*Chapters* 00:00 Well Received 01:45 Not Like a Bajaj 04:26 Not Like a Commuter 05:19 Other CNGs Coming? 06:06 Design 08:32 How Freedom Was Built 16:02 Living With the Weight 17:24 Is It Safe? 21:43 Performance 24:11 CNG vs Petrol 27:23 Fuel Economy 28:10 Living With CNG 29:23 Rivals? 30:50 CNG Scooter? 32:04 Riding The Freedom 33:53 Pricing 35:00 Feels Proper 36:38 Seat Hurts 37:37 Flagship-grade! 39:20 Interesting Details 40:40 It's Good 42:37 Closing Comments *Explore MotorInc memberships* at youtube.com/@motorinc/join
i was wondering why you didn't discuss or explain - why bajaj decided to go petrol + CNG instead of pure CNG bike?? it could... reduce complexity reduce weight reduce cost slightly increase CNG storage capacity, range & mileage so why not pure CNG 2 wheeler? & when you where discussing about possibilities of an CNG + petrol scooter you forgot the point that when customer is purchasing a scooter, they expect good amount of under seat storage space, which is not possible if you put a CNG tank & petrol tank on a scooter. It will also increase weight of scooter. which simply means that its no longer good for elders & female riders.
While I may not purchase this bike, it's fantastic to see Bajaj leading innovation in India. I hope this inspires other domestic companies to follow suit.
Bajaj has done their homework very well. I might be overanalyzing but the bluetooth call button seems like a really good idea. Most of the time the delivery guys get a lot of calls when they're on the bike they've to remove phones from pocket or fiddle with their earphones buttons to accept calls if phone is not mounted on handlebar. Giving that call accepting button was a good gesture that I'm sure a lot of workmen will appreciate.
having a call button on a bike is problematic because of regular presses could make it unusable and how these cokpanies manufacture their button housing because of one button whole assembly needs replacement. its not about making life easy with a solution. i say by not having a solution at all is a much better choice. besides people woud rather stuff their phones inside their helmet than to use an app which as to connect to vehicle as well as to communicator. these vehicle app system never works with 100% reliability.
@@Dkm337 Sorry bro. But I don't think the buttons are that bad. May be you have a bad experience. I sold my pulsar 180 2013 at 1.15 lakh(11500) kms after 7 years. Buttons were working fine.. and I used button a lot like high beam low beam or indicators or dipper. I have done lot of night riding on it..
@@nishantpratapsingh6628 no no its not like that, picture this. buttons of today now come bundled inside, how should i say this? lets say indicator and horn and headlamp toggle and then there is your tactile buttons. there are chances with regular use things will break in a sense where a simple press will not do the action. especially tactile switches they do loose their tactility and connection, overtime. and since these swich clusters usually dont come with replace individual part and replace individually, you have to buy the whole assembly where the indicator may work but you still have to replace it because your horn or call button broke. that is what i was saying. i have 23 year old 2stroke bike things dont break that easily yes but they lose the feedback becase metal connector fatigues over use. my concern is the everything on one control assembly and not being able to avail and replace individual component with tiny screws behind them. and the whole nonsense of mobile app connectivity and their reliability.
This video clears the doubts on anyone who thinks that auto-journalists who ride fast and expensive machines won't be interested in a 125. MotorInc being impressed to this level just after they talked about niggles vs dealbreakers shows that when a product is so competent in its fundamentals, it is really hard to find fault. Thank You for another great video.
Feel so proud to see an Indian motorcycle company has done its due R&D and come up with a "first of its kind* motorcycle which can cater to a large riders both in India and abroad and which is also modern looking with the latest features and yet budget friendly.
2 people can comfortably sit with 2 backpacks … this is so good … Not for me but this will help a lot of people who are making rounds in the city delivering stuff here and there maybe going door to door for work carrying equipments and luggage required for their work i.e guys working for brands like Urban Company or the people who do the jobs of AC installation and all.
A friend of mine got hold of the pre production unit, and I got a chance to drive it. It just took me back to my splendor days, it rode beautifully and calmly. Not thinking of buying one, however i had a big smile throughout the ride. PS - I keenly look forward to motorInc videos every week, to an extent where i visit the page every now and then eyeing if i have missed a notification. Lots of love ❤️
I believe the cylinder actually gives a structural regidity to the frame which would make it more rideable, less wavy shaky on highways than splendors...
Shumi recalling LML Freedom is pire nostalgia. It was a excellent bike. For a brief phase of time, people used to rate it above Splendour. Besides, LML Energy 110cc with three valve engine was a spirited communter with big bike feel back then. Lucky to have had both these bikes in my extended family circle in my younger days.
Itl be interesting to see a bigger capacity version of this , like a 160 and I am sure our awesome enthusiastic folk will take it touring. In my recent solo trip, I came across a group touring on extreme 160, they were having as fun as I was.
Wow, I may own one if it's that good, I have been riding my HH Splendor 2002 model for 22 years, it still rides the same as it did when I took its delivery, may be it's now time for a new bike.
Loved what Kartik brought up at the end. Because my first thought only a quarter of a way through the podcast was that I want to go out and TR this thing. Something I'd never want for a Pulsar 400.
I am really happy with what Bajaj has stepped into, not taking about CNG, but about uniqueness and innovation. Pulsur is one of the emotion which I think of as a aspiration, which should some day regain its stature, not by surpassing every other peer in performance( as we have a very healthy competition there) but it should take a page out of freedom in sense of uniqueness and quality engineering. I am not sure if I will buy one in the future as I have moved to higher CC segments, but man I want to see that emotion succeed. And about you guys, PLEASE don’t stop making these videos ever, I thoroughly enjoy the conversations as I can relate to them, I talk to my friends the same way you guys converse( not a journalist😅).
Had a Wagon R CNG in the family for a very long time (2004 dec make, Lovato CNG conversion kit). The only irritating point about that car was waiting in line to fill up the CNG amongst all the cabbies being irked that they are spending their working time not earning money. The CNG line is often the most guarded line. I wonder what will happen when the novelty wears off and they have to stand in the rickshaw line .That is my guess as most stations for at least two years will not bother with a separate pump for a relatively rare vehicle. Hats off to Bajaj though. P.s. Bajaj may not be off when they said cruising at sedate pace can give 115kph. my Wagon R on the highways just sitting at 80kph, gave insanely high mileage. maybe CNG fueling requires less effort to just maintain the engine that is only ticking over at a constant pace. easier to modulate the amount of gas injected resulting in smaller precise bursts through the injectors giving a higher economy
I had a Freedom 110 CC engine as my first ride! There has never been a sweeter sounding engine since. Just want to go back to LML Freedom and Adreno days 😢
Unlike most of the bikes, this one looks great in person than in picture, what a practical product, hats off bajaj 🎉, lets hope all the ither manufacturers take notes from this one. Waiting for guerrilla 450 review. Also do let us know whats more comfortable, stock seat or uplifted accessory seat as ive grown habit of all seat as it gives more comfort to me, are vibrations under control because Himalayan has got buzz/ vibration that i can't take and suspension because people mentioned its showa which is top quality but for me just because its top quality doesn't mean it does the job without having it executed properly, has to be better than hunter. As always, great conversation. Thanks 🙏
I still remember my dad riding a 1985 Bullet 350 on LPG. He had 2 small tanks in a box mounted on the side of the bike. He used to refill both the cylinders every Sunday using the LPG cylinder we used for cooking applications. This was around 2008.
There is a large population of people who care and I believe I am fairly young. Whatever you have quoted at the beginning is right but at the end I don't agree with it.
Love how Bajaj is making quality and style accessible through the Freedom. It is not giving the user in mind a bare minimum package. Instead it is giving the customer the best thing possible at the price. As always an insightful and wonderful episode from MotorInc. The best way to have spent my lunch break. Also, a question that might be a bit stupid and could be answered through a Google search. But here goes. Aren't ABS-fitted brakes mandatory? I have always noticed how MotorInc has batted for universal ABS and has called the lack of such a system, a deal breaker while considering a vehicle. Does the combi brake in the Freedom, deliver similar braking performance? Thank you and have a nice day!
@@arjunkovoor9488 Hi. The government, as per usual, didn't quite write the rule well enough/diluted it deliberately. Hence, CBS is enough for regulatory compliance. And no, ABS (even pretty basic) is far superior to CBS. CBS merely ensures that beyond a certain threshold, the front brakes will start to also be applied along with the rear brake giving you a better chance of not fishtailing. But you can easily, and absolutely will still lock-up your wheels with CBS. Even front-only ABS is better than that. And absolutely nothing like ABS front and rear. As the good folks at Motor Inc rightly hammer it home, it is a must-have (the irony of me waiting for an ABS-less Ather as I type this is something I'll try not to think about).
Apart from what Mudit said (thanks Mudit!), ABS is mandatory for 125cc and above, the Freedom is 124.XXcc. There’s also a flaw that doesn’t specify that ABS must be on all wheels 😳
@@motorinc Didn't know that part. No wonder almost all scooters get away with CBS! Always learn something relevant with you guys 😀 Edit: Off-topic, but when is the Guerrilla 450 first ride video coming out?
I might buy this bike just for the sake of its novelty and start living with it ASAP. I love the way it looks and your perspective almost paints the whole picture for me, a test ride will complete it. And to talk about the scooter part, I think it might not be happening. Since Shumi has mentioned that the CNG tank needs some open space to cool down as it runs really hot. Scooters have more body work covering them, so yeah it is just my guess with your info, they might work around it with a cooling system but, then that is going to increase the weight and equipment required. Also any info on when it is available?
I am so impressed by this bike that my expectation from Bajaj have been raised quite a bit, how amazing it would be this technology and 165cc engine from N160= wow
Shumi dada! 40:00 The fuel dispensers at Fuel Stations have different speeds at which they dispense fuel into vehicles. Filling the tiny tank using the faster speed can (will?) lead to fuel spilling outside given the small size of the tank. I have had this happen to me on my scooter.
Yes and it's something that the manufacturer has to account for. Highly unrealistic to expect us and the petrol pump operator to bear that responsibility no @RamSharma-90_64?
4:37 Best thing is that bajaj made it look cool Reminds me of where tvs failed with jive ... It looked like everything else on sale ... I rode it and it was excellent...it never sold because the technology that it had was excellent and based on youtube comments , it has been reliable .
If there was one reason needed to convince that a product like this, needed a product review format like Motorinc First, this is it. You can ride and ride the bike all day long, but once you saddle off, you sit and talk and get into the weed of things of why something just works. Great work guys. On bajaj freedom, mighty impressive to have such a disruptive product, and getting so much right in the first try. This has the potential to change the commuter segment, design of bikes, fueling infrastructure, and Bajaj's reputation. And this is going to go abroad, bring in engineering accolades as well.
The Freedom is an example why other brands are tying up with Bajaj, I N N O V A T I O N. Hope Bajaj brings out the CNG scooter too soon! In days where the social media platform is flooded with shit & crap things, you guys are only one that make me stick to TH-cam & I'm genuinely in love with the type of content you bring out & the way you present them.
Regarding seat length i think it's more to do with you can put a delivery basket and have enough space for a pillion there are fasteners added to the seat for convenience.
Bajaj freedom single handedly made my father reconsider buying a new motorcycle and letting go of his old discover, a feat which I couldn't even achieve... It reignited my father's love for motorcycles...
Bajaj products are amazing just like TVS but only thing owner's should worry is servicing it because it should be taken to authorised service centre and the guys at service centre are not trained well for petrol engines than think what would they do with this bike
Good to see shumi and Karthik so happy. Dont remember the last time they were so happy that something was launched & kudos to Bajaj. I might buy 1 for my daily office commutes. Great review guys. Thank you so much.
What an interesting motorcycle this is! So proud to see Bajaj bring in this innovative product. While I may never buy it, I'm halfway through, and smiling that they've done it so well. Great coverage like always! 👌🏻
Every now and then Bajaj comes up with an unconventional but verryyy appealing design. Like the V15. I always hoped that they'd translate the V15 to V400 or something. Making the gear a little short and the 373 cc engine a little calm. Would've made a lot of sens.e
@@motorinc it would have been much better than the ns400z. The whole point is that indians don't always look for speed. They look for identity, authenticity, a well tuned engine and comfort. People love the ktms, REs and all those for these reasons. Bajaj however fails to identify this. They always think performance is what made the old pulsars a hit.
I would love to test this bike, despite it not being my kind of bike. I love that Karthik brought up the fact that the workmen bikes shouldn't be just boring and plain! I love the innovation that Bajaj, out of all the brands, to come up with this! I hope that other brands in India use this technology to develop their own kind of motorcycles, with different shapes and sizes! OMG I loved the Honda Grom reference too!! Overall, really looking forward to this bike dominating the 100-150cc family bike market! Kudos to Bajaj
8:56 Finally.... One of the very few channels that has the courage to address this long seat issue and condemned on the speech of Rajiv Bajaj.. 4 people riding on a bike is illegal & it's really unsafe & dangerous (ofcourse not all the 4 is gonna wear helmets) thing to do on public roads which may lead to accident of other riders on the roads. And the story that he narrated about how he felt when he was travelling in his car and he saw a middle class family with a children bla bla bla was really unacceptable. Kudos to you guys for speaking it loud. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I'm really proud & happy to be a long time follower of Shumi & Karthik.. ❤️❤️ P.S: I own a BAJAJ DOMINAR 400 & I'm happy with my bike.
It's really good to see an Indian company coming up with innovative products like these. I really hope this becomes a commercial success, and doesn't get branded as a delivery guy motorcycle We still need to figure out the alternate fuel approach for motorcycles and this could be a step in the right direction I feel that vehicles like these could become the middle ground between ev scooters and high performance petrol motorcycles, talking to the conservative buyers in between
I wish we had professors and teachers like Shumi in school and colleges. I would have scored so much higher. What a pleasure to be listening to you guys❤
How do you transition or adjust to riding or testing different types of vehicles and of different power & torque.. I find it astonishing.. do you need to spend some time with the vehicle or do you connect with it instantly?
This is second time, I saw Shumi sir kid like excited. First one was during 250 duke podcast!😅 His excitement levels tell all about the product quality!
Just saw the Kawasaki H2 HySE. The first thought I had was, Guys! Get in touch with your old friends in Pune😄. Bajaj has been testing Wind/Platina CNG, Electric Scooters, and Electric Qute since the mid-2000s. One problem, though, is that Vanaz already has CNG kits for Activa and Jupiter. If Bajaj doesn't do it, others will for sure! Quick suggestion. You should add one more to the set of videos per product. Onboard POV.
Said it before and will say it again. This bike is a phenomenal release. So unique and innovative yet it looks beautiful. A perfect bike for the real India.
Shumi, man you are rocking and talking non stop without a water. So detail and logic. Is there any possibility to ride and review for Simple one scooter?
Hey, What are empty shifts? Also I want your guidance with my fz25 having very hard shifting especially between 1st and 2nd. Observation: Smooth when cold; progressively difficult later on
Experience was great I myself put the all the accessories like the saare gaurd and all others Still clutch control is sensitive if left a little more the bike stops but it is the thing which one will get used to Also a good feature the instrument cluster has variable brightness it's bright in day and dim in night Brakes are great pickup is also great doesn't feel like a commuter I was a owner of platina h gear bought that bike to save fuel now the fuel savings is even great @@motorinc
We all can agree you guys are one of the best and most honest automotive journalists in India, but let's be real, I'm also here for the fashion rehab. Both of you have a style game that’s on point
The combined range is less than a 10-13 ltr petrol tank bike. Why was twin rear shockers not possible.. would it have made more space for the tank and may be reduced the height of the seat . How is the auto transition of CNG to petrol and vice versa feel.. is it the same as you manually switch.. Also, I feel filling CNG won't be that much of a hassle because if you go any petrol pump you would need to wait 10 mins generally.. this might be a little longer. But visits to refuel whether petrol or CNG will be more frequent.. may be almost twice given the power and torque are close to a 100 cc bike... Say it gives a efficiency of 50 kmpl and with a 10 ltr tank, 500 kms is when you would do the next refuel.. here it's just 300+ combined. Really good video.. nice explanation.
Great great review, as usual I must say. Great infos, great stories, great tips, great smile. As if they are my brothers, i feel at home, enjoying the ride as if jumping on the motorcycle. On petrol or gas, let's not ride on the economy of fun.
I was happy to see one on road the other day in my area but the only concern to me is the lack of CNG fuel stations .....& The queue on that only one CNG station that we have was horrifying
This is a very important step in our auto scene. With EV bikes not having great options, this was the cleaner fuel alternative that we need. And this is good that they took their time to design it and do it properly rather than a quick hash product like the NS400Z. This is a milestone and hopefully we get more of the NS variants and the NG variants in various shapes and forms as Shumi said. Any news on the Basalt launch though?
Owner of FREEDOM 125💪 super drivability agile planted ,but in mud terrian tire grips gets off ,Petrol pickup super ,CNG pickup slight down.Headturner fair enough,but handle height is shorter needs height,but Nirmala Sitaraman scares more because she'll increase cost of CNG😢😢😢😢.
To me this feels like the true flagship bike of Bajaj and also effectively i think this is the king in the market as there are no direct CNG competitors for this bike.
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*Chapters*
00:00 Well Received
01:45 Not Like a Bajaj
04:26 Not Like a Commuter
05:19 Other CNGs Coming?
06:06 Design
08:32 How Freedom Was Built
16:02 Living With the Weight
17:24 Is It Safe?
21:43 Performance
24:11 CNG vs Petrol
27:23 Fuel Economy
28:10 Living With CNG
29:23 Rivals?
30:50 CNG Scooter?
32:04 Riding The Freedom
33:53 Pricing
35:00 Feels Proper
36:38 Seat Hurts
37:37 Flagship-grade!
39:20 Interesting Details
40:40 It's Good
42:37 Closing Comments
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@@motorinc I've seen the whole video 👍🏻 it's a new world 🌎
In a first, MotorInc appreciated a bike, made by none other than Bajaj, and not for its performance. Says a lot about how well NG04 is made.
i was wondering why you didn't discuss or explain - why bajaj decided to go petrol + CNG instead of pure CNG bike??
it could...
reduce complexity
reduce weight
reduce cost
slightly increase CNG storage capacity, range & mileage
so why not pure CNG 2 wheeler?
& when you where discussing about possibilities of an CNG + petrol scooter you forgot the point that when customer is purchasing a scooter, they expect good amount of under seat storage space, which is not possible if you put a CNG tank & petrol tank on a scooter. It will also increase weight of scooter. which simply means that its no longer good for elders & female riders.
While I may not purchase this bike, it's fantastic to see Bajaj leading innovation in India. I hope this inspires other domestic companies to follow suit.
We do too @Techno_Babble.
In terms of this, they're leading innovative not just in India but the world.
But No innovation for Pulsar 😅
@@venkateshmadhekar359 Pulsar is like the child who had a lot of potential when he was a kid but grew up to be very average !😂😅
@@mmusaafir 😂now Duke is a step child
This show is single handedly maintaining my attention span , can't remember I sat for an hour last time without moving .
Thank you @notad3tya129.
Now we know where bajaj used all their R&D money instead of NS400z 😂
Lol🤣🤣
Real
Proof that Bajaj is (B) right.
Lol
Every time I watch shumi talk…at first it’s like how much this guy talks…but after a few mins I start thinking how much this guy knows
Bajaj has done their homework very well. I might be overanalyzing but the bluetooth call button seems like a really good idea. Most of the time the delivery guys get a lot of calls when they're on the bike they've to remove phones from pocket or fiddle with their earphones buttons to accept calls if phone is not mounted on handlebar. Giving that call accepting button was a good gesture that I'm sure a lot of workmen will appreciate.
having a call button on a bike is problematic because of regular presses could make it unusable and how these cokpanies manufacture their button housing because of one button whole assembly needs replacement.
its not about making life easy with a solution. i say by not having a solution at all is a much better choice.
besides people woud rather stuff their phones inside their helmet than to use an app which as to connect to vehicle as well as to communicator. these vehicle app system never works with 100% reliability.
Thanks for pointing it out @gaurangnaik850.
@@Dkm337
Sorry bro. But I don't think the buttons are that bad. May be you have a bad experience.
I sold my pulsar 180 2013 at 1.15 lakh(11500) kms after 7 years. Buttons were working fine.. and I used button a lot like high beam low beam or indicators or dipper. I have done lot of night riding on it..
@@nishantpratapsingh6628 no no its not like that, picture this. buttons of today now come bundled inside, how should i say this? lets say indicator and horn and headlamp toggle and then there is your tactile buttons. there are chances with regular use things will break in a sense where a simple press will not do the action. especially tactile switches they do loose their tactility and connection, overtime. and since these swich clusters usually dont come with replace individual part and replace individually, you have to buy the whole assembly where the indicator may work but you still have to replace it because your horn or call button broke. that is what i was saying. i have 23 year old 2stroke bike things dont break that easily yes but they lose the feedback becase metal connector fatigues over use. my concern is the everything on one control assembly and not being able to avail and replace individual component with tiny screws behind them. and the whole nonsense of mobile app connectivity and their reliability.
Yup agree with you.
This video clears the doubts on anyone who thinks that auto-journalists who ride fast and expensive machines won't be interested in a 125. MotorInc being impressed to this level just after they talked about niggles vs dealbreakers shows that when a product is so competent in its fundamentals, it is really hard to find fault. Thank You for another great video.
Thank you for joining us @_Adv8_
Feel so proud to see an Indian motorcycle company has done its due R&D and come up with a "first of its kind* motorcycle which can cater to a large riders both in India and abroad and which is also modern looking with the latest features and yet budget friendly.
Shumi's explanation about transition between Petrol to CNG and other way round is killer!!
Thank you @shreyas_ad
2 people can comfortably sit with 2 backpacks … this is so good …
Not for me but this will help a lot of people who are making rounds in the city delivering stuff here and there maybe going door to door for work carrying equipments and luggage required for their work i.e guys working for brands like Urban Company or the people who do the jobs of AC installation and all.
No that's pure, unadulterated journalism! Thank you guys!!
A friend of mine got hold of the pre production unit, and I got a chance to drive it.
It just took me back to my splendor days, it rode beautifully and calmly. Not thinking of buying one, however i had a big smile throughout the ride.
PS - I keenly look forward to motorInc videos every week, to an extent where i visit the page every now and then eyeing if i have missed a notification.
Lots of love ❤️
Thank you for joining us @ajinkyatripathi2248!
I love when shumi goes into educator mode. He’d make a fabulous teacher.
Thanks LZ! ❤️
@@randompie5558that's fine... Even 1 litre milk is never 1kg... It's around 1.03 kgs
He is already an instructor bro.
He does*
Damn I've been soo immersed by the DisConnect sessions that Even after the video ended I was waiting for the synchronised Disconnect! 😄😄
😅😂
I think this is the first time in a quite some time Shumi Sir has talked about a motorcycle, that too a Bajaj, which such happiness.
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I believe the cylinder actually gives a structural regidity to the frame which would make it more rideable, less wavy shaky on highways than splendors...
Yes..because the cng tanks themselves need to be extremely strong
Very happy to see Bajaj leading the world in CNG 2W innovation. Having to hear Rajiv anytime anywhere is the icing on the cake. What a personality 😊
We are too @suryaattitude. Let this be a good start of many more to come.
Bajaj and Shumi in sync for the first time... 😊
Shumi recalling LML Freedom is pire nostalgia. It was a excellent bike. For a brief phase of time, people used to rate it above Splendour.
Besides, LML Energy 110cc with three valve engine was a spirited communter with big bike feel back then. Lucky to have had both these bikes in my extended family circle in my younger days.
Itl be interesting to see a bigger capacity version of this , like a 160 and I am sure our awesome enthusiastic folk will take it touring.
In my recent solo trip, I came across a group touring on extreme 160, they were having as fun as I was.
We should embrace the technology.
Commendable video as usual.
We agree @dr.pushpakmali5261. Bajaj has done something commendable here for sure.
I have already booked mine and am eagerly waiting for the delivery and this video puts my mind at ease. Love your content.
Congratulations @SeemaSingh-jn5sd! Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks for putting it out in open for the normal public.. 😊 thanks.
[ would have had to miss it otherwise].
Really enjoyed.
Glad you enjoyed it @vipinnambiar1724!
Wow, I may own one if it's that good, I have been riding my HH Splendor 2002 model for 22 years, it still rides the same as it did when I took its delivery, may be it's now time for a new bike.
Definitely take a test ride @VinayKumar-db4qz.
Loved what Kartik brought up at the end. Because my first thought only a quarter of a way through the podcast was that I want to go out and TR this thing. Something I'd never want for a Pulsar 400.
Do try it @MuditBadlani! And thank you for joining us for this one.
I am really happy with what Bajaj has stepped into, not taking about CNG, but about uniqueness and innovation. Pulsur is one of the emotion which I think of as a aspiration, which should some day regain its stature, not by surpassing every other peer in performance( as we have a very healthy competition there) but it should take a page out of freedom in sense of uniqueness and quality engineering. I am not sure if I will buy one in the future as I have moved to higher CC segments, but man I want to see that emotion succeed.
And about you guys, PLEASE don’t stop making these videos ever, I thoroughly enjoy the conversations as I can relate to them, I talk to my friends the same way you guys converse( not a journalist😅).
Thank you for the kind words @Scither- we don't plan to!😅
Had a Wagon R CNG in the family for a very long time (2004 dec make, Lovato CNG conversion kit). The only irritating point about that car was waiting in line to fill up the CNG amongst all the cabbies being irked that they are spending their working time not earning money. The CNG line is often the most guarded line. I wonder what will happen when the novelty wears off and they have to stand in the rickshaw line .That is my guess as most stations for at least two years will not bother with a separate pump for a relatively rare vehicle.
Hats off to Bajaj though.
P.s. Bajaj may not be off when they said cruising at sedate pace can give 115kph. my Wagon R on the highways just sitting at 80kph, gave insanely high mileage. maybe CNG fueling requires less effort to just maintain the engine that is only ticking over at a constant pace. easier to modulate the amount of gas injected resulting in smaller precise bursts through the injectors giving a higher economy
Solid points, both, Doc!
I had a Freedom 110 CC engine as my first ride! There has never been a sweeter sounding engine since.
Just want to go back to LML Freedom and Adreno days 😢
Bhaiya ye wo nahi hai
Unlike most of the bikes, this one looks great in person than in picture, what a practical product, hats off bajaj 🎉, lets hope all the ither manufacturers take notes from this one.
Waiting for guerrilla 450 review.
Also do let us know whats more comfortable, stock seat or uplifted accessory seat as ive grown habit of all seat as it gives more comfort to me, are vibrations under control because Himalayan has got buzz/ vibration that i can't take and suspension because people mentioned its showa which is top quality but for me just because its top quality doesn't mean it does the job without having it executed properly, has to be better than hunter.
As always, great conversation. Thanks 🙏
I still remember my dad riding a 1985 Bullet 350 on LPG. He had 2 small tanks in a box mounted on the side of the bike. He used to refill both the cylinders every Sunday using the LPG cylinder we used for cooking applications. This was around 2008.
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Gr8 timing..super quick...exactly what youngsters viewers wanted right now...who cares about heating up 400 cc segment!
I was looking for someone to point this out😂
I do care for the 400cc segment because it is aspirational that is also attainable, you can buy 1 lakh rupees bike without much headache.
There is a large population of people who care and I believe I am fairly young. Whatever you have quoted at the beginning is right but at the end I don't agree with it.
This bike is so aesthetically pleasing. I hope we get more such designs.
Really liked the matching shoes of Karthik and Shumi
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Wow so cool review!! A great innovation from Indian Manufacturer!!
Love the innovative idea of Bajaj. More & more bikes & car companies should spend money on R&D be it on engine or innovative designs.
I agree totally agree with schumi, if the platina can get abs then why was such a revolutionary product left out
Love how Bajaj is making quality and style accessible through the Freedom. It is not giving the user in mind a bare minimum package. Instead it is giving the customer the best thing possible at the price. As always an insightful and wonderful episode from MotorInc. The best way to have spent my lunch break.
Also, a question that might be a bit stupid and could be answered through a Google search. But here goes.
Aren't ABS-fitted brakes mandatory? I have always noticed how MotorInc has batted for universal ABS and has called the lack of such a system, a deal breaker while considering a vehicle. Does the combi brake in the Freedom, deliver similar braking performance?
Thank you and have a nice day!
@@arjunkovoor9488 Hi. The government, as per usual, didn't quite write the rule well enough/diluted it deliberately.
Hence, CBS is enough for regulatory compliance.
And no, ABS (even pretty basic) is far superior to CBS. CBS merely ensures that beyond a certain threshold, the front brakes will start to also be applied along with the rear brake giving you a better chance of not fishtailing. But you can easily, and absolutely will still lock-up your wheels with CBS.
Even front-only ABS is better than that. And absolutely nothing like ABS front and rear. As the good folks at Motor Inc rightly hammer it home, it is a must-have (the irony of me waiting for an ABS-less Ather as I type this is something I'll try not to think about).
@@MuditBadlani thank you for explaining :)
Apart from what Mudit said (thanks Mudit!), ABS is mandatory for 125cc and above, the Freedom is 124.XXcc. There’s also a flaw that doesn’t specify that ABS must be on all wheels 😳
@@motorinc Didn't know that part. No wonder almost all scooters get away with CBS!
Always learn something relevant with you guys 😀
Edit: Off-topic, but when is the Guerrilla 450 first ride video coming out?
Really impressed with Bajaj. 👌🏾 Seems like they had put an entirely different team dedicated only for this project.
Beautiful work by Bajaj and Motorinc (as always). I don't know how you guys do it, but everytime I comment the same. Totally enjoyable.
Thank you for joining us @shaktiswarupsarangi8130.
I might buy this bike just for the sake of its novelty and start living with it ASAP. I love the way it looks and your perspective almost paints the whole picture for me, a test ride will complete it. And to talk about the scooter part, I think it might not be happening. Since Shumi has mentioned that the CNG tank needs some open space to cool down as it runs really hot. Scooters have more body work covering them, so yeah it is just my guess with your info, they might work around it with a cooling system but, then that is going to increase the weight and equipment required. Also any info on when it is available?
I am so impressed by this bike that my expectation from Bajaj have been raised quite a bit, how amazing it would be this technology and 165cc engine from N160= wow
Wow, that intro is something else. Screams Quality ❤❤❤
Thank you Rohit!
Thanks for the video guys.
I hope to continue the quality & attention to detail to on coming Bajaj bikes
Shumi dada! 40:00
The fuel dispensers at Fuel Stations have different speeds at which they dispense fuel into vehicles.
Filling the tiny tank using the faster speed can (will?) lead to fuel spilling outside given the small size of the tank.
I have had this happen to me on my scooter.
Yes and it's something that the manufacturer has to account for. Highly unrealistic to expect us and the petrol pump operator to bear that responsibility no @RamSharma-90_64?
@@motorinc what could they have done as per you?? Just curious
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Best thing is that bajaj made it look cool
Reminds me of where tvs failed with jive ... It looked like everything else on sale ... I rode it and it was excellent...it never sold because the technology that it had was excellent and based on youtube comments , it has been reliable .
This is why I come to this channel! They go beyond the spec sheet !
Thank you @octaofficial7481.
CNG Kits require periodic service & sometimes even a different grade engine oil. It will be interesting to understand more on this topic.
If there was one reason needed to convince that a product like this, needed a product review format like Motorinc First, this is it. You can ride and ride the bike all day long, but once you saddle off, you sit and talk and get into the weed of things of why something just works. Great work guys.
On bajaj freedom, mighty impressive to have such a disruptive product, and getting so much right in the first try. This has the potential to change the commuter segment, design of bikes, fueling infrastructure, and Bajaj's reputation. And this is going to go abroad, bring in engineering accolades as well.
Thank you @pawasdayal.
Love the happiness in Shumi and Karthik. ❤❤
The Freedom is an example why other brands are tying up with Bajaj, I N N O V A T I O N. Hope Bajaj brings out the CNG scooter too soon!
In days where the social media platform is flooded with shit & crap things, you guys are only one that make me stick to TH-cam & I'm genuinely in love with the type of content you bring out & the way you present them.
Thank you for joining us @ArunSapaare!
Regarding seat length i think it's more to do with you can put a delivery basket and have enough space for a pillion there are fasteners added to the seat for convenience.
there were so many review of this bike but, i knew what i was waithing for
Thank you for waiting @jack76thegamer30!
Kartik and Shumi, nice review straight from heart. Happy to see Bajaj leading such innovations!
Bajaj freedom single handedly made my father reconsider buying a new motorcycle and letting go of his old discover, a feat which I couldn't even achieve... It reignited my father's love for motorcycles...
For petrol tank anxiety ... We should rely on RE expertise of shaking tank.
I learned how to ride a motorcycle on LML Freedom ❤
Please bring us the comparison between updated n160 and other
Bajaj products are amazing just like TVS but only thing owner's should worry is servicing it because it should be taken to authorised service centre and the guys at service centre are not trained well for petrol engines than think what would they do with this bike
Good to see shumi and Karthik so happy. Dont remember the last time they were so happy that something was launched & kudos to Bajaj. I might buy 1 for my daily office commutes. Great review guys. Thank you so much.
Thank you for watching @madihalli! Be sure to take a test ride before you decide.
You two are a class apart. This is very well put together information. Never been disappointed by your content!
Thank you very much @krunx2360.
What an interesting motorcycle this is! So proud to see Bajaj bring in this innovative product. While I may never buy it, I'm halfway through, and smiling that they've done it so well.
Great coverage like always! 👌🏻
Thank you for joining us @ishaanagrawal2763!
Friends, could you do a detailed program on Honda 300R please.
Every now and then Bajaj comes up with an unconventional but verryyy appealing design. Like the V15.
I always hoped that they'd translate the V15 to V400 or something. Making the gear a little short and the 373 cc engine a little calm. Would've made a lot of sens.e
Interesting! Is that something you think would fare well today @Antonyeratt?
@@motorinc it would have been much better than the ns400z. The whole point is that indians don't always look for speed. They look for identity, authenticity, a well tuned engine and comfort. People love the ktms, REs and all those for these reasons. Bajaj however fails to identify this. They always think performance is what made the old pulsars a hit.
I would love to test this bike, despite it not being my kind of bike. I love that Karthik brought up the fact that the workmen bikes shouldn't be just boring and plain! I love the innovation that Bajaj, out of all the brands, to come up with this! I hope that other brands in India use this technology to develop their own kind of motorcycles, with different shapes and sizes! OMG I loved the Honda Grom reference too!! Overall, really looking forward to this bike dominating the 100-150cc family bike market! Kudos to Bajaj
8:56 Finally.... One of the very few channels that has the courage to address this long seat issue and condemned on the speech of Rajiv Bajaj.. 4 people riding on a bike is illegal & it's really unsafe & dangerous (ofcourse not all the 4 is gonna wear helmets) thing to do on public roads which may lead to accident of other riders on the roads. And the story that he narrated about how he felt when he was travelling in his car and he saw a middle class family with a children bla bla bla was really unacceptable. Kudos to you guys for speaking it loud. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I'm really proud & happy to be a long time follower of Shumi & Karthik.. ❤️❤️
P.S: I own a BAJAJ DOMINAR 400 & I'm happy with my bike.
Thanks for sharing your perspective @yogeshkumar-ly9gl
I also feel like owning one, for the novelty of it
It's really good to see an Indian company coming up with innovative products like these.
I really hope this becomes a commercial success, and doesn't get branded as a delivery guy motorcycle
We still need to figure out the alternate fuel approach for motorcycles and this could be a step in the right direction
I feel that vehicles like these could become the middle ground between ev scooters and high performance petrol motorcycles, talking to the conservative buyers in between
I wish we had professors and teachers like Shumi in school and colleges. I would have scored so much higher. What a pleasure to be listening to you guys❤
Thank you @omcarrides.
100% agree with the payload comment. It is like encouraging people towards dangerous riding.
How do you transition or adjust to riding or testing different types of vehicles and of different power & torque.. I find it astonishing.. do you need to spend some time with the vehicle or do you connect with it instantly?
It looks so good. Yes. YES. If they get a pure petrol version of this SAME thing ! Would be sooo good !!!
Thank you for mentioning the LML Freedom ❤
Shumi, Tell me, which one is better as a whole package... Platina 110 ABS? Or Freedom?
I think the problem you said would have been true if the CNG switch is on the right side because that’s where the engine kill switch usually is.
This is second time, I saw Shumi sir kid like excited. First one was during 250 duke podcast!😅 His excitement levels tell all about the product quality!
Thanks for joining us @subhashbhattcmgmsxfwah9157!
Just saw the Kawasaki H2 HySE. The first thought I had was, Guys! Get in touch with your old friends in Pune😄. Bajaj has been testing Wind/Platina CNG, Electric Scooters, and Electric Qute since the mid-2000s. One problem, though, is that Vanaz already has CNG kits for Activa and Jupiter. If Bajaj doesn't do it, others will for sure! Quick suggestion. You should add one more to the set of videos per product. Onboard POV.
Thank you for the info and the suggestion @virajvrooms!
I wish they add more petrol storage to it so we can have more effective range. But kudos to Bajaj for coming up with this innovative product.!
Said it before and will say it again. This bike is a phenomenal release. So unique and innovative yet it looks beautiful. A perfect bike for the real India.
Shumi, man you are rocking and talking non stop without a water. So detail and logic. Is there any possibility to ride and review for Simple one scooter?
First Ride of Guerrilla 450 and How it stands against speed 400.. it's a conversation I am waiting very eagerly
Waiting to ride it @roketrock.
Need a front visor handle and key switch very close. 1st observation buying my frnd yesterday
Hey,
What are empty shifts?
Also I want your guidance with my fz25 having very hard shifting especially between 1st and 2nd.
Observation: Smooth when cold; progressively difficult later on
I think TVS has announced a CNG version of Jupiter 125. I will be interesting to see how it pens out.
Just purchased it
You cleared all my doubts
Waiting for delivering
Congratulations @masterology9349! Let us know how the delivery experience goes.
Congratulations @masterology9349! Let us know how the delivery experience goes.
Experience was great I myself put the all the accessories like the saare gaurd and all others
Still clutch control is sensitive if left a little more the bike stops but it is the thing which one will get used to
Also a good feature the instrument cluster has variable brightness it's bright in day and dim in night
Brakes are great pickup is also great doesn't feel like a commuter I was a owner of platina h gear bought that bike to save fuel now the fuel savings is even great @@motorinc
Which varient should we buy?
Can't wait any longer, please do the Guerrilla 450 already.. I check MotorInc channel almost everyday now, hoping to see a first impressions video.
Stay tuned @faraanrocks14.
No offense, but in left thumb in commuters is generally headlights full and low beam...engine off on is on the right thumb...but I get the point
We all can agree you guys are one of the best and most honest automotive journalists in India, but let's be real, I'm also here for the fashion rehab. Both of you have a style game that’s on point
Thank you for the double compliments @mohamednaflan4361 😅
31:34 on that note TVS is making scooter for Jupiter 125
The combined range is less than a 10-13 ltr petrol tank bike.
Why was twin rear shockers not possible.. would it have made more space for the tank and may be reduced the height of the seat .
How is the auto transition of CNG to petrol and vice versa feel.. is it the same as you manually switch..
Also, I feel filling CNG won't be that much of a hassle because if you go any petrol pump you would need to wait 10 mins generally.. this might be a little longer. But visits to refuel whether petrol or CNG will be more frequent.. may be almost twice given the power and torque are close to a 100 cc bike... Say it gives a efficiency of 50 kmpl and with a 10 ltr tank, 500 kms is when you would do the next refuel.. here it's just 300+ combined.
Really good video.. nice explanation.
Thanks for adding to our takes @Janemenjay. Once we get a test bike, we'll be able to know things better.
At this point I would like a compitition between cng chetak and cng eterno
Haha would be an interesting throwback if it happens 😅
Just the one thing missing from Bajaj's arsenal is a Good Adventure Motorcycle....
and a fast scooter like aerox but with a bigger tank and softer suspensions
Great great review, as usual I must say. Great infos, great stories, great tips, great smile. As if they are my brothers, i feel at home, enjoying the ride as if jumping on the motorcycle. On petrol or gas, let's not ride on the economy of fun.
booked 1...delivery expected by mnth end or so was promised .....overlooking the DONT BUY FIRST BATCH units advice nd xperiance with CB350
Congratulations @latemtdg2712! Let us know your experience after taking delivery.
I was happy to see one on road the other day in my area but the only concern to me is the lack of CNG fuel stations .....& The queue on that only one CNG station that we have was horrifying
We expect that to get better if this becomes a hit @archieslopestar587. 🤞🏾
@@motorinc amen to that
This is a very important step in our auto scene. With EV bikes not having great options, this was the cleaner fuel alternative that we need. And this is good that they took their time to design it and do it properly rather than a quick hash product like the NS400Z.
This is a milestone and hopefully we get more of the NS variants and the NG variants in various shapes and forms as Shumi said.
Any news on the Basalt launch though?
We hope so too @BhaskaraVenkatesh! As for the Basalt, we're waiting for first drives.
Owner of FREEDOM 125💪 super drivability agile planted ,but in mud terrian tire grips gets off ,Petrol pickup super ,CNG pickup slight down.Headturner fair enough,but handle height is shorter needs height,but Nirmala Sitaraman scares more because she'll increase cost of CNG😢😢😢😢.
To me this feels like the true flagship bike of Bajaj and also effectively i think this is the king in the market as there are no direct CNG competitors for this bike.
If it becomes a success, there'll be many in no time @vishnumohan5603.
43:23 on antenna pod as well.
If they really launch a CNG scooter like Shumi said, it would be awesome. I can’t imagine how it would look.
Hopefully like a normal scooter @sacchii9445 😆