Triumph Daytona 660 - What you need to know about this entry level sportsbike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มี.ค. 2024
- Triumph’s throwing its hat into the middleweight sportsbike sector with its saucy, new Daytona 660. We headed over to Spain to give it a spin.
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So sick of people whining about the name. The daytona title has been used on a bunch of different bikes over the years so I dont understand this obsession with comparing it against the daytona 675.
Yeah, agreed. I owned a 2002 Daytona 955i and I still have a 2007 Daytona 675, (as well as '22 Street Triple RS). They are both excellent but different bikes with similar names.
But the D675 was so great it kind of overshadowed the Daytonas that came before it and became definitive of the name. And a lot of people aren't even old enough to really remember those older bikes.
The only issue I have with Triumph naming this bike Daytona is that it sets a certain expectation and invites exactly the comparison that annoys us. Time and sales will tell whether it was worth it.
Some of the complainers are just keyboard posers. Where were all these folks when the 675 had to be cancelled because of low sales?
I agree. It’s just a name. If someone asks what bike you have, just say daytona 675 and everyone will know
Totally agree, get over it. It’s a new, decent spec bike for modern day riding.
Lolall most people do espesially on the internet is whine
Honestly with all the screaming about ~the name~, if this bike came out last year id own one today. I test rode a Trident and literally thought "if this had fairings and 15 horsepower it would be perfect for me. I was coming from a 1995 CBR 600 F3 and basically just wanted that, but new. I wound up with a Street Triple 765RS, and love it, but its a significantly more expensive machine. This thing looks like a beast at its price point and in its class.
Thanks for your perspective. I’m looking for something to replace my stolen cbr600F2. Think this will be perfect. Can’t wait to test ride one
@@DaCicatrice we still have our 1991 F2. The main difference is the non adjustable suspension. My F3 I could change the fork settings. On paper this is slightly heavier but with a stronger mid range. I'll bet it moves!
Why hate on the bike just because it's called a Daytona? It's a Daytona that will sell. It will hopefully encourage new people into the sportsbike market, priced to compete against the other 'soft' sportsbikes.
Because they made the Daytona a soft sport bike. Why didn’t they just throw fairings on a street triple r for around $11000? Think it won’t sell? Look at the aprilia rs 660. That thing is selling even with issues
Not for the track, but on the street, yeah plenty to like at this price. 👍
Just the engine sound makes it worth buying over parallel twins which, lets face it, sound like tractor motors
Maybe but a twin imo is the best street engine. I own a tuono v4rr and a street triple r but I like my v twin.
Exactly, just doesnt suit
The funny thing is that almost every review mentions the Tridents harsh suspension, and then Triumph goes around and makes the sporty variant mushy in the suspension instead 😅 maybe they should have done it the other way around
I've tested ridden this bike and it's a great bike for road use. It's plenty quick enough, handles beautifully. If I didn't have 2 x 1980s 600s already I'd buy one. Lovely to ride. Not the most exciting in the style dept but it's not a bad looking bike. A decent looking exhaust and you'd have a great machine.
Can’t wait for the group test!
This is in the tradition of the first Daytona; which was simply a T100 with twin carbs, hotter "Q" cams and a close ratio trans which made a T100R with Daytona decals. Bet it dose well against other 10k entry level sports bikes. However, a true replacement for the wonderful 675 would be great to see!
What hurts more is that they literally already did that with the Daytona moto2 but they just won’t mainstream it.
@@CorBor69 its because they didnt sell well. There are still half a dozen of them severly discounted at dealers in the US, and we only got a portion of the 765 units made
@@CorBor69because there's no place for such a bike in the line up.
The Street Triple RS is already nearly perfect, just slapping on cheap plastic fairings on it call it Daytona765 and ask for a 10% markup would make it an extremely poor buy. You then have no choice but to start making it better than the Street Triple RS with even higher quality parts (better front suspension, better exhaust for more horses to compensate for the extra weight, retune the engine for a bit more omph, then top it all off and use carbon fibre to reduce the weight of the fairings etc) so people don't feel the fairing version is just bloat bolted on the bike and tick all the performance boxes, except that comes at a such a high cost that it pushed the Daytona Moto 2 near litre class sports bike, which means those who says they want a fast sports bike are then easily tempted to just go "all out" and buy a litre bike and have that "need for speed" itch completely scratched. That's why a Daytona 765 can't exist - it makes absolutely no business sense.
@@nanaholic01 I can still hope and dream
These kind of bikes make me think a 2009 675 Street Triple R would blow the kids minds. If you want a sit up and comfy type machine, why not get a naked based on a sporty chassis?
"Really Plush" - Hold my beer says Speed Triple 1200 RS
Nice honest review. A little disappointing maybe but not a deal breaker as a new rear shock & some fork cartridges & it'd be perfect. Although think I prefer the GSX8R for the type of road riding I do. Unless you're dead set on a Triumph &/or Triple, the extra cost of the suspension upgrades means you could buy an RS660 or even get very near a new CBR600.
Yeah this bike doesn’t make sense. Also the Suzuki can compete in the twins cup. The Suzuki is overweight and underpowered but I love a good twin engine
@@ryanoliver-vi9gm I totally agree about the Suzuki on paper. Although while it's nothing special, the numbers do it no justice & it's surprisingly good. Plus you can't ride a spec sheet. ; )
I wouldn't be surprised if having both LCD and TFT screens is more expensive than just a bigger TFT. They probably just have separate screens for marketing the more expensive bikes.
Very constructive review, thank you, im seriously considering traing my vfr800 vtec to get one of these. I think if this bike was aimed for track or more experienced riders with high end components it would of cost £15k! And for someone like me who passed their test couple of years ago, it would be too much money to spend on something that i use as a toy on sundays also i dont think i would be able to tell the difference, as an enrty level sports bike with triple engine and with nice design for £8.5k i think triump will sell lots of these bikes.
Sold my moto2 765 after reliability issues and the bike less fun than the 675. I hope this is fun, as 600s should be. What I need to do is get my 675 back. Thanks for the insight.
At least it should have a large tank from tiger 660 for range
People keep talking about the suspension but also that it uses similar (or in some cases the same) suspension as everything else in the sector. Does that mean I'm going to experience the same feeling on the GSX-8R, CBR-650R, R7 or RS660? Like does this bike have a noticeably worse suspension than those bikes or is it pretty standard feeling for the category?
I've got an SV650 and I'm looking to swap it out for something a bit sportier and this was on my short list. But all the talk about suspension, am I going to be disappointed? My guess is no since 90% of my riding is in a city with the occasional highway and curvy road on the weekend.
Quick trip to MCT for suspension overhaul?
If sorting the suspension and adding the quick shifter brings the price close to that of the Aprilia 660's, wouldn't buying the Aprilia make more sense?
I agree, wheels have some great deals
i want to see a racing class that revolve around the r7 rs660 trident 660 and the cbr650r
It won’t. The twins class is the fastest growing which is why most are going twin engine to be in the class. Cbr650r is the same way why? Mark my word next year Honda will make a cbr750 r twin
Maybe lower the front (raise the forks) a bit to put more load up front?
Easier to add rear preload
As a motorcycle (from the way you describe it), it's unfinished- incomplete. There's a lot of conflicting data: great engine, under-sprung/damped at the rear (no adjustment o/ than pre-load), too soft front (no adjustment), functional dash w/o too many e-gadgets, good fit & finish (other than budget) & $8,600.00 Hmmm, soup/sandwich? I think Triumph needs to be with this creation (it lacks the Triumph plushness/connected to the road feel) & once tweaked- it will be the new Street Triple RS for a great price, right?
The name of a bike always refers to its previous models and that's why people have a beef with the Daytona name, so why didn't Triumph just call it the "Trident RR"? Knowing that it comes from that model?
The only reason this new middle-weight type of bike exists is due to european emission regulations. They are saturating the market with average looking/performing bikes and I’m not here for it.
they should have given the dash of 765
That is the dash of the 765, just not the dash of the 765 RS which is $3,000 more.
@@justin2956 DAYTONA 765 R
Amazing roads in Alicante ❤
This ‘Daytona’ and its rivals are not sports bikes! This is the issue with these machines and the journalists
They are sport bikes. The 600cc class are super sports. These are standard sports…
Too heavy, no underseat exhaust!
Need a full TFT screen.
From daytona 675 to 660. Why Triumph? You guys on moto2 since when... but did not take advantage of oncoming new fans who wanted sportsbike with same 765cc matching moto2 counterparts. I dont get it, why the downgrade?
Because they can't make the 765 into an A2 compatible bike which massively limits the customer base who could purchase it.
They did make a Daytona 765 moto2, and it didnt sell well. There's a bunch of them in US dealers heavily discounted still.
Where are all these people buying Daytona 765's? Everybody wants a Daytona 765, but who actually has one in their garage?
Price is the #1 reason they arent selling. Anyone looking for a sport bike these days are going sub-$10k on the used market. Triumph filled that price gap with this Daytona
Are you saying a Daytona 765 at say $11000 wouldn’t sell? Triumph made them limited edition and the price was insane. How is it Aprilia can sell an rs660 at $11300 but triumph can’t? Now you can find them but a year ago you were waiting for an rs660.
@@ryanoliver-vi9gm a Daytona 765 would sell well at $11,000 but that’s a fantasy. The striple rs is over $12,000 which means a Daytona based off of it would push it to at least $14,000 which wouldn’t sell well at all.
Why triumph killed daytona 😢
Who killed the Daytona? All of the customers that didnt buy them.
The market is partially consumer driven. Nobody is buying 130hp sport bikes anymore. They made a Daytona 765 moto2 and theres still some sitting in dealers heavily discounted
@@NicePantsLance 765 never entered Indian market.
660 looks promising
Yeah look at the price of them. I agree the super sport market is dead but they could’ve thrown fairings on an r model for $10500 and sold lien crazy
That is not a sportsbike, its a sit-up-and beg daily rider with sportsbike fairings and a little more power. Sportsbikes have clip-ons and adjustable suspensions. Shame on Triumph for this sham sportsbike.
Sir there has been 2 categories for sports bikes since the 90s maybe a little b4 even think of Hondas f4i, Kawasaki zx600d and Suzuki gsx600f katanas as sports bikes than you have super sports zx6r, R6, cbr600RR and so on this is a sports bike not a super sport
Some of us want something that looks and sounds good that we can ride longer than a half hour at a time
No, its not a sports bike. Oh goody oh boy. Its a bike I would recommend as a 1st entry into street riding for my 16 yr. old daughter. Aw screw it, Id just get her a used GSXR600. Triumph.....what is it ? around 10 grand ?. What a joke. Bye bye Triumph. Crazy Bruce come off it. As Mr. Editor John Ulrich used to say....stop the mindless cheerleading. Was it a pretty posh press junket ?.
@@Slayer66037exactly, the f4i was immensly popular because real world people (the majority) don’t want to break their wrists and back just for 25hp more
@@P.DuncanMonkso what you're saying is anyone looking for a sport bike is going to get a cheap japanese bike on the used market??
That's exactly why the sport bike scene died dude!! 🤦♂️ nobody is buying brand new 130hp sport bikes anymore. They're all $10k+ brand new. You literally just explained why all these manufacturers are making sub-100hp sport bikes now.
Suzuki Gsx8r, Honda Cbr650r, Kawasaki Ninja650, Yamaha R7, and Aprilia 660....there's an entire market for these already and this Daytona 660 may arguably be 2nd best only to the Aprilia.
Once I heard 90bhp at around 1min 40secs of vid I turned off. This is no supersport
The horsepower specs have been released for weeks now. It's made to compete with the Yamaha R7, Aprilia 660, Suzuki GSX8R, and Honda CBR650R.
Whether its for you or not, the sub-100hp sport bike market is alive and well apparently. Not for me either, but it has to be doing well for there to be an entire market of them
Well the twin class is growing. The triple and the cbr650r make no sense. Honda will switch to a cbr750r twin next year