It’s funny how many people trash these turntables and haven’t even used them. Coming from multiple Technics using them since 1988 these pioneers are up to par or actually better as far as torque and wow and flutter. These are not the same as all the other super OEM because the tone arm and platter are recessed like the 1200.. So the feel between these and 1200s is identical, except u notice the platter starts up in half the time as a 1200. These are also better than the Chinese made 1200 MK7 for $300 less. Pioneer did a nice job of developing this and wanted to keep the price reasonable so it’s manufactured by Hanpin. This would easily be over a $1000 table if it were made in Japan or USA. No one is saying throw away your old 1200s for these. But if you are in the market to buy a turntable this is a way better option than buying a questionably used 1200 in my opinion that has more torque, replaceable cables and a warranty. Put one of these head to head with a new 1200 MK7 and you will scratch your head on why the Chinese MK7 is $300 more.
I bought them and love them. I had tech 1200s for 15 years before, and I don’t understand all the hate towards the plx1000. But I agree, mostly people who never touched either got to voice their opinion.
Thank you very much. After months of research. Been pulling my hair out for months over the Technics mk 7 and Pioneer plx 1000. I am now going to purchase the Pioneer.
I see this was posted a while back, but I have to say this...If you already own a pair of technics 1200 or 1210 no matter the model keep them you are in good hands. But if you are looking to get a new pair of turntables there are other options out there to consider because if you go to ebay technics (new) prices are from $1,000.00 up to $3,000.00 some new and others old and some crazy sellers have them for even up to $5,000.00 (that's crazy) go to ebay and see it for yourselves.. Guitar Center have the new release of Technics Grand Class SL 1210 GR for 1,699.00 and the SL-1200G sold for $4,000. If you have that kind of money go for it. Remember this units used to sell for around $500.00 or $600 back in the days. However because they discontinued now people wants to charge big time for them. I owned a pair of Technics SL1210 MK5 but if I didn't had them I would not pay over $1,000 for a turntable. At the end of the day go for what works best for you and your budget. The Pioneer PLX-1000 is a Great turntable selling for $699.00, so far there is nothing you can't do on the Pioneer PLX-1000 that you already do on the technics. Technics have already proven the test of time. Let's see if the PLX-1000 can do the same. Only time will tell. Peace my fellow Dj's.
I finally decided to buy a set. My main reason was price. I picked two up for $800. During all my research all I ran into was DJs trashing it and praising reloop or technics and let’s face it, they’re ancient and you never know where they’ve been. This is all over the Facebook DJ pages, TH-cam etc. it’s like everyone has read this and copied the gimmick and repeats it, I guarantee you 95% of negative comments have not even owned them. One place that I found some good info was the vinyl pages, the audiophile community. They speak well on this and that was enough for me. I owned 1200s and I can safely say that the plx 1000 is just like one except it’s a lot newer which could be a good thing.
Thank you sir for your review, it's the one I was looking for. I used to own a pair of technic 1200's but got rid of them years ago as they were old and had issues and I got tired of having them repaired all the time. I am now looking to get a replacement and stumbled upon the plx-1000's and wondered how they compared to the 1200's and see from your review that it would be a great investment. Thanks again and respect!
I watched a tear down video floating around, things like the pitch fader and whatever else are soldered directly to the PCB so you will only be able to swap that a couple of times before permanent damage amongst other things and it has a bad feedback issue. For what they are worth they needed to do better.
where did you get the idea that soldering/desoldering causes permanent damage? just give it to somebody who knows how to solder and he won't do any damage to pcb.
Thank you for your feedback. Your opinion will not bring them back into production. As we move into the future we must grow with new technology. Nothing is forever.
The difference is inside and insulation. Pioneer shines in it simplicity and insulation where needed. Lot better sound. Technics lot of the electrics are directly under the platter with minimal insulation in close proximity and the heavy rubber mat inside only does as weight. Also the Pioneer speed is controlled by optical sensor. When you have the two side by side teardown the Pioneer is leaps ahead. Technics is a nightmare cheap comparable to Audio Technica. Pioneer is lot more sensitive with better pickup. Technics this is not possible because lack of insulation. This makes the Pioneer more of an audiophile table also of it sensitivity. There is competition here. Technics was good but Pioneer is a modern take of the classic and lot better.
Have you ever tried with Reloop rp7000..? I did after my old sl1210 they are pretty much there,mixing better on these be honest the pitch is reacting faster than on my old technics it require less time to get into mix..scratches are cool too,no problems with microphone effects and noise at gigs,Pioneer have some isolation issues..
Pioneer PLX-1000 has The pitch on the Board, I would like to Know what do you do when the pitch fail, on Technics is very Easy change the pitch, the wire audio, and works like a Porche, I love Technics =)
No FeedBack at all. I Have attempted to replicate this issue by pointing monitors directly at the turntables as seen in other videos. I HAD NO PROBLEMS, in my testing. Peace
I've had that problem with many turntables. The trick to reducing feed back is to set the turntable on a heavy and solid surface. For example, a large granite or marble chopping board (sold in some kitchen stores) works great.
Love this pioneer 1000 I bought one great for turntablist scratch mix n to listen to music too is not the wheel of steal but is a great turntable at least better than the vestax pdx 2000 mk 2 I love them too but they made cheap just that motor n that straight little arm for turntablist scratch mix you just got to get use to it but is way better than the vestax only cus they made them cheap but they good too for battle is heavy more than the technics 1200 classic man is a great turntable for the price come on a beautiful finish anyways they made everything now n day out of plastic y'all know that especially the turntable n made out of woods too is dope fresh turntable for everything that it I just wondering if they will last like the wheel of steel technics 1200 mk 2 oh mk 5 but this pioneer 1000 is a great turntable I tried it for mixing house music n hip hop rap n is great n is good for battle style turntable n it feel like the 1200 mk 2 same feeling when mixing n scratching mix 😁👍😎
No one is saying give up your 1200's. The reality is Panasonic isn't making 1200's anymore, and the patent is expired. My guess is they knew there would be improvements made and they would lose the market. The PLX-1000 is a good starting point for Pioneer. I am curious about the feedback loop others seem to be having in high volume situations, but I'm also skeptical of their claims.
I think the legendary Technics gets an undeserved easy pass over the Pioneer. The Pioneer is weightier, which makes its speed more reliable which makes its pace, rhythm and timing better. Also that apparently his an impact on each note being in tune, if I believe what musicians say. It also gets a thumbs up from me for not having an inbuilt phono amplifier, as I'm told produces electronic noise that interferes with other essential parts of the rest of the turntable, to the overall detriment.
I'm 100 % sure that you are not able to hear the difference between technics original cable and upgraded gold plated cable in any of these turntables. It is just look. In terms of sound quality, feedback and arm pioneer is not even close to old technics. The question is, do you really need superior quality of sound for scratching ?
kopero86 I definitely appreciate the feedback to answer your question a great turntable is absolutely necessary in terms of quality in regards to scratching from everything down to the way the tonearm tracks to the type of Rumble that may produce based on the way the turntable is constructed and how much vibration that turntable might absorb additionally in terms of quality of build quality specifically the Pioneer is equal to or greater than that of an old technique and as I said in the video when it comes to features the Technic turntable has become Antiquated technology. I hope I answered your question thanks again
I've seen loose tone arms on other turntables including some 1200s. That can come with lots of DJ use or someone not doing their job in QC if the unit is brand new.
Well tighten up the loose tonearms on my pair. They are just like 1200s with more torque. I put my 1200s in closet and aint looked back. Excellent review my friend.
don1mega i have a pair of gold edition tech's however i prefer the pioneer ultra pitch for the WIN. imo turntables without ultra pitch are not as useful.
no one in their right mind would part with the gold Tech. my Brother Magic Mike has his in his studio, he has a set of M3D's in the cases in the garage and a set he takes out on tour....Techs are tanks, no one is denying that, but there are other options that perform just as well....although my PLX did not.
Man these are great , they feel just like my tech ' s with some subtle improvements, couldn't be happier. I posted a beat juggling video last night too with these. I Wil do a scratch video, very soon.. Peace g.
The Technics 1200 put out better sound it respond more better the Pioneer okay but technique been around too long I don't care what they come up with always going to be techniques for me
PLX1000 is made by Hanpin just like Reloop, Stanton, Audio Technica and many more. It's from the same assembly line. Plus, the plx has a huge feedback problem. I'd rather buy a used technics or the Reloop RP 7000 mk2 as it seems the best bang for the buck with the features it offers (in eg. Stanton st150 m2 is the same shit in different casing but they didnt put the torque and brake controls on it probably because they're cheap bastards). Either way, Pioneer is just overpriced chinese crap.
@@felipechan9654 envy and racist? Tell me what is envy and racist on my post. You dont not know what you are talking about. Have any Hanpin turnrables in hand? No.. you are normal hater, so calm down please
It’s funny how many people trash these turntables and haven’t even used them. Coming from multiple Technics using them since 1988 these pioneers are up to par or actually better as far as torque and wow and flutter. These are not the same as all the other super OEM because the tone arm and platter are recessed like the 1200.. So the feel between these and 1200s is identical, except u notice the platter starts up in half the time as a 1200. These are also better than the Chinese made 1200 MK7 for $300 less. Pioneer did a nice job of developing this and wanted to keep the price reasonable so it’s manufactured by Hanpin. This would easily be over a $1000 table if it were made in Japan or USA. No one is saying throw away your old 1200s for these. But if you are in the market to buy a turntable this is a way better option than buying a questionably used 1200 in my opinion that has more torque, replaceable cables and a warranty. Put one of these head to head with a new 1200 MK7 and you will scratch your head on why the Chinese MK7 is $300 more.
I bought them and love them. I had tech 1200s for 15 years before, and I don’t understand all the hate towards the plx1000. But I agree, mostly people who never touched either got to voice their opinion.
Thank you very much.
After months of research.
Been pulling my hair out for months over the Technics mk 7 and Pioneer plx 1000.
I am now going to purchase the Pioneer.
I see this was posted a while back, but I have to say this...If you already own a pair of technics 1200 or 1210 no matter the model keep them you are in good hands. But if you are looking to get a new pair of turntables there are other options out there to consider because if you go to ebay technics (new) prices are from $1,000.00 up to $3,000.00 some new and others old and some crazy sellers have them for even up to $5,000.00 (that's crazy) go to ebay and see it for yourselves.. Guitar Center have the new release of Technics Grand Class SL 1210 GR for 1,699.00 and the SL-1200G sold for $4,000. If you have that kind of money go for it. Remember this units used to sell for around $500.00 or $600 back in the days. However because they discontinued now people wants to charge big time for them. I owned a pair of Technics SL1210 MK5 but if I didn't had them I would not pay over $1,000 for a turntable. At the end of the day go for what works best for you and your budget. The Pioneer PLX-1000 is a Great turntable selling for $699.00, so far there is nothing you can't do on the Pioneer PLX-1000 that you already do on the technics. Technics have already proven the test of time. Let's see if the PLX-1000 can do the same. Only time will tell. Peace my fellow Dj's.
Technics SL-1200 is a series of turntables manufactured from October 1972 until 2010 Forever
cuz they had nothing better back then now they do
Yo… I’m in the market for a table and I just randomly clicked this one and it’s my big bro!
I finally decided to buy a set. My main reason was price. I picked two up for $800. During all my research all I ran into was DJs trashing it and praising reloop or technics and let’s face it, they’re ancient and you never know where they’ve been. This is all over the Facebook DJ pages, TH-cam etc. it’s like everyone has read this and copied the gimmick and repeats it, I guarantee you 95% of negative comments have not even owned them. One place that I found some good info was the vinyl pages, the audiophile community. They speak well on this and that was enough for me. I owned 1200s and I can safely say that the plx 1000 is just like one except it’s a lot newer which could be a good thing.
Technics is looking into making a new DJ turntable again! Rumored price is going to be $1500 but that is if the SL-1200G/GAE sells well.
Thank you sir for your review, it's the one I was looking for. I used to own a pair of technic 1200's but got rid of them years ago as they were old and had issues and I got tired of having them repaired all the time. I am now looking to get a replacement and stumbled upon the plx-1000's and wondered how they compared to the 1200's and see from your review that it would be a great investment. Thanks again and respect!
I watched a tear down video floating around, things like the pitch fader and whatever else are soldered directly to the PCB so you will only be able to swap that a couple of times before permanent damage amongst other things and it has a bad feedback issue. For what they are worth they needed to do better.
Mmm this is a shame....
where did you get the idea that soldering/desoldering causes permanent damage? just give it to somebody who knows how to solder and he won't do any damage to pcb.
Just picked up a pair …looking forward to rockin out!🎉
Yo it’s incredible people still catch this video hahah hope you will big g !
I own a pair of these and they are worth every penny the motor is a beast.
Man, the technics 1210, are always turntable best the rest are imitations.
Thank you for your feedback. Your opinion will not bring them back into production. As we move into the future we must grow with new technology. Nothing is forever.
+dj prominent Ughhhhhhhh, They are back in production. www.technics.com/us/
+dj prominent - As I had told the TECHNICS are the best turntables and there are back will TECHNICS_2016 production.
They ARE back. And the "cheap" model is $2,000 USD. Are they worth $1,300 more than these Pioneers? I seriously doubt it.
They ARE back. And the "cheap" model is $2,000 USD. Are they worth $1,300 more than these Pioneers? I seriously doubt it.
The difference is inside and insulation. Pioneer shines in it simplicity and insulation where needed. Lot better sound. Technics lot of the electrics are directly under the platter with minimal insulation in close proximity and the heavy rubber mat inside only does as weight. Also the Pioneer speed is controlled by optical sensor. When you have the two side by side teardown the Pioneer is leaps ahead. Technics is a nightmare cheap comparable to Audio Technica. Pioneer is lot more sensitive with better pickup. Technics this is not possible because lack of insulation. This makes the Pioneer more of an audiophile table also of it sensitivity. There is competition here. Technics was good but Pioneer is a modern take of the classic and lot better.
Have you ever tried with Reloop rp7000..? I did after my old sl1210 they are pretty much there,mixing better on these be honest the pitch is reacting faster than on my old technics it require less time to get into mix..scratches are cool too,no problems with microphone effects and noise at gigs,Pioneer have some isolation issues..
right on
Pioneer PLX-1000 has The pitch on the Board, I would like to Know what do you do when the pitch fail, on Technics is very Easy change the pitch, the wire audio, and works like a Porche, I love Technics =)
Same as you do with technics unsolder the pitch fader from the pcb, solder on new pitch fader.
jamie DJ tje fader mechanism is mechanical and can fail.
What size counter weight is on there
I heard they had serious feedback when playing regular vinyl.
No FeedBack at all. I Have attempted to replicate this issue by pointing monitors directly at the turntables as seen in other videos. I HAD NO PROBLEMS, in my testing. Peace
Oscar Northington me 2, I played with them in a big ass venue and didnt have a problem with the feedback
I played with my regular vinyl seriously they didn´t feedback
+def creator no feedback on mine
I've had that problem with many turntables. The trick to reducing feed back is to set the turntable on a heavy and solid surface. For example, a large granite or marble chopping board (sold in some kitchen stores) works great.
i sold my plx because they make regular vinyl sound very bad with the additional noise the plastic platter vibrates
Love this pioneer 1000 I bought one great for turntablist scratch mix n to listen to music too is not the wheel of steal but is a great turntable at least better than the vestax pdx 2000 mk 2 I love them too but they made cheap just that motor n that straight little arm for turntablist scratch mix you just got to get use to it but is way better than the vestax only cus they made them cheap but they good too for battle is heavy more than the technics 1200 classic man is a great turntable for the price come on a beautiful finish anyways they made everything now n day out of plastic y'all know that especially the turntable n made out of woods too is dope fresh turntable for everything that it I just wondering if they will last like the wheel of steel technics 1200 mk 2 oh mk 5 but this pioneer 1000 is a great turntable I tried it for mixing house music n hip hop rap n is great n is good for battle style turntable n it feel like the 1200 mk 2 same feeling when mixing n scratching mix 😁👍😎
So just curious this is an old video. How might the plx be holding up after all this time? Thanks for your help.
Fantastic
No one is saying give up your 1200's. The reality is Panasonic isn't making 1200's anymore, and the patent is expired. My guess is they knew there would be improvements made and they would lose the market. The PLX-1000 is a good starting point for Pioneer.
I am curious about the feedback loop others seem to be having in high volume situations, but I'm also skeptical of their claims.
Exactly
Dont the peioneers have digital pitch sliders?
is it a good turntable for just playing some vinyl on for at home?
+real shady yeah
Can you recommend a high quality cartridge to use with these,? Thanks
Late reply sure uve found one. Ortofon club mk2 are the king of the jungle.
Thanks for this review man. Im looking to buy a set of these. Did these hold up?
Sauvv Kicks absolutely !!! Still super solid
@@djprominent pitch stability vs my mk2s and mk5s for extended style of minimal tek mixes? I really like they are tard heavier vs techies
Pioneer is just as good
as Technics.
no theyre better in everyway cept longevity cuz they havent been out that long
Said no one ever
I think the legendary Technics gets an undeserved easy pass over the Pioneer. The Pioneer is weightier, which makes its speed more reliable which makes its pace, rhythm and timing better. Also that apparently his an impact on each note being in tune, if I believe what musicians say. It also gets a thumbs up from me for not having an inbuilt phono amplifier, as I'm told produces electronic noise that interferes with other essential parts of the rest of the turntable, to the overall detriment.
I'm 100 % sure that you are not able to hear the difference between technics original cable and upgraded gold plated cable in any of these turntables. It is just look. In terms of sound quality, feedback and arm pioneer is not even close to old technics. The question is, do you really need superior quality of sound for scratching ?
kopero86 I definitely appreciate the feedback to answer your question a great turntable is absolutely necessary in terms of quality in regards to scratching from everything down to the way the tonearm tracks to the type of Rumble that may produce based on the way the turntable is constructed and how much vibration that turntable might absorb additionally in terms of quality of build quality specifically the Pioneer is equal to or greater than that of an old technique and as I said in the video when it comes to features the Technic turntable has become Antiquated technology. I hope I answered your question thanks again
Have u had any problems with the tone arm being loose? I just got a pair and had some play in them.
so far no problems at all, i would say i use them pretty rough as far as turntablism.
I've seen loose tone arms on other turntables including some 1200s. That can come with lots of DJ use or someone not doing their job in QC if the unit is brand new.
Are they built in Japan?
Well tighten up the loose tonearms on my pair. They are just like 1200s with more torque. I put my 1200s in closet and aint looked back. Excellent review my friend.
much appreciated.
excellent review
What cartridge should i use with the PLX-1000?
thanks for the feedback, i use shure m44-7 technic shell
ortonfon 2m black cartridge
te drogas mucho ?
Have you had any problems with volume feedback on them?
+Mechacelzi i havent
no issues
I will get them then
Technics For The Win!!!!!!!!! I bet you haven't gotten rid of your technics! Let us Know.
don1mega i have a pair of gold edition tech's however i prefer the pioneer ultra pitch for the WIN. imo turntables without ultra pitch are not as useful.
no one in their right mind would part with the gold Tech. my Brother Magic Mike has his in his studio, he has a set of M3D's in the cases in the garage and a set he takes out on tour....Techs are tanks, no one is denying that, but there are other options that perform just as well....although my PLX did not.
you prob don't even have them you just saying that to be cool ,if you have to put down other peoples choices then you aint shit
Dope video! !!! How are they for battle scratching?
Man these are great , they feel just like my tech ' s with some subtle improvements, couldn't be happier. I posted a beat juggling video last night too with these. I Wil do a scratch video, very soon.. Peace g.
lmmfao... a question like that? must not be a battle dj....lol
No torque comparuson..rlly?
yo I gotta get them pioneers, otherwise my 15 year old sl 1200s are still spinning like a long lasting Honda lol
1200's is way to go hands down..
Correct
for a dumbass like you maybe dont speak for everyone esle
👍🏾
The Technics 1200 put out better sound it respond more better the Pioneer okay but technique been around too long I don't care what they come up with always going to be techniques for me
If you rely on beatmatching and long blends for house or techno etc these are horrible
How come?
shorter cables give better signal from the cartridge.
Go with the ORIGINATOR and not the IMITATOR!!!
So true
Technics are overrated
f you have to put down other peoples choices then you aint shit
It looks like the Denon VL12 Prime is going to put this Pioneer abomination to bed. Pioneer build quality is pathetic
This is true numark have always been better than pioneer
your reply didn't age well, the tonearm on the Denon is nowhere the quality of the Pioneer arm
PLX1000 is made by Hanpin just like Reloop, Stanton, Audio Technica and many more. It's from the same assembly line. Plus, the plx has a huge feedback problem. I'd rather buy a used technics or the Reloop RP 7000 mk2 as it seems the best bang for the buck with the features it offers (in eg. Stanton st150 m2 is the same shit in different casing but they didnt put the torque and brake controls on it probably because they're cheap bastards). Either way, Pioneer is just overpriced chinese crap.
Racist
Thanks Ziggy , one of the few speaking sense and facts in the comments section.
@@felipechan9654 U wot m8¿
Aaam, aaam, aaam, aaam
PLX is standart Hanpin OEM sh*t .. it has horrible wow and flutter, rumble and massive feedback .. you can try it if you know how..PEACE
Its all about envy and racist, pls change your attitude sir
@@felipechan9654 envy and racist? Tell me what is envy and racist on my post. You dont not know what you are talking about. Have any Hanpin turnrables in hand? No.. you are normal hater, so calm down please
Pioneer trash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pioneer make better amps speakers cassette decks even car stereos