You did a terrible job tbh. Four patches later and the game still isnt't finished? It crashes constanlty. NPCs just stand in the middle of the road a lot and block buses from getting past, or just walk straight into your bus or straight out in front of it which costs 20 grand each time. Was also a problem in Bus Sim 18, thought you would've fixed that. NPCs fail at taking corners in a double decker way too often, they don't open the doors on the Blue Bird Sigma or the Alexander Dennis Enviro200 single decker. Sort it out.
Looking at the past games of the studio, I kinda knew how sim like the experience was really going to be and was happy with that when I bought it. I do agree though that if a title has the word "simulator" in it, one would likely expect "sim-level" quality. I don't think you should have to look at the past games of the studio to gauge how sim like the product will be, but maybe it is worth doing to double check.
I like the changes to the route and payday system tho its very confusing and takes getting used to. In its current state, I wouldn't buy it until further updates. What annoys me the most in this game is the cockpit dashboard and the fact I can't play in realistic mode because of the buttons are blocked by the name pop ups. Also the steering doesn't feel as smooth as Bus Sim 18 currently. And the AI cars can be weird sometimes and just not move and keep u waiting but pedestrians crossing the road have been improved a lot and will run or stop so u can avoid hitting them.
Yes, one of my main niggles about BS18 was the 'garage' - which was so lacking as to be useless. It was an end of shift parking point and setting off point and that all. I wanted a proper garage and office where timetable and maintenance could be undergone IF you wanted. I wanted the ability to be 'promoted' to an inspector or a manger IF you wanted! IRONICALLY, I am not a 'hardcore' sim fan, just a more casual fan but I STILL feel these features are essential and wanted. I have decided to skip BS21 and wait for the next implementation, where I would like to see mini-buses, taxis and tourist coaches and event coach hire included. Excellent video, thank you.
Very good video, and a great review! I just discovered your channel and I am really enjoying your content! I'm pretty sure that some of the buses e.g. Grande West, Blue Bird haven't had their audio recorded for the game yet due to lockdown, hence why some buses have inaccurate sounds. One thing that disappoints me a bit, is that buses such as the Scania don't have their unique indicator sounds, which is unrealistic.
I completed both 16 and 18, and what I liked about 16 was that you could do 3-digit line numbers already (which got taken away in 18, for whatever reason). I had hoped that 21 would eventually give the player the opportunity to change the destination boards on the bus (at least front) from one trip to another fluently without having to create two lines facing opposite directions and naming them 3A and 3B respectively. The timetable function is definitely a big improvement, but it still isn't what I had hoped it to be. Why no busses between midnight and 4 AM? Why is there no variable peak time? In Switzerland for example it's more like 6:30 to 8:30 in the morning and 16:00 to 19:00 in the evening rather than 4:00 to 9:00 and 14:00 to 19:00 (both way too long). Also, why only one type of day? Why no weekend day or holiday? I still have low hopes that there will be a major update some day which will enhance the planning aspect.
i loved 18 more, the route system was better, now you have take over a bus from a driver, in the 18 version you started at the garage and when your route was completed you returned the bus there, i liked that better, perhaps its possible because i am new to 21 and havent figured it out yet.
Great review mate, was very helpfull! So far the main negative point for me are the reused sounds on the new buses, with so many of them they berly spend the time to dedicate to each one some love.
omsi has the best physics calculation, try some good optimized maps, u will feel everything is so true to the game called earth online, plus u can write scripts to make all kinds of stuffs(electric,hybrid) come true
@@SimUKReviews I praised your review on the steam post as well. And don't worry about the 10 dislikes. That's not that many, and after all you can't make anyone happy
of course it's better than 18 have everything with all content of 18 but with the 21 mechanics even with the bugs , game still looks and plays great for any bus enthusiast player it's a most buy
Some are saying that the bus of bs18 are better the 21 one, they just the same and there is more bus on the 21 one but I respect the opinion of other, for me bs21 is better
I’d say I’d get it But it isn’t very high on my list because other games do exist and are better games Here’s my list 1: The Bus This game doesn’t compare The Bus holds better road detail because the roads in this BS21 are more arcade like and doesn’t really carry the same immersion and realistic driving Let’s not forget the buses carry full realistic weight and honestly feels a lot more realistic in terms of AI because there are larger roads 2: Omsi 2 Although the graphics are tacky sometimes The buses are very realistic and the AI is less realistic but the more maps routes buses and you can call it the biggest open world game 3: Munich Bus Simulator This game feels like the better version of BS21 if earlier suggestions I’ve made were added in and I hope to see this on Xbox 4: Bus Simulator 18 The map is better in my opinion
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 my list is: Omsi 2 I think its the more realistic bus game (not with graphic)alot of bus, good dlc and mod Bs21 and bs18 Realistic graphic, alot of bus, good dlc, multiplayer The bus The best bus game with graphic Big map
Lack of Engines sound and transmission authenticity is what makes me upset the most. Grande West supposed to have Cummins/ZF transmission setup all the bus sounds the same. Bendy buses can’t even reach 30mph fast. In my state NJ Transit had an 2004 Neoplan that had CAT/ZF transmission 6 speed bendy bus that hit 70mph. These buses in this game can’t reach highway speeds fast enough. It’s like they locked the acceleration and force feed back bug is locked at 10,000%. I’m at level 117 now.
@@SimUKReviews for real man don’t make me cry. Although I’m not in expert in European buses. I wish they more US brands, and do you know when the transmission update coming?
Simple answer is NO. Its Not better than 18, not even close. Graphics are bad, dull, gameplay is Over complicated now, with its crazy menus etc. Controls more weird and difficult. Glitches like sitting down, you can't get back up. Roads are not clearly visible, bus stops not clear or the map!! Definately NOT worth the extortion price they charge for the game! Bus 18 was easy to control, roads, graphics were clear, visible and really nice map. Was a joy to drive in 18. No silly time warp or confusing menus. All they had too do, was leave the game as it was in 18 "perfect".. And just add new maps, areas and missions. Simple really. Just leave the mechanics, controls, graphics, way they were.
What would you recommend buying The Bus or Bus sim 21 ? I’m playing on PC and have a sim rig so after the best experience sim wise I play a lot of ATS/ETS 2 but I have no previous experience with Bus games
It kills me that this game is so amazing yet the sensitivity in acceleration and braking is disgusting. In 18 I felt the real amount of pressure when pressing on the brakes and gas when driving. In 21, it feels like I'm playing on a computer. All pressure equals an immediate stop and while accelerating mo matter how slight I press it, it keeps accelerating. This is highly annoying and don't know if I'm doing something wrong or the game is bugged with performance
may i ask which on of your pcs was running this game as the frame rate fluxuated quite alot just to know how demanding this is as my pc is decent at best
The busses feel like they're riding flat all the time, there's no suspension feel whatsoever. I took a corner going 40mph and the bus stayed flat like a sports car and went right around it, very weird indeed. I want to feel the suspension depress and bus to feel like it's dipping and bumping all over the road, Truck Simulator was able to add this effect with sliders. I don't see why they couldn't fix this.
im looking to buy this game! I am also thankful for the very honest yet detailed review...for me its not worth the 30 usd they are asking i will prlly wait for a sale tysm again!! sub'd and lov'd ♥
Nice review as always. I say the same thing on my channel to leave a comment as it helps the algorithm, as I feel like TH-cam hates my channel as well lol.
I have like 3× double decker and also it has a reality to it.But it's like crashing somewhere like in the roundabout I am playing it right now.I made it pink with something on oakwood.
Oh well, looks like I will be sticking with OMSI2 for some time to come, you didn't let us hear the sounds, but looking at the video, it looks so gamey, with the bus just floating along, no reaction to bumps at all, maybe the sounds would have helped a bit, but no, it looks like yet again, it is a game with no atmosphere at all.
Bit late to the party but how is the game now in terms of bugs etc? Thinking of buying for ps5 but I’m on the fence and can’t find any new videos on it… maybe that’s a bad sign lol.
How does this compare to ATS or ETS2? im looking for a bus sim that can be played with mouse and keyborad but it dosent feel too arcade and can run on a lower end asus tuf laptop
@@SimUKReviews Thanks for the reply! So speaking of specs do you think a lower end laptop can handle it okay? I have a Ryzen 5 3550 with a Radeon RX 560X. It can handle a lot of sim games at 20-30fps okay so dunno if it will be okay with this one or should i get one of the older games.
Thanks....in my pre release version, maybe. Although the type of bugs I suspect will be fixable and hopefully not part of release :-) I have loads of gameplay footage on the channel which is unedited, so you can see for yourself too.
lol indeed. Well I am pushing V hard for a freeplay mode & they cannot cater for refuelling etc because their license does not allow it, so I am pushing for MODDED buses to have all these features...I doubt that will happen.
Cracking review Mike. Still on the fence about buying it though. Being an OMSI nut-job, it's not easy playing these other Bus games. Why do you say the TH-cam hates this channel and would like to see it gone? You're a game player/reviewer, not someone that says things bad in a political way that upsets the lefty loonies.
Oh but I am lol......I have many faces :-) Regarding OMSI, have you tried Yorkshire v3.0? DLC it is brilliant, I was working on a FIRST LOOK REVIEW Vid, but I tweak OMSI to run better and now nothing works!!! lol F%^&ing OMSI!!!
Question... can you call dispatch when bad stuff happens? Can you kick passenger's off the bus and can you play as a walkable sim in the supervisor role watching your busses go around with the ability to stop one of them? Or can you test your system by waiting for the bus and passing as an undercover boss mixed as a mystery shopper to see how it works
No for the first few, but YES you can as a walkable sim in the supervisor role watching your busses go around with the ability to stop one of them? And Yes you can test your system by waiting for the bus and passing as an undercover boss mixed as a mystery shopper to see how it works
@@SimUKReviews they've said they are aware of an issue effecting performance on mid to high end systems and are working on a fix, hopefully to be included within the next patch 😀
Hey there I got bus sim 18 & 21 on PS4 I do love this game but there’s to much bugs in 21 like on old map seaside valley there’s no trains People still walk in front of the bus driver’s drive in posts it’s lag’s when go night and morning and its lagging when it’s raining and when you driving a bendy bus and stop at bus stop you see the back end moving I have emailed astragon telling them all this I’m hoping you can see what I’m talking about thank you if you see this
Nice review, but somehow seeing you drive bus with G29 just seems wrong.. I do have T300 and usually sit in iracing with vr, but this game even on hardcore mode seems to be more like relaxing game which you play with a keyboard when you just want to relax and enjoy the moment rather than something which requires a decent rig, but that's at least what I think about it, but will be getting it, glad to know that it was an improvement, especially on management side of things compared to previous games.
@@SimUKReviews But it looks exactly the same. In a previous game there was no ffb on wheels, they felt weird and unrealistic, AI was bad, buses had no physics. How is this one in that area? I'm not talking about the graphics, looks like a game from 2010 but i can live with low quality graphics if the gameplay is good. Don't care about free play, all i want is career. I find free play boring.
I am pushing for FREEPLAY which means all the financial stuff, but none of the campaign missions....so just run the business how you want. SANBOX is 100% free and then campaign. I really find it simulation(esc) not hardcore sim but close enough to feel good.
Actually, no. I spent almost $100 on this plus all of the DLCs on Xbox, and it's nowhere near as good as Bus Simulator 18. In fact, it's a lot worse than its predecessor. I can't get into story mode despite the fact that I put my company name.
@Sim UK NO, it's just that people say if you want the more relaxed driving around, then fernbus is the 1, I can't be bothered with the repairs and stuff like that.
2021 is overly complicated it's predecessor was much better in gameplay you can't or I haven't figured how to increase the vehicles mass it feels too light and over responsive give me BS2018 anyday.....
Not ripping at all buddy? This is a hardcore sim channel, it's what I prefer, but if you like casual that's your ball. Is it because I say kids and casual gamers?? Because if you let your child play that is the setting you would use....not a criticism, a compliment to the game design because it caters for all sorts.
@@SimUKReviews The acceleration is fine till 30 km/h, afterwards it becomes really slow, which got me wondering. Also it feels like the busses can barely go over 50 km/h. Another thing that really annoys me is the transmission. When I accelerate slowly it should change gears quickly to keep the rpm low and save fuel etc. When I push the gas pedal all the way down the transmission should stay longer in the current gear or even downshift to supply the needed power, but it actually just acts like in the first one I described. Sorry for my broken english, it's not my native language
Well first of all I applaud your English, it is excellent. I see what you are saying and I agree, I did mention in my review that it isn't fully simulated (gears being one of the missing elements & its associated audio). TBH it could be more sim, but it is still very much casual with a hint of simulation.
Don't buy it. Don't make the same mistake I did. It seems like 35 bucks was worth it the first place, but after spending a little time playing it, you will realise the horrible mistake you've done, especially when you've hit the 2 hour mark. Do yourself a favor and wait a few months before buying it, it is so full of bugs as of now. Why? Never know when and if Astragon will fix those game-breaking bugs, or are they gonna disband the game like they did with Bus Sim 18
@@SimUKReviews Hardcore with a wheel yep. The wheel is working fine with the game, no problems there, but it's rather bugs that ruin the gameplay experience that bother me.
@Eddie. Me too. OMSI is the benchmark that all other wannabe bus Sims out their try to beat but OMSI will always wear the crown. Steam Stats prove that when looking at the amount of players playing on any one of those Bus driving Sims on any given day where OMSI always comes out with flying colours. BS21 looks like a clone of 18, The Bus looks like a clone of Fernbus with dreadful physics in both. Despite it's 32 BIT architecture and glitches and quirks, it's still a very playable and enjoyable experience. I just cannot say that about any of the more recent Bus Sim/cades out there.
@@SimUKReviews Everything I just saw a clip on FB where the bendy bus I swear cd not even sit on the ground when it went uphill and end up crashing into a curb or something..these idiot developers fail their job I swear!
Much love from one of the devs - probably can speak for the whole team though! Glad you are really enjoying this
HI Michael, thank you I really am! You guys have done a great job!
You did a terrible job tbh. Four patches later and the game still isnt't finished? It crashes constanlty. NPCs just stand in the middle of the road a lot and block buses from getting past, or just walk straight into your bus or straight out in front of it which costs 20 grand each time. Was also a problem in Bus Sim 18, thought you would've fixed that. NPCs fail at taking corners in a double decker way too often, they don't open the doors on the Blue Bird Sigma or the Alexander Dennis Enviro200 single decker.
Sort it out.
11 months ago it was playable, and now it's not. You broke it in several areas.
Looking at the past games of the studio, I kinda knew how sim like the experience was really going to be and was happy with that when I bought it. I do agree though that if a title has the word "simulator" in it, one would likely expect "sim-level" quality. I don't think you should have to look at the past games of the studio to gauge how sim like the product will be, but maybe it is worth doing to double check.
Agreed. I keep pushing them in this direction & they are transitioning....so if I keep at it lol
I like the changes to the route and payday system tho its very confusing and takes getting used to. In its current state, I wouldn't buy it until further updates. What annoys me the most in this game is the cockpit dashboard and the fact I can't play in realistic mode because of the buttons are blocked by the name pop ups. Also the steering doesn't feel as smooth as Bus Sim 18 currently. And the AI cars can be weird sometimes and just not move and keep u waiting but pedestrians crossing the road have been improved a lot and will run or stop so u can avoid hitting them.
I think 18 is better (graphics and cars and stuff)
OK. I did too for about 2 or 3 hours, but then everything just kind of clicked into place.
Yes, one of my main niggles about BS18 was the 'garage' - which was so lacking as to be useless. It was an end of shift parking point and setting off point and that all. I wanted a proper garage and office where timetable and maintenance could be undergone IF you wanted. I wanted the ability to be 'promoted' to an inspector or a manger IF you wanted! IRONICALLY, I am not a 'hardcore' sim fan, just a more casual fan but I STILL feel these features are essential and wanted. I have decided to skip BS21 and wait for the next implementation, where I would like to see mini-buses, taxis and tourist coaches and event coach hire included. Excellent video, thank you.
Very good video, and a great review! I just discovered your channel and I am really enjoying your content!
I'm pretty sure that some of the buses e.g. Grande West, Blue Bird haven't had their audio recorded for the game yet due to lockdown, hence why some buses have inaccurate sounds. One thing that disappoints me a bit, is that buses such as the Scania don't have their unique indicator sounds, which is unrealistic.
I completed both 16 and 18, and what I liked about 16 was that you could do 3-digit line numbers already (which got taken away in 18, for whatever reason). I had hoped that 21 would eventually give the player the opportunity to change the destination boards on the bus (at least front) from one trip to another fluently without having to create two lines facing opposite directions and naming them 3A and 3B respectively. The timetable function is definitely a big improvement, but it still isn't what I had hoped it to be. Why no busses between midnight and 4 AM? Why is there no variable peak time? In Switzerland for example it's more like 6:30 to 8:30 in the morning and 16:00 to 19:00 in the evening rather than 4:00 to 9:00 and 14:00 to 19:00 (both way too long). Also, why only one type of day? Why no weekend day or holiday? I still have low hopes that there will be a major update some day which will enhance the planning aspect.
100% agree with you!
i loved 18 more, the route system was better, now you have take over a bus from a driver, in the 18 version you started at the garage and when your route was completed you returned the bus there, i liked that better, perhaps its possible because i am new to 21 and havent figured it out yet.
Now we just need a Amazon/mail delivery simulator
That's actually a great idea! Sounds fun.
Great review mate, was very helpfull! So far the main negative point for me are the reused sounds on the new buses, with so many of them they berly spend the time to dedicate to each one some love.
Thanks for the comment.
Fk I'm old. I find this more interesting than the latest COD.
🤣
CoD is a dead horse that has been beaten to a pulp.
I was done with CoD when they served the same game for the second time in a form of MW2 in 2009.
I’m 14 and find this more intriguing
omsi has the best physics calculation, try some good optimized maps, u will feel everything is so true to the game called earth online, plus u can write scripts to make all kinds of stuffs(electric,hybrid) come true
even the graphic is old, it still put me into great immersion of i am actually driving a real bus, with all those details, sound, physics
Audio = immersion, so many games fail to focus on this.
I loved OMSI 2 but the crashing and bugs are.....unsustainable.
However, it is the best bus sim to date.
Good review! And it was sweet of you to include the thingy about American busses
Thank you! 😃
You made an excellent point, so I re-recorded the review to make sure I could :-)
@@SimUKReviews thank you!
@@SimUKReviews I praised your review on the steam post as well. And don't worry about the 10 dislikes. That's not that many, and after all you can't make anyone happy
Many thank you's
1 Hour to unlock and what a great video to see before I click purchase. Thanks mate.
Cheers doc.
Very well balanced review! Oh very well I shall part with my cash! Hoping we'll do a cheeky bit of multiplayer soon? :P
Hey hey hey Joe, lets do that!
of course it's better than 18
have everything with all content of 18
but with the 21 mechanics
even with the bugs , game still looks and plays great
for any bus enthusiast player it's a most buy
Some are saying that the bus of bs18 are better the 21 one, they just the same and there is more bus on the 21 one but I respect the opinion of other, for me bs21 is better
I’d say I’d get it
But it isn’t very high on my list because other games do exist and are better games
Here’s my list
1: The Bus
This game doesn’t compare
The Bus holds better road detail because the roads in this BS21 are more arcade like and doesn’t really carry the same immersion and realistic driving
Let’s not forget the buses carry full realistic weight and honestly feels a lot more realistic in terms of AI because there are larger roads
2: Omsi 2 Although the graphics are tacky sometimes The buses are very realistic and the AI is less realistic but the more maps routes buses and you can call it the biggest open world game
3: Munich Bus Simulator
This game feels like the better version of BS21 if earlier suggestions I’ve made were added in and I hope to see this on Xbox
4: Bus Simulator 18
The map is better in my opinion
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 there is seaside valley on bs21 but its ur opinion
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 my list is:
Omsi 2
I think its the more realistic bus game (not with graphic)alot of bus, good dlc and mod
Bs21 and bs18
Realistic graphic, alot of bus, good dlc, multiplayer
The bus
The best bus game with graphic
Big map
I just overall enjoyed Bus Sim 18 more, still has better UI that I honestly don't know why they changed in 21.
I can forgive the lack of American buses on an American map, I hope we can at least change the currency to USD instead of Euros,
Its a fictional currency
Lack of Engines sound and transmission authenticity is what makes me upset the most. Grande West supposed to have Cummins/ZF transmission setup all the bus sounds the same. Bendy buses can’t even reach 30mph fast. In my state NJ Transit had an 2004 Neoplan that had CAT/ZF transmission 6 speed bendy bus that hit 70mph. These buses in this game can’t reach highway speeds fast enough. It’s like they locked the acceleration and force feed back bug is locked at 10,000%. I’m at level 117 now.
Good news, the transmission is getting an update as are the physics
@@SimUKReviews for real man don’t make me cry. Although I’m not in expert in European buses. I wish they more US brands, and do you know when the transmission update coming?
@@urbancombat1000 Unfortunately I don't have an exact date...Next 2-3 patches I would guess.
@@SimUKReviews thank you man
i like this reviewer...
its feels quite honest.. and no hype!
Cheers!
Simple answer is NO. Its Not better than 18, not even close. Graphics are bad, dull, gameplay is Over complicated now, with its crazy menus etc. Controls more weird and difficult. Glitches like sitting down, you can't get back up. Roads are not clearly visible, bus stops not clear or the map!! Definately NOT worth the extortion price they charge for the game! Bus 18 was easy to control, roads, graphics were clear, visible and really nice map. Was a joy to drive in 18. No silly time warp or confusing menus. All they had too do, was leave the game as it was in 18 "perfect".. And just add new maps, areas and missions. Simple really. Just leave the mechanics, controls, graphics, way they were.
U know that Seaside valley is on bs21... But I respect your opinion
What would you recommend buying The Bus or Bus sim 21 ? I’m playing on PC and have a sim rig so after the best experience sim wise I play a lot of ATS/ETS 2 but I have no previous experience with Bus games
21 easy. I stopped playing 18 because of the controller support issues, they might be fix? but 21 def allows multi controllers to work well.
Bus simulator 21 is s step in the right direction as im a hardcore sim gamer
Agreed.
It kills me that this game is so amazing yet the sensitivity in acceleration and braking is disgusting. In 18 I felt the real amount of pressure when pressing on the brakes and gas when driving. In 21, it feels like I'm playing on a computer. All pressure equals an immediate stop and while accelerating mo matter how slight I press it, it keeps accelerating. This is highly annoying and don't know if I'm doing something wrong or the game is bugged with performance
Are you playing on hard-core?
@@SimUKReviews I tried all difficulties. It's not the same as 18. It's way more arcade like on pad
Oh on a pad, ill be honest I haven't tried pad yet.
@@SimUKReviews lemme know how you feel from pad bro. Maybe you have more insight than me
Ive got the same problem, hopefully the fix it
As it’s on steam sale right now, i wanted a review. Thank you! Now purchasing the game
Awesome.
may i ask which on of your pcs was running this game as the frame rate fluxuated quite alot
just to know how demanding this is as my pc is decent at best
this was the i7 4700 on a GTX 1660ti (3xscreens) : Worth noting this was pre-release footage (performance is better now)
The busses feel like they're riding flat all the time, there's no suspension feel whatsoever. I took a corner going 40mph and the bus stayed flat like a sports car and went right around it, very weird indeed. I want to feel the suspension depress and bus to feel like it's dipping and bumping all over the road, Truck Simulator was able to add this effect with sliders. I don't see why they couldn't fix this.
im looking to buy this game! I am also thankful for the very honest yet detailed review...for me its not worth the 30 usd they are asking i will prlly wait for a sale tysm again!! sub'd and lov'd ♥
Thank you and welcome.
Nice review as always. I say the same thing on my channel to leave a comment as it helps the algorithm, as I feel like TH-cam hates my channel as well lol.
LOL 😆 I still have some legal dispute ongoing with YT...so they really hate me.
@@SimUKReviews Oh lol, I thought you meant because of algorithm reasons.
Well that too 🤣
I have like 3× double decker and also it has a reality to it.But it's like crashing somewhere like in the roundabout I am playing it right now.I made it pink with something on oakwood.
Isn't "simulation and casual gamers" an oxymoron? Seems really weird to me that the devs have chosen this route to go down.
TBH they started out with BS16 as complete Casual game.
I am looking at getting the extended map for 18
Great review from a first time buyer 👍
After watching this I’m more than confident in buying this game tomorrow 👌
Awesome, just one thing to point out...They didn't add a freeplay mode as I asked for, just a everything is unlocked sandbox.
On PS4?
cheers guys, given me a good idea of what I might be buying into
Release day bugs have caused a lot of issues.
Are there any manual buses? And can you use the proper manual gearbox and clutch
no
Great video. Thank you.
And does bus simulator 18 support manual and clutch for g29, honestly don’t know which one is better or to get
Daniel I honestly cannot remember, I put BS18 away a long time ago, for me BS21 is way better (there are some release day bugs though)
what steering wheel do you use?
g29
Just came out on PS4. Nowhere near as good as pc but still fun imo!
Is it worth buying after bus sim 18?
Or generally?
what headset do you use for BusSim21 that does the head turn in the games as you turn your own head?
Oh well, looks like I will be sticking with OMSI2 for some time to come, you didn't let us hear the sounds, but looking at the video, it looks so gamey, with the bus just floating along, no reaction to bumps at all, maybe the sounds would have helped a bit, but no, it looks like yet again, it is a game with no atmosphere at all.
Yeah the audio is a lot better, but needs more; not quite OMSI standard.
Omsi 2 is still better than BS21
So witch one should I get bus sim 21 or Jurassic world Evolution 2?
do you prefer buses or dinos?
@@SimUKReviews no idea pick
@@darksalt4570 jwe for action and bs21 for relaxing drive
Bit late to the party but how is the game now in terms of bugs etc? Thinking of buying for ps5 but I’m on the fence and can’t find any new videos on it… maybe that’s a bad sign lol.
Check out my good pal Joe Dobson.
@@SimUKReviews Thanks for the reply, I purchased the game and loving it so far just needs a ps5 upgrade 🙏
Hi, I’ve never played bus sim.. this is on sale until tonight and I’ve been looking at it for a while. Is it worth the €39.99?
Potentially yes, seems a little pricey for a sale price though?
You're so hardcore, that you use own torch rather than low beams at night ?!
I use matches .....
Hi buddy have you done this story mission main quest bus 21 drive a route that peaks at noon during noon in 10 min can not understand what to do
Not sure tbh. I might restart my lp on a casual live series.
How does this compare to ATS or ETS2? im looking for a bus sim that can be played with mouse and keyborad but it dosent feel too arcade and can run on a lower end asus tuf laptop
I'm not sure it will 100% tick those boxes, but it might. Chilled out, decent enough gameplay but lacks realism imho.
@@SimUKReviews Thanks for the reply! So speaking of specs do you think a lower end laptop can handle it okay? I have a Ryzen 5 3550 with a Radeon RX 560X. It can handle a lot of sim games at 20-30fps okay so dunno if it will be okay with this one or should i get one of the older games.
Thank you for the amazing review and I have 1 question. Does Bus Sim 21 have more bugs than Bus Sim 18?
Thanks....in my pre release version, maybe. Although the type of bugs I suspect will be fixable and hopefully not part of release :-)
I have loads of gameplay footage on the channel which is unedited, so you can see for yourself too.
06:10 'fortunately that really is the only issue I wanted to discuss'
You mean the lack of realism? Yeh, at least it's _only_ that...
lol indeed.
Well I am pushing V hard for a freeplay mode & they cannot cater for refuelling etc because their license does not allow it, so I am pushing for MODDED buses to have all these features...I doubt that will happen.
Cracking review Mike. Still on the fence about buying it though. Being an OMSI nut-job, it's not easy playing these other Bus games. Why do you say the TH-cam hates this channel and would like to see it gone? You're a game player/reviewer, not someone that says things bad in a political way that upsets the lefty loonies.
Oh but I am lol......I have many faces :-)
Regarding OMSI, have you tried Yorkshire v3.0? DLC it is brilliant, I was working on a FIRST LOOK REVIEW Vid, but I tweak OMSI to run better and now nothing works!!! lol
F%^&ing OMSI!!!
@@SimUKReviews
Yes I have got Yorkshire 3.0, Mike. Check out my recent video on one of the routes I did it if you get time.
@@Stringbean421 Wilco mate, add a link here so anyone reading this can find it too :-)
Would they have a DLC option for UK Map
Maybe one day, but they have many issues to address ATM.
Question... can you call dispatch when bad stuff happens? Can you kick passenger's off the bus and can you play as a walkable sim in the supervisor role watching your busses go around with the ability to stop one of them? Or can you test your system by waiting for the bus and passing as an undercover boss mixed as a mystery shopper to see how it works
No for the first few, but YES you can as a walkable sim in the supervisor role watching your busses go around with the ability to stop one of them?
And Yes you can test your system by waiting for the bus and passing as an undercover boss mixed as a mystery shopper to see how it works
@@SimUKReviews how do you do this??
Thanks for the review
I want buy bus simulator but idk what is better 18 or 21, can u help me please thx😅
For me it is 21, but mostly because of the better controller support. I cannot decide for you.
18, its 100% way better, easy controls, nicer graphics, better menus.
@@misteropinion2869 I think bs21 on Seaside valley have not good graphic but bs18 have more better graphic
Is the frame rate this terrible in general or are you just playing on an old beaten PS4...?
Compared to Fernbus it is night and day regards to Simulation driving.
Agreed, but much more could be done.
Can anyone help me I’m legit getting really low FPS on a good rig I have Ryzen 3rd gen, 16GB RAM and an RTX card but get 20fps :(
Might be part of the release day bugs issue...patch incoming?
@@SimUKReviews they've said they are aware of an issue effecting performance on mid to high end systems and are working on a fix, hopefully to be included within the next patch 😀
Hey there I got bus sim 18 & 21 on PS4 I do love this game but there’s to much bugs in 21 like on old map seaside valley there’s no trains People still walk in front of the bus driver’s drive in posts it’s lag’s when go night and morning and its lagging when it’s raining and when you driving a bendy bus and stop at bus stop you see the back end moving I have emailed astragon telling them all this I’m hoping you can see what I’m talking about thank you if you see this
Yeah some people are having a hard time enjoying 21, almost like they tried to make it look too real.
@@SimUKReviews hopefully astragon will fix it because it is a good game
Astragon have made loads of nearly excellent games....
can you get A coffee from the coffee machine as stated by Astragon
I looked at the vending machine, which didn't work lol
my g29 steering wheel is very heavy and if I give a lot of gas or drive on a threshold it vibrates all the way can someone help me?
Are you on hardcore mode?
@@SimUKReviews Normal iguess
drive purist.
On Hardcore it is setup sweet, so maybe switch between the two and compare settings?
I like busses go vroom!
Vroom, rattle, rattle, bang
Are there any good right hand drive sims?
Erm......Dirt Rally 2.0 or Project Cars maybe assetto
Hope for track mark when pass by water
Good idea.
Does this game have Manual Transmission?
No, semi auto is the only option really.
Super advanced simulation controls should be added DLC
Dude the only way tp get the perfect bus sim is asking rockstar games to make 1.
Can i use head tracking on the Xbox one x
Not that I am aware of.
Does it supports manual transmission?
nope, auto only.
Nice review, but somehow seeing you drive bus with G29 just seems wrong.. I do have T300 and usually sit in iracing with vr, but this game even on hardcore mode seems to be more like relaxing game which you play with a keyboard when you just want to relax and enjoy the moment rather than something which requires a decent rig, but that's at least what I think about it, but will be getting it, glad to know that it was an improvement, especially on management side of things compared to previous games.
oh! an excellent review for my choice. 21? or 18? 이제 결정했습니다. 21을 사는 것으로. - from South Korea of BTS ^0^
What did you pick?
So just a reskin as i understand?
No. Not really. Quite a lot better, especially for controller support.
If they add FREEPLAY it will be vastly better.
@@SimUKReviews But it looks exactly the same. In a previous game there was no ffb on wheels, they felt weird and unrealistic, AI was bad, buses had no physics. How is this one in that area? I'm not talking about the graphics, looks like a game from 2010 but i can live with low quality graphics if the gameplay is good.
Don't care about free play, all i want is career. I find free play boring.
I am pushing for FREEPLAY which means all the financial stuff, but none of the campaign missions....so just run the business how you want.
SANBOX is 100% free
and then campaign.
I really find it simulation(esc) not hardcore sim but close enough to feel good.
Is the game worth it ??
If you enjoy buses in a semi realistic fashion.
I started on 18 too
Actually, no. I spent almost $100 on this plus all of the DLCs on Xbox, and it's nowhere near as good as Bus Simulator 18. In fact, it's a lot worse than its predecessor. I can't get into story mode despite the fact that I put my company name.
i hate the new pay system it should be end of the trip not during level up
Yeah I'm not a fan.
I thought sandbox would be more realistic....now I am worried it is going to have zero financial implications at all :-(
@@SimUKReviews you can fix the payday in the setting:)
Think I'm going to for fernbus
Have you tried the bus
@Sim UK NO, it's just that people say if you want the more relaxed driving around, then fernbus is the 1, I can't be bothered with the repairs and stuff like that.
Can I get link to download it please
The bus handling feels cartoonish. The artic don't even turn correctly like an artic.
Are you playing on hard-core?
Or perhaps you are not using a wheel?
Either way, the good news is each bus is getting individual physics adjustments.
You can "complete" any of these games 🤔
2021 is overly complicated it's predecessor was much better in gameplay you can't or I haven't figured how to increase the vehicles mass it feels too light and over responsive give me BS2018 anyday.....
Make sure you are playing on MAX difficulty.
Guess sim 21 for unreal engine
Okay review but hate that you rip into casual sim gamers. Not everyone wants to be hardcore into this shit
Not ripping at all buddy?
This is a hardcore sim channel, it's what I prefer, but if you like casual that's your ball.
Is it because I say kids and casual gamers??
Because if you let your child play that is the setting you would use....not a criticism, a compliment to the game design because it caters for all sorts.
Since you asked: are you a shill by any chance? 🤔🤭
Obviously you're new here, least Shill on YT
Dont buy bus simulator 18 it is almost no starter buses if u want some buses u need to buy them for real money
"The accelerating feels realistic" bro, the accelerate so slow 😭
I'm a bus driver in real life, buses pull of slow not very slow but they take forever to climb up in speed
@@beautifulvoidgames Hey, guess what, me too
So....that would be realistic then. Never seen a bus wheelspin + the smaller buses accelerate faster, so even more realistic....no?
@@SimUKReviews The acceleration is fine till 30 km/h, afterwards it becomes really slow, which got me wondering. Also it feels like the busses can barely go over 50 km/h.
Another thing that really annoys me is the transmission. When I accelerate slowly it should change gears quickly to keep the rpm low and save fuel etc.
When I push the gas pedal all the way down the transmission should stay longer in the current gear or even downshift to supply the needed power, but it actually just acts like in the first one I described.
Sorry for my broken english, it's not my native language
Well first of all I applaud your English, it is excellent.
I see what you are saying and I agree, I did mention in my review that it isn't fully simulated (gears being one of the missing elements & its associated audio). TBH it could be more sim, but it is still very much casual with a hint of simulation.
Don't buy it.
Don't make the same mistake I did.
It seems like 35 bucks was worth it the first place, but after spending a little time playing it, you will realise the horrible mistake you've done, especially when you've hit the 2 hour mark.
Do yourself a favor and wait a few months before buying it, it is so full of bugs as of now.
Why? Never know when and if Astragon will fix those game-breaking bugs, or are they gonna disband the game like they did with Bus Sim 18
Zack, are you on console?
@@SimUKReviews No, PC
Quick reply! Are you playing on HARCORE with a wheel?
If so what issue do you have? Only asking out of curiosity, I might be able to help too?
@@SimUKReviews Hardcore with a wheel yep. The wheel is working fine with the game, no problems there, but it's rather bugs that ruin the gameplay experience that bother me.
I see & understand. Having spoken with a dev recently, many updates & improvements are coming soon.
tutorial is garbage and broken. I wouldn't recommend this. It's too expensive as well.
Seems they broke a lot of stuff in the release patch.
Don't give me a heart!
Roger that...
❤ can't help it, my way of saying thanks for your message.
I’m an omsi fan
Dear Lord that Game has more problems than Israel and Palestine.
@Eddie.
Me too. OMSI is the benchmark that all other wannabe bus Sims out their try to beat but OMSI will always wear the crown. Steam Stats prove that when looking at the amount of players playing on any one of those Bus driving Sims on any given day where OMSI always comes out with flying colours. BS21 looks like a clone of 18, The Bus looks like a clone of Fernbus with dreadful physics in both. Despite it's 32 BIT architecture and glitches and quirks, it's still a very playable and enjoyable experience. I just cannot say that about any of the more recent Bus Sim/cades out there.
@@Stringbean421 True. OMSI has the best sounds, physics and customization
Ouch! 😆 but also true.
The Bus is the closest to OMSI, but a work I progress still IMHO.
So this means this game is Garbage and not worth getting it at all!!!
That's a shame.
@@SimUKReviews so sad they can never make a good game sadly
What is lacking would you say?
@@SimUKReviews Everything I just saw a clip on FB where the bendy bus I swear cd not even sit on the ground when it went uphill and end up crashing into a curb or something..these idiot developers fail their job I swear!
@@CrazyGamer-nt7nf I bought the game today and played it for 5 hours. Bro it's gooooood