*Explore MotorInc memberships at* youtube.com/@motorinc/join *Chapters* 00:00 Price Is Right 03:20 Value Of Value For Money 04:00 Parts Bin Motorcycle 06:35 What's New 09:20 Performance 13:35 Corners & Comfort 16:28 Brakes 17:00 Traction Control 17:40 Seating Position 18:39 New Instruments 19:35 Refuel 20:35 Tyres 21:25 UI/UX Issues 26:09 Vibration 28:30 Fuelling Issues 29:41 400cc Strategy 32:09 Match Your Tyres 33:04 Design 35:38 The Gentle 400 38:35 Pricing 40:02 Your First Motorcycle 40:50 Quick Summary 48:39 Premium Experience 52:03 Closing Comments
@@THUGPUTIN I agree with the RE 650 part. But how are the Duke's 399cc, Triumph's 399cc (chain-sprocket on right side) and Dominar/Pulsar's 373cc similar? Care to explain?
The 20BHP OG 2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi was priced at 82,800. Adjusted for 6% inflation for 17 Years, the amount is equivalent to Rs.2,18,800. The launch price of the Pulsar NS400Z is Rs.33.8k lower than the inflation adjusted price of the 20BHP flagship Pulsar of 2007.
Yea, but that's not the point.. What is the actual point of having a 400cc bike that is meant to be a commuter, that looks like a 200cc bike , yet will return only 28km/L ?
@@VeganSanatani It costs roughly the same as the Gixxer 250 / MT15 / Honda CB300F / Classic 350 / Karizma XMR / Duke 200 / RC 125. Given the performance, this is definitely a lot more exciting than these *similarly priced bikes*. It also gets bragging rights. You have a 400, not a 350 that 20k+ people get every month.
Oh My God. Seriously. This is sheer eye opening session. I thought, me as a Rider need to just know and care about the bike and that only but it is not the case anymore. I seriously can't go back to any other basic review of a motorcycle at all. You folks have not only changed the bike/car game but you took the bloody format and burnt it crisp. I really really am surprised at how much i have learned about the automotive industry. I am seriously thinking and suggesting shumi and kartik to start a masterclass in how to do motorjournalism and if you do so, let me be the first candidate. Literally speechless on the sheer breakdown of the bike and industry by large.
+1, I agree, all these reviewers are just clones of each other, for ex, power drift, bikewaale, zigwheels etc. they all feel the same but motor inc is something else entirely. Screw the numbers, these guys are the benchmark for motorcycle reviews.
@@motorinc sir request you to please release content in hindi too. Your knowledge about automotive is so deep. But in indian viewvership hindi is major language. So please create/ release content in hindi language too. Great work
My cousins' friends and me were talking about this bike and he said that the price is very low and i told him that is because most of the part are recycled. He asked me if i watched motornic because i was criticising the bike , i told him that if we as buyers keep expecting less from the brands , change will never happen ❤
Business doesn't work like you thought. Re-using parts is a great strategy. You shouldn't criticise only because the price is kept low, bring real points. As far as I see, a lot of young and entry level riders will enjoy this bike. What's your issue?
@@AayushKarwatkar i have a big problem at all , it's just the people label that it's 'cheap' whenever someone tells them about the problems about the bike .
9/10 for the quick summary. I liked the phrase where shumi said, the moment you buy a motorcycle and bring it home the value for money factor goes out the window
@@VarunGoud07 doesn't matter. the moment you start dailying a bike and you don't enjoy it, you'd absolutely regret every penny you spent and hate yourself for not spending that extra money. Hence, vfm doesn't matter even if it feel like it does.
I don't even have a motorcycle.. it's a dream I'm still waiting to live and yet I watch all these hour long conversations about bikes (and cars too sometimes). Shumi and Kartikeya, you guys have brought out this thing in me which even I didn't know existed.. Thanks to the whole Motorinc team.. it's your format, presentation, scripting and that editor, yll pulled me into this world of automobile. Today I don't even own a single vehicle and yet somehow I'm so fond of them and the credit goes to you guys. I really hope one day I'll be able to meet Shumi and Kartikeya.. spend some time with you people and learn even more. Thank you guys
I don't get why a lot of us Indians keep putting people on pedestals. Shumi & K are great journalists but calling him "lord shumi" is the same energy as "bts army". And even more embarrassing when grown ass adults do this.
I still remember that crazy pulsar 200 DTSi ad shot in a street. Pulsar meant something else back then. It was aspirational. Wat an era it was, we had Pulsar, Karizma and Apache. 😍 🔥
@@motorinc yeah I could feel that throughout the conversation. But I guess that shows the overall state of what the brand Bajaj has in the market. They need to start focusing on their own portfolio rather than rely on other brands. Having owned the first RS200 I know that I was looking forward for a more powerful 400cc bike in that range but that never happened.
“Definitely mild, not daring.” This is something that now all Bajaj products have turned into. I feel they should start to venture with KTM for twin-cylinders on budget if they really want to bring that spark of excitement of the old days. And as usual summary is just on point 10/10.
I think Bajaj is doing this deliberately so they don't eat into sales of aggressive premium bikes of ktm and truimph a well. They’ve accepted their position of mass market product only appealing to non-passionate buyers through price, who looks forward to talk about the bike to their relatives rather than enjoy and ride it. Just on point for Bajaj!
I just realized something! I don't need to see the bike going around the track or anything! I can just listen to these videos, think of them as podcasts, and they cover everything a person wants to know about a new bike!! Great job, y'all!
The best thing about NS200 and RS200 were that their performance was close to their KTM cousins Duke 200 and RC 200. NS400Z doesn't seem to that kind of a bike which can compete with Duke 390. Bajaj should have at least used Gen2 43Bhp engine and cut some unwanted crap like riding modes. If there is another variant of NS400 coming as per rumours, then that should be an aggressive looking and aggressive performing machine
exactly my thought!had same expectation that it would be a bargain duke 390 gen 2 performance,i wont hesitate installing an aftermarket ECU or atleast remap stock ECU for punchier performance
The way Shumi Defined Value for money actually fits for almost every purchase decision 😎😎 You gotta love the product first and then consider it's value for money but sadly most people look the other way around.
i think what Shumi is missing that it is for the people who lacks the budget to buy a duke 390 or any costlier motorcycle, but what it offers against 1.85 lacs is super great and it can be recommended to anyone who wants a bike in this budget segment, period.
Bhai 400cc motorcycle performance enjoy karne ke liye lete hain & shumi said take a test ride & if u love riding it then only purchase & not because it is priced low
Or someone wanting bigger bike for cruising comfortable and overtaking on the faster roads now with decent handling etc. Reliability and comfort and it will sounds good. No where to push a bike round corner here.
i respect shumi a lot , but in this particular case he was making it very hard to understand, that's it, that's why I added this comment as a bottom line
But if you are looking a bike for Indian scenario than buy a 150 cc to 250 cc bike. why do you need a 400cc bike that looks like a 200cc bike, made to be a commuter bike and will cost you more money on fuel..?
Because I have ridden dominar 400 in highway and it was wonderful,and that engine is reliable. No 200 or 250 cc match that in highway. And this ns 400 is not a replacement for ktm 390 or MT03,This bike is for those who want a excellent bike in a price range of 2lakh.
@@shuvankarroy7275 I owned dominar and also Suzuki 250. But Dominar is worst when the speed is less than 70kmph. Suzuki had very smooth engine, very good in both low speed and high speed. I could cruise all the day above 100kmph with a butter smooth SOCS Engine which does not fry my legs.
I posted a comment on some video of yours that I will buy your membership the day you post a review for the pulsar400z and you posted the review and I bought your membership, good trade. great review.
my brother brought an ns400Z on 13th may, after riding it for a month or so he also thought it was sluggish and lacked the punch in lower end. We decided to got some mods done to the bike like 1. replacing the tires, we went for Michelin Pilot series as it was in our budget 2. replaced fuel filters , as a result the milage has been reduced a little bit . 3. also added an POWERTRONIC ECU and kept the stock muffler tho we get quite a bit low rpm jerks thanks to that
@@motorinc The bikes overall performance has gotten really good we had to adjust the rare suspension to the hardest settings to get the best high speed performance , the engine no doesn't feel sluggish in sports mode and it actually feels sporty as it should be we faced a few problems too , like the milage dropped by 8-9 kmpl and the low rpm jerks while riding above 3rd gear increased exponentially. overall the bike has become Really enjoyable compared to the Stock hope this helps ❤️🩹
@@bestcocbaseswithlink5069 we used to get around 25-27 kmph while riding hard in the city , if you have prior experience of riding lets say an 125cc bike then yes it will feel like an substantial upgrade but not in terms of quality , if you compare it to my scrambler 400x i does not hold a candle, if not i would recommend R15 or MT15 they are amazing motorcycles in this price point of NS400z . They may seem underwhelming on the spec sheet but you will be in love after test riding them. have a nice day
If i had a shot everytime shumi took a shot at the dominar, i would drink enough to forget that i own one and i really really like it and then i would join him in accepting the flaws of that bike :-)
Although i still enjoy these 2 going about trying to give us all the information, i think there is a bit of disconnect with what the positioning of the bike / target audience is. The price is a big give-away on this front. Its basically a typical pulsar i.e. a sporty looking commuter. It is basically targeted at people who are maturing from a 150-200. So a right comparison for this would ideally be a Duke 250 and not a 390 and thats why when Shumi says its a good 250 not a 400 i think he is bang on. The marketing team from Bajaj would be blessed if they watched this and decided who their target audience is.
I am slowly starting to get why some folks on r/indianbikes have, let's say, not ideal takes on motorinc lol. On the other hand, I love this channel, deep nerdy discussion about motorcycles from people I know that are well experienced and aren't just bluffing
@@confused.cat. i know right ... iI love the fact that they give their opinion, that's why i am here for .. i am not experienced so, They also says all bikes are good for different people. Dominar is not predominantly bad ... but. Dmm i testrided one .. and the power is good but it's heavy as fuc.
@@arthurkenfleck-vf5nb i dont think so .. the ns200 review was on point and old n250 has quite a good review .. just thik about it there are a lot of bikes with soo less to differentiate
Kartik's expressions were priceless. We can have a compilation of kartik's expression. hahaha! And yeah, as everyone is also saying, the value for money 400cc, feels a bit odd to me. I think a customer buying a 400cc motorcycle, looks for a reasonable price with awesome experience rather than "this is the cheapest 400cc there is".
I recently bought a Duke 390,still hasn't received it from the showroom..will get it soon.After the NS 400 prices came out I was wondering should I have waited a little longer for a test ride..but after Your review I guess I made the right purchase...
You are delusional to compare two bikes in very different segments/category. If you are confused in between a Duke 390 or pulsar ns400z then you don't know what you really want lol. You should understand yourself better.
Naah duke 390 is the one if you've made all those arrangements already. The new 390 is so good Aprilla and Kawasaki had to do new 450cc engines to compete globally.
I think the gentle Sports map is implemented because Bajaj were looking for reliability to make the engine last longer than usual. Keeping in mind that the average commuter won't be as particular about maintaining the service intervals, maybe?
Man, what a clear statement "Think of it as a powerful 250 rather than a weak 400". I think it was a very strong perception that the market had about this product, which it is perhaps but only when we get the price in the talks, which is not what a product should be at the end of the day, as "We don't ride value for money home". The product might end up doing great in sales and it could be great for those who really want the 400 tag today when a sporty 150cc comes around the same price. Great breakdown of the product, amazing insights of why the price is so well managed, and a clear perspective of what a customer should expect from this Bajaj. Also I do feel that Bajaj really needs to go all out with atleast one product in their lineup, with max performance and give it the best equipment, but again there is KTM for that and for a better feeling Bajaj we have the Triumph. All this is making Pulsar a commuter brand now rather than an enthusiasts choice. Another great Motorinc First, It's always great watching both of you. Also, Shumi having the MotorInc logo as his watch face is great!
The search for my next motorcycle continues, sigh. Here's the back story. I owned a Yamaha R15 v2 from 2014-2018, went abroad for 4 years and returned in 2022. While the new R15 is great, the riding position is too committed and now I'd like a more powerful bike. The CB300R is beautiful but feels too small, Speed 400, same thing, Scrambler 400X is great and probably the one that I've loved the most so far but the vibes beyond 6k RPM bothers me. I completely agree with Shumi's assessment of this character of the Triumph twins, it's so effortless below 6k but turns into a totally different motorcycle post 6k. Long stroke engines are too 'boring', maybe I'll like them in the future, one day. The Duke 390 is too manic, too aggressive. The Aprilia RS457 is lovely, but the riding position is still too committed. Maybe the Tuono if and when it comes would be the one for me? Time will tell. With the NS400, I probably expected more. I loved riding the BS4 NS200, a bigger more sophisticated version of the same with 90% of Triumph levels of quality was maybe too much to expect at this price point. 2 years in and the search continues. Maybe I'm just too picky 🤷🏻!
Thanks for sharing your take @VineetBhombare! It's not a light decision so take your time. If you haven't already, consider the new Himalayan? We think it might surprise you so take a test ride and see what you think.
@@motorinc The Himalayan is intriguing, I will take a test ride soon. Most of my riding would be in the city (Bengaluru), is it nimble enough for the city? Any opinions?
This was the most interesting 'First' ive watched. I feel like ive been short changed yet i dont feel cheated. I think Bajaj are on to something here. Theek hai, it doesnt behave like a Duke, and is much more mellow, buy theree no replacement for displacement and this really has democracised the power of that engine/displacement. And i really appreciate that. I understand that this seems like Bajaj is doing the Kawasaki thing, and showing a 'Ninja300' down the ignorant Indian consumer's throat, mut maybe theyre really onto something. I think Kawasaki would also do well to price their 300 lower, and form a new segment of sorts, where they compete with the Pulsar 400, Honda 300, Duke 250 ranges(including the race/adventure versions of these platforms if and when they come).
Hi @leakedzebra! Thanks for your take but Shumi believes that the Ninja 300 shouldn't even exist. It's a >10 year old motorcycle at this point. As for NS400Z, as they say, it definitely does have the potential to be a good bike but we're gonna have to see where they take it.
Sticker price warriors will love this as I loved my 1st gen Dominar which I got for 1.75L on road but after 4 years of owning it I grew tired of all the compromises in quality they had made and I developed hatred for bajaj products and I'm pretty sure this bike would be just the same. I've shifted my focus from buying anything just based on price to getting products with quality.
i have one question then, if milage is not an issue then what should i go for r15 mt15 gixxer 250 sf or the gixxer 250 or ns 400 , .. any other bike budget no more than 2.2 L non streachable ..i want a machine that will help me grow
Karthik and Sumi let bring your notice I have ridden Pulsar 150 DTS-i UG2 for 15 years and trust me guys the instant pickup and acceleration was at par and I am talking about the very next series just after the Hamara Bajaj Blue logo migrated to the metallic grey and with the mag wheels and at that time Hero Honda CBZ was very famous and making its origin very very famous that time we knocked with bang ❤️🌹
Most intelligent and intellectual conversation. This will be biggest channel in not only India but also in the world. I m hear from 12k subscribers but never comment this one is first. It's a pleasure to have you two in bike community❤…
One thing to note is that the people who have not ridden Ktm 390's etc might not even notice the gentleness of this bike. And we cannot ignore that many of us can buy this today, on cash, while we cannot buy Duke 390 even after a year or two.
Bajaj, at its core lineup of Pulsars especially, has positioned itself as the Zudio of motorcycles, ubiquitous and accessible to all, offering a taste of contemporary & bridge fashion to all, on two wheels. That's very good n all from a PnL & cx footfall perspective it keeps their bottom line revenue stable and flowing which allows them to reinvent, innovate and also push for premium/niche segments as well (KTM/Triumph) and strategically it makes 100% sense. And even though its not like they are losing their own identity but it surely is getting affected and hence, innovation, reinvention, etc. happens at the topline for Bajaj (evidently - KTM) Is the intent with the bike good? Atleast from where I stand - yes. Why? 1) Bajaj is enabling access to powerful and competent motorcycle for the masses who are eager and energetic to reach it. 2) By making the NS400Z a bit mellow they made sure that people look at this as a option in this price range as with a similar demeanor but a more capable motorcycle which would win the spec sheet battle for sure (for some people - which gives footfall - which gives revenue) 3) This gives Bajaj more latitude to explore and introduce variants which again will target the masses and keep the interests high. And Pulsars always were the Thrill for the masses. And Bajaj with their Triumph and KTM's are just doing that along with Pulsars and Dominars. 4) The pricing, feature set and part's sharing clearly suggests that it is meant and made to be a access enabler for the masses. So from a PnL, Strategy and Marketing perspective - everything is nice! The problem: 1) Lacking identity, being distinguishable or aspirational. 2) Lacking the zeal and zest of what the Pulsars initially were and even more so compared to the NS200 and/or KTM's 3) This "PnL" oriented strategy if not done right ... can result in a decline over the years in interest and aspiration - its already showing as except the NS200 (so far).. gone are the times when people discussed or got excited about Pulsars. (THEY DON'T EVEN FEATURE IN THE YT DRAG RACING COMMUNITY ANYMORE 🥲😜) But atleast, Bajaj has a solid topline to keep this going. KTM and now Triumph.
May be true @adrishmajumder9878 but those vehicles will be looked at as KTM and Triumph vehicles, not Bajaj's own. So, it's imperative that Bajaj realizes that and streamlines their offerings.
Ktm and triumph are ktm and triumph, they are not Bajaj, simply building sub 400 cc engines for their bikes don't mean ktm and triumph are Bajaj bikes, CF moto makes ktm's engines, don't mean people look at those bikes as CF moto. Aside from affordable commuters, Bajaj needs to make a good premium bike that looks premium. Look at CF moto, in recent years they have made a name for themselves in the western motorcycle market.
Great Video as Usual🤩🤩 1. I cannot digest the fact that a 400 is not aggressive. I do think a commuter can be aggressive. 2. I think manufacturers really need to focus on Instrument console designs. It should look modern but most importantly it should be user friendly and make life of a rider easy. It should feel like using an apple smartphone ( simple and easy to adapt ) rather than an android full of bloatware and ads. 3. Both of them should mention the routes they took on videos. It was a great touch. 4. Other media houses and TH-camrs have reviewed the NX 500, Transalp and 800 DE. Will be awesome The Motorinc ones of them. 5. Since ThisConnect is back, Can I expect Motorinc Garage videos soon ? Waiting for Shumi's Multi video. 6. And finally, This video was a great Birthday gift for me. Great work The Motorinc team and keep it up.
Happy birthday Sidarth! 1 and 2: Agreed! 3. Feedback noted! 4. NX500 dates awaited. The larger bikes were not convince that the current formats are good for larger, lifestyle machines - we're working on this, 5. Request noted 6. Once again, happy birthday!
Hello to all the MotorInc team 👋 Just wanted to thank you all because as a foreigner (not Indian) who married an Indian woman and who live in India, I finally found an Indian youtube channel in English that explains everything about the bikes that are actually in the Indian market with such professionalism. After living a few years in India with a car, I finally want to buy a bike because of the traffic and because it match my needs more than a car now. And it's so hard to choose in this new market for me without the help of someone who knows deeply about motorcycles. It will be my first motorcycle in my life, and your videos help me a lot to make my choice. Planning to buy probably in August. In other countries people buy bikes just as an extra vehicle or just for fun, but in India I can really see that motorcycles have a special place in the heart of Indians, because it meets a practical need but also a passion. I even watch your videos just for the pleasure now just to learn more about motorcycles, and I became passionate too 😊 Thank you for your passion and hard work and for bringing this content for people who lives in India in a language that I can understand better ❤
Hey Emerick! That's such a great message to read! We're very excited to welcome you to the wonderful world of two-wheels. When you're ready to buy, please do ping us, we'd love to help you find a bike that really works for you!
@@motorinc Thank you for this kind message. Will let you know when I am ready to buy, I am still trying to choose☺️ And thank you again for your hard work.
@@motorinc Just in case you know, there is rumors about the new KTM Duke 200 2024 coming soon. Do you have any informations about that ? Just to know if I should wait before making my final choice.
Guys, Like seriously this is the best review of the NS 400Z on the internet. TH-cam is filled with top speed runs and what not But your review is such an exception. Salute to you guys🫡🫡
A question. NS 400z vibration's kicks in from 3.5 thousand rpm. It's not uncomfortable but you can't unnotice it. The same goes with Guerrilla. I found the triumph speed triple with the same vibration pattern though less intense. Based on your experience out of these three, which one you would recommend. I come from NS 200 so all these bikes are upgrade for me. The reason for this question is i like all three equally and can't decide on one
Tested out the Mavrick 440, Scram 411 and Vstrom Sx 250, booked the V strom loved the engine it was smooth af probably the Smoothest engine on anything I have ever ridden with pretty good acceleration and not bad torque at low revs and the road presence was awesome with everyone on the road staring up at me lol. It price may be unjustified for the equipment but it super justified after you have ridden it and had fun with it looking forward to the delivery.
@@bhanupatil6034 Honestly the variance in quality levels.... The bikes I tested had quality levels that varied tremendously the first one had way sharper brakes that felt really uncomfortable to ride with but had a better suspension set up but had vibration the entire rpm band while the 2nd one had much better brakes but much harsher suspension set up alongside vibration at lower Rpm levels which got better at higher gears..... Another reason is my father already own a retro bike in the honda h'ness 350 so i wanted something different and always had an eye for advs so the V strom it was tho the mavrick is a very low end torque machine which feels much lighter than it is so it might be a good purchase but i will say wait till October atleast if u plan to buy it cause right now I can't say I trust the quality levels. Cheers have a great day.
Last standout pulsar was RS200. After that, Pulsars became less of a enthusiast bike and more of a money making machine for Bajaj. I really don't understand why Bajaj is killing this Pulsar brand in the name of low price. Is it to protect KTM sales? Is it due to KTM pressure? What is Bajaj really afraid of when it comes to launching a true Pulsar? I own NS200, and I feel lucky to have one of NS200 or RS200, because these were the last Pulsars which Bajaj made with passion for biking. It hurts to see my favourite Pulsar brand's downfall like this
I have been driving 2/4 wheelers since 10/May/2006. Now I own NS-400z as 5th bike. I liked Hunter-350 in sight on road and there ends the story for it. NS-400z - as I witness everyday, is a head-turner. I went for the features more than visual treat and it amazes me with engine performance and features esp. Liquid-Cooling Engine, a boon in everyday commute. Last but not least it has an amazing suspension, may be the reason I started to like after riding for more than 4k KMs. P.S: I would have gone with Hunter-350 if it were to come with ==>> Liquid-Cooled-Engine / Ride-By-Wire / Power-Torque%Weight / Ride-Modes / Low-Rake-Angle / Light-Weight / Suspension ==>> Final-Go - Price.
So hows the experience been so far? Any issues/regrets? Also, if you had the budget and were to choose between Duke 250 and NS400z with upgraded tyres and brakes, which one would you choose and why?
@@bestcocbaseswithlink5069 - Experience has been amazing. Best of NS-400z - is how good the suspension feels on any type of surface. I owned YAMAHA FZ-X previously and felt unbearable and useless on rumbling strips. My next would be APRILIA TUONO 457 or RE (any) 650 CC. Only downside is TYRE - They just don't offer the confidence and grip on smooth surfaces. Need to replace them if you want to keep it for long in your garage. Issues - Service Queues are excruciatingly long. Definitely go for it for the kind of features at this price point. Every Pulsar rider will stop to see what is this beast... Power is almost next level...
One thing I love about this channel - mention of emotions. Hahaha In a global world of 4 wheelers, emotion matters a lot to two-wheel owners. So does agresssion, and so does throttle response.
We need similar kind of media while talking about politics, no nonsense, straight on to the point. Highlight what is good as good, what is bad as bad and what is worse as worse. Kudos guys. Cancelling my booking for NS
16:32 Went ahead and took a test ride. I was at the showroom for a different reason and I managed to convince the showroom guy to give me a test ride. Although, it was not more than 10KMs since I was not purchasing the bike anyway, I just wanted to experience the bike. For perspectives, I am riding a 160cc Apache RTR for 10K KMs and frequently riding NS200s, KTM390s, R15s borrowed from friends. Verdict: Vibrations are an issues, yes, something I could immediately feel right from starting the bike but I believe the front brakes are a huge safety concern. I mean I have fitted ceramic front brake pads in my RTR160 and when compared to that, NS400 brakes are downright unsafe for a 40bhp bike, I believe. And this bike should not be going to the less experienced people, they will run into trouble.
I want to meet the guy that designed the meter consoles of the new pulsars and want to know in which universe are they good looking Frankley, the old digital analog cluster looked better
I blame those reviewers who always say digital>analogue or "isme bluetooth nahi hai". For some bikes Analogue is better like old R3 ninja 300 ninja 400 looks better than ninja 500 or new R3
Ha gotcha.....welcome to E20 bikes......😅😅......i bought an E20 bike and straight went to showroom telling them throttle response is about zero....they ended up laughing saying bhaiya bs4 tha kya isse pehle....isme aisa hi hota hai. Same with fuel economy... Super bad before 400 km... Also give this bike a second service ... And only and only after that it will give a better throttle respnse, like 10% better and 50% better fuel economy . Also premium fuel is a must for these kinda bikes.....thats what i have noticed so far with E20 bikes.
A Disconnect episode on Tyre, Tyre Brands, Tyre Choice, Tyre Care etc for 2 wheelers and 4 wheelers would be absolutely wonderful and informative. Its the most important and only part of the vehicle that is connected to the road and mostly ignored.! *Just a suggestion*
15:53 Shumi mentioned the 390 Duke's suspension being the best in class. How would the g310r rank against it and against the speed 400 for that matter (suspension/comfort). @motorinc
Couple of points. 1. The pricing difference between the Duke390 and NS400Z clearly indicates the cost that goes into engineering something exciting. 2. This is a magic of BOM sharing resulting in a super cheap 400cc bike. 3. As you have mentioned towards the end regarding the supply chain guy taking decisions, made me think on DFx elements that are given so much importance in engineering a product like design for manufacturing/assy etc. There is something called as DFSC - Design for supply chain; seems like this bike is great example of over-optimization for DFSC. As always, great content, video production and knowledge!!
Why do people, especially Shumi, criticize the Dominar 400 so much? I have ridden that motorcycle, and it’s perfect-powerful and comfortable for touring.
The engine mapping is because of the ecu . I dont know whether the ecu of a bike can be swaped to another. Inn case we can swap then, we can swap it with the duke 390 . So can we have a very aggressive ns400z??
Its impossible to walk into a bajaj showroom and get a test ride. Even if you beg them for a test ride they might give you a 1 minute spin around the block. I was a ns200 owner, never again buying a Bajaj just because of how the showroom guys treat the customer. Even when i bought the ns200 they refused me test ride and i had to buy it just by sitting on the bike parked in the showroom.
@@sorcerermax5111 absolutely. I loved the ns200. Still puts a smile on my face once it's above 7k rpm. But it's their showroom and sales guys that I have a problem with.
Bruh that's a showroom thing not service centre. Just go to a different showroom? My dad had a horrible time at a land rover showroom, guess what we did? We went to a different one and it was fine
@@yellowflash511 my city has multiple Bajaj showrooms, I've been to about 3-4 showrooms, experience was the same. They just don't want you to test ride. I never mentioned service center once.
I think I need to step on here and make things easy for others. I was planning to get a NS 200. I have good experience with many 150 cc and RE Classic 350/ Thunderbird. But my budget was that of the NS 200. Maintenance, mileage everything was just perfect for me. What I didn't like was the old design, lack of modern features like USD, etc. I wanted a mix of performance for daily office runs and something that could do 4-5 long tours every year comfortably without feeling boring. The NS 200 was the only thing that justified my needs. Now the NS 400 gave me much more power, features, freshness. Of course it's not not at all at par with other 400 cc bikes. But as an entry level 400, nothing matches it. So comparing it with the latest 390 Duke makes no sense. As Shumi mentioned, it performs like a really great 250 cc. And that's it. The mileage, performance, Maintenance, everything explains the price. And honestly, if bajaj made this bike with the current or last gen duke engine, gave it all the awesome quality stuff, the price would have gone up drastically and no one would buy a 3 lakh plus inr Pulsar. It's the perfect upgrade from 200 cc bikes and towards more premium high capacity bikes. If you are looking for raw ktm or ninja performance, don't go for the Ns 400. But plz don't compare as well. Makes no sense at all.
So hows the experience been so far? Any issues/regrets? Also, if you had the budget and were to choose between Duke 250 and NS400z with upgraded tyres and brakes, which one would you choose and why?
I'll be upgrading from an Apache 160 4V. Will this be a Worthwhile upgrade for me.?? Or will it be a better upgrade for someone coming from the TVS Raider 125.??
Was waiting for this episode for so long now😂....great episode! And it's like shumi is the teacher and in the end he conducts an exam in the name of quick summary😂
The fuel warning UI issue and fueling issue are present in dominar as well.. even with a lot of range left the refuel warning pops up to induce anxiety on riders
I just love how Shumi gets honest and to the point. He really feels the emotion of what he is trying to put across. Same goes with the Japan episode! Marvellous!
Where is the intro music from? Shazam tells me it is "Find your stillness-Sookz" but it does not seem to be it. Calling out powers on the internet for help!
Just got my test rides on the N250 and NS200 yesterday. Decently long test rides. Rode them on the same road. High traffic. Empty private road 1km section with sharp corners. My opinion - These are both potent bikes. Loved the engines❤❤ Both of them. Different feeling to each other. But amazing ❤ I liked the chasis on the NS200 more than the N250 But the wider tyres makes the behaviour of the bike while applying the brakes on the N250 very stable and controlled while the NS200 seems to get upset if you apply the brakes too hard. It might be lack of skill from my side this being my first purchase. But even though the engine and chasis on the ns is better than the n. The lack of confidence on the brakes on the ns makes me actually ride the n harder than the n. What do you guys think?
400z bruh cus 40bhp is 40 bhp, paying 30k more for 60% more power than NS 200 seems reasonable. In the long term this bike will last more than any 200-250cc.
What about Aftermarket ECU remapping? Once we unlock the hidden potential, do you guys think, it can compete in Terms of aggressiveness. And How fast do u guys think this can go....
While talking about 400 engine series from ADV to NS, do you think a Avenger 400 (or any cruiser) makes sense? Will Bajaj bring an Avenger lineup with same engine?
Shumi sir, I currently own a 2018 NS 200. Do you think that the excitement and rush factor is almost similar in both the NS 200 and the 400Z? Or is differentiable enough for one to buy the 400Z?
can someone help me find the f1 podcast that shumi talked about in some episode, I can't even recall if it was a motorinc first or thisconnect episode. There should be a wiki of these things honestly
*Explore MotorInc memberships at* youtube.com/@motorinc/join
*Chapters*
00:00 Price Is Right
03:20 Value Of Value For Money
04:00 Parts Bin Motorcycle
06:35 What's New
09:20 Performance
13:35 Corners & Comfort
16:28 Brakes
17:00 Traction Control
17:40 Seating Position
18:39 New Instruments
19:35 Refuel
20:35 Tyres
21:25 UI/UX Issues
26:09 Vibration
28:30 Fuelling Issues
29:41 400cc Strategy
32:09 Match Your Tyres
33:04 Design
35:38 The Gentle 400
38:35 Pricing
40:02 Your First Motorcycle
40:50 Quick Summary
48:39 Premium Experience
52:03 Closing Comments
I Enjoyed the conversation 🙂👍🏻
Pls cover Pulsar 220F in 2024, is it worth buying compared to retro vehicles and not with modern machines. Thanks.
what watch are you wearing , please respond
Hey Sumi, do you think that getting an after market quick throttle installed will solve the issue of slow throttle response?
Boring 😔 conversation
390 Duke, RC 390, ADV 390, Triumph Speed 400, Scrambler 400, Dominar 400, Pulsar NS400Z......... Bajaj deserves praise for truly democratizing 400cc/40hp bikes 🫡
Your definition of Democracy needs some corrections but okay
Really 😂.... When you sell same engine with so many bikes, it's obvious the price goes down... RE does the same thing too..
@@THUGPUTIN I agree with the RE 650 part. But how are the Duke's 399cc, Triumph's 399cc (chain-sprocket on right side) and Dominar/Pulsar's 373cc similar? Care to explain?
@@THUGPUTIN Let's hope Honda launches 20 models with their 1000cc i4. Yaay!! Free Bikes!!! 😂
@@THUGPUTIN there are primarily 3 different engines here, all are not the same
The 20BHP OG 2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi was priced at 82,800. Adjusted for 6% inflation for 17 Years, the amount is equivalent to Rs.2,18,800. The launch price of the Pulsar NS400Z is Rs.33.8k lower than the inflation adjusted price of the 20BHP flagship Pulsar of 2007.
Very interesting take!
Becz they have done RND it was high in that time .. today you can say duke 390 ..many desire to buy couldn't afford
Yea, but that's not the point..
What is the actual point of having a 400cc bike that is meant to be a commuter, that looks like a 200cc bike , yet will return only 28km/L ?
@@VeganSanatani It costs roughly the same as the Gixxer 250 / MT15 / Honda CB300F / Classic 350 / Karizma XMR / Duke 200 / RC 125. Given the performance, this is definitely a lot more exciting than these *similarly priced bikes*. It also gets bragging rights. You have a 400, not a 350 that 20k+ people get every month.
@@VeganSanatani well, in my opinion, the point of having it is the 40hp engine
Oh My God. Seriously. This is sheer eye opening session. I thought, me as a Rider need to just know and care about the bike and that only but it is not the case anymore. I seriously can't go back to any other basic review of a motorcycle at all. You folks have not only changed the bike/car game but you took the bloody format and burnt it crisp. I really really am surprised at how much i have learned about the automotive industry. I am seriously thinking and suggesting shumi and kartik to start a masterclass in how to do motorjournalism and if you do so, let me be the first candidate. Literally speechless on the sheer breakdown of the bike and industry by large.
Thank you for the kind words @rajatghosh6613! We'll pass your compliments on to the team.
Lemme read the comment first then I'll watch the video.
+1, I agree, all these reviewers are just clones of each other, for ex, power drift, bikewaale, zigwheels etc. they all feel the same but motor inc is something else entirely. Screw the numbers, these guys are the benchmark for motorcycle reviews.
Absolutely! Would love to attend a class if these two offer it!
@@motorinc sir request you to please release content in hindi too. Your knowledge about automotive is so deep. But in indian viewvership hindi is major language.
So please create/ release content in hindi language too. Great work
My cousins' friends and me were talking about this bike and he said that the price is very low and i told him that is because most of the part are recycled. He asked me if i watched motornic because i was criticising the bike , i told him that if we as buyers keep expecting less from the brands , change will never happen ❤
Honda Activa is a prime example of that.
Business doesn't work like you thought. Re-using parts is a great strategy. You shouldn't criticise only because the price is kept low, bring real points. As far as I see, a lot of young and entry level riders will enjoy this bike. What's your issue?
Glad to hear that you're having discussions about MotorInc @Aditoise!
@@AayushKarwatkar i have a big problem at all , it's just the people label that it's 'cheap' whenever someone tells them about the problems about the bike .
@@Aditoise lol. As I said, you don't understand business. Money is directly proportional to the premium quality in ideal cases.
9/10 for the quick summary.
I liked the phrase where shumi said, the moment you buy a motorcycle and bring it home the value for money factor goes out the window
Thank you @kevinchristi.
Not for the average Joe who buys it on emi. Value for money is probably the highest metric for indians
@@VarunGoud07 doesn't matter. the moment you start dailying a bike and you don't enjoy it, you'd absolutely regret every penny you spent and hate yourself for not spending that extra money. Hence, vfm doesn't matter even if it feel like it does.
But the money which you saved has lot of value. Roughly you would save 1L or something I guess. You can get iphone in that.
@@jdmotorist yes, but do you go out and buy a bike based on if it can buy you an iPhone too?
I don't even have a motorcycle.. it's a dream I'm still waiting to live and yet I watch all these hour long conversations about bikes (and cars too sometimes). Shumi and Kartikeya, you guys have brought out this thing in me which even I didn't know existed.. Thanks to the whole Motorinc team.. it's your format, presentation, scripting and that editor, yll pulled me into this world of automobile. Today I don't even own a single vehicle and yet somehow I'm so fond of them and the credit goes to you guys. I really hope one day I'll be able to meet Shumi and Kartikeya.. spend some time with you people and learn even more.
Thank you guys
Thank you for the compliments @AbhinabMohanty-sh7zs. We'll pass them on to the entire team.
Well spoken by Lord Shumi here, Majority of Folks like me Who never rode a 40 bhp, We might feel this exciting, Dont loose hope guys
Lord Shumi also preaches delayed gratification.
This will be a great bike to upgrade from 100-150cc to 400cc
I don't get why a lot of us Indians keep putting people on pedestals. Shumi & K are great journalists but calling him "lord shumi" is the same energy as "bts army". And even more embarrassing when grown ass adults do this.
I still remember that crazy pulsar 200 DTSi ad shot in a street. Pulsar meant something else back then. It was aspirational. Wat an era it was, we had Pulsar, Karizma and Apache. 😍 🔥
We have all of them now too but are they as aspirational as they were? Only the Apaches have been consistent.
@@motorinc apaches are still holding onto their core dna but can’t say the same about pulsar and karizma
I own one of those beauties. She has completed 16 years now.
@@motorincApache's remain aspirational with their flagships only because of the ridiculous pricing 😂
Yup, rtr 200 4v, while nothing wrong, isn't any special either(atleast doesn't feel like)@@muhammadfaheem3746
Can't help but feel the gentle throttle maps are deliberately so that people don't feel disincentivized from buying the KTMs
Unlikely Bajaj would do that because they aren't the same brands.
@@motorinc they would be eating into their own sales though.. same reason i think they would not come out with a trident 400 or something
@@MrTech153I don't think triumph would want to associate itself with a 400cc
@@confused.cat.Uh, does the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400X not exist in your world?
Kartikeya is like why are we even doing this. He looks almost as bored as me half way through the conversation. 😂😂
It wasn't one of their more flourishing conversations for sure @rawalsushant...
@@motorinc yeah I could feel that throughout the conversation. But I guess that shows the overall state of what the brand Bajaj has in the market. They need to start focusing on their own portfolio rather than rely on other brands. Having owned the first RS200 I know that I was looking forward for a more powerful 400cc bike in that range but that never happened.
“Definitely mild, not daring.”
This is something that now all Bajaj products have turned into. I feel they should start to venture with KTM for twin-cylinders on budget if they really want to bring that spark of excitement of the old days. And as usual summary is just on point 10/10.
Thanks Dheeraj! We agree! 😊
I think Bajaj is doing this deliberately so they don't eat into sales of aggressive premium bikes of ktm and truimph a well. They’ve accepted their position of mass market product only appealing to non-passionate buyers through price, who looks forward to talk about the bike to their relatives rather than enjoy and ride it.
Just on point for Bajaj!
Bajaj bikes are shit (except old Pulsars) buy a KTM or Triumph if u want to be happy
I just realized something! I don't need to see the bike going around the track or anything! I can just listen to these videos, think of them as podcasts, and they cover everything a person wants to know about a new bike!! Great job, y'all!
That's the intention @EverythingAboutWheels. Thank you for joining us!😊
The best thing about NS200 and RS200 were that their performance was close to their KTM cousins Duke 200 and RC 200. NS400Z doesn't seem to that kind of a bike which can compete with Duke 390. Bajaj should have at least used Gen2 43Bhp engine and cut some unwanted crap like riding modes.
If there is another variant of NS400 coming as per rumours, then that should be an aggressive looking and aggressive performing machine
Delulu 🤡
Duke 390 is 1.5 lakhs more expensive. The difference is huge
exactly my thought!had same expectation that it would be a bargain duke 390 gen 2 performance,i wont hesitate installing an aftermarket ECU or atleast remap stock ECU for punchier performance
The way Shumi Defined Value for money actually fits for almost every purchase decision 😎😎
You gotta love the product first and then consider it's value for money but sadly most people look the other way around.
It can be one of the decision making factors but it can't be the decision making factor for sure.
i think what Shumi is missing that it is for the people who lacks the budget to buy a duke 390 or any costlier motorcycle, but what it offers against 1.85 lacs is super great and
it can be recommended to anyone who wants a bike in this budget segment, period.
Bhai 400cc motorcycle performance enjoy karne ke liye lete hain & shumi said take a test ride & if u love riding it then only purchase & not because it is priced low
Or someone wanting bigger bike for cruising comfortable and overtaking on the faster roads now with decent handling etc. Reliability and comfort and it will sounds good. No where to push a bike round corner here.
i respect shumi a lot , but in this particular case he was making it very hard to understand, that's it, that's why I added this comment as a bottom line
If it works for you as-is, go for it @taushifanwar7023. It's still a good bike just don't think that you're getting a powerful 400cc bike.
In indian scenario NS 400Z is the most practical bike...
Easy on pocket ,easy to ride,can go 120KMPH easily and sustain that speed.
But if you are looking a bike for Indian scenario than buy a 150 cc to 250 cc bike.
why do you need a 400cc bike that looks like a 200cc bike, made to be a commuter bike and will cost you more money on fuel..?
Because I have ridden dominar 400 in highway and it was wonderful,and that engine is reliable.
No 200 or 250 cc match that in highway.
And this ns 400 is not a replacement for ktm 390 or MT03,This bike is for those who want a excellent bike in a price range of 2lakh.
My Honda 300f can reach 150kmph and done it
@@Bikecraze71 oky you can reach but
Can you maintain that speed without straining the engine?
@@shuvankarroy7275 I owned dominar and also Suzuki 250. But Dominar is worst when the speed is less than 70kmph. Suzuki had very smooth engine, very good in both low speed and high speed. I could cruise all the day above 100kmph with a butter smooth SOCS Engine which does not fry my legs.
I posted a comment on some video of yours that I will buy your membership the day you post a review for the pulsar400z and you posted the review and I bought your membership, good trade. great review.
Awesome! Do let us know if you have questions, Yuvraj!
And here i am, still can’t see the option to buy membership
my brother brought an ns400Z on 13th may, after riding it for a month or so he also thought it was sluggish and lacked the punch in lower end. We decided to got some mods done to the bike like
1. replacing the tires, we went for Michelin Pilot series as it was in our budget
2. replaced fuel filters , as a result the milage has been reduced a little bit .
3. also added an POWERTRONIC ECU and kept the stock muffler tho we get quite a bit low rpm jerks thanks to that
it costed us around 30K
Thank you for sharing @Anikett2006. Have these modifications helped make the bike better overall?
@@motorinc The bikes overall performance has gotten really good we had to adjust the rare suspension to the hardest settings to get the best high speed performance , the engine no doesn't feel sluggish in sports mode and it actually feels sporty as it should be
we faced a few problems too , like the milage dropped by 8-9 kmpl and the low rpm jerks while riding above 3rd gear increased exponentially.
overall the bike has become Really enjoyable compared to the Stock
hope this helps ❤️🩹
@@Anikett2006 what was the initial mileage prior to modding? do you recommend non-modded ns400z to someone as his 1st bike?
@@bestcocbaseswithlink5069 we used to get around 25-27 kmph while riding hard in the city , if you have prior experience of riding lets say an 125cc bike then yes it will feel like an substantial upgrade but not in terms of quality , if you compare it to my scrambler 400x i does not hold a candle, if not i would recommend R15 or MT15 they are amazing motorcycles in this price point of NS400z . They may seem underwhelming on the spec sheet but you will be in love after test riding them.
have a nice day
"perfection is not about flaws, perfection is about having flaws in the right place"
True
🤜🏽🤛🏽
If i had a shot everytime shumi took a shot at the dominar, i would drink enough to forget that i own one and i really really like it and then i would join him in accepting the flaws of that bike :-)
It's a great bike for the buck back in the day but now it needs significant update if you look at the competition
@@xgamershub agreed! they really need to drop the weight....the fact that the bodywork was where they reduced 8 kilos shocked me!
I too own a dominar 250 and i love it. Best buy under 2L₹ back then
Dominar is a good bike, these people just enjoy criticising Bajaj bikes
@@HimanshuPanchbhave, tbf, they are not wrong! All their criticisms are valid.
Although i still enjoy these 2 going about trying to give us all the information, i think there is a bit of disconnect with what the positioning of the bike / target audience is. The price is a big give-away on this front. Its basically a typical pulsar i.e. a sporty looking commuter. It is basically targeted at people who are maturing from a 150-200. So a right comparison for this would ideally be a Duke 250 and not a 390 and thats why when Shumi says its a good 250 not a 400 i think he is bang on. The marketing team from Bajaj would be blessed if they watched this and decided who their target audience is.
Thanks for chiming in Suraj! We like how often we see you in the comments!
@@motorinc Just trying to help with the algorithm!
11:29 the hate for the dominar sips in, again
Ha ha.
I am slowly starting to get why some folks on r/indianbikes have, let's say, not ideal takes on motorinc lol. On the other hand, I love this channel, deep nerdy discussion about motorcycles from people I know that are well experienced and aren't just bluffing
@@confused.cat. i know right ... iI love the fact that they give their opinion, that's why i am here for .. i am not experienced so, They also says all bikes are good for different people. Dominar is not predominantly bad ... but.
Dmm i testrided one .. and the power is good but it's heavy as fuc.
@@arthurkenfleck-vf5nb i dont think so .. the ns200 review was on point and old n250 has quite a good review .. just thik about it there are a lot of bikes with soo less to differentiate
@@Future.is.crisis i mean its a touring bike, heavier bikes give you better highway stability even at higher speeds, so it makes sense
Kartik's expressions were priceless. We can have a compilation of kartik's expression. hahaha!
And yeah, as everyone is also saying, the value for money 400cc, feels a bit odd to me. I think a customer buying a 400cc motorcycle, looks for a reasonable price with awesome experience rather than "this is the cheapest 400cc there is".
Indeed @sayantanchattopadhyay9711
Yes. Thats exactly my thought too. Why just go for the lable?
I feel like, It's more for the people who say, I have a budget of 2.5 lakh, what's the biggest bike I can get.
@@confused.cat. yeah. would it actually give the person enjoyment of riding a 400cc...
like shumi said its more like riding a powerful 250 ...
Start showing more bike video not just you two talking
I recently bought a Duke 390,still hasn't received it from the showroom..will get it soon.After the NS 400 prices came out I was wondering should I have waited a little longer for a test ride..but after Your review I guess I made the right purchase...
As Shumi says in the video, the 390 Duke is on another level.
You are delusional to compare two bikes in very different segments/category. If you are confused in between a Duke 390 or pulsar ns400z then you don't know what you really want lol. You should understand yourself better.
Naah duke 390 is the one if you've made all those arrangements already. The new 390 is so good Aprilla and Kawasaki had to do new 450cc engines to compete globally.
Thank God I don’t have to regret my Scrambler 400x purchase because of this price point!
Dudeee i just saw it once outside my house and oh god it looks really huge and pretty
It's a dream to ride! My first bike and such a forgiving one at that
Once you've bought a motorcycle, regretting it isn't productive. Just go out and enjoy it for what it is.
What about the Hero Maverick when compared in terms of Ride and Handling, Suspension and Throttle mapping
Its not even monsoon and its raining pulsars 😂😂
🤣
I think the gentle Sports map is implemented because Bajaj were looking for reliability to make the engine last longer than usual. Keeping in mind that the average commuter won't be as particular about maintaining the service intervals, maybe?
Man, what a clear statement "Think of it as a powerful 250 rather than a weak 400". I think it was a very strong perception that the market had about this product, which it is perhaps but only when we get the price in the talks, which is not what a product should be at the end of the day, as "We don't ride value for money home". The product might end up doing great in sales and it could be great for those who really want the 400 tag today when a sporty 150cc comes around the same price.
Great breakdown of the product, amazing insights of why the price is so well managed, and a clear perspective of what a customer should expect from this Bajaj. Also I do feel that Bajaj really needs to go all out with atleast one product in their lineup, with max performance and give it the best equipment, but again there is KTM for that and for a better feeling Bajaj we have the Triumph. All this is making Pulsar a commuter brand now rather than an enthusiasts choice.
Another great Motorinc First, It's always great watching both of you. Also, Shumi having the MotorInc logo as his watch face is great!
Thank you for the compliments @saashkatchandratre7849! We'll pass them on to the team.
The only channel who knows its a DOT MATRIX display.... Where others " Naya LCD panel " ....😅
The so called riders/reviewers don't know shit about bikes
Good Morning Motorinc ☀️
This is what we wanted...not just a 15min video of reading the brochure, but Shumi looks tired today..
You're welcome @Simran_Shrestha07
Pulsar400 drive made him tired and exhausted 😂
@@Bikecraze71 hope not 😂😂
The search for my next motorcycle continues, sigh. Here's the back story. I owned a Yamaha R15 v2 from 2014-2018, went abroad for 4 years and returned in 2022. While the new R15 is great, the riding position is too committed and now I'd like a more powerful bike. The CB300R is beautiful but feels too small, Speed 400, same thing, Scrambler 400X is great and probably the one that I've loved the most so far but the vibes beyond 6k RPM bothers me. I completely agree with Shumi's assessment of this character of the Triumph twins, it's so effortless below 6k but turns into a totally different motorcycle post 6k. Long stroke engines are too 'boring', maybe I'll like them in the future, one day. The Duke 390 is too manic, too aggressive. The Aprilia RS457 is lovely, but the riding position is still too committed. Maybe the Tuono if and when it comes would be the one for me? Time will tell. With the NS400, I probably expected more. I loved riding the BS4 NS200, a bigger more sophisticated version of the same with 90% of Triumph levels of quality was maybe too much to expect at this price point. 2 years in and the search continues. Maybe I'm just too picky 🤷🏻!
Thanks for sharing your take @VineetBhombare! It's not a light decision so take your time. If you haven't already, consider the new Himalayan? We think it might surprise you so take a test ride and see what you think.
@@motorinc The Himalayan is intriguing, I will take a test ride soon. Most of my riding would be in the city (Bengaluru), is it nimble enough for the city? Any opinions?
Yes. But what is nimble enough is a subjective decision too - take a test ride!
@@motorinc Agreed. Will take a test ride and decide
What being presented here is there experience of the bike, which could be totally different than yours. So take a test ride and then decide 🙂
This was the most interesting 'First' ive watched.
I feel like ive been short changed yet i dont feel cheated.
I think Bajaj are on to something here. Theek hai, it doesnt behave like a Duke, and is much more mellow, buy theree no replacement for displacement and this really has democracised the power of that engine/displacement. And i really appreciate that.
I understand that this seems like Bajaj is doing the Kawasaki thing, and showing a 'Ninja300' down the ignorant Indian consumer's throat, mut maybe theyre really onto something.
I think Kawasaki would also do well to price their 300 lower, and form a new segment of sorts, where they compete with the Pulsar 400, Honda 300, Duke 250 ranges(including the race/adventure versions of these platforms if and when they come).
Hi @leakedzebra! Thanks for your take but Shumi believes that the Ninja 300 shouldn't even exist. It's a >10 year old motorcycle at this point. As for NS400Z, as they say, it definitely does have the potential to be a good bike but we're gonna have to see where they take it.
You guys will have me turning up late to work!
😅
If you buy the NS400, you'll definitely get late for work!
@@sunabhp 😂
Literally 😂
I'm at work so I've been watching this for the past 2 Hrs 😅😅 and still at 20 mins in the video..
Indians should be thankful to Bajaj for this bike at this price point.
No thanks, we'll ask them to do better instead @dipanker4865.
They should do better R&D and improve services rather fighting for cheap bikes
@@motorincbest wishes , but their main focus is consumers not TH-camrs or theoretical experts .
True, only a minority of elitists are criticising it which Bajaj doesn't even know exist
Should it be the best bike for a beginner. i have a classic 350 bs4 is this gonna be a major upgrade?
Sticker price warriors will love this as I loved my 1st gen Dominar which I got for 1.75L on road but after 4 years of owning it I grew tired of all the compromises in quality they had made and I developed hatred for bajaj products and I'm pretty sure this bike would be just the same. I've shifted my focus from buying anything just based on price to getting products with quality.
Truth
What are you riding now @hm23215?
@@motorinc switched to 390 adv about 3 years back and loving every kilometre of riding it.
Awesome!
@@arthurkenfleck-vf5nb atleast i'm speaking through my experience as I've owned both instead of just being a keyboard warrior.
i have one question then, if milage is not an issue then what should i go for r15 mt15 gixxer 250 sf or the gixxer 250 or ns 400 , .. any other bike budget no more than 2.2 L non streachable ..i want a machine that will help me grow
Karthik and Sumi let bring your notice I have ridden Pulsar 150 DTS-i UG2 for 15 years and trust me guys the instant pickup and acceleration was at par and I am talking about the very next series just after the Hamara Bajaj Blue logo migrated to the metallic grey and with the mag wheels and at that time Hero Honda CBZ was very famous and making its origin very very famous that time we knocked with bang ❤️🌹
Thanks Abhijit! And happy to hear that!
Most intelligent and intellectual conversation.
This will be biggest channel in not only India but also in the world. I m hear from 12k subscribers but never comment this one is first. It's a pleasure to have you two in bike community❤…
Hey Anish! First, thanks for taking the time to comment - it makes our day to see what you're thinking! Glad you're enjoying the MotorInc experience!
One thing to note is that the people who have not ridden Ktm 390's etc might not even notice the gentleness of this bike. And we cannot ignore that many of us can buy this today, on cash, while we cannot buy Duke 390 even after a year or two.
Thanks for letting us know!
How does it compare to Maverick 440 and CB350 classic? for office and city and weekend rides which one of these buy i should choose for long time use?
The Maverick and cb350 are touring bikes while ns400 is a sports bike so the power is way more in the Pulsar
Bajaj, at its core lineup of Pulsars especially, has positioned itself as the Zudio of motorcycles, ubiquitous and accessible to all, offering a taste of contemporary & bridge fashion to all, on two wheels.
That's very good n all from a PnL & cx footfall perspective it keeps their bottom line revenue stable and flowing which allows them to reinvent, innovate and also push for premium/niche segments as well (KTM/Triumph) and strategically it makes 100% sense.
And even though its not like they are losing their own identity but it surely is getting affected and hence, innovation, reinvention, etc. happens at the topline for Bajaj (evidently - KTM)
Is the intent with the bike good? Atleast from where I stand - yes. Why?
1) Bajaj is enabling access to powerful and competent motorcycle for the masses who are eager and energetic to reach it.
2) By making the NS400Z a bit mellow they made sure that people look at this as a option in this price range as with a similar demeanor but a more capable motorcycle which would win the spec sheet battle for sure (for some people - which gives footfall - which gives revenue)
3) This gives Bajaj more latitude to explore and introduce variants which again will target the masses and keep the interests high. And Pulsars always were the Thrill for the masses. And Bajaj with their Triumph and KTM's are just doing that along with Pulsars and Dominars.
4) The pricing, feature set and part's sharing clearly suggests that it is meant and made to be a access enabler for the masses.
So from a PnL, Strategy and Marketing perspective - everything is nice!
The problem:
1) Lacking identity, being distinguishable or aspirational.
2) Lacking the zeal and zest of what the Pulsars initially were and even more so compared to the NS200 and/or KTM's
3) This "PnL" oriented strategy if not done right ... can result in a decline over the years in interest and aspiration - its already showing as except the NS200 (so far).. gone are the times when people discussed or got excited about Pulsars. (THEY DON'T EVEN FEATURE IN THE YT DRAG RACING COMMUNITY ANYMORE 🥲😜)
But atleast, Bajaj has a solid topline to keep this going. KTM and now Triumph.
May be true @adrishmajumder9878 but those vehicles will be looked at as KTM and Triumph vehicles, not Bajaj's own. So, it's imperative that Bajaj realizes that and streamlines their offerings.
Ktm and triumph are ktm and triumph, they are not Bajaj, simply building sub 400 cc engines for their bikes don't mean ktm and triumph are Bajaj bikes, CF moto makes ktm's engines, don't mean people look at those bikes as CF moto. Aside from affordable commuters, Bajaj needs to make a good premium bike that looks premium. Look at CF moto, in recent years they have made a name for themselves in the western motorcycle market.
@@jackmadaima4681so you have to pay some money 😂
#BajajPulsarNS400Z
Can We?
Is ECU Maping possible?
Is Ride By Wire is removable?
Great Video as Usual🤩🤩
1. I cannot digest the fact that a 400 is not aggressive. I do think a commuter can be aggressive.
2. I think manufacturers really need to focus on Instrument console designs. It should look modern but most importantly it should be user friendly and make life of a rider easy. It should feel like using an apple smartphone ( simple and easy to adapt ) rather than an android full of bloatware and ads.
3. Both of them should mention the routes they took on videos. It was a great touch.
4. Other media houses and TH-camrs have reviewed the NX 500, Transalp and 800 DE. Will be awesome The Motorinc ones of them.
5. Since ThisConnect is back, Can I expect Motorinc Garage videos soon ? Waiting for Shumi's Multi video.
6. And finally, This video was a great Birthday gift for me. Great work The Motorinc team and keep it up.
Happy birthday Sidarth!
1 and 2: Agreed!
3. Feedback noted!
4. NX500 dates awaited. The larger bikes were not convince that the current formats are good for larger, lifestyle machines - we're working on this,
5. Request noted
6. Once again, happy birthday!
Only posers use Apple smartphones in India lol
Apple smartphone - simple and easy to adapt?
Can you even put your app icons where you like them? Oh wait you can't.
Hello to all the MotorInc team 👋 Just wanted to thank you all because as a foreigner (not Indian) who married an Indian woman and who live in India, I finally found an Indian youtube channel in English that explains everything about the bikes that are actually in the Indian market with such professionalism. After living a few years in India with a car, I finally want to buy a bike because of the traffic and because it match my needs more than a car now. And it's so hard to choose in this new market for me without the help of someone who knows deeply about motorcycles. It will be my first motorcycle in my life, and your videos help me a lot to make my choice. Planning to buy probably in August. In other countries people buy bikes just as an extra vehicle or just for fun, but in India I can really see that motorcycles have a special place in the heart of Indians, because it meets a practical need but also a passion. I even watch your videos just for the pleasure now just to learn more about motorcycles, and I became passionate too 😊 Thank you for your passion and hard work and for bringing this content for people who lives in India in a language that I can understand better ❤
Hey Emerick! That's such a great message to read! We're very excited to welcome you to the wonderful world of two-wheels. When you're ready to buy, please do ping us, we'd love to help you find a bike that really works for you!
@@motorinc Thank you for this kind message. Will let you know when I am ready to buy, I am still trying to choose☺️ And thank you again for your hard work.
@@motorinc Just in case you know, there is rumors about the new KTM Duke 200 2024 coming soon. Do you have any informations about that ? Just to know if I should wait before making my final choice.
The update is due for sure. But there’s no reliable information we can pass on to you, honestly 🤷🏽♂️
Guys,
Like seriously this is the best review of the NS 400Z on the internet.
TH-cam is filled with top speed runs and what not
But your review is such an exception.
Salute to you guys🫡🫡
Thank you much Dheeraj!
A question. NS 400z vibration's kicks in from 3.5 thousand rpm. It's not uncomfortable but you can't unnotice it. The same goes with Guerrilla. I found the triumph speed triple with the same vibration pattern though less intense. Based on your experience out of these three, which one you would recommend. I come from NS 200 so all these bikes are upgrade for me. The reason for this question is i like all three equally and can't decide on one
bro go for ns 400
Tested out the Mavrick 440, Scram 411 and Vstrom Sx 250, booked the V strom loved the engine it was smooth af probably the Smoothest engine on anything I have ever ridden with pretty good acceleration and not bad torque at low revs and the road presence was awesome with everyone on the road staring up at me lol. It price may be unjustified for the equipment but it super justified after you have ridden it and had fun with it looking forward to the delivery.
Congratulations @azael3036!
What is the reason to let go the Mavrick 440 ?
@@bhanupatil6034 Honestly the variance in quality levels.... The bikes I tested had quality levels that varied tremendously the first one had way sharper brakes that felt really uncomfortable to ride with but had a better suspension set up but had vibration the entire rpm band while the 2nd one had much better brakes but much harsher suspension set up alongside vibration at lower Rpm levels which got better at higher gears.....
Another reason is my father already own a retro bike in the honda h'ness 350 so i wanted something different and always had an eye for advs so the V strom it was tho the mavrick is a very low end torque machine which feels much lighter than it is so it might be a good purchase but i will say wait till October atleast if u plan to buy it cause right now I can't say I trust the quality levels. Cheers have a great day.
when are we getting Motrinc View for Mavrick 440?
Last standout pulsar was RS200. After that, Pulsars became less of a enthusiast bike and more of a money making machine for Bajaj.
I really don't understand why Bajaj is killing this Pulsar brand in the name of low price. Is it to protect KTM sales? Is it due to KTM pressure? What is Bajaj really afraid of when it comes to launching a true Pulsar?
I own NS200, and I feel lucky to have one of NS200 or RS200, because these were the last Pulsars which Bajaj made with passion for biking. It hurts to see my favourite Pulsar brand's downfall like this
I have been driving 2/4 wheelers since 10/May/2006.
Now I own NS-400z as 5th bike.
I liked Hunter-350 in sight on road and there ends the story for it.
NS-400z - as I witness everyday, is a head-turner.
I went for the features more than visual treat and it amazes me with engine performance and features esp. Liquid-Cooling Engine, a boon in everyday commute.
Last but not least it has an amazing suspension, may be the reason I started to like after riding for more than 4k KMs.
P.S: I would have gone with Hunter-350 if it were to come with
==>> Liquid-Cooled-Engine / Ride-By-Wire / Power-Torque%Weight / Ride-Modes / Low-Rake-Angle / Light-Weight / Suspension
==>> Final-Go - Price.
Thanks for sharing your thought process @jagadishdasari6466! Glad to hear that the NS400Z is working for you.
So hows the experience been so far? Any issues/regrets? Also, if you had the budget and were to choose between Duke 250 and NS400z with upgraded tyres and brakes, which one would you choose and why?
@@bestcocbaseswithlink5069 - Experience has been amazing.
Best of NS-400z - is how good the suspension feels on any type of surface. I owned YAMAHA FZ-X previously and felt unbearable and useless on rumbling strips.
My next would be APRILIA TUONO 457 or RE (any) 650 CC.
Only downside is TYRE - They just don't offer the confidence and grip on smooth surfaces. Need to replace them if you want to keep it for long in your garage.
Issues - Service Queues are excruciatingly long.
Definitely go for it for the kind of features at this price point. Every Pulsar rider will stop to see what is this beast...
Power is almost next level...
@@jagadishdasari6466 ok now its my next bike for sure
One thing I love about this channel - mention of emotions.
Hahaha
In a global world of 4 wheelers, emotion matters a lot to two-wheel owners. So does agresssion, and so does throttle response.
Absolutely! Motorcyclists are all about the emotion of motorcycling!
We need similar kind of media while talking about politics, no nonsense, straight on to the point. Highlight what is good as good, what is bad as bad and what is worse as worse. Kudos guys.
Cancelling my booking for NS
Thank you @Sanjeet_Bhatkar but take a test ride once it's available and then decide.
That hate for dominar is crazy. It deserves another try after so much noise in this segment.
16:32 Went ahead and took a test ride.
I was at the showroom for a different reason and I managed to convince the showroom guy to give me a test ride. Although, it was not more than 10KMs since I was not purchasing the bike anyway, I just wanted to experience the bike.
For perspectives, I am riding a 160cc Apache RTR for 10K KMs and frequently riding NS200s, KTM390s, R15s borrowed from friends.
Verdict: Vibrations are an issues, yes, something I could immediately feel right from starting the bike but I believe the front brakes are a huge safety concern.
I mean I have fitted ceramic front brake pads in my RTR160 and when compared to that, NS400 brakes are downright unsafe for a 40bhp bike, I believe. And this bike should not be going to the less experienced people, they will run into trouble.
I want to meet the guy that designed the meter consoles of the new pulsars and want to know in which universe are they good looking
Frankley, the old digital analog cluster looked better
I blame those reviewers who always say digital>analogue or "isme bluetooth nahi hai".
For some bikes Analogue is better like old R3 ninja 300 ninja 400 looks better than ninja 500 or new R3
It needs to do better for sure @cparunsankar7363.
Exactly bro , this design feels stupid as heck!!
Do u expect honda cb 300r price to come down to 2 to 2.1 lakh and is it lively compared to ns400z.
Ha gotcha.....welcome to E20 bikes......😅😅......i bought an E20 bike and straight went to showroom telling them throttle response is about zero....they ended up laughing saying bhaiya bs4 tha kya isse pehle....isme aisa hi hota hai.
Same with fuel economy... Super bad before 400 km...
Also give this bike a second service ... And only and only after that it will give a better throttle respnse, like 10% better and 50% better fuel economy .
Also premium fuel is a must for these kinda bikes.....thats what i have noticed so far with E20 bikes.
Isn't Duke 3rd gen E20 ?
@@saiteja-cg8gz i dont think so...... 373 wasnt .... 399 is.
A Disconnect episode on Tyre, Tyre Brands, Tyre Choice, Tyre Care etc for 2 wheelers and 4 wheelers would be absolutely wonderful and informative. Its the most important and only part of the vehicle that is connected to the road and mostly ignored.! *Just a suggestion*
We have already covered this in Season 01 @adslim9: th-cam.com/video/KD1hl9QXids/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nfiBylZtkNtziaVD
@@motorinc Thanks so much, how did I miss it will check it out asap. 😊👍🏽
Pulser became the famous "pulse" Candy. Everyone can afford it but the taste is not everyone's plate. 😅
😂😂😂😂😂
A dying star rather than a candy as per The name pulser define
15:53 Shumi mentioned the 390 Duke's suspension being the best in class. How would the g310r rank against it and against the speed 400 for that matter (suspension/comfort). @motorinc
g310r is actually the best overall, it's super comfy. Duke 390 would be better for a track with sharp corners I think
Couple of points.
1. The pricing difference between the Duke390 and NS400Z clearly indicates the cost that goes into engineering something exciting.
2. This is a magic of BOM sharing resulting in a super cheap 400cc bike.
3. As you have mentioned towards the end regarding the supply chain guy taking decisions, made me think on DFx elements that are given so much importance in engineering a product like design for manufacturing/assy etc. There is something called as DFSC - Design for supply chain; seems like this bike is great example of over-optimization for DFSC.
As always, great content, video production and knowledge!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts @suhasbharadwaj3645. And the compliments too! Will pass them on to the team.
Why do people, especially Shumi, criticize the Dominar 400 so much? I have ridden that motorcycle, and it’s perfect-powerful and comfortable for touring.
Cus ktm is better😂
Honestly what could Bajaj to to make dominar better?
How is it against mavrick 440 as they are in similar range
What's shumi's beef with dominar?
As a dominar owner, I am very desperate to know 🤣
The engine mapping is because of the ecu . I dont know whether the ecu of a bike can be swaped to another. Inn case we can swap then, we can swap it with the duke 390 . So can we have a very aggressive ns400z??
Its impossible to walk into a bajaj showroom and get a test ride. Even if you beg them for a test ride they might give you a 1 minute spin around the block. I was a ns200 owner, never again buying a Bajaj just because of how the showroom guys treat the customer. Even when i bought the ns200 they refused me test ride and i had to buy it just by sitting on the bike parked in the showroom.
I am also not impressed by Bajaj. Their standards need to improve a lot
@@sorcerermax5111 absolutely. I loved the ns200. Still puts a smile on my face once it's above 7k rpm. But it's their showroom and sales guys that I have a problem with.
Thanks for sharing @sidhantbiswas986.
Bruh that's a showroom thing not service centre. Just go to a different showroom?
My dad had a horrible time at a land rover showroom, guess what we did? We went to a different one and it was fine
@@yellowflash511 my city has multiple Bajaj showrooms, I've been to about 3-4 showrooms, experience was the same. They just don't want you to test ride. I never mentioned service center once.
Only you two can keep the audience interested in almost an hour long video......Great content and how you both put things into perspective ❤👍🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Aditya! Much appreciated!
Do you think changing rear sprocket bigger or smaller will help with performance and feel ?? Or ecu upgrade ??
I think I need to step on here and make things easy for others. I was planning to get a NS 200. I have good experience with many 150 cc and RE Classic 350/ Thunderbird. But my budget was that of the NS 200. Maintenance, mileage everything was just perfect for me. What I didn't like was the old design, lack of modern features like USD, etc. I wanted a mix of performance for daily office runs and something that could do 4-5 long tours every year comfortably without feeling boring. The NS 200 was the only thing that justified my needs. Now the NS 400 gave me much more power, features, freshness. Of course it's not not at all at par with other 400 cc bikes. But as an entry level 400, nothing matches it. So comparing it with the latest 390 Duke makes no sense. As Shumi mentioned, it performs like a really great 250 cc. And that's it. The mileage, performance, Maintenance, everything explains the price. And honestly, if bajaj made this bike with the current or last gen duke engine, gave it all the awesome quality stuff, the price would have gone up drastically and no one would buy a 3 lakh plus inr Pulsar. It's the perfect upgrade from 200 cc bikes and towards more premium high capacity bikes.
If you are looking for raw ktm or ninja performance, don't go for the Ns 400. But plz don't compare as well. Makes no sense at all.
Thanks for sharing, @tripathibvirgo!
So hows the experience been so far? Any issues/regrets? Also, if you had the budget and were to choose between Duke 250 and NS400z with upgraded tyres and brakes, which one would you choose and why?
is there any Adventure Motorcycles Bajaj is going to launch similar styles of RE Himalayan,Hero Xpulse,Suzuki VStorm and Similar to RE HNTR
Can we get details discussion on Yamaha mt15.
Compersion with compitators.
Hey, how would it feel coming from a RE Thunderbird 500
Any adv 400 coming from bajaj?
I'll be upgrading from an Apache 160 4V. Will this be a Worthwhile upgrade for me.??
Or will it be a better upgrade for someone coming from the TVS Raider 125.??
It can be! Get a test ride and ping us?
Which one to buy for rider and pillion comfort rides duke 250,hero Maverick or pulsar 400 plz suggest
I was wondering about which motorCycle to buy
Ns400z or RE classic 350
Shumi plz suggest a good bike in all aspects...
Could you suggest vitpillian 250 2024 is value for money in 2.64 lac price. Kindly suggest
Was waiting for this episode for so long now😂....great episode! And it's like shumi is the teacher and in the end he conducts an exam in the name of quick summary😂
😂 He's a tough one at that!
23:45 seems like either Functional Safety reviews didn't happen frequently or State machine architecture was not properly checked before implementing.
Shall i get the n250 or ns400z. Or any other alternatives. Had this confusion for quite a while
Hello @motorinc build quality is same as ns200 or n 250 like panels etc
The fuel warning UI issue and fueling issue are present in dominar as well.. even with a lot of range left the refuel warning pops up to induce anxiety on riders
I just love how Shumi gets honest and to the point. He really feels the emotion of what he is trying to put across.
Same goes with the Japan episode!
Marvellous!
Thank you @FreemanIsReal.
Kartikeya, which did you enjoy riding more? The ns 400 or the mavrick 400?
He can't answer that question because he has ridden neither @teebone25.
Oops sorry I meant Shumi!
@motorinc shumi, the question was for you! :D
Where is the intro music from? Shazam tells me it is "Find your stillness-Sookz" but it does not seem to be it. Calling out powers on the internet for help!
Hey! It’s something we made for ourselves. It’s not a commercial track in that sense Akshay
Hey Shumi, why can’t I find your video on Himalayan 450 anymore on the channel?
Hey! It’s in the All Access members section now UST!
So what would be a better proposition N250 or NS400Z, in terms comfortable ride and value for money?
Does Dominar get update as full touring bike?
Just got my test rides on the N250 and NS200 yesterday.
Decently long test rides. Rode them on the same road. High traffic. Empty private road 1km section with sharp corners.
My opinion -
These are both potent bikes. Loved the engines❤❤ Both of them. Different feeling to each other. But amazing ❤
I liked the chasis on the NS200 more than the N250
But the wider tyres makes the behaviour of the bike while applying the brakes on the N250 very stable and controlled while the NS200 seems to get upset if you apply the brakes too hard.
It might be lack of skill from my side this being my first purchase.
But even though the engine and chasis on the ns is better than the n. The lack of confidence on the brakes on the ns makes me actually ride the n harder than the n.
What do you guys think?
n250 ✌🏼 or test ride this 400z too
400z bruh cus 40bhp is 40 bhp, paying 30k more for 60% more power than NS 200 seems reasonable.
In the long term this bike will last more than any 200-250cc.
Take test ride of the NS400Z too @sahilhakani5220 sounds like the perfect compromise between the N and the NS for your needs.
@@motorinc I will do so soon. Wasn't yet available at the showroom.
What do you guys think about the yamaha mt15 aside these bikes?
@@sahilhakani5220 did you check out ns400z?
Hi, wondering why there's not a single video on CB350 on the channel?
We haven't got a test bike from Honda @PaulJacksonEdits.
What about Aftermarket ECU remapping? Once we unlock the hidden potential, do you guys think, it can compete in Terms of aggressiveness. And How fast do u guys think this can go....
While talking about 400 engine series from ADV to NS, do you think a Avenger 400 (or any cruiser) makes sense? Will Bajaj bring an Avenger lineup with same engine?
Shumi sir, I currently own a 2018 NS 200. Do you think that the excitement and rush factor is almost similar in both the NS 200 and the 400Z? Or is differentiable enough for one to buy the 400Z?
How much of that mellow throttle response can be changed? Do you think an ECU remap would fix this and make it more aggressive?
Yes , ECU remap would make this a beast 💯
can someone help me find the f1 podcast that shumi talked about in some episode, I can't even recall if it was a motorinc first or thisconnect episode. There should be a wiki of these things honestly
So would a ECU remap solve the linear power delivery? Make it more aggressive
It doesn't need a remap as much it needs Bajaj to turn up the responses on the Sport mode map, that's all really