"Miles Morales is NOT Spider Man"

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    “Miles Morales is not Spider-Man” It’s a phrase I see a lot, especially when a new Miles related product is coming around the corner. The more accurate point is that Miles is not their Spider-Man. Some feel that Miles will always be second to Peter, and that he is not Spider-Man, but Miles Morales, who just so happens to have the same powers as Spider-Man. Since this discussion is currently ongoing and likely to continue through to the release of Spider-Man 2, I wanted to give my thoughts on this topic and add to the discussion, hopefully in a meaningful way. This will be an opinion piece more than anything so don’t be afraid to drop your own two cents below. I’ll also be talking about mild spoilers from Spider-Man 2018, Spider-Man Miles Morales, and Into The Spider-Verse. I also can’t show many clips from the films because there is a solid chance that it will be copyrighted so I’ll do my best to match the on screen visuals to what I’m saying.
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    So. I want to begin by talking about the fundamental differences between Peter and Miles, as far as modern interpretations go. Aside from the most obvious... height, the two come from different cultural backgrounds with different support systems. Peter comes from an environment where he, despite his intelligence, is always struggling to get by, no doubt because of his other responsibilities, and in many instances, Peter is shown to do this alone. Mary Jane is often the most he gets as far as a support system goes, but Miles has most of his family backing him up as well as most of Harlem, which leads into another fundamental difference, their roles as heroes.
    Peter over the last two decades has become something of a heavy hitter in mainstream media. Not just in popularity but in the scope of his tasks. Many of his latest outings see him dealing not with the fate of his friends, family, or even New York, but the world, the universe, and the multiverse. He may not be an Avenger, but his media is always chasing an Avengers level threat. Hell, Peter's latest outing saw him taking down the sinister six, and granted that could be more of a reflection of Insomniac's lofty ambitions, but the point remains that Peter is so focused on the greater world, that we lose touch with his humble roots. This evolution of the character isn’t a bad thing, but it’s a blindspot that functionally, Miles gets to cover. Miles is Harlem's Spider-Man. He fills the gap for a friendly neighborhood hero. But it isn’t as simple as Miles covering small time tasks, it’s about Miles being in touch with the community. He literally rescues cats, and in return the people help him out. Peter has these benefits too, but again, his adversaries often make him lose sight of the little guy. This is of course more in reference to the Insomniac games, but even in other stories, like Miles and Peter in Into The Spider-Verse, the dynamic shows up again.
    Who is Spiderman? Who is not Spider-Man? Is Miles Spider-Man? Miles Morales is a new character, exploding in popularity since his recent film and video game introductions in Spiderman Miles Morales for the PS4 the Spider-Man Miles Morales PS5 port, Into the Spiderverse, Across the spider verse, and with that, there has been a rise in the notion that Miles Morales is Not Spider-Man. In my opinion, if Miles Morales is Not Spiderman, then Peter Parker in Spiderman 2, Spiderman 3, The Amazing Spider-Man, and even Gwen Stacy is not Spider-Man either. I intend to give my own thought on if miles morales spiderman. What do you think; Is miles spiderman?
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  • @ThatBoyAqua
    @ThatBoyAqua  ปีที่แล้ว +71

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      @@tonedpeter have we seriously not moved past making fun of youtubers for getting the bag they gotta eat to man

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    • @ThaBotmon
      @ThaBotmon ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @tenn4127
      @tenn4127 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @shadowstrike234
    @shadowstrike234 ปีที่แล้ว +3506

    Smart of you to put quotation marks around the title. You were about 2.3 seconds away from your biggest canon event yet

    • @EnbyNomad
      @EnbyNomad ปีที่แล้ว +108

      I was legit about to unsubscribe until I saw the "?"

    • @raven75257
      @raven75257 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Imagine unsubscribing just because TH-camr's opinion is different from yours, lmao

    • @mankdemes8887
      @mankdemes8887 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      @@raven75257why is that wild or odd at all lol?

    • @rappakalja5295
      @rappakalja5295 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      ​@@raven75257As if you have never done that. Don't act so high and mighty lmao.

    • @captainziggy82
      @captainziggy82 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lmao fax tho

  • @sparrow248
    @sparrow248 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    "Its not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me"
    -spider man begins

    • @Nathan.007
      @Nathan.007 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      😂

    • @treznopresto4878
      @treznopresto4878 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That sounds like Batman quote, not Spider-Man

    • @gtoyadhatagyab8013
      @gtoyadhatagyab8013 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      ​@@treznopresto4878🤦

    • @treznopresto4878
      @treznopresto4878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gtoyadhatagyab8013 th-cam.com/video/WW1a_cNKapY/w-d-xo.html
      Uhhhh...
      But maybe, both movies have the same quote? Dunno much.
      Edit: Oh, fuck! It took me 2 months to realize the goddamn joke. Sorry, guys!

    • @Cz82
      @Cz82 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Spider-Man: "Let her go"
      Green Goblin: "very poor choice of words"
      The Spider Knight

  • @kdubbss0583
    @kdubbss0583 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’ll leave this quote from Stan Lee here:
    “You know one of the greatest things about Spiderman’s outfit, his costume? He is completely covered. So any kid could imagine he’s Spiderman, because no color of his skin shows. He could be black under that, he could be red, he could be yellow, he could belong to any race. And that wasn’t done purposefully, it was done accidentally, but I think it was the best thing we did - making him so that he could be anybody under that costume.”
    Makes all this crazy hate towards someone else being Spider-Man kinda puts it in perspective

    • @Dantexshadows
      @Dantexshadows 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know this comment is old but, it really shows that the people complaining about Miles wasn't paying any attention to Spider-Man's origin stories or mythos at all.

    • @Christian-zt9uq
      @Christian-zt9uq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DantexshadowsBc that little group of racists don't know anything about Spider-Man, it's useless asking them common sense and that they use their brains.

  • @Genyuine
    @Genyuine ปีที่แล้ว +805

    The fact that what you explained was essentially a plot point in the mile morales game and people still dont get it is hysterical

    • @tommyvasquez2708
      @tommyvasquez2708 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      and the spider-verse movies as well

    • @thatguuuuuuuy560
      @thatguuuuuuuy560 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Nostalgia is a crazy drug after all

    • @AusSP
      @AusSP ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Gamfluent A lot of the Spider-Men work because they're the only Spider-Man of their own timeline. That's how Miles became Spider-Man - Spider-Man of the Ultimate series. Failing to re-brand him when they integrated him into the 616 timeline was a mistake.

    • @Alexander_Kale
      @Alexander_Kale ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Chicken and the egg, mate. WHY has it been made into a story point in those? BECAUSE people keep bringing it up. You are not making a point FOR Miles. You are illustrating WHY the claim that he IS Spider Man keeps being rejected.

    • @pillpaxxton5252
      @pillpaxxton5252 ปีที่แล้ว

      "I am....spider-man"

  • @BobtheX
    @BobtheX ปีที่แล้ว +974

    Whenever I see people arguing about "Miles Morales is NOT Spider Man" all I can think is, Do you think Peter Parker would agree with you? EVERY interpretation of Peter Parker would welcome Miles with open arms. The biggest tragedy of the Ultimate Comics was the fact that Pete died before he could be a big brother to Miles.

    • @emilioblack5633
      @emilioblack5633 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah he came back and was kind of an asshole

    • @point_blank6944
      @point_blank6944 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      That’s a shitty argument and very similar to the IHE defense of the SW sequel trilogy of Luke wouldn’t have wanted fans to act this way. I like miles but he will never be Spider-Man, you could even argue that Peter Parker isn’t Spider-Man but the mask that he wears(like Superman).

    • @point_blank6944
      @point_blank6944 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I want to add that the movie iterations weren’t Spider-Man either(tho Andrew Garfield got sorta close). Gwen, miles, Miguel, Toby, Andrew, and Tom are all spider-men but none are Spider-Man.

    • @chamchop6609
      @chamchop6609 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      @@point_blank6944 what are you waffling about?

    • @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
      @leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @BobtheX Ultimate Spider-Man came back from the dead and literally said he didn't approve of Miles stealing his identity until the end

  • @filipepio4389
    @filipepio4389 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    Stan Lee once said his favourite thing about Spider-Man is that anyone could be under that mask

    • @jbstudios3000
      @jbstudios3000 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      He didn’t say that. He said any kid could imagine they’re Spider-Man. And the Spider-Man he was talking about was Peter. So all he was saying was Peter Parker is for all kids. Not just one group.

    • @mateoreyes6921
      @mateoreyes6921 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Because that way anyone could feel inspired to be like him, but not that anyone can replace him
      If Stan Lee had created Miles, he would have made him his own character.

    • @jbstudios3000
      @jbstudios3000 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@mateoreyes6921 that’s 100% correct.

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mateoreyes6921Miles honoring the legacy of Spider-Man is an amazing thing. It’s great that it happened in the comics and I’m happy that it’s still going on now.

    • @mateoreyes6921
      @mateoreyes6921 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@windghost2 I would rather have Miguel O'hara or Mayday Parker to honor the legacy of Spiderman

  • @broadxpress2690
    @broadxpress2690 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Y’all saw how happy Peter was at the end of the first PS4 game when Miles revealed himself and he could reveal himself as well? Y’all saw how Earth-1610’s Peter in the first Spider-Verse was willing to help him, even said “Stick around and I can show you the ropes”? Be like that. It’s not a competition of “who’s Spider-Man” to you, because truth be told, like mentioned many times before, anyone can wear the mask. Sticking to Peter (pun unintended) is just a mindset that has to grow up. I say all of this while Spider-Man’s prob my favorite fictional character and Peter’s the one who I’m most familiar with.

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I agree with this 100%

    • @jjbizzare96
      @jjbizzare96 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Fax all around

    • @crowfather0249
      @crowfather0249 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@GamfluentJust because you keep repeating this on every comment doesn't make it any less untrue.

    • @milesmorales-intothespider9861
      @milesmorales-intothespider9861 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shockin' right.

    • @crowfather0249
      @crowfather0249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gamfluent Why would they when the original comment wasn't smart to begin with?

  • @SeaSurf74
    @SeaSurf74 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    The entire point of the *SPIDER-VERSE* movies and comics is that they’re *all* Spider-Man, like that’s literally the premise.

    • @treydan
      @treydan ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But they all have their own names. Spider Noir, spider girl, spider man 2099, etc. Miles needs his own name imo.

    • @SeaSurf74
      @SeaSurf74 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@treydan That would be cool I think, even Miguel is differentiated by there not being a Peter in 2099. I always like when Spiders get their own titles and stuff, it just feels more creative.

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@treydan no they don't, we refer to noir and miguel out of the universe as spider man noir and spider man 2099 in order to specify what spider man we are talking about similar to how we call gwen's spider woman "spider gwen", noir being called spider man noir in universe would be like a "we are on year X before christ" "who the hell is christ" joke

    • @r.k845
      @r.k845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mobgabriel1767And just calling miles Spider-Man is dumb too. There are two Spider-Man in his universe and people would give them different names to differentiate them.

    • @FOAB-Carlos
      @FOAB-Carlos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      calling miles morales spiderman is stupid, and confusing, because it makes you thinks, "which one"? 😂
      Miles morales is a spider men, but he's not THE SPIDERMAN, enough said, this is why people like to call wally west, wally west.

  • @Skywalker-lz5qj
    @Skywalker-lz5qj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My issue is that in something like insomniac miles is they make him better at literally everything than peter and it makes it feel like he just exists to be a tokenized Spiderman replacing the white dude. like lets have peter train him up a bit instead of having him immediately be better against peters villains, better at traversal, better at stealth, stronger, faster, a better hero, more in touch with the community, doing something with martin Li that for some reason the game acts like peter never could do anything like that, beating peter up while he has the symbiote and being a better Spiderman to the point that everyone in game is saying how peter should retire.

    • @WatchOutForSpidersMan
      @WatchOutForSpidersMan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How did they make him better at everything? What?

    • @Skywalker-lz5qj
      @Skywalker-lz5qj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WatchOutForSpidersMan Well theres a 100 word comment there. Perhaps if you read it you'll find an explanation.

    • @WatchOutForSpidersMan
      @WatchOutForSpidersMan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Skywalker-lz5qj For Martin li, Miles is better then Peter at dealing with his mental health. Miles has so many people to turn to when things get hard, therefore it’s not as big a challenge. With the symbiote, there was no way Peter was winning that, the symbiote was holding him down. First of all there was a giant bell, second of all miles electricity is a weakness for symbiotes, third of all, Peter was also fighting the symbiote to get it off him, fourth of all he just fought kraven seconds before. Pete was not winning that and it’s not his fault. Please provide more examples.

    • @purevessel4506
      @purevessel4506 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My guy no one in the game was saying Peter should retire. They just said he should take a break. Why do yall have such a problem with Pete taking a break in Far From Home and Spider-Man 2(Insomniac) but then glaze Raimi’s Spider-Man 2 when it basically had Peter almost retire

  • @fluffernal
    @fluffernal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Anyone can wear the mask - it’s how you wear it that matters.

  • @PaladinJackal
    @PaladinJackal ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Peter is *THE* Spider-Man. Miles is *A* Spider-Man.
    Peter Parker is just so iconic that there will never be any other Spider-Men who are as much Spider-Man as him. Goes for Miguel too or anyone. Like Superman and his son also being called Superman. Or Batman etc. Hal Jordon and Jon Stewart are both Green Lantern totally equally. I don't see either as THE Green Lantern. Same with Dick Grayson and Tim Drake as Robins. But Peter Parker, Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent are all THE Spider-Man, Batman and Superman.

    • @Justzay115
      @Justzay115 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think that the issue is that people get so hung up on the “tradition” behind spider-man. The fact that Peter has been in narrative purgatory in most modern media(especially the comics) is a direct consequence of this. People get so caught up in the decades of history surrounding Spider-Man, so caught up in the nostalgia that they actually stifle the character. People are so attached to what they know as Peter Parker that they can’t accept any meaningful character progression. Remaining stubborn and fighting change only hurts our enjoyment of spider-man stories because there’s only so much Peter Parker can do. Miles is spider-man, so is Peter, so is Gwen, and so is Miguel. One may have more attention and history but that does not make the others any less valid.

    • @PaladinJackal
      @PaladinJackal ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Justzay115 I don't see anyone like that ever. Marvel is like that. The fans not so much

    • @noahisuku5338
      @noahisuku5338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Miles’ popularity among other comic book variants is unrivaled. It’s not the same as the robins or super man’s son. It would be surprising if this generation and the next view miles as THE spider-man. Peter might be THE spider-man but to me, miles is.

    • @PaladinJackal
      @PaladinJackal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@noahisuku5338 Not at all. The Robins example which you misunderstood are all equal. Same with the Lanterns. Miles will never be as big as Peter sorry, it doesn't matter if you like Miles more or not

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Peter Parker is Spider-Man.
      Miles Morales is Spider-Man.
      There is no *THE* Spider-Man. Since Peter just calls himself Spider-Man.
      And I seriously doubt that there will never a Spider-Man as Iconic as Peter, Miles has only been around for 12-13 years and he’s literally the second well known Spider-Man asides from Peter, around the world and his popularity is literally surpassing Peter’s in some cases. And a lot of people love Miles are relate to him just as much if not more so than Peter because of his origins and drama that surrounds him as Spider-Man.
      No other Spider-Man character gets a lot of heat like Miles does and there’s a big reason for that.

  • @daveyjoneslocker4703
    @daveyjoneslocker4703 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I do tend to be one of the more “gatekeepy” types of fans because I see how atrociously Hollywood and the comics industry treats important legacies and stories. But I have never understood the rejection of Miles. We have a long running tradition of legacy superheroes passing on the mantle and alternate and equal sidekicks or counterparts joining them. Miles is completely worthy of Spiderman. We all know who the OG is, there’s not reason to reject the new guard though.

    • @subjectnivleis7572
      @subjectnivleis7572 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      cause of how he was introduced was no different than the clone saga levels of bad writing yet when people called it out they pull the race card to shield from criticism spiderverse made him more likable

    • @joshgrant6873
      @joshgrant6873 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @Studentofthegame187I love Miles as a character. The only thing I don’t like about him being Spider-Man is that two different heroes being active in the same area and both called “Spider-Man” is weird and confusing. I have absolutely no issues with the torch being passed and Miles taking on the name Spider-Man after Peter has moved on for whatever reason. I just think that while they’re both active, one of them (doesn’t matter which) should go by a different name just for the sake of clarity.

    • @valletas
      @valletas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My problem with it is how there are 2 heroes called spiderman going around
      Before you say i always had the same problem with wally when he returned to continuity and suddenly there were 2 speedsters called flash running around
      When nightwing got the mantle he acted as batman until the moment bruce returned with lead him to go back to being nightwing
      But even that is now weird because we have 2 batmans bruce wayne and jace hall

    • @hypersonic4562
      @hypersonic4562 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshgrant6873 I understand your concern, this is a very valid opinion

    • @joshgrant6873
      @joshgrant6873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @chandllerburse737 They have, and I didn't like that either.

  • @mugz_26
    @mugz_26 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Miles, Miguel, Gwen etc etc are all Spider-Man but Peter Parker is THE SPIDER-MAN. The original who set the standard of what it is to be Spider-man.

  • @panthergawwwddd5887
    @panthergawwwddd5887 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Videos like this are why you’re one of my favorite TH-camrs. Peter, Miles, Gwen, whoever are all Spider People. Peter will always be the definitive Spider-Man doesn’t meant that others can’t hold the title and fight for what Spidey stands for. Excellent work as always!

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico ปีที่แล้ว +13

      but why does Miles need to have Peter's nickname? Why can't he have his own like the rest of Spider-ppl? Your argument is a circular one.

    • @KeDe1606
      @KeDe1606 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Yarblocosifiliticowhy *can‘t* he have the same nickname as Peter? Both from a canonical and a logical POV

    • @Mr.Silence.
      @Mr.Silence. ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Yarblocosifiliticobecause he’s Spider-Man

    • @CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
      @CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@brianw8834Spider-Man is a mantel

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@KeDe1606 He can, but it's absurd. Kinda like if some parents named their children exactly the same. Just... why?
      The only good reason is if Miles is supposed to replace Peter. Otherwise, it makes no sense to have them share the name. It's like if Nightwing or Red Hood were 'Batman' too.

  • @theraymunator
    @theraymunator 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent reflection, thank you for helping me remember why I love Spider-Man so much. That last part where the Danny Elfman responsibility leitmotif was playing over your final words legit made me tear up a bit.

  • @RacingSnails64
    @RacingSnails64 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    As I've said before: Miles is not the ORIGINAL Spiderman (ie, Peter Parker) but he IS undoubtedly a bearer of the mantle.
    It's the difference between Dick Grayson and Tim Drake as Robin. We know who the original Robin is, when you say "Robin" people probably think of the original, I even personally prefer one over the other, but they both *are* Robin.
    Superhero semantics :/

    • @AusSP
      @AusSP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except that's not true. When one is Robin, the other is Nightwing, or Red Robin. They both *were* Robin. We can accept either one as Robin. They aren't any more, they've moved past it. We would have issues if they both were Robin at the same time.
      Miles is the same issue. In the 2017 animation, he had to be Spider-Man II. In the 2021 animation, he's Spin.

    • @Quenterro.
      @Quenterro. ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AusSPNightwing is way cooler than Robin

    • @noahisuku5338
      @noahisuku5338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What exactly does this change. “Miles is not the ORIGINAL Spiderman”. Miles is not Peter Parker. But of course miles is not Peter Parker, Peter Parker is Peter Parker. You just wanted to take something away from him.

    • @Xeiruxx
      @Xeiruxx หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noahisuku5338 Because he isn't the original Spider-Man, nor did he ever have that title to begin with.

  • @d.w.9485
    @d.w.9485 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I think the confusion comes from some versions of miles being with a peter. Like miles is spiderman in his own universe, but when they chose to make shows or games where he has a peter that already exist, it just becomes confusing. Because how do you address miles if the spiderman name is taken already. I know they tried to call him kid arachnid or spin, but that's just so stupid. Let miles be alone in his own world so that he can be spiderman.

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah i don’t mind the spin nickname

    • @ultrabusterninja9424
      @ultrabusterninja9424 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Just name him ‘Arachnid’ and give him a new costume. Then refuse to elaborate and leave

    • @jbstudios3000
      @jbstudios3000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His name should be Shadow-Spider.

    • @MRSHREKJR
      @MRSHREKJR ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@ultrabusterninja9424Exactly, I've always liked the named Arachnid for Miles

    • @KeDe1606
      @KeDe1606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ultrabusterninja9424biology lessons in that universe would be hella confusing

  • @blakepottebaum8365
    @blakepottebaum8365 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    With the release of the Spider-Verse movies, I’ve found the concept of Spider-Man being a mantle, rather than an individual, really cool and inspiring.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Spider-Man is not a mantle. It never was and never will be.

    • @thedeed8740
      @thedeed8740 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@LUCKO2022it literally is
      That’s why so many different characters have taken up the mantle 💀

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thedeed8740
      No

    • @thedeed8740
      @thedeed8740 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@LUCKO2022
      Doc oc
      Miles
      Gwen
      Peter
      Hobie
      Miguel
      Penny
      Uncle Ben
      And those are just a few names that have taken up the spider man mantle 🥶

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@thedeed8740
      Doc Ock used Peter's body for starters.
      The rest aren't the legit Spider-Man.
      Enough of the pandering shut up.
      Peter is Spidey.
      Clark Kent is Superman
      Bruce Wayne is Batman

  • @zombieslaya3456
    @zombieslaya3456 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Miles is his own man. He's his own character and the past few bits of media of him with as the lead have really solidified that. He's a different person with his own background and values as a result of that.

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico ปีที่แล้ว +13

      precisely why he needs his own Spider-name.

    • @lucky4d725
      @lucky4d725 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Yarblocosifiliticohe's had it for a decade now. Fucking move on already.

    • @legendofsociety796
      @legendofsociety796 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yarblocosifiliticoi dont see anyone getting upset about any other spiderman multi-universes except. Dude people just dont like negros. Its okay to say, infact its better to say so you dont have to bring your silly pseudo arguments

    • @Quenterro.
      @Quenterro. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Yarblocosifiliticodidn't they name him arachnid kid or something or was that someone else

    • @thepillowhead2453
      @thepillowhead2453 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Quenterro. Yes but that's shit. Brooklyn Spider-Man is my goto.

  • @skytheguy9391
    @skytheguy9391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Miles is as much a spiderman as 2099, noir, and spider ham. He's just not the real spider-man and never will be. He simply doesn't deserve the title.

    • @Christian-zt9uq
      @Christian-zt9uq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Seriously, you were the fastest sperm? And by the way, Miles is as "The real" Spider-Man as Peter, I'm not saying that, literally everyone with at least two brain cells says it.

  • @baki484
    @baki484 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Though I prefer them separate. I've always wanted to see a world where Peter doesn't die and is around to train Miles. I'm just hoping they stop with just Peter and Miles.
    "But I've never seen myself as Spiderman".

    • @erianpeterson3431
      @erianpeterson3431 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It might sound cheesy but we all have spidey in us I mean your fighting for something or eventually will 😅

    • @thegreatgamingkid8252
      @thegreatgamingkid8252 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The PS4/5 game unless something happens in the sequel…

    • @t.j.1584
      @t.j.1584 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think the games do that pretty well.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thegreatgamingkid8252 I was referring games to the insomaniac games. Thanks for stating obvious

    • @baki484
      @baki484 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@t.j.1584 No shit because the whole initial comment was referring to the game which is why.

  • @bruhidk5585
    @bruhidk5585 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The message of the first spider-verse movie is that ANYONE can wear the mask crazy how that’s just ignored

    • @zafarwahidduddin1026
      @zafarwahidduddin1026 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's not a message that's just marketing

    • @bruhidk5585
      @bruhidk5585 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zafarwahidduddin1026 🤓

  • @hyp3rcube850
    @hyp3rcube850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THIS WHAT I HAVE EXPECTED OF YOUR CHANNEL...DELIVERED AS ALWAYS!! I couldn't put this better :D

  • @midwintersnight
    @midwintersnight ปีที่แล้ว +78

    The reason I love the insomniac games so much is because the stories of Peter and Miles' respective games reflect their Spider-Man identities so much.
    Peter's Story is about saving the whole city from MULTIPLE Super-Powered enemies. There are mob wars in the DLC that threaten to tear the city apart. It's all very grand in scale.
    Miles' Story is so much more intimate. It's still large, but it's about saving his community, not the whole city. There are activities where you save people while learning about their lives and personalities. He's saving his new home from corporate dicks who see him and his neighborhood as disposable, and they ALL have to band together to show that they aren't. There's a gang of angry youths that cause havoc because (supposedly) they aren't being guided by positive models. They don't have Rio Morales as a mother or Genke as a friend, Peter as a mentor or Feast as a way to help others. I'm growing up in London, and I see first-hand how badly young people can fall into constant anger because they don't have support.
    (Talking about Miles as a whole now, not insomniac or spider-verse specifically)
    The beauty of Miles' Spider-Man is that Peter started out just like him. Small-scale. looking out for the little guy. A freindly neighborhood. But as he made larger and larger enemies, he grew in his concept and had less and less time for the little guy, which he knew was having a negative impact. But then Miles comes along and begins looking out for the little guy just like Peter used to.
    Miles is no less than Peter. He is no less Spider-Man. He is no less a hero. He is on the exact same path that Peter took, and he can only grow from here. One day in Miles' journey, he will be at the exact same scale as Peter is now, and maybe he'll take on another Spider-Person to start the cycle of heroism again.
    Miles 100% IS Spider-Man.

    • @CamCrouch04VA
      @CamCrouch04VA ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well spoken

    • @gogetathestrongestfusion
      @gogetathestrongestfusion ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A trope of multiple Spider Man together is amazing if eventually they gives Miles a Partner when Peter is done would be a really refreshing idea and we are finally entering that age where everyone can relate to one of the spider power characters

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gogetathestrongestfusion That partner should be Mayday.

  • @dalethompson6853
    @dalethompson6853 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Both miles and peter are spiderman end of story. Its ok to relate to one more than the other and to have a favourite. But always remember that the point is anyone can wear the mask. Miles has just as much of a right to the title as any other spider person out there, and its cool to be kind to others. Some kids growing up will look back on miles as their spiderman one day.

    • @kingj9664
      @kingj9664 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been saying that ever since miles was made

    • @kindasnowy8852
      @kindasnowy8852 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@GamfluentI personally like calling Peter "The Amazing Spider-Man" and Miles "The Ultimate Spider-Man" (Don't think too much on the choice of adjectives. They're just from where I first knew the characters).
      But, I don't really see the problem in both of them being named Spider-Man, since anyone could be under the mask

    • @kindasnowy8852
      @kindasnowy8852 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gamfluent Yeah, I know but hes already the Amazing Spider-Man to me, why give him more than one name, yknow?

    • @joycongod4831
      @joycongod4831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Gamfluentcause miles is spiderman

    • @doompeach7228
      @doompeach7228 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right that’s literally the point of the spider-verse movies
      “Anyone can wear the mask” it’s such a simple but powerful statement
      Like the Batman quote “it’s not who I am underneath but what I do that defines me” it’s essentially the whole point of superhero’s in general these are all stories that are supposed inspire acts of good
      What happens is people get attached and bent out of shape at the thought of change. It’s the power and curse of nostalgia

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Personally for me Miles Morales and peter parker could both be Spider-Man and still be great heroes, heck my favorite version is spider-girl mayday parker the daughter of peter parker and Mary jane who's really awesome and a great legacy character in my opinion and seeing her teaming up with Miles Morales Spider-Man would be really awesome and tons of fun, and frankly having all three characters being spider-men and girls actually makes sense and all of them are heroes which i approve at least in my opinion. :)

    • @darrienjones8917
      @darrienjones8917 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly I would love a comic where they make peter parker have a happy life, conceive mayday parker and have Miles definitively take up the mantle Spider-Man with Mayday becoming Spider-Girl as like his student. Kind of continue that cycle.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@darrienjones8917 i agree and honestly nothing would make me happier but to see peter parker Spider-Man and mary jane both have a happy life yes but also like you said seeing mayday parker their daughter finally alive and kicking in the mainstream marvel universe and having miles Morales definitely take up the mantle of Spider-Man like you said and mayday parker becoming spider-girl and being teach by Miles Morales as his student would be freaking amazing and fantastic in my opinion.

  • @Rosales3269
    @Rosales3269 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    See in the comics, he's written to be just a tokenized version of Peter. Only difference being that his parents, and uncle, are still alive and that he's black. And he can turn invisible and shoot lightning out of his hands.
    It also doesn't help that they decide his origin story is to kill off Peter just to replace him with Miles. Why not just give Miles his own universe where Peter was never Spider-Man and Miles is the only one that gets bit in his universe?
    Sure, there's Gwen where she had to kill Peter, but that Peter became a villain.
    In the movies and the games, they actually made Miles his own person. Where Peter is smart and can build gadgets, Miles is more creative and artistic and relies on Ganke to help with his gadgetry.
    But, also it comes down to the fact that when you say Spider-Man, the first thing you think of is Peter Parker. Very rarely are you ever going to think of Miles Morales. But, when you say Miles Morales, well... he's the first thing you think of. Miles doesn't have his own way to identify him as another Spider-Person.
    Spider-Man 2099 - Miguel O'Hara
    Spider-Gwen/ Ghost Spider - Gwen Stacy
    Spider-Punk - Hobie Brown
    Scarlet Spider - Ben Reilly
    sp//dr - Peni Parker
    Spider-Woman - Jessica Drew
    Spinneret - Mary Jane Parker
    Spider-Girl - Mayday Parker
    Superior Spider-Man - Otto Octavious
    Everyone has a unique way to call themselves Spider-(blank). Miles doesn't. Hence, why there are people saying that Miles can't be Spider-Man. Cuz it almost makes it feel like they're trying to replace Peter. He could still be a Spider-Person if they gave him his own identity. Like Shadow Spider. Give him his own backstory, his own universe. One that doesn't involve killing Peter, yet he still learns With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.

    • @noahisuku5338
      @noahisuku5338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Miles’ story exists in the ultimate universe. He would be no different an no more popular than other spider-man variants. There’s nothing wrong with people seeing miles morales as “spider-man”, because that’s what he is. The other spider-man variants are known as spider-man in their universe. They’re not “spider-man 2099”, they are spider-man. People may think Peter when you say spider-man and people may think Miles. He is not a gimmick spider-man like the rest of the variants so he doesn’t need a tag. He’s spider-man. Suggesting to rewrite his story and dispel him when he’s one of the most popular characters- more popular than the other variants, is absurd. Miles’ story is that he becomes spider-man due to the death of ultimate spider-man and for the most part it’s consistent.

    • @r.k845
      @r.k845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@noahisuku5338He’s not Spider-Man buddy and he never will be.
      That’s always gonna be Peter.

    • @jaylenyaheardmeh8588
      @jaylenyaheardmeh8588 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@r.k845seethe, he's spiderman

    • @r.k845
      @r.k845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jaylenyaheardmeh8588 He isn’t that guy pal

  • @Kalashee
    @Kalashee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ok, but he’s not. In the same way Terry McGinnis takes up the Batman mantle, but EVERYBODY associates Bruce Wayne with “Batman”, Miles is just a fill-in/stand-in, no matter how so very pathetically desperately hard pretend writers don’t want that to be true, it ALWAYS will be.
    Why not give him his OWN moniker, his OWN identity, his OWN origin, his OWN rogues gallery, his OWN storylines, his OWN trademark location, his OWN traits & characteristics… how about *make Miles Morales HIS OWN PERSON instead of biting everything off Peter Parker and just tokenized race-swapping for ret@rd political pandering points?* Why can’t we do that???

  • @ultimojo868
    @ultimojo868 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I gotta push back on one point you made about Peter fighting against super big threats like the Sinister Six, meanwhile Miles is engaging in more neighborhood level threats - like saving cats and helping festivals. In Spiderman PS4 there are a slew of moments where Peter helps out the civilians of the city in neighborhood friendly ways - like getting that guy his pidgeons or helping a woman's husband not be blackmailed. Peter's ultimate threat being a city wide pandemic and Miles' being a decent sized crater in the middle of NY are both fairly large threats and they both find time to engage and help the people of the city with their problems.

  • @Redeemed5044
    @Redeemed5044 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    That’s the thing, Peter used to be the small community guy, but as he grew in experience so did his roster of villains causing him to put less focus on community. I do agree that Spider-Man starts out as focusing on the little guy, but then continues into attempting to balance that focus of the little guy and the city wide threat. That’s why Peter doesn’t just outright join the avengers, he focuses on New York .

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s also why I’m happy that Miles is more community focused with his recent stories in the games (Spider-Man: Miles Morales), the first Spider-Verse movie (and I say this because he’s trying to save his community from being destroyed) and in the comics too.

  • @seventhshin0bi864
    @seventhshin0bi864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these smaller videos about people’s general thoughts about a topic. Don’t get me wrong, the video essays and reviews are great, it’s just nice to have a quick video to watch on the bus or before bed.

  • @yaqub--658
    @yaqub--658 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need more video essays from you

  • @adamvifrye2690
    @adamvifrye2690 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you blew my mind in the first minute of this... yes, i think i like peter better because he's alone, and i can relate to that alot better being from the suburbs with no cultural support system, and a rather introverted way of life. the fact that peter struggles thru that relates more to me, especially that he always gets back up.

  • @xgaming125g
    @xgaming125g ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In my opinion this discussion is stupid. Here is the fact: Miles Morales is Spider-Man and Peter Parker is Spider-Man. If you don't like Miles Morales as a character then that's fine because you have the option to not watch or play Miles Morales content. It's that simple.

    • @hippiichick6146
      @hippiichick6146 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why can't I like Miles Morales and also not like that he's called spiderman.

    • @xgaming125g
      @xgaming125g ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hippiichick6146 You can

  • @7orotv3
    @7orotv3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah I will always respect every character that puts that spidey suit on. Peter will always be my favorite. But there are so many others that carry the mantle and name pretty well. 🐐

  • @MrHammers
    @MrHammers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never really read Spiderman comics growing up. I only saw him whenever he would show up in other Marvel comics, like when The Punisher uses him as a personal shield. But all this new Spiderman media coming out, the movies, animations and games, really makes me want to be a bigger fan of Spiderman.
    I suppose he can be more than just a punching bag for The Russian 😃

  • @GT_Mr.C
    @GT_Mr.C ปีที่แล้ว +86

    i find it so funny how these same people say this but they’re totally fine with gwen being a spider-person. make it make sense 💀

    • @Ilya0084
      @Ilya0084 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spider-person?

    • @Ronnie-mx1wu
      @Ronnie-mx1wu ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It makes complete sense, Gwen is white Miles isn't.

    • @afaxmachine5045
      @afaxmachine5045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ilya0084 yea?

    • @GT_Mr.C
      @GT_Mr.C ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ilya0084 yes… can you read?

    • @Ilya0084
      @Ilya0084 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GT_Mr.C now that I read it again I got it didn't get what you meant at first

  • @DarshanBhambhani
    @DarshanBhambhani ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Peter: Miles you are Spider-Man
    Fans: no he isn’t
    ???

    • @TheFaithfulDragon
      @TheFaithfulDragon หลายเดือนก่อน

      he inst, tokenized replacement

  • @VongolaXZax
    @VongolaXZax ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well said, it's not about who's wearing the mask or the person behind it, but the mindset behind the one wearing it and how they react to day to day, morale choices.
    This is exactly why I always could relate to Peter, the original comics version and also the Ultimate Spider-Man version as well.
    I like Miles character, even though I do not find him relatable to me personally (and that's okay) it does not mean he won't be relatable to others that find him so a retable character to those who can relate with his life or decisions or problems, highs and lows.
    As Miles once put it, *"anyone can wear the mask"*
    And, "It's how you wear the mask"
    Everyone will have their personal favorites, we all do, but it's never okay to dismiss another person's opinion about their favorite version of Spider-Man, by always saying they're not, when they are.

  • @supermrmainman
    @supermrmainman ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really like seeing this kind of content from you, man. Your insight and depth are what make your game reviews worth watching.

  • @stevenbraga4106
    @stevenbraga4106 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Peter Parker IS the spider-man of older generations
    Miles Morales IS the spider-man of the new generations
    Miles is just as much Spider-Man as Peter, I don't even understand why there's a debate: you have to evolve with the times.

    • @milliondoller06
      @milliondoller06 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      their comic book characters that can stand the test of time peter parker can work for any generation

    • @LaloSalamancaGaming69
      @LaloSalamancaGaming69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Miles morales is not my spiderman lmao
      Just because im young it doesnt mean i have shitty taste

    • @JayXDagger
      @JayXDagger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because Miles is just Miles. Marvels is pulling out with Black movement. Like y'all already have say it enough so why keep bragging like how people who struggle with gender and pronouns. We get it but shut up 😂

  • @YaBoiiMarz
    @YaBoiiMarz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The point of spiderman is that anyone can wear the mask. Spiderman isnt peter its the symbol and for me miles embodies that symbol just as every spiderman does.

  • @michaelchapman454
    @michaelchapman454 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    There are so many different versions of Spider-Man its not fair to say Miles isnt a valid Spider-Man

    • @UltimateTS64
      @UltimateTS64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr, if I were to argue that any version of Spider-Man wasn't actually Spider-Man it'd be 2099, bro doesn't even get bit by a Spider 💀

    • @spider-man500
      @spider-man500 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@UltimateTS64And yet is a much better character.
      A much better character and actually unique and fresh take for the mantle.
      But still knows that he is simply a varient of an OG character.
      While Miles was literally created to be a woke, "politically correct", Black-Washed Replacement for Peter Parker
      And other than Miles being a good character in Insomniac game and Spider-Verse movie, his overall character sucks. Comics still have the same attitude to this day.
      THAT is why he is DESERVES the hate.

    • @aquaarmour4924
      @aquaarmour4924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The other spidermen are presented as variants, Miles is presented as a replacement. They are not even the same

    • @alexcrawford7926
      @alexcrawford7926 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spider-man500go outside you noodle

    • @UltimateTS64
      @UltimateTS64 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@spider-man500 I'm aware of the history and controversy surrounding his inception, but just cause a character is poorly written and utilized doesn't discount him from holding the mantle. That's like how there's been different people who have been Flash or Captain America etc.

  • @Dead_Pegasus
    @Dead_Pegasus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Second Spider-Man video to make me tear up today

  • @boopinoop4545
    @boopinoop4545 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I find it funny that it’s a well known notion that anyone could be behind the mask, but as soon as someone other than Peter Parker is actually behind it people go “well not them, they can’t be behind the mask!”

    • @Quenterro.
      @Quenterro. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts

    • @hardondong3550
      @hardondong3550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Real

    • @Tr_1391
      @Tr_1391 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's because people like you keep misinterpreting what that means. "Anyone could be behind the mask" Means anyone can relate to the morals and values of Spider-Man. It doesn't mean insert black guy behind the mask guy now I can see ME

    • @tellempowda6015
      @tellempowda6015 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Tr_1391 your angers misplaced. Take it up with marvel. Everyone enjoyed pete. Nobody complained saying "pete doesnt represent me cuz im black" but we do however see more than enough people trying their utter best to detach from miles. We get it. You dont like it?move on. Theres other things to enjoy in life. Pete doesnt just appear in one film so knock yaself out🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @Tr_1391
      @Tr_1391 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tellempowda6015 What did I say that was angry? Also, you might have a point if there wasn't such a huge push for Miles, that they're basically trying to make him the main Spider-Man. I like Miles, but he literally lives off of the success of Peter, yet everyone wants to pretend he's so unique. He shouldn't be called Spider-Man.

  • @Force_RC21
    @Force_RC21 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ive always related to Miles more than Peter, but I've always loved both charecters for their own reasons.
    I completely agree with you in this video.

    • @boywithanearring
      @boywithanearring ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why?

    • @Force_RC21
      @Force_RC21 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@boywithanearring my situation, being Puerto Rican and having father I try to live up to.
      The best way I could put it is that Miles has felt like my spiderman

  • @tearupnationinc.7199
    @tearupnationinc.7199 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tear Up Nation- "Miles Morales has his own nickname Kid-Arachnid.

  • @o.s8573
    @o.s8573 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thought of Miles playing Raid Shadow Legends while falling is so funny I dont even mind the ad transition

  • @Ender11037
    @Ender11037 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm pretty sure a lot of people got their panties in a twist, because he's black.

    • @headshotmaster138
      @headshotmaster138 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cry more

    • @Decimo10X
      @Decimo10X 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@headshotmaster138Hey now, don't keep all the crying to yourself now.

    • @headshotmaster138
      @headshotmaster138 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Decimo10X good, we both can cry together bot.

    • @Decimo10X
      @Decimo10X 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      r138 Nah I'll leave that you since you lack any male hormones.

  • @LeLNascimento
    @LeLNascimento ปีที่แล้ว +183

    To those who say this: if Miles is not Spiderman, then Barry Allen is not the Flash

    • @Isaacisaperson4677
      @Isaacisaperson4677 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      or Jason, Tim, and Damian as Robin

    • @Ace-0f-Spadez
      @Ace-0f-Spadez ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Isaacisaperson4677I think to a certain extent that’s different every flash got their own roles at a certain point and miles won’t get that so he’ll always be in peters shadow

    • @Agent_3141
      @Agent_3141 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Isaacisaperson4677 Miles is Spider-Man, but he's no Peter Parker. Peter lost his parents, uncle, and sometimes Aunt May. Miles has a family, many friends, and many things going for him.
      It's nice that he has a different lifestyle than Peter, but Peter suffers more and has it worse. Especially in today's comics with that whole cuck thing.

    • @t.j.1584
      @t.j.1584 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      A third example would be if Miles is not Spider-man, then John Stewart, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz aren’t Green Lantern.

    • @t.j.1584
      @t.j.1584 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Agent_3141 Marvel editors really turned Spidey into sneako fr 💀

  • @acoleman1191
    @acoleman1191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a dope video like always keep it up man

  • @Mmantis
    @Mmantis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the sales say other wise 😂 .

    • @mangakdramagamer1153
      @mangakdramagamer1153 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Across the spider verse says otherwise 😂😂😂

  • @erianpeterson3431
    @erianpeterson3431 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Im 23 now and i remember going to my school book fair when i was 12 and my first ever comic was ultimate comics spider man issue#1 i didnt even know Miles was a thing until i read the book and i even ran into my moms room and told her theres a Spider-Man that represents me from then on i always viewed him as Spider-Man and Miles is my #1

  • @Charl1eSheenWIN
    @Charl1eSheenWIN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    miles aint spider-man. just like sam aint captain america. jane aint thor. etc. they're legacy characters and they are exactly that. legacy characters. created simply to pop ratings or etc. that is all they are. more toys/merchandise. and if we were to use your (and other people's as well) logic, Venom himself would be "spider-man" since he has the same powers(not counting that nonsense recent Cates run) and look(agent venom/etc). the sooner yall realize that these legacy characters were created to simply pop ratings and sell stuff, the easier it'll be.

  • @AveryAllen-gx2xd
    @AveryAllen-gx2xd หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Miles Morales is Spider Man

  • @Custer_X_Of_The_DAU
    @Custer_X_Of_The_DAU ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just watched your Spider Man Season Pass Done Right video last night and just bought the PS5 remastered for ten bucks because it comes with all of the dlc for free. All thanks to you. Thank you!

  • @breab
    @breab 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think Miles is a Spider-Man, if Peter isn't in that universe.
    I've just never enjoyed the idea of a superhero taking another hero's name while they're still around. So I think Miles works best when Pete doesn't exist, is dead, or retired.
    But I think this is a bigger issue of comic writers not giving him his own unique identity with the mask.
    He only has like 1 bad guy of his own (Prowler), everyone is just Pete's scraps, Miles didn't get his own superhero name (not even after he became a part of 616), and he just has to live in Pete's shadow.
    The writers need to make Miles Spider-Man his own thing and stop being Spider-Man Jr

    • @drifter5375
      @drifter5375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly this. I would have never problem with Miles if he didn't try to replace peter parker and instead had his own name, own series, own personality, own games. I'm a big fan of Kaine (Second Scarlet Spider) because he had his own city, own villians and his own personality. But if they decided that Kaine appeared in NYC and replaced spider-man I'd be just as angry.
      I've made an argument very similar to yours and I got called a racist for it. I'm fine with more POC reprenstation in media. The problem isn't that miles is a black character, the problem is that he is a poorly written one, who is replacing one of the most beloved characters in marvel. People are far too obsessed with the culture war these days.

  • @Isaacisaperson4677
    @Isaacisaperson4677 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love miles he just has that "exaggerated swagger of a black teen"

    • @Abel_97
      @Abel_97 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💀💀💀

    • @reagan1197
      @reagan1197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fax

  • @Ilovekyrie
    @Ilovekyrie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I'm Brooklyn's one and only Spider-man"- Miles (AKA Spider-man)

  • @mostie
    @mostie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miles Morales indeed is spider-man

  • @edwardmartinezrodriguez8627
    @edwardmartinezrodriguez8627 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Got me with the title, me thinking no way our boy Aqua doesn't think Miles is a Spider-Man 😂

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I believe I summed up all the reasons why people don't like Miles as a Spider-Person:
    Miles is the inverse of Peter but only superficially
    Peter is poor, Miles is middle class
    Peter was an outcast, Miles was relatively popular
    Peter is an orphan raised by a single parent, Miles has a full family
    Peter went to public school, Miles goes to private
    This is what we call "Going WIDE and NOT DEEP". The writers have YET to dive deep into ANY of this to write compelking stories and characters around him so Miles just borrows Peter's villains for the most part. Its so SAD😭.
    He has no villains written AROUND his character...because he has NO noteworthy CHARACTER traits outside of being a COWARD(which they didnt dive into fully at all, like they constsntly play on Peters selfishness and anger issues) just superficial traits. If I were to ask you what Miles stood for, you'd have no answer, unlike with just about any other well estalbished to even B list Heroes
    He doesnt even have a well established Archenemy yet and he's been around for 10 PLUS YEARS🤦‍♂️. His most popular villain Prowler...is just an alt universe version of PETER'S PROWLER.
    I mean COME ON. He had a game and technically a movie...and he just fought versions of PETERS VILLAINS. I say technically because the original draft of the film actually dove deeply into Miles personal story, the finished draft left us with CRUMBS in comparison to shift focus to the Spiderverse aspects...funnily enough they are ALL more interesting that Miles himself...even Gwen who was just a WHAT IF story😭💀. And in the next spiderverse he is fighting yet ANOTHER Peter villain😐🤦‍♂️
    I get that he took up the mantle but Even Batman Beyond had his OWN villains with some loose easter eggs of older ones. Miguel Ohara is a waaaay better character than Miles...because he has an ACTUAL CHARACTER to build original stories on and not just rehash Peter's stories...not to mention all his powers outside base phsyical enhancements work different to Peter's. Miles on the other hand just has two UNDRdeveloped plot devices tacked on to Peters powers🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
    This wouldnt be so bad if Marvel actually PROPERLY ESTABLISHED the Spider Family but they have proven time and time again that recently they have NO IDEA what to do with ANY of these spider characters. Cough Chasm Cough. Thank god for the spiderverse movies cause the comics are TRASH🤦‍♂️
    Miles has Potential and A LOT of it...but he will NEVER achieve it if
    1. Keeps carrying the name of a character with 60 years of LEGACY in a universe where that character is still alive
    2. Has NO DEFINED origin story since unlike Peter In EVERY adaptation for Miles they just keep switching the location of his Spider Bite and his motivations. Hence why in the span of 2 years we get 2 completely different adaptations for him
    Spiderverse that is closer to the comics and The game...where they legit just made him...Peter, he's smart as Peter AND enthusiastic about being Spider-Man when its supposed to be the opposite💀.

    • @Mr.Silence.
      @Mr.Silence. ปีที่แล้ว

      Im gonna be honest i stopped reading when you said he doesn’t have villains because hes had his own villains for the past 10 years

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mr.Silence. he doesnt have iconic villains. Most of his villains are lame do the point that the adaptarions dont even bother adapting them. Name me ONE iconic villain for Miles

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@m.g.michael6976 Then keep scrolling. No one said you had to. The only one coping here is you cause everything I mentioned is the honest truth😂

    • @hippiichick6146
      @hippiichick6146 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@no.1spidey-fan182they can't handle the truth lol

  • @occasionallyhuman
    @occasionallyhuman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He can definitely play Raid: Shadow Legends while swinging across New York as it's an idle game.

  • @zaidebtw4438
    @zaidebtw4438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will u be reviewing games like the last of us or dying light 2 In the future?

  • @Deivid-bn6yw
    @Deivid-bn6yw ปีที่แล้ว +10

    4:40 I think this one thing I really enjoy more from Miles than Peter is Miles’ everyday life is a lot more closer to mine. Peter is very much the nerd, he gets picked on for it and is generally seen as kind of a loser with a few close friends. But that just isn’t the average high schoolers experience at least it wasn’t for me. I wasn’t smart but I wasn’t a complete idiot, I wasn’t with all the cool kids but I had a fairly decent social circle from a variety of groups because high school is a time of trying to fit in with people and you don’t know where you want to go and who you want to surround yourself with and generally in modern high school settings there aren’t many stereotypes anymore, everyone just sort of mixes with everyone and I think Miles better shows that.
    He’s very intelligent and quite the geek but he generally gets along with everyone. It’s that one scene in Spiderverse where Miles is walking through his neighbourhood and you can tell he has a sense of community, the miles morales game shows this off in the intro very well too, he’s not a complete nerd that’s socially inept and female repellent like Peter is always portrayed, he gets along with everyone

  • @Agent_3141
    @Agent_3141 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Peter will always be my Spider-Man. Miles is fine but he'll never replace Peter for me

    • @mangakdramagamer1153
      @mangakdramagamer1153 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In peter will never replace miles for me simple

    • @Agent_3141
      @Agent_3141 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mangakdramagamer1153 Good for you. Doesn't change what I think

    • @Chocolatepain
      @Chocolatepain ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No one said he should?

    • @mangakdramagamer1153
      @mangakdramagamer1153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chocolatepain dude who r you ti change first anybody who don't like miles already is a zero to me keep your hating energy over there miles gonna keep rising watch across the spider verse just did it watch mark my words

    • @Chocolatepain
      @Chocolatepain ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mangakdramagamer1153 what are you saying? I'm not even responding to you

  • @jman3657
    @jman3657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude what are you talking about Peter Parker is the original Spiderman. The other Spidermans and spider womans just are tokenized versions of Peter Parker

    • @papavale
      @papavale 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Said nobody ever

  • @JoshBonesJones
    @JoshBonesJones ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter Parker is Spiderman
    Miles Morales is Spiderman
    Ofc Peter Parker is the OG and no one is a better Spiderman. However Miles has really come into his own these past few years with his interpretations in Spider-Verse and the Insomniac games. Before this i may have even agreed hes not Spiderman, however now hes cemented as a legit Hero.

  • @pizzatime4204
    @pizzatime4204 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    To the people who think that, I hope you keep the same energy with any other alternate version of spider man

    • @MFZ0dd
      @MFZ0dd ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yup I do. I don't like any of them.

    • @pizzatime4204
      @pizzatime4204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MFZ0dd even ultimate spider man?

    • @aquaarmour4924
      @aquaarmour4924 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The other spidermen are presented as variants, Miles is presented as a replacement. They are not even the same but enjoy your false equivalency.

    • @pizzatime4204
      @pizzatime4204 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@aquaarmour4924 That's not a false equivalency. Miles was never presented as a replacement for the main Peter Parker. The only thing close to that is when the ultimate Peter Parker died, which is an alternate universe. Miles is shown as a partner/sidekick to Peter, or has stories focused around him. If you're saying that about miles you better hate Ben Reilly, who actually replaced Peter Parker as the main spider man for a period of time

  • @xanderscut
    @xanderscut ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved this new type of video style! Keen to see you continue to experiment, going from strength to strength 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Ltdtaylor1970VA
    @Ltdtaylor1970VA ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing and great video man.

  • @lillonk555
    @lillonk555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen a lot of people say "the reason everyone loves spiderman is anyone can wear the mask" and that's true, but that's not why we love peter parker

  • @LethalProtector8000
    @LethalProtector8000 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I was about 14 when Miles first debuted and I held onto that same bias for years. While Peter Parker will always be Spider-Man for me, I'm perfectly fine in accepting Miles as his own version. People have accepted Terry Mcginnis as Batman, why not Miles Morales as Spider-Man?

    • @spider-man500
      @spider-man500 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because Unlike Miles he wasn't created to be a woke, Black washed replacement for the character(His creator literally refered to him as Black Peter Parker)
      Who Marvel to this day in the comics continues to push him to become a modern, politically correct(The fuck?) replacement for the Peter Parker character entirely.
      Why do all this bad stuff?
      Cause he's black. Because he's a minority, he NEEDS to replace the White OG to be accepted in modern woke Society.

    • @alexcrawford7926
      @alexcrawford7926 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@spider-man500i too love making up nonsense
      Did you know that the sun is purple?

    • @ariesvalliant760
      @ariesvalliant760 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ​@spider-man500 your right they're so thirsty to replace miles that's exactly why the last 8 live actions are about Peter and that miles mentor is Peter in into the spider verse and ps4 spider man or why Peter Parker is the main focus of spider man ps4 and spider man ps5 its almost like they're still making comics with Peter as the main character it's crazy how delusional you'd have to be to actually think Peter is being replaced is it that hard to accept that miles has just had a bump in popularity?

    • @t.j.1584
      @t.j.1584 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ariesvalliant760Facts

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ⁠​⁠@@spider-man500Peter literally *DIED* in the ultimate universe saving his last remaining family and Miles took up the mantle of Spider-Man to honor him and his legacy. All while becoming his own Spider-Man with his own problems to face, different from Peter.
      Dick Grayson did the same thing when he became Batman after Bruce “died” in Crisis. And he became his own Batman with his own problems to face, different from Bruce.
      I know Dick was a sidekick and became his own hero before taking over the mantle, but that doesn’t excuse that heroes don’t inspire others to be a hero and for Miles; Peter sacrificing himself to save his family and learning why he did it inspired *him* to become the new Spider-Man and give hope back to the city.
      If someone tried that in the main marvel universe at the time, the backlash would’ve been much worse in my opinion.
      And before you reply with “Their replacing Peter with Miles to be accepted in woke society!” 5 *YEARS* before Miles was even created and introduced to the world of comics, One More Day happened and Peter hasn’t been the same since then.
      So no, even with Miles being created and now being in the main universe as OG Spidey, Peter’s still getting shitted on. And that’s on Marvel Comics, NOT Miles Morales because he has nothing to do with what Peter’s going through in his runs.
      That’s on Marvel. Don’t scapegoat and blame Miles for something that isn’t his fault to begin with. Peter Parker isn’t going no where, he’s the flagship of Marvel comics with a much longer history than Miles, and that’s ok.
      But don’t blame Miles for something that got nothing to do with him. And please chill out my guy.

  • @gechoman44iwantahippo
    @gechoman44iwantahippo ปีที่แล้ว +18

    All I’ll say is this:
    Saying Miles isn’t Spider-Man just because Peter is is like saying Wally West isn’t The Flash because Barry Allen is, John Stewart and Hal Jordan aren’t Green Lantern because Alan Scott is, Damian Wayne isn’t Robin because Dick Grayson is, Sam Wilson isn’t Captain America because Steve Rogers is, Carol Danvers isn’t Captain Marvel because Mar-Vell is, etc. It’s absolutely ridiculous. If you think that, then you also think Miguel O’ Hara isn’t Spider-Man.

    • @nt8255
      @nt8255 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Actually, you would have to say that barry allen isn't the flash. Jay garrick was the first speedster to call himself "the flash"

    • @gechoman44iwantahippo
      @gechoman44iwantahippo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @nt8255 I’m surprised it took somebody this long to point that out, tbh. But yeah, you’re just proving my point further.

    • @FOAB-Carlos
      @FOAB-Carlos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it really a big deal if people believe these characters should not be called by their main alias's and just by their name: Robin, Spiderman, Flash. And yes I get that there's other Robin's, But damian nor Tim drake will ever be THE ROBIN like Dick Grayson. In the same way Miles morales is a spidermen, but he's not THE SPIDERMAN, like Peter parker.

    • @FOAB-Carlos
      @FOAB-Carlos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also think calling Wally West The flash is incredibly ridiculous, I never really understood why they made an entirely new type of flash who looks too similar to Barry and not call him a different name. But he's a flash alright, he's not the FLASH,

  • @mugzee9486
    @mugzee9486 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where does the begal effect come into this

  • @umbrellasquid9669
    @umbrellasquid9669 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo some of these comment replies have me absolutely dead... Spiderman fans NEED to chill out.

    • @Quenterro.
      @Quenterro. ปีที่แล้ว

      Comic book nerds get mad easily ngl

  • @HeyMomonia
    @HeyMomonia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think that Miles suffers from only one issue. He lives at the same time as Peter Parker.
    I honestly think that's the problem. Because of that he's constantly compared to Peter and people can't help but ask themselves why is he here in the first place.
    They're afraid that Miles will replace their favorite character. Which is understandable. It would be like wanting to replace wolverine or something.
    I think that's why miguel doesn't suffer from the same problem.
    He's different enough and lives in a time where peter parker is long gone so he can live to his potential without being constantly compared to peter.
    And for people talking about ben Reilly and how people love him they forget that at the time he was introduced people complained about it to the point where peter came back.
    That's just my take on it. And i think what you said about anyone being able to wear the mask is something that Stan Lee himself said.

  • @fireblade696
    @fireblade696 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What people mean is that miles didn’t really have his own identity from Peter for a while, he just kinda took Peter’s villains and did what Peter did. More recently he has differentiated from Peter a bit, but still he is just Miles Morales to most people. When you say Spider-Man most people think Peter Parker, not Miles Morales. He is just a different flavor of Spider-Man to people, and not much to differentiate. He doesn’t even have his own name, even if it’s just a name to use on the cover like Spider-Man 2099 or Spider-Gwen. His comics have to say Miles Morales. I wish he had his own name.

  • @Hellsing7747
    @Hellsing7747 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a pretty good video ! Well done !

  • @Faillord1
    @Faillord1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! And I agree 100% with what you said.
    Only thing I always think about (just because of lack of information I guess) is why does Miles have his extra abilities... it's not like there is an Electricity emmiting spider out there, or is it? Just a bit confused of his Skillset, but I understand, that he has to be somewhat different, but I always thought about it.

  • @thefinne6737
    @thefinne6737 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like miles he needs his own rogues gallery. But Peter is the definitive spider man

    • @LilGreasyAndEm
      @LilGreasyAndEm ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s a rogue gallery

    • @lilpeelypat3773
      @lilpeelypat3773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@lilgreasyandem3150 villians the superhero fights

    • @noahisuku5338
      @noahisuku5338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope

  • @augustolasta2468
    @augustolasta2468 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve always hated the idea that like peter was destined to be spiderman or that he was a chosen one, it totally takes away the everyman nature of spiderman, that anyone can be him and be a good person

  • @The7thDraconian
    @The7thDraconian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Louder for the people in the back.

  • @dereknight861
    @dereknight861 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ll meekly admit I had the notion back when miles replaced Peter in the Ultimate comics, said comics I argue handled spiderman FAR BETTER than in the mainline at the time..or possibly ever, really.
    That said if anyone was worthy to have a modern take on handling the spider identity Miles DEFINITELY soars on that aspect.

  • @JeanLucPicard85
    @JeanLucPicard85 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know who's really NOT Spiderman? Raid Shadow Legends.

  • @DuoPersona101
    @DuoPersona101 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Thank you. Good day

  • @andorichards
    @andorichards 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot express how much I want to thank you for this Video 🙏🏻

  • @arcanejack
    @arcanejack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply put, he's a Spider-man, but not THE Spider-man.

  • @theoutsiderjess4869
    @theoutsiderjess4869 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Peter is always going to be my Spiderman but I love Miles so much I can also relate to him as well as I'm black

  • @ronanthesuperginger
    @ronanthesuperginger ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the idea of miles being the prowler, like he took the title of his own but I love him as spider-man I feel like he really proved that famous quote that “anyone could be spider man it doesn’t matter if your white, black etc” I remember this idea someone had if there was a new universe that miles starts as prowler in the beginning and when he really learns with great power comes great responsibility then he becomes spider-man.

    • @Personontheinterne
      @Personontheinterne ปีที่แล้ว

      Spoiler for the new Spiderverse movie
      That does kind of happen tho, right? I don't think Prowler Miles is a villain here, so what you say might happen

    • @noahisuku5338
      @noahisuku5338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s so wrong with miles being spider-man

  • @GreenWolf2k
    @GreenWolf2k ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm gald all these new Miles Spider-Man content is actually making him his own character. Early depictions of his character, he was literally Peter Parker/Spider-Man but black. There was no difference between the two.

    • @ryko1478
      @ryko1478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that's true

  • @KenzTheLesserLad
    @KenzTheLesserLad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    miles isn't spider-man, he just does his own thin'

  • @ryangray600
    @ryangray600 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i asked my younger nephew who spiderman was and he said miles. While to me it's peter. people who grew up with these movies will have way different thoughts than people who didnt.

  • @maylabrown4584
    @maylabrown4584 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Miles isn't really a Spider-Man regardless of whatever hack writer wants to tell you, Spider-Man is Peter Parker, every other derivative is just that.
    The only people that are worthy of taking the mantle of Spider-Man and actually keeping it is Ben Reilly (who's original self unfortunately ended up dying) and Miguel O'Hara in the far distant future.
    Miles Morales despite being shown as a unique great character in Into the Spider-Verse and *only* Into the Spider-Verse will never escape the fact that he was created as just another token raceswap character.

    • @seantylerfermin4927
      @seantylerfermin4927 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You'vs basically contradicted your own point, by saying miles can't be spider-man yet bring up Ben reilly and miguel o hara... By your logic they can't be spider-man either, heck even Miguel can't be spider-man either, he's just another token character right?
      Let's be honest here kid, you don't like Miles cause he's black... Let's not beat around the bush... I know what kind of person you are and all the same fake ass fanboys pretending they're spider-man fans

    • @rappakalja5295
      @rappakalja5295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice of you to admit that the only reason Morales can't be a proper Spider-Man is because of his race! 😂 Sheer delusion.

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rappakalja5295 You didn't see I mentioned Miguel O'Hara? You do know that Miguel O'Hara is also Spanish right? Or are you cherrypicking to fit your narrative? Learn to read.

    • @seantylerfermin4927
      @seantylerfermin4927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maylabrown4584 Oh, give it a rest mate, just admit you're racist and move on...

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seantylerfermin4927 But I'm Puerto Rican just like Miles is, you brainlets don't have any original thoughts.

  • @iliveunderarock8070
    @iliveunderarock8070 ปีที่แล้ว

    that outro was insane

  • @mr.a.7977
    @mr.a.7977 ปีที่แล้ว

    And here I thought we were done with the spider man content for a while. This video was quite the surprise!
    I'm used with reviews but this... Yeah, I'd love to see more.

  • @VideoGameProfessor
    @VideoGameProfessor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Miles Morales is NOT Spider-Man. Peter Parker is Spider-Man. This is a true statement. The same way that Bruce Wayne is Batman and nobody will ever truly take on that mantle in the same way. Most of the people that I speak to in person at comic book shops and game shops (in real life, and not on social media garbage) who believe this actually LIKE Miles Morales as a character, but simply don't like that he is just named Spider-Man when he could have been something like Spider-Lad or who knows what.

    • @CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
      @CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS ปีที่แล้ว

      Miles is spider-man, "Spider-Man" is a mantel. Miles, miguel, peter, are just some who hold the mantel

    • @VideoGameProfessor
      @VideoGameProfessor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Fair point, and I respect it. Though if I may add, Miguel O'Hara is Spider-Man 2099 the same way Terry McGinnis is Batman Beyond. These two characters exist in a different time when the previous bearers of the mantle are retired or passed on. Miles existing at the same time as Peter is what throws it off. Two Spider-Men existing at the same time throws it off. Thus, the "Miles Morales is not Spider-Man" claim does have merit. It's less about disrespecting Miles, and more about showing the proper reverence to Peter at the one true bearer of the mantle in our current time.

  • @nishikantpanda8211
    @nishikantpanda8211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Seems all the differences you mentioned between the two are the results of the writers inability to potray Peter's friendly neighborhood side and keeping his character consistent throughout different iterations rather than him loosing focus on the little guys.

  • @Unity-Mack
    @Unity-Mack 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Miles is Spiderman, and so is Peter.