Love your videos bro keep up the good work. Just a small rant unrelated to you: I like how we are getting various new buttons and or Fightstick levers, but where are the "New" Fightsticks for 2021/2022?! Why have we not seen numerous new fightsticks especially for next gen consoles? Just curious.
Throw distance does not mean when the button activates, that would be engage distance. Throw distance is how deep the button can be pressed, and do to it being a spring activation, it probably needs that extra space. It probably also returns to its unactivated state faster due to this.
100% agree with your review. I've been using a set of gravity buttons and they are close, but not quite there. They have a slight squishy feel and the 1.5mm vs 1.2mm difference from Crown 202s is noticeable. They are super quiet tho, for streaming they almost never pick up on my mic.
I would personally recommend Crown 202s. You can use Cherry MX switches and various other keyboard switches with them. I swap out the stock silvers for Cherry MX Blacks. The customizable options make the 202s > Gravity buttons. That's my honest recommendation. I think the gravity buttons are worth checking out but like I said I think 202s are better.
@@nickryan2847 I have tried both. I like both, but I still stand by the 202s being better in my opinion. Everyone has different wants and needs though. Now that the price of gravity buttons has dropped from $6 to $4 they're worth checking out in my opinion. I only tried the gravity buttons with the linear switches but I have honestly heard nothing positive about the tactical switches. Everyone has their own preferences though so what is best for you may not be best for me.
I have the 202, they're prerry amazing buttons and feel premium however what bothers me is that these have a 1.2mm Actuation while the Sanwas only 0.85mm to register the input which means the Sanwas are still faster buttons.
For clarity this button has been updated. Qanba now says the throw distance is only .8 mm and the force required is now only 45 grams, and you can get it as a snap in. So this review may no longer reflect what you are going to get if you buy these today.
This was a very indepth review. I'm currently doing research for my first fight stick build, so this video was very educational in what I can look for in buttons.
I can see why the top of the button being easily removable doesn't inspire confidence. But if you ask me that's not really a big deal. If anything that's a plus, makes it easier to mix match the colours
I had actually ordered some a while back to try out. They’re pretty good in my opinion, not really enough to replace any keyboard buttons you may be using, but a decent alternative if there aren’t any available for purchase, considering crowns were sold out until recently, obs-mx are still sold out and GF are kinda MIA. I would still say they’re better than crowns if you’re looking for a silent buttons.
I like how you tested the travel. Would have been cool if you had something in the background which shows continous contact though. I would like to see when the contact stops upon releasing the button. I also searches for the Kalih Low Profile switches, but I can't find any arcade buttons using them (only 3d printed ones). Do these actually exist?
Super interesting stuff, these are actually the exact same switch as the Romer G that logitech had Omron make for them about 5 years ago. The Logitech G810 was one of the first keyboards to feature it. It's original intention was to prevent RGB bleed from light on the mx switches that it was trying to replace. As a gaming switch, it was lackluster, and it was a pretty poor typing experience. Upon first inspection, I do not have a huge amount of faith in this button. It is basically a nothing switch that is bad at everything. It's still probably the best gamerfinger alternative, but its at best a sidestep rather than a shift forward from sanwa. It is likely a step back.
The crown 202s are great, but don’t try to change the plungers or switches in the 24mm metallic series, the tabs snap easily in this specific series, but they are great straight out of the box if your cool with cherry Mx speed silver switches
Omron switch is 100 times more stable than the standard cross hair mx switch. Omron Switch lubed with Kryo G205 lube (lubing the switch makes is insanely, quiet and smooth) + the foam silencers is the best button I've ever used. Never had any issues with the cap popping off. Maybe slower by technicality but I've never noticed any during game play as someone who's been playing for 4 years. Will never use another arcade button, everything feels like garbage in comparison.
Hey Mr. Sujano. Love your videos, I've been subbed to you for your hardware reviews. I wanted to ask, comparing Crowns, Gravity and Gamerfinger; which would you say is better? In terms of it being a linear switch but with a good enough tactile feedbavk to them. Thank you.
Last time I checked they only have a 30mm option. I prefer crown buttons for the responsiveness and short throw distance. However a 24mm option for the gravity might be ok for a travel stick given that I wouldnt mind the longer throw distance when just messing around in training mode on a lunch break and the additional presses means it would last longer. The ease of the plunger coming off is bad though it does mean cleaning the button without opening the stick could be a plus.
Love these buttons. Did run into an issue where one of the buttons plungers would not stay in at all. Ordering 2 new ones as a replacement and spare, hopefully I don't run into the same problem
I'm in love with these buttons. They have a new white switch that has a "bump", add in those pads and you really cannot go wrong here. Big fan. Also liking the high tension Sanwa switches. The crown 202s are great too. But I enjoy how quiet the gravity buttons are.
I have full set of the paradise arcade shop DIY cherry MX buttons in 2 sticks. I refuse to use the Sanwa switches and as such have a nice collection of brand new Sanwa microswitches. 😅
I wonder if anyone has tried lubing pushbutton switches like you would with keyboard switches. Modding a fightstick for sound dampening and buttery smooth fee like with mechanichal keyboards in general
That is a Romer-G switch straight up, same as Logitech uses in their keyboards. And since that switch is designed for lighting... I'm just never gonna care about it. Not my bag baby.
These omron switches were used by logitech keyboard and had great stability because of the spread support, but S**T durability, I had a keyboard sent to warranty twice for failing switches, and after the second exchange the model was discontinued in favor of an mx style version
Main concern for the video is, how can you have a "best button?" Comparison video, and not include crown 202s at all??? That's kind of crazy. But between the plunger cap connection to the stem, and the fact that you cant put in cherry MX's in them, it's 3rd or 4th tier option at the very best.
I never said they were the best! I didn't include Crowns as it wasn't a microswitch showdown, just an overview of the Gravity. I'll compare them to Crowns in another video :)
@@MrSujano oh no, I didn't mean you suggested they were the best. I didn't type it out clearly. I meant, if we have an "is this the best button? - Side by side with other buttons" type video, I feel like crowns should 100% make an appearance, if that makes sense. It's like if we had, "Aprilia rsv4, is it the best Italian super vehicle you can get?" And we mentioned in comparison Ducati and Ferrari, but just didn't mention Lamborghini as a product at all. It's like wait, what? Arguably its main competition isn't even mentioned? Just seems odd. -that said, don't take this as me shitting on the vid, it presented a ton a great info. That was just something that jumped out to me is all.
dont like me cherry mx , the feel istn similar to arcade button its very loose , qanba gravity its more stability on touch , the travel isnt important 1.50 to 1.20
I have a whole lot of gravity and they used to be my favorite but the caps have recently started to come off and there for I would not recommend these to anyone
If they are using Omron switches I highly doubt they'll last anywhere near 70mil activations. Omron is the standard brand for gaming mice, and they are very known for becoming faulty and giving double/triple clicks after only a year or two. Here's hoping Quanba decide to make the change from Omron in future and go with Kailh or some other notable micro switch in future.
i chose these for a neogeo i think i prefer the longer throw distance , i have sanwa and seimitsu in other setups and im clumsy with accidentals, more so on the sanwa
If you're interested in them, I do recommend ordering a few and giving them a try!
Love your videos bro keep up the good work. Just a small rant unrelated to you: I like how we are getting various new buttons and or Fightstick levers, but where are the "New" Fightsticks for 2021/2022?! Why have we not seen numerous new fightsticks especially for next gen consoles? Just curious.
Throw distance does not mean when the button activates, that would be engage distance. Throw distance is how deep the button can be pressed, and do to it being a spring activation, it probably needs that extra space. It probably also returns to its unactivated state faster due to this.
100% agree with your review. I've been using a set of gravity buttons and they are close, but not quite there. They have a slight squishy feel and the 1.5mm vs 1.2mm difference from Crown 202s is noticeable. They are super quiet tho, for streaming they almost never pick up on my mic.
I would personally recommend Crown 202s. You can use Cherry MX switches and various other keyboard switches with them. I swap out the stock silvers for Cherry MX Blacks. The customizable options make the 202s > Gravity buttons. That's my honest recommendation. I think the gravity buttons are worth checking out but like I said I think 202s are better.
Have you tried the gravity? if not then I’m not sure how this opinion is valid if you haven’t even A n B but thanks any ways
@@nickryan2847 I have tried both. I like both, but I still stand by the 202s being better in my opinion. Everyone has different wants and needs though. Now that the price of gravity buttons has dropped from $6 to $4 they're worth checking out in my opinion. I only tried the gravity buttons with the linear switches but I have honestly heard nothing positive about the tactical switches. Everyone has their own preferences though so what is best for you may not be best for me.
@@nickryan2847 bruh wut? Lmao
I have the 202, they're prerry amazing buttons and feel premium however what bothers me is that these have a 1.2mm Actuation while the Sanwas only 0.85mm to register the input which means the Sanwas are still faster buttons.
Crown 202s ? Tried but bad plastic and then bad sound i tried 10 different switch. New Seimitsu are better i think.
I wanna see you do a review of the Crown SDB-202 buttons!
For clarity this button has been updated. Qanba now says the throw distance is only .8 mm and the force required is now only 45 grams, and you can get it as a snap in. So this review may no longer reflect what you are going to get if you buy these today.
Since when ?
This was a very indepth review. I'm currently doing research for my first fight stick build, so this video was very educational in what I can look for in buttons.
Currently have them on my fightstick and these are my new favorite buttons now!
I tested the Gravity buttons for 70 million activations. My findings were that I died
Those Omron switches look exactly like Logitech's Romer-G switches.
I can see why the top of the button being easily removable doesn't inspire confidence. But if you ask me that's not really a big deal. If anything that's a plus, makes it easier to mix match the colours
I had actually ordered some a while back to try out. They’re pretty good in my opinion, not really enough to replace any keyboard buttons you may be using, but a decent alternative if there aren’t any available for purchase, considering crowns were sold out until recently, obs-mx are still sold out and GF are kinda MIA. I would still say they’re better than crowns if you’re looking for a silent buttons.
I like how you tested the travel. Would have been cool if you had something in the background which shows continous contact though. I would like to see when the contact stops upon releasing the button. I also searches for the Kalih Low Profile switches, but I can't find any arcade buttons using them (only 3d printed ones). Do these actually exist?
I have a set that I got about 3 months ago, 100% my favorite new button
Super interesting stuff, these are actually the exact same switch as the Romer G that logitech had Omron make for them about 5 years ago. The Logitech G810 was one of the first keyboards to feature it. It's original intention was to prevent RGB bleed from light on the mx switches that it was trying to replace. As a gaming switch, it was lackluster, and it was a pretty poor typing experience. Upon first inspection, I do not have a huge amount of faith in this button. It is basically a nothing switch that is bad at everything. It's still probably the best gamerfinger alternative, but its at best a sidestep rather than a shift forward from sanwa. It is likely a step back.
The crown 202s are great, but don’t try to change the plungers or switches in the 24mm metallic series, the tabs snap easily in this specific series, but they are great straight out of the box if your cool with cherry Mx speed silver switches
Hey by any chance do you know if the gravity buttons will clear the PCB board on a Qanba Pearl fight stick?
how did you manage to remove the switch from the housing?
do you know if sanwa concave cap fit on an QANBA push button?
Thanks! Pls do a review of punk workshop buttons
I got a Qanba pearl are these buttons compatible?
Are these the KS version?
Any suggestion for something better or equivalent to them ??? I dont like these ones , they keep failing on me.....
Omron switch is 100 times more stable than the standard cross hair mx switch. Omron Switch lubed with Kryo G205 lube (lubing the switch makes is insanely, quiet and smooth) + the foam silencers is the best button I've ever used. Never had any issues with the cap popping off. Maybe slower by technicality but I've never noticed any during game play as someone who's been playing for 4 years. Will never use another arcade button, everything feels like garbage in comparison.
Hey Mr. Sujano. Love your videos, I've been subbed to you for your hardware reviews. I wanted to ask, comparing Crowns, Gravity and Gamerfinger; which would you say is better? In terms of it being a linear switch but with a good enough tactile feedbavk to them. Thank you.
Can this be modded ? Can I used the qanba crystal led pbc and install it ? I want to keep the led
Great new intro!
Last time I checked they only have a 30mm option. I prefer crown buttons for the responsiveness and short throw distance. However a 24mm option for the gravity might be ok for a travel stick given that I wouldnt mind the longer throw distance when just messing around in training mode on a lunch break and the additional presses means it would last longer. The ease of the plunger coming off is bad though it does mean cleaning the button without opening the stick could be a plus.
What is the best quiet button to get these days in terms of quality / price? Is it still these Quanta buttons?
Love these buttons. Did run into an issue where one of the buttons plungers would not stay in at all. Ordering 2 new ones as a replacement and spare, hopefully I don't run into the same problem
Sorry for my stupid question. How do you silenced the gravity buttons?
Silencer foam pads
Any idea where I could get gamer finger buttons?
Gamerfingers are MIA
You're not going to notice 1.2mm throw vs 1.5mm throw difference. Just use what buttons are most comfortable for you
Gravity KS is very good and premium button
i did buy these out of curiosity, they're not bad but they could be better, although I'd probably prefer crowns 202 and gamerfinger buttons
I wonder why no one has made snap in versions of these mx fightstick buttons.
I'm in love with these buttons. They have a new white switch that has a "bump", add in those pads and you really cannot go wrong here. Big fan.
Also liking the high tension Sanwa switches. The crown 202s are great too. But I enjoy how quiet the gravity buttons are.
I'm sticking with my Crown 202 with MX Speed Silver Switches then..
I have full set of the paradise arcade shop DIY cherry MX buttons in 2 sticks. I refuse to use the Sanwa switches and as such have a nice collection of brand new Sanwa microswitches. 😅
I wonder if anyone has tried lubing pushbutton switches like you would with keyboard switches. Modding a fightstick for sound dampening and buttery smooth fee like with mechanichal keyboards in general
I have, it works really well for sanwa switches but didn't notice much difference with these buttons
Looks like a Romer Switch.. for the Qanda switches
Best buttons Qanba 👍🏻
the tabs on those switch caps are prone to break.
Basically Seimitsu PS-14-GN Clones with modern switches. I bought one Qanba Gravity to try it out and it has too much plunger travel to my taste.
That is a Romer-G switch straight up, same as Logitech uses in their keyboards.
And since that switch is designed for lighting... I'm just never gonna care about it. Not my bag baby.
I hope the offer the tactile vr rather than buying the switches for them. at least they offer the tactile switches.
Damn nice beard
These omron switches were used by logitech keyboard and had great stability because of the spread support, but S**T durability, I had a keyboard sent to warranty twice for failing switches, and after the second exchange the model was discontinued in favor of an mx style version
I had these Romer-G switches for 4+ years and they were rock solid. None failed on me.
Main concern for the video is, how can you have a "best button?" Comparison video, and not include crown 202s at all??? That's kind of crazy. But between the plunger cap connection to the stem, and the fact that you cant put in cherry MX's in them, it's 3rd or 4th tier option at the very best.
I never said they were the best! I didn't include Crowns as it wasn't a microswitch showdown, just an overview of the Gravity. I'll compare them to Crowns in another video :)
@@MrSujano oh no, I didn't mean you suggested they were the best. I didn't type it out clearly. I meant, if we have an "is this the best button? - Side by side with other buttons" type video, I feel like crowns should 100% make an appearance, if that makes sense. It's like if we had, "Aprilia rsv4, is it the best Italian super vehicle you can get?" And we mentioned in comparison Ducati and Ferrari, but just didn't mention Lamborghini as a product at all. It's like wait, what? Arguably its main competition isn't even mentioned? Just seems odd. -that said, don't take this as me shitting on the vid, it presented a ton a great info. That was just something that jumped out to me is all.
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The switches look like Logitechs in house keyboard switches
dont like me cherry mx , the feel istn similar to arcade button its very loose , qanba gravity its more stability on touch , the travel isnt important 1.50 to 1.20
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look out sanwa
I have a whole lot of gravity and they used to be my favorite but the caps have recently started to come off and there for I would not recommend these to anyone
Well time to remove those arcade sticks on old arcade machines then 😂 for free
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So instead of using traditional mechanical cross switches they used the universally hated Logitech G switches......
Why does people say/write "semitsu"?.
If they are using Omron switches I highly doubt they'll last anywhere near 70mil activations. Omron is the standard brand for gaming mice, and they are very known for becoming faulty and giving double/triple clicks after only a year or two. Here's hoping Quanba decide to make the change from Omron in future and go with Kailh or some other notable micro switch in future.
i chose these for a neogeo
i think i prefer the longer throw distance , i have sanwa and seimitsu in other setups and im clumsy with accidentals, more so on the sanwa