I've been able to do all of this (including the Jews harp) since I was a little kid, I was not making music, I was enraging my teachers by making "impossible sounds" when their backs were turned. I have one bit of advice: if you smoke, quit now, if you don't smoke, do not start. It will ruin your ability to do any of this over time and as near as I can tell it's permanent. Now, what I really want to say is this: Thank you for your videos, they are both perfect and funny as heck. This makes you a great teacher in my opinion, you turn something that seems hard and make it fun to learn. I cat wait to go see you in concert, and yah, no pressure right?
One other thing, the overtones need you throat to be wide open, like you are going to puke (don't, it's yucky) and part of the sound will feel like it's coming out your nose, you control this with the back of your tongue. So... Open everything, it feels weird, then find the right pitch and your tongue should feel like it's pulled into the back of your throat almost use the back of it in tiny amounts to adjust the pitch. Start by going through vowels, you will find your spot by doing so. Mine are between I E and O (rather coming I think) but others may find their spot elsewhere. To make this really easy to learn try humming while whistling, that wl teach you overtones in a few seconds but will not teach you throat singing with overtones instantly, you have to learn both throat singing and overtone singing separately. The whistling with humming shows you want you can do inside your mouth while freaking out your friends.
Really? Cuz I smoke cigars and my throat-singing hasn't been impaired. Is it possible that it's because it's cigars that it's not having a noticable negative effect?
I smoke... well, not cigarettes (I quit about 2015), but still... and I can screech like a harpy and I can whistle in a rolling way (like a train conductors whistle - I'm trying to get as loud with it), which is rather similiar to the rolling of the throat singing, I think. I can also whistle with a vibrating undertone. I'm trying to learn it and I have no issues with getting "growling" sounds (I can't go high into the "I" vocal and I have issues with the "U" but I guess that's training) and when trying to Sygyt, it's just a really sharp whistle added. I feel like I just need to learn to combine it properly - or find the sweet spots.
Your videos are actually really incredible, I was able to find the basic Khoomei style sound with my voice in a very short time by following your videos and even find the tongue position to make a couple of overtone sounds in as little as about an hour. Of course I am still very bad at it all, have very limited control and am quite inconsistent but just by following your video guides I was able to at least develop an understanding of the fundamentals very quickly.
But the good thing about overtone singing is that you don't really need to be able to sing in tune. The overtones are always in tune with the base note. It's not possible to sing overtones out of tune to the base note. So as long as you sing alone and without an instrument to accompany you, you will always sound in tune.
I can never figure the sygyt style out, the whistle is too hard. The other two styles were practically intuitive by comparison, I learned how to do it in like 15 mins and it didn't take much beyond that to become quite good at it, just a few minutes a day. No matter what I cannot figure out how to get the whistle down
Okay so maybe you've figured it out by now but I'd suggest you just sing khoomei and keep changing the shape of your mouth untill you start hearing an overtone. If you can whistle (just normal whistle), this might help you. Do keep in mind it is not quite the same shape.
@@LG-te4vh Still cant figure it out lol the frustrating thing is that I can whistle with overtone anyway, Im a really good whistler so I should be able to figure this out. I wonder if it has something to do with the size of my tongue at this point, like I cant create the sound far back enough.
Dude I just do it... I don't know why, all the videos I've seen say it's the most difficult style. But I just do it. I picked it up really fast. My singing range is tenor, I have a high-pitched whistle already, so maybe I just naturally do it? My only question is how to have better breathing techniques/lung capacity.
Yo yo yo Do you mix both techniques? Khoomei with overtone? Does your singing sound similar to Radik Tyulush's sygyt? Try recording your singing and compare to his, if they sound similar, then you're on the right path Usually people mistake sygyt with just overtone. About lung capacity, try singing for as long as you can. That will help you to be more comfortable in holding the breath and also it gives more power eventually
Could you do a or point to a video that teaches a non-Mongolian speaker to sing a Mongolian song that could be sung while doing Hu Mai? I want to learn one, and get the pronunciation correct, and then sing it with Hu Mai😀 I learned tons of songs in different Chinese languages/dialects before I was able to speak them, and would love to do the same with Mongolian, now that I can sort of do Hu Mai.
Hey Battur, been some time ehh. I still you're giving people a very important gift that is barbar singing. I got a question for you tho, there is a maghtal Its praise of ghenghis khan and you probably know it. There is a crazy high pitched sygyt style but I can't say its fully sygyt or its just a very different one almost sounds like a hawk do you know what type of whistle they are using in that music many thxx. Oh greeting from turkey btw
Heeey! Yeah, its one of the techniques, my guess is that we have to use our tongue to create that high pitched vibration sound But of course, it is better to try that out once we master khoomei and sygyt(isgeree), which are the foundational ways
the first one was generated by "Mongolian name generator" service online, it was a joke reference to NigaHiga's how to be gangster :D I like how you wrote the name "Buttur" as it makes me feel like someone who is into the backdoor stuff :D :D :D
eeey privetushki! :D v moyom poslednem video, gde to v seredine, ya poproboval obyasnit etu tehniku, skoree vsego ti znaesh ob etom, no esli interesno, mojesh zaglyanut :D
Хоч я і українець, і російською не розмовляю (навіть не розумію), але тема горлового співу мені дуже цікава! І я поки намагаюсь засвоїти стиль «Карґираа», це трохи складно, але щось таки у мене подекуди виходить, і після засвоєння стиля «Карґираа», буду намагатися засвоїти «Хоммей» та «Сиґит». (Я сподіваюся, що правильно написав назви стилів горлового співу (;ŏ﹏ŏ) )
The jaw harp, I guess? German website says 38 Yaroo, including shipping - but you can get lower quality for a lot cheaper (10 bucks?) if you need to, I bet.
@@hassanmaqsood1910 aaah yes, I got that one from Russia :D There are many craftsmen from all different ethnicities of all over Russia including Russians who make very nice instruments :D
yo yo yo, its Battur, sounds similar but comes from different words :D Batu turu (firm/strong state) whereas batyr is from the word baatar (bagator - warrior) =)
The Frogolian, The Kachapuriman, The Green Batman himself is back! good to see, that your video is back in the menu!
I've been able to do all of this (including the Jews harp) since I was a little kid, I was not making music, I was enraging my teachers by making "impossible sounds" when their backs were turned.
I have one bit of advice: if you smoke, quit now, if you don't smoke, do not start. It will ruin your ability to do any of this over time and as near as I can tell it's permanent.
Now, what I really want to say is this:
Thank you for your videos, they are both perfect and funny as heck. This makes you a great teacher in my opinion, you turn something that seems hard and make it fun to learn.
I cat wait to go see you in concert, and yah, no pressure right?
One other thing, the overtones need you throat to be wide open, like you are going to puke (don't, it's yucky) and part of the sound will feel like it's coming out your nose, you control this with the back of your tongue. So... Open everything, it feels weird, then find the right pitch and your tongue should feel like it's pulled into the back of your throat almost use the back of it in tiny amounts to adjust the pitch.
Start by going through vowels, you will find your spot by doing so. Mine are between I E and O (rather coming I think) but others may find their spot elsewhere.
To make this really easy to learn try humming while whistling, that wl teach you overtones in a few seconds but will not teach you throat singing with overtones instantly, you have to learn both throat singing and overtone singing separately. The whistling with humming shows you want you can do inside your mouth while freaking out your friends.
Really? Cuz I smoke cigars and my throat-singing hasn't been impaired. Is it possible that it's because it's cigars that it's not having a noticable negative effect?
I smoke... well, not cigarettes (I quit about 2015), but still... and I can screech like a harpy and I can whistle in a rolling way (like a train conductors whistle - I'm trying to get as loud with it), which is rather similiar to the rolling of the throat singing, I think. I can also whistle with a vibrating undertone.
I'm trying to learn it and I have no issues with getting "growling" sounds (I can't go high into the "I" vocal and I have issues with the "U" but I guess that's training) and when trying to Sygyt, it's just a really sharp whistle added.
I feel like I just need to learn to combine it properly - or find the sweet spots.
Idk man I'm an avid stoner and throat sing all the time, learned about a year ago and if anything my vocal range has only increased
Your videos are so cool but I can't do throat singing without my neighbours thinking I have some terrible illness
Whuaha xD
I was sitting here wondering when you would upload again and then I get a notification saying you uploaded. Bruh your vids are fire
I got interested in all this and more by coming across the HU 💕 Hoomii and sygyt is so intriguing Thank you for sharing!!
Your videos are actually really incredible, I was able to find the basic Khoomei style sound with my voice in a very short time by following your videos and even find the tongue position to make a couple of overtone sounds in as little as about an hour. Of course I am still very bad at it all, have very limited control and am quite inconsistent but just by following your video guides I was able to at least develop an understanding of the fundamentals very quickly.
Eeeeey, thank you! :D
Thank you as always for the information and humor. In other news, your hair is seriously enviable.
The legend is back!
Great video!
It's really breathtaking how people do stuff like this. I can't even sing for that matter....
But the good thing about overtone singing is that you don't really need to be able to sing in tune. The overtones are always in tune with the base note. It's not possible to sing overtones out of tune to the base note. So as long as you sing alone and without an instrument to accompany you, you will always sound in tune.
Thankyou for bringing this to me in australia. I will fol0w your suggestions
We also use Batur as a name in Turkey.
dude you rock :D thanks for the video! trying to learn how to throat sing
Баттур как всегда лучший!❤
Спасибочки 😇
I can never figure the sygyt style out, the whistle is too hard. The other two styles were practically intuitive by comparison, I learned how to do it in like 15 mins and it didn't take much beyond that to become quite good at it, just a few minutes a day. No matter what I cannot figure out how to get the whistle down
Okay so maybe you've figured it out by now but I'd suggest you just sing khoomei and keep changing the shape of your mouth untill you start hearing an overtone. If you can whistle (just normal whistle), this might help you. Do keep in mind it is not quite the same shape.
@@LG-te4vh Still cant figure it out lol the frustrating thing is that I can whistle with overtone anyway, Im a really good whistler so I should be able to figure this out. I wonder if it has something to do with the size of my tongue at this point, like I cant create the sound far back enough.
Dude I just do it... I don't know why, all the videos I've seen say it's the most difficult style. But I just do it. I picked it up really fast. My singing range is tenor, I have a high-pitched whistle already, so maybe I just naturally do it? My only question is how to have better breathing techniques/lung capacity.
Yo yo yo
Do you mix both techniques? Khoomei with overtone? Does your singing sound similar to Radik Tyulush's sygyt? Try recording your singing and compare to his, if they sound similar, then you're on the right path
Usually people mistake sygyt with just overtone. About lung capacity, try singing for as long as you can. That will help you to be more comfortable in holding the breath and also it gives more power eventually
The bloopers😂🙈
yoooo he's back
hurray :D
@@Hachapuri69 hoorrayyyyyyy
Nice videos man, I found ur channel ‘cause I’ve started to learn throatsinging, and I’m wondering if u speak russian ‘cause I’m from Kazakhstan :D
Yeee bratan :D
Zdorovo, mi kak, pochti sosedi whuaha xD
Anna-Maria Hefele a "quite complex" name
meanwhile this guys name:
Galdan Suke Khuril Ashigh Sacha Tseren Yesun Khara Gulugu Agsaladai Yekeidun Khashin Yabuga
xD
Does Pikachu help? He’s the one with the sonic blast power I think
Could you do a or point to a video that teaches a non-Mongolian speaker to sing a Mongolian song that could be sung while doing Hu Mai? I want to learn one, and get the pronunciation correct, and then sing it with Hu Mai😀 I learned tons of songs in different Chinese languages/dialects before I was able to speak them, and would love to do the same with Mongolian, now that I can sort of do Hu Mai.
Quality editing.
Basically you’re doing Khoomei and say “L”.
This was actually really helpful!
Even screwing around you play the ukulele very well. 🤣
Hey Battur, been some time ehh. I still you're giving people a very important gift that is barbar singing. I got a question for you tho, there is a maghtal Its praise of ghenghis khan and you probably know it. There is a crazy high pitched sygyt style but I can't say its fully sygyt or its just a very different one almost sounds like a hawk do you know what type of whistle they are using in that music many thxx. Oh greeting from turkey btw
Heeey! Yeah, its one of the techniques, my guess is that we have to use our tongue to create that high pitched vibration sound
But of course, it is better to try that out once we master khoomei and sygyt(isgeree), which are the foundational ways
@@Hachapuri69 I appreciate it
2:46 "Quite a complex name."
Battur
Cheers for this
Lol, I wish I had watched your videos 8 months ago.
in Chile is called Trompe. greetings
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So how do you go from a name "Galdan Suke Khuril Ashigh Sacha Tseren Yesun Khara Gulugu Agsaldai Yekeidun Khashin Yabuga" to "Buttur"?
the first one was generated by "Mongolian name generator" service online, it was a joke reference to NigaHiga's how to be gangster :D
I like how you wrote the name "Buttur" as it makes me feel like someone who is into the backdoor stuff :D :D :D
@@Hachapuri69 I so focused to spell correctly your fake name that all my remaining brain cells went "nope we don't do Mongolian names anymore" :D
Sain bna u..can u make a tutorial about the horse style?
1:04
Я не думал, что ты говоришь по-русски, но надеялся)
У меня все никак не получается сыгыт как у топчиков.
Удачи в освоении!
eeey privetushki! :D
v moyom poslednem video, gde to v seredine, ya poproboval obyasnit etu tehniku, skoree vsego ti znaesh ob etom, no esli interesno, mojesh zaglyanut :D
Merci Froggie
Sheesh new video
Хоч я і українець, і російською не розмовляю (навіть не розумію), але тема горлового співу мені дуже цікава! І я поки намагаюсь засвоїти стиль «Карґираа», це трохи складно, але щось таки у мене подекуди виходить, і після засвоєння стиля «Карґираа», буду намагатися засвоїти «Хоммей» та «Сиґит». (Я сподіваюся, що правильно написав назви стилів горлового співу (;ŏ﹏ŏ) )
Хлопцы, кантактуйте на белоруски кали ласка :D
I had to read your comment 2-3 times to get it somehow. Dyakuyu for watching this video! :D
Hey how do you spell the Mongolian word for sygyt in Roman and Cyrillic? Coz google translate says "shugel"
Heeeey! You can find it with this word "isgeree" or "исгэрээ" :D
Shugel also means whistle, just like the tuvan word Sygyt :D
@@Hachapuri69 thanks 👍🏽
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nice books you have there
you keep confirming that you are a person of culture
@@Hachapuri69 oh thanks hihi
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@@Kurufinwe_Fayanaro is that Elvish? :O
Yeah it's quenya from when Frodo meets the elves in Woody End
6:53 imagine how proud Genghis khan would be lol
What means yo puru yopuru
Dobar dan moi brat, I don't know what that means :O
@@Hachapuri69 give me your IG to send to you
@@Nikadeathful its NisdegYamaa :D
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And what about the oppa gangnam style??
how much this thing costs?
Which one?
The jaw harp, I guess? German website says 38 Yaroo, including shipping - but you can get lower quality for a lot cheaper (10 bucks?) if you need to, I bet.
Where did you get that instrument?
Ukulele? I got it from Thomann music store :D
@@Hachapuri69 nah the whistle spring thing, it sounds really cool
@@hassanmaqsood1910 aaah yes, I got that one from Russia :D
There are many craftsmen from all different ethnicities of all over Russia including Russians who make very nice instruments :D
@@Hachapuri69 do you know its name?
@@hassanmaqsood1910 you can find it in English - Jaw harp :D
hax
Bro your name is batyr?
yo yo yo, its Battur, sounds similar but comes from different words :D
Batu turu (firm/strong state)
whereas batyr is from the word baatar (bagator - warrior)
=)
@@Hachapuri69 oh I thought you said batyr but thanks
@@Hachapuri69 yeah but I actually thought your name was Galdan Suke Khuril ashigh Sacha Tseren Yesun Khara Gulugu Agsaldai Yekeidun Khashin Yabuga
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