s exactly what erdoğan does today
yupp shit does shit
@@burak432 oh fuck off murdering innocents is not "war on terror"
@@arawn1061 Anandy siktirem seni qotaqbas. 😁I love Ottoman empire Turkey and Erdogan .
@@arawn1061 Sen malsyn qotaqbas.
Revelations IS highly underrated!
A damn fine ending for the Ezio trilogy, loved every minute. The flashbacks to the 2nd game had me in tears.
Dem feels bro
ikr
Yes yes yes!!! Revelations was soooo good!! It’s a crime that it’s not recognised more
also fuckin abbas man...
Sooo, basically Blue was excited the most about this video because he has a Mosque named after him? Did I miss anything else?
Technically speaking though "chilling and doing nothing" is the exact definition of stagnation. As far as empires are concerned you're either growing or you're in decline I think. Stagnation itself is either the start of one or the other and in cases like this history has shown it to end up being the latter.
@Random Person And stagnating while losing in expansionary wars is decline, right?
I mean yeah but it also carries the implication that it is slowly in decline. And it also gets applied in weird ways where people will insist that at times the Byzantine Empire wasn't stagnating despite never even getting close to the size of the Roman Empire, at most just reconquering a bit of land for a little while. I mean really throughout it's entire history the trend was one of decline but people will insist that it wasn't.
@@hedgehog3180 Well, the Byzantine Empire started as THE major player in the region and ended as a starving, besieged city with not even enough inhabitants to man the walls it was cowering behind. So was it in constant stagnation or decline throughout its thousand-year history? Hardly.
First of all, peace and stability is not the same as stagnation - during peacetime in the early half or so of its history, Constantinople and other towns in the Empire prospered. Trade made the city rich, technological superiority and infrastructure, massive fortifications and a strong military kept it safe. The Empire protected pilgrims to the "Holy Land", the Eastern Church helped influence religion throughout all of Europe (though perhaps not as much as patriarchs would have liked).
Wars for territory and influence were won and lost, there were strong and weak rulers, times of prosperity and depression but the Empire and its capital stood strong.
A somewhat steady decline only happened during the latter few centuries of its history. The technological edge diminished, the wealth was lost in large part to crusaders looting the city, Italian republics took over the trade and in the end, even the mighty Theodosian Walls fell to the Turkish invaders.
Sure, the Byzantine Empire never lived up to Roman greatness at the height of its power and an argument can be made that it was merely the last vestige of the declining Roman Empire. But to believe that an empire can exist for a thousand years in constant stagnation or decline is just silly.
Ya Boy Blue Not really. Dividing empires into the dichotomy of expansion and decline is dishonest.
Was gonna reply with something similar. Thank you for completing the task before I arrived. Indeed, societies are like organisms in that way: Either they grow in strength (though not always in size) & only become more powerful, or they age as corruption & decrepitude increase. Once a society is weak enough, it is prey for whatever society can come along & take it. _There is no such thing as a steady-state existence,_ not in nature nor in politics.
Say what you want about the Ottomans, but those dudes consistently had dope beards. As a man who possesses his own set of fabulous facial hair I can appreciate that!
I hate beards. They're coarse, they're scratchy, and if the owner is lucky, they get everywhere.
I used to be a beard. Now I merely have a beard.
@@TheFiresloth well the guy was speaking about men not you
I guess someone is not a fan of Star Wars.
AHMED FRHAN - I guess having a dick is just not enough these days. Well, I refuse to consider you a man unless you have at least one square cm more hair than me. Enjoy your life as a woman now.
This is such a fantastic video. You’re really good at explaining things in plane words.
I also really appreciate you clarifying things we might mistakenly assume. Like, I pictured the early ottoman empire’s businesses to be more like a free market of grass roots stores and services, but you clarified “no, that’s not how things always are. Their businesses were closely tied in with the Sultan and the government as a whole”. Something that a history buff might already assume, but us averagely educated people don’t even consciously question or think about.
You have definitely earned these views and while I’m not even that interested in history as a whole, I’ll be giving you a sub anyway.
Thanks so much for contributing to the high-quality educational video selection here on TH-cam.
Honestly, I hoped for Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to get at least a brief mentioning, but oh well, maybe one day.
Good video overal.
*ahem* THEN THE WINGED HUSSAR ARRIVED
@@patricksvarietycorner5700 we remember
In september
When the winged hussars arrived
The funny thing is Ottomans refused to officially recognize the partitions of Poland-Lithuania (or Lechistan, as they called it). They were kinda like "How dare you to erase our Worthy Opponent from the map?!". Ottoman Empire became the refuge for Polish freedom fighters/revolutionaries on several occasions. Most notable example being gen. Józef Bem.
Nah man, Ottomans had art.
All Hail Jan Sobieski!
So basically instead of "Ottoman decline" it should be called "Pax Ottomania"
How on earth did I not think of that.
Yes, pretty much yes.
Pax ottomanica*. They are the Imperio Ottomanicum in Latin
With all the rebellions and uprising it's hard to really compare it to the Pax Romana, which is standing for stability in the empire
@@OverlySarcasticProductions after that can you do a video on 9/11?
@@JasonDoe1000 Stability? Rome was constantly fighting intern conflicts and suffering from the effcet of the destruction of the regions of the empire, due to Rome using plunder tactics to make certian areas reliant to others like thhe silver mines, not to mention that many cities were desserted due to Romans rendering regions such as Tuscany useless for ecconomic gain and pretty much forced them to live in Rome, which is why it's still impoverished after these Centuries.
Can you do a video on the Dutch Republic? No reason except my little sister is studying in Amsterdam and its gotten me all interested in their history.
Better yet, Spanish Empire first, THEN the Dutch Republic.
@@vadimflaks7795 ooh my yes. And watch him cover the Hapsburgs with the same distaste he talked about the Ptolemies
No one cares about your sister...
Nah I'm just kidding, sounds pretty interesting, the Dutch Golden Age should be quite fascinating.
Ooooh, you can tie a bunch of Late Medieval-Rennaissance politics and economics into it!
We're one of those countries that have sort-of existed for a long time, but were usually busy infighting or having other people rule us* (and joining Belgium in ruling suprisingly large colonies in turn).
*Granted, we fell back into old habits around 1940, but everyone else was doing it too and we got swept up in the enthusiasm.
Speaking as a Dutchman, it's not that interesting. Some trade and genocide, what's new under the sun? There aren't that many cool stories in there, not until you get past Napoleon at least.
But i am curious where you're from, care to share?
“SUTAN the boats cant go on land we may loose”
(pushes up figurative glasses)
“then get the men AND HAVE THEM CARRY IT ON WHEELS”
and it worked
History can be so shocking sometimes.😂😂 . But you really can learn a lesson or 2 from something "historical".
"Mr Sultan, I don't feel so good" - that killed me. People in the office are looking at me funny for cracking up.
You’re the only comment I’ve seen referencing this... I’m surprised there aren’t more of them...
Tf your profile. Hope it's not you
I'm gonna be honest - it's October, and you didn't take up the opportunity to even *namedrop* The Son of the Dragon himself.
We expect this to be rectified before All Hallow's Eve.
Do not disappoint.
"First we divide the Ottomans, then China... hey Leopold of Belgium what are you doing in the Congo?" -European Imperialism in 1800s
They got the idea of invading Africa from watching the Ottomans ravage Eastern Europeans, who had no military power or ability to fight back.
Beautiful presentation and proper handling of Turkish words. Good job.
Fun fact: Miguel de Cervantes, the guy who wrote Don Quijote fought in the battle of Lepanto, and lost his left hand there
And got captured by the Ottomans when hes on the way back to Italy lol
He didn't lose his left hand per se. He "just" lost its mobility permanently.
how did he changed hands when fapping?
Guess he's all right now.
@@antidentite1481 It feels more loyal with one hand.
Man they literally changed Constantinople to Istanbul cause 🎶“People just liked it better that way”🎶.
Yeah we can see how better it is in these times😂, Turkey is just third world country 😂
Take me back to Constantinebal
No you can't go back to constantinople
Been a long time gone in Constantinople,
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Tuuuuurks!
😉👍🏼
Finally some other people who actually know about that song!
I love the excitement blue has whenever he talks about a not often discussed culture. It really helps when you want to get into a place
I am not remotely Turkish, but I spent 6 weeks there, and your pronunciation of Sultan makes me happy! (I've read it and pronounced it that way since my trip and meeting a Turkish woman named Sultana.)
Thanos saps
Ottoman Empire: Mr. Sulltan I dont feel so good!
Ottoman Empire will return in Avengers 4
Ömer_ 42 Plot twists the byzantine empire comes back
Kicking your feet up on a whole empire Blue?
Best part of this, I had my feet kicked up when this went up XD
Up on a...
Footstool, you could say.
I love the Turkish pronunciations, I used to get so much shit for correcting my history teachers😂
It astounds me that the same Ottoman Empire was present in both the Crusades and World War One.
No battle of Vienna? Most historians view that as the big turning point against the Ottomans, they tried to conquer Austria and the Europeans said no, with the largest cavalry charge in history.
There were TWO battles of Vienna, both of which were decisive losses for the Turks and curiously enough neither one is mentioned in this video! Suleiman the Magnificent failed to take Vienna after suffering heavy losses in 1529. During the subsequent withdrawal a shortage of supplies combined with horrible weather decimated his army. The Ottomans tried to spin it as a victory but the campaign was an unequivocal failure. Some historians believe the campaign had 'limited objectives' which did not include the seizure and conquest of Vienna, an absolutely ridiculous assertion in light of the scope of the operation and number of troops involved. Suleiman was going for total victory and failed spectacularly.
They're lightly skipped over "a thing at Vienna which didn't go anywhere" at 9:55. IIRC, Ottoman Endgame (Sean McMeekin) claims that this could be the setback that caused the Ottomans to begin turning away from science and technology and towards religion which, as Europe was on a strong rise, nerfed them.
They were just chilling out, you know what I mean? Cuz like as if and such ...like whatever or something. Peace out
First Vienna wasn't a serious lose but Second Vienna was the thing that made europans team up. Second Vienna was actualy going to be a victory but Kırım Khan II Murat Giray Khan betrayed because the leader of conquest wasn't going to loot the city but take it without demaging anything. but II Murat Giray Khan didn't agree with that. He was going to ambush Polish army on a bridge but he did nothing.
I suppose "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen" (1988) should not be considered an accurate portrayal of the battle at Vienna.
Great video, you got everything correctly and your pronunciation of Turkish is great! Although small correction:
Sykes-Picot agreement was a secret plan on how to divide the middle east. The actual treaty is the Treaty of Sevres which also included İzmir going to Greece and an Armenian state in eastern anatolia
One funny anecdote. Suleiman the Magnificent took his army, bypassed the Vienna (the curse of the Ottoman empire) and marched up to the middle of Germany(around Munich) looking for an army to fight. The problem was his arm had more than 100.000 troops and at that time no other nation had close to that numbers. So he waited there for a few weeks for someone to come. No one did.
In the end the Persians decided to attack the empire's eastern flank (as they wont to) and Suleiman took his army and returned back to Istanbul.
Kinda anticlimactic if you ask me.
Suleiman: WHERE ALL THE BITCHES AT? THEY TOO SCARED TO FIGHT ME? COME OUT LITTLE COWARDS
Basically what I like to imagine happened
That's exactly why we have thousands of castles and fortresses in germany. The ottomans were neither the first, nor the last unsuccessful invaders. I guess when every other decade a freaking new barbarian horde invades from the eurasian steppe, while the vikings are raiding up the rivers and the bloody french are stabbing in the back, while the Italians rebell once more, binding the emperor's army, people get used to simply waiting for autumn and winter instead of wasting lifes and resources fighting.
Nobody came out to fight?!? Suleiman besieged Vienna and failed to take it with heavy losses! He withdrew south and his army was ravaged by a shortage of supplies and bad weather. It was a spectacular failure.
Its like the last 10 minutes of an Age of Empires game when you are just sending this huge army around the map trying to find the last 2 villagers on the enemy team.
@@boahkeinbockmehr Germany also was the Holy Roman Empire, because of all of the squabbling small states each state that had the money would want their own castles where as if the HRE at that time was under more centralized rule there would likely be less castles I believe.
8:04 - It was easy for Suleiman the Magnificent to expand his empire cause he had Ezio Auditore aiding him.
True 😅
You mentioned that Istanbul didn't have an official name until 1928 and not immediately after the conquest makes me appreciate you!
Being from a country that was formerly under ottoman occupation i have to admit the strategies they were using to keep a hold of our territories was impressive (though a bit of a pain in the butt), at least here in Romania
To make it short they were sending foreign leaders (usually from greece and albania) -that wouldn't support a counyry they're not from anyways- to rule over as little territory as possible and not letting them in charge for more than 3 years to make sure they didnt consolidate their power
True, i'm also from a country that was formerly under ottoman occupation and the albanians were children from christian families, brainwashed into serving the empire and then being sent to other countries so they wouldn't have a chance switch side (although skanderbeg did trick them). And i agree, their strategies were good, but this video didn't do a very good job at being truthful, i don't really know the history of the eastern balkan but i'm assuming it wasn't any better than the western part, and the bad things they've done along with the many rebellions should've been mentioned
@@suluayran121 Says a muslim lol
@@notyourdad361 im not a muslim
"It absolutely *blue* me away" i love multi layered puns
"There was also something with Vienna"
AND THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
Akuma Ninja Pretty sure they didn’t
The hussars arrived and Selim Giray Khan sent them back lmao.
Lol and Ottomans got recked in WW1
And Russians kicked ottoman's out of Europe finally never to be rise again!
@@TheConservativeKnight6809 *_Haha. Stay salty. You got booted from vietnam and even now the united states is a complete joke. You'll fall and let china take over. I hope coronavirus fucks america._*
> Early modern Europeans referred to them as "Sick man of Europe"
Hooold on right there. "Early modernity" is 1650 tops, and Ottomans weren't called that for at least for 2 hundred years more.
Also: props on the timing, yeah
Who else is here before watching Rise of empires: Ottoman on Netflix?
Same
I just came after It!
As a Turkish citizen I have but until 3rd episode. It has many historical errors that I couldn't bear to watch it.
One example, the Grand vizier whips child Mehmed as a punishment, which is unthinkable and impossible at the time! He would have been beheaded at the spot.
@FattyFludders it is biased and inaccurate. Even though I have an open mind and enjoy objectivity, I couldn't watch this one.
@@lestat8656 just watch ertugurl
Blu: States the video is 14 minutes and 53 seconds long for a meme
Also Blu: Makes the video 14 minutes and 54 seconds long
55 now
Finally, I can be here using this, yeayyy. This is the first video from OSP that made me fall in love to the channel and explore more. Leann said that Blue here, you're so inspiring Maaan! I wish I can be his student, lol. Cheers OSP, best of luck, keep providing us with great content. 🍻😎
Ottomans conquered Island? Is this CK2 or what is going on here?
TlsGrz All we need now is lots of incest! Hehehe
History is suprisingly full of those!
Did you know Sicily was owned by Vikings for a while?
"Conquered" is a bit of a strong word. They came and raided a bit, took some slaves, and then promptly left.
While I agree that conquered is too strong, they raided more than one island there.
They raided 3 villages ( and tried to raid one more but failed ), a ship and captured 400-800 people ( maybe under 400 according to some sources, probably closer to the lower end of that range, the source saying 800 seems less credible ) which was actually around one percent of the population of Iceland at that point (60k).
The whole affair lasted around a month, which is not very long but still quite some time.
Normans. not Vikings. They were more French then Scandinavian.
So, is it just me, or are any other Turks living in America always thrilled when someone talks about Turkey or you meet someone else who’s Turkish? I feel like an excited little kid
Same! It always feels new to meet other Turks, but I live in germany :D
@@sabki4468 nice to meet you
Lol im turkish and i live in turkey but when i meet someone turkish online i feel same
While not remotely Turkish myself, I can understand the feeling. I'm glad when I meet anyone who plays the same games I do, or people who used to live anywhere near Kansas.
thats how it is for those hailing from non-white lands usually. I am somali and I love to hear people learning about my country.
This is very accurate and objective, well done.
I also appreciate the work done on the prononciation of Turkish words, that part was a blast xD.
To avoid confusion and honor the work Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has done, I think it would've been better to add a map that shows the final stage of the empire, which is where WW1 ended; and Republic of Turkey wasn't founded. The Ottoman Empire reduces down to be a large city in the middle of Anatolia with no shoreline or major city control.
12:30 in the 1850s there was the Crimean War, wherein the Ottomans, France, and Britain teamed up to check Russian aggression but despite being on the winning team the Ottomans lost a lot of authority in the Black Sea and Romania took steps towards independence. It was the first time the industrial revolution’s new weapons were tried out by European powers against each other and one battle was so brutal that the site was visited by a guy who was inspired to found the International Red Cross.
I dunno, I think the idea of "stagnation" is fitting if they fall behind technologically and won't do administrative and cultural reforms. A vibrant empire in a decent plateau, "chilling" and content with not continuing to take over, needs to continue to reform to remain vibrant. The stagnation wasn't the lack of continued territorial growth, but the lack of reforms until it was kinda too late. Anyway, I see the Ottomans referred to as the "sick old man of Europe" far more in the 19th century, when the problems from that stagnation really came to a head, as you noted. Before then, the Ottomans were a major power, and probably considered the big threat to Europe at large until the Battle of Vienna in 1683 (certainly not seen as a sick pushover at least until then), which was the last attempt of the Ottomans to push that far west... and they almost took Vienna, but in the aftermath lost a bunch of territory in Europe. I think that's when they start to really be looked down on, but I still think most of the stagnation is under the surface, but very real. So I think "stagnation" is a good word.
In his "chilling" phase the Ottomans weren't particularly behind the rest of Europe in any meaningful way. Its really about the French Revolution/Napoleonic Wars that the Ottoman really start to lag behind.
the trade route is conquered by ottoman meanwhile the europe need the alternative route in america. ottoman has everything. russia fight many war against ottoman because the trade route to black sea is blocked by the ottoman. thats why crimea and constantiople is the objective of russian from its very beginning. ottoman is the victim of his success.
I'm Romanian and back when I was little I once saw at the central park in my city this guy making the exact same kind of paintings shown in the video. I had completely forgotten about it until this video. Thanks, Blue, for reminding me. Thanks Turkish people for creating such amazing kinds of art :)
You did not mentioned about battle of Vienna which was quite important.
Fun fact is as well that when Poland has gone from the map (partitions of Poland), the Ottoman Empire was one of only two countries in the world that refused to accept the partitions, (the other being the Persian Empire), and reserved a place in its diplomatic corps for an Ambassador of Lehistan (Poland). Despite the fact that they had fought against each other years earlier.
I don't think the Siege of Vienna was quite as important as the Battle of Lepanto, which Blue did not do justice in this video at all, as it was the Ottomans' defeat at Lepanto that permanantly trapped them in the increasingly insignificant Eastern Mediterranean and locked them out of the global trade network that would contribute to their decline and collapse.
Every time I start a new Assassin's Creed game I watch one of Blue's videos on the time period and country that it takes place in to create a historical context of what's happening. Great videos, and great games.
I was expecting a lot of Ottoman furniture joke. I am somewhat disappointed
There was one!
Watch the last episode on the Ottomans
It is pretty unfair to call the empire in decline when it lasted in relative stability for so long, it's like they consider an empire failing the moment they stop conquering everything.
I think that you didn't mention interval fighting and massive bureaucracy as the reason of the decline. On one occasion, janissaries killed the newly appointed sultan because he didn't have the money to pay them. Also, in the early days of the empire, spahis (the nobles) earned the land through service to the state instead of inheriting it, which led then to be more loyal.
Askar Akayev Real question, not being a smartass... I can’t remember where I read it, but can you point me to something that references some ppl’s opinions (at the time) that the decline of the Ottoman Empire was also facilitated by a lack of a strong sultan due to factional fighting between the kadins (wives or mothers of the sultans’ sons) becoming more powerful, the janissaries, and the white and black eunuchs. Where in previous centuries the sultans were strong leaders with ALSO a strong bureaucracy in place to handle running the empire while the sultan was on campaign, latter sultans became more dependent on others and were weaker leaders all around. The view at the time (within the empire itself) was that the downfall of the empire was caused by the influence of the kadins and the sultan valideh (sultans mother). The time honored tradition of blaming everything on those pesky women that don’t know their place and try to involve themselves in things (like politics) that they have no business in! (Insert major eye rolls there, lmao!)....
Can anyone tell me if this is all true?
I just watched this. Your pronunciations were amazing. I feel proud because I watch you so much XD
Video's 14:55 long. Seriously guys, two seconds shorter and you would've hit poetic gold
You said it already but it's wild that people said that the ottoman was struggling? All other empires have a crash and burn ending meanwhile they just said "hey guys name change"
To be fair, within a century they were down to their central holdings in Anatolia. I'd call that a pretty good crash and burn.
But unlike most empires, they held on to those, so you're probably right anyway :P
Certainly much better than Alexander (and everyone always wants to one-up him, so congrats to Turkey for achieving that!)
The British Empire didn't crash and burn, it was gracefully let go.
Which I guess depending on your view could be a much worse crash and burn than losing it in horrible wars, but most people don't have that view anymore
And then they commited genocide for the lulz...
+David Bowe... Britain didn’t fall gracefully. It realized it was ailing, with India and South Africa, and when Egypt beat off them and France at the same time they realized that they were going to fall slowly over the next century. They decided to drop everything as fast as possible so that they might be able to get some goodwill from the Americans, as the Cold War was just beginning.
That’s my perception anyway.
+Dashiell Is there anything more graceful that a state can do than giving up an empire rather than fight the desire for freedom and self determination? Every empire knew it was ailing, but it's not like Britan couldn't keep their empire if they really wanted. India is a fucking joke of a geographical location that was completely incapable of doing anything for itself, as shown by the hundreds of years of british rule after basically no fighting
If you want to characterize the entire nation as just taking a pragmatic choice and playing off America's goodwill rather than having any of its own, fine, but even then it's still a lot more graceful than the rest of europe, not even mentioning asian or african empires. Letting people have self-determination without a fight is good no matter how you slice it
Of course then the EU happened lel
The Ottoman Empire being "the sick man of Europe" was appropriate during 1870-1920, because that WAS when it was just sort of shrinking. But remembering it as the sick man isn't really appropriate considering a LOT of nations have collapsed in a similar fashion. Heck, look at the Roman Empire at the beginning of the video. Sick for a THOUSAND years.
@Mysterious Stranger Shut the fuck up sausage gobbling European
sick of conquering everyone ;D heeeeey!
I wouldn't call the Roman Empire under Justinian "sick".
Every Big empire will eventually fall, the question is, what possitive thing did they leave for the World?
@Mysterious Stranger if Rome was never sick, where is it now?
I'm really sad you didn't elaborate on the whole Vienna business but oh well you can't have everything, can you. Amazing video! I loved it
You haven‘t talked about the first siege of Vienna or the second
Were is Austria :(
The latter is ecspecialy important as it more or less pinpoints the moment the empire goes into decline with the Habsburg and suddenly also the russians pushing them back
The first siege of Vienna was irrelevant stop making everything about you.
@@Kunumbah1 yes the first siege was so irrelevant that it only stopped ottoman expansion into europe for about 100 years but hey that is completely irelevant right?
eluvian camaris Bullshit there was no strategic gain from attacking Vienna. It was a wealthy city yes, but it was surrounded by hostile European powers on every single side and had few natural defenses. You’re making such a huge fuss about “stopping Ottoman expansion into Europe” but have you ever considered that the true cause for decreased Ottoman expansion into Europe could be because I don’t know the Ottomans were focused more on the Mediterranean?
Sir Devil if vienna has no strategic gains, why did the ottomans try to get it twice, for the lols or shits and giggles?
The runtime of your video is almost 14 minutes and 53 seconds.
The sultan is pleased.
I come to this channel because armchair historian recommended me about him, good job, your video is very interesting
i honestly didnt understand a thing in this video cuz i was too busy admiring how enthusiastic the speaker is
If anyone wants to know why it started going bad immediately after Suleiman the Magnificent (sorry for my spelling), he kinda screwed over his own succession…
Long story short his most capable successor was not born to the woman he actually loved so he killed him. Extra Credits has a more in-depth version, but take the details with a grain of salt
Ayy another EC fan.
Is that a joke? In this modern age who doesn't know what is the true history? I feel sorry for you.
Riadul Kabir Murad I feel sorry for you then, friend, for being the only human alive born with an encyclopedic knowledge of the entirety of human history, unaffected by propaganda, destruction of historical records, people not thinking something was important and forgetting to write it down, and the passage of time.
Having that much knowledge must make it so hard to learn anything else. Like manners
I agree with Jarod Liberty, but is it just me or EC is kinda getting more childish-friendly and does not want to go into a brutal parts of history and so on?
Тайши Кислицын They are trying to keep it so that they can still be shown in schools, but if something is too gruesome to keep it in/had to be toned down, they would cover it in “Lies”
That feeling when Blue hates the Mongols but loves the Ottomans. **Hmm**
Mongols ain't around, but we're still dealing with regressive muslims. Gotta watch what you say, or else.
Can i just mention that your pronunciation is on point , great job !
o n i o n h a t
"Except for turkey turkey makes a brand new turkey"
I got to be honest I really liked your overview of the Ottoman Empire. Thank you!
I think they didn't capture Iceland, But a ships captain originally from the Netherlands who converted to islam and became a pirate in the Morocco coastal region, raided Iceland for slaves.
Icelandic natives were likely sold into slavery so some modern Turks likely have Icelandic ancestors
They did raised Ottoman flag and captured the island but they didn't stay there for long. Even if they did they wouldn't be able to hold on to it
****ignored that sole focus on the empire for 100s if years was to take Vienna, and that when they failed just before 1700, that was the ‘high water mark’ of the empire and signaled the start of the decline.....***
thanks for helping a bro with an unimaginable amount of read-prep for a single lecture