I have been saying this for years, but there is no reason for him to be good. I always imagined it as a new game plus mode unlock, or an expansion to one of the main titles. Set as a sort of prequel before the main game begins, you play as Ganondorf as he travels around Hyrule conquering the dungeons, defeating the bosses into submission and converting them to evil beings. Ganondorf would have his own unique playstyle of course, but you could experience all of the dungeons and fights in new way, and it would come complete with a new slew of side quests promoting his evil ways.
A game from the perspective of a young Ganondorf, prince of Gerudo, would be incredible. They'll do it eventually, but who knows if it'll be in the next decade or two.
@@zaidepaine Yeah. Calling it the missing link or legend of link etc is fun for a 'haha okay' but I wouldn't want the game named after a decades old joke.
Well being that you're a nobody that doesn't work with/make the game let me be 100% with you and say "it doesnt matter what you call it in your fruitwad eyes"
At 08:14 I love how he tried to use the echo of a fish to fight other fish but accidentally dropped his. But then realised fish die when outside of water after watching his own fish die. Then started to pull out the enemy fish. Game lets you try different approaches.
While BOTW and TOTK are great, theres something about the 3D era from Ocarina to Skyward Sword that is just really good. Twilight Princess was fantastic, Majoras Mask, Wind Waker…. man classics. I need THAT back.
Honestly I wouldn't want to go back. Out of the games you listed, my favorite is WW and that's because it had a similar (but more limited) sense of freedom to Tears and BotW. If you ask me the best thing they could do is have a massive new map just with better dungeons, and exciting new ways to traverse/interact with the world. Twilight Princess was great, but it felt like a retread of OoT in many ways. The reason I love Zelda is because new games push the envelope. TP was very cool, but it is the most derivative mainline Zelda IMO.
@@OneTrueNobodythey were praised at launch... The formula just got stale after 5 entries, Breath of the Wild was a literal breath of fresh air. I'm sure traditional dungeons will come back, probably in the next mainline entry.
This is not at all what I wanted for the next Zelda game, but I kept an open mind and the trailer looked interesting. Few hours in and it's fantastic. A little slow, but the problem solving and puzzles make it great. Never cared to play as Zelda at any point, but this game definitely did not let down the franchise. 9/10
I’m enjoying it so far, classic style with newer gameplay styles. My two biggest grievances are the endless scrolling in the echoes menu and the more or less limited use of a lot of echoes. Need a bridge? Beds! Need a ladder? Water!
@@breezybee777 they both have their perks. Links awakening was a known gem with some extremely funny stuff in it including a bunch of other Nintendo characters. This one is its own thing and completely changes the gameplay/problem solving. I love the art style for sure!
@@nicklinn5731 okay thanks, I asked because for me links awakening is probably my least favorite of my favorite Zelda games. So if it is not as good I may pass for now. Mostly because of the pricing.
To be fair Nintendo never patches there games in any meaningful ways and never goes on a meaningful sale. So if you want to try it doesn't matter if it's now or later it's likely to cost the same and be the same experience
I think the most important part of this game is that Zelda officially has a B-team now with Grezzo. 86 metacritic score is pretty good for a first time outing with completely new directors. Hopefully it means they can eventually make original traditional 3D Zelda games too
I want a co-op Zelda game where they travel Hyrule together and the puzzles and bosses require both players to work together. If they hold hands it refills their heart meters.
what you mean, thats link. its the legend of ZELDA afterall. nintendo wouldnt have us playing as not the main named titular character all this years.... surely....
I was hoping for a remake of the Oracle games since they used a lot of assets from Link's Awakening, but I can't believe we haven't gotten a remake of the original. Zelda II also seems like it could be a good candidate for one
Actually that sounds like an amazing idea. It would need to be overhauled and have more content added unless they wanted to just make it a minor, cheap title to tide us over for something else. Although they pretty much did this with Link to the Past when they made Link Between Worlds, didn't they? Everyone calls it a spiritual successor.
@ramrodbldm9876 I haven't played Link Between Worlds but it sounds like it's own thing. Definitely takes a lot from A Link to the Past, but it's not the same game.
the clip of you trying to get the horse up a bed bridge twice and failing, only to go "you know, f**k it" and just carry the horse over the bridge actually made me chuckle lol
Open world isn't the golden goose anymore. There is no reason, other than being closed-minded, to think that anything that was once popular isn't still or can't become popular again, especially after a long sabbatical. A company like Nintendo should certainly have been aware of that.
Disagree big time - the larger the open world, the better, for a Zelda game. TOTK is the best game ever made, ever, so far, for me. I want another game just like TOTK only bigger and more realistic and as close as possible to having a real virtual life as Link.
Yep, but unfortunately that becomes the standard way of thinking. "Modernized" and "updated for a modern audience" are treated as positives by default. Anything that doesn't follow the template and has a unique control scheme is "clunky" and "outdated". Open world can bring great things but it can also bring fluff/lack of gameplay density, unnecessary progression systems, and homogenized gameplay mechanics. Drip feeding, low stakes. I mean how many games are basically some combination of souls and a story driven Sony game? Half of them feel exactly the same. The arcade roots are lost completely, less experimentation. Gen 6 had an interesting balance.of design philosophies.
Breathe of the Wild and Tears are the 2 highest selling games in the franchise, clearly its working out for them. Why would they go back to a format that sold less?
Frankly I'm happy to see another one in this style. I personally dislike the open world zeldas. Not my cup of tea... dislike the gimmicks with the slaye and build stuff in tears bs. Sure, this one has a gimmick, but it feels better in this space than the open world. Though, could just be me. 😅
I'm having a blast. It looks kinda childish in aesthetics department but the mechanics, creativity and gameplay is all top notch for all ages. Highly recommended and if you're a Zelda fan...well it's another 'after you buy' kinda situation. Also,new mic Falcon? Who this?😂
It's called "Legend of Zelda" because Zelda is the figure of legend in universe. She is the one one with the sacred powers and a descendant of Hylia. Link is only a tertiary part of that legend.
I appreciate your view of Zelda games. A lot of people are very black and white about what type of Zelda games should exist, but you understand that there's room for all styles of Zelda games and there's a reason why so many people like them.
I am so much more interested in smaller and more densely populated worlds. I have a family now and don’t have hours to just roam blindly into vast emptiness
I love this style. I played the first 2 hours of Breath of the Wild and I just could not get into it. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not for me. My favorite of the series was SNES A Link to the Past. Then comes Minish Cap, Link's Awakening (switch), and this new one seems good. My mom bought it, so I'll play it after she's done, but it looks great. She's loving it so far.
@@insanimator Gotcha! If price is a factor, consider investing in a Steam Deck or any Windows handheld in the future. You can simply download any game you want directly onto the console and play it for free. Of course you can continue purchasing any game you want also. Switch emulation is a thing also but it's far from perfect right now.
With the existence of the game and Aounuma's comments elaborating on what design principles he told Grezzo to follow with this game, its clear that he wasn't just advocating for all future titles to follow the Breath of the Wild formula (massive focus on open world and shrines and limited dungeons) and was instead talking about ensuring that players always had some sort of choice they could make in how they approach the world. Something that would still be possible with a traditional zelda overworld and dungeons as long as the mechanics allowed for player expression.
I was like. Steer. You.... Nope. Fell off. 3 times. Like watching my mom play the original Super Mario Brothers. Every time. Jumping into the first pit. Was cracking everyone up. Not her likely. We thought it was amusing.
i simply adore that Link has the Hylian Shield. both Hylian Shield and Epona are not used enough in Zelda games and it's so nice to see Link have at least the shield, even if you're not actively playing as him for 99% of the game. i would love for oldest Zelda games to be remade in this style or similar. i only ever played the 3D games, starting with Ocarina of Time of course back in the day, but would love to play every game if it was remade today.
I'm really enjoying this game, I love the new tools and enjoy the return to the puzzle elements with open solutions. My only grievances are 1) the inconsistent frame rate (gives me a headache) and 2) the "quick" echo selection is a single row of all the possible options (idk how they got out of testing with that lol)
Finally beat the game and seeing how much stuff I missed like binding enemies. Automatons, certain Echoes, etc. The beauty of EoW is how open and free-form the game is, both with combat and puzzle design. You can literally skip the entirety of Jabul Ruins with just a few echoes.
I'm liking it so far. Starts off slow as you have to build up a collection of echoes, so combat is awkward early on, but, once you have some basic roles covered, you can roam around freely, scaling barriers and collecting echoes through pretty straightforward logic.
Guess what? This is yet another game that does it better than Pokemon. Why am I saying that? Well, think about it; you're catching the echos of monsters you defeat, which you can then summon to fight other monsters. Echoes of Wisdom is a better Pokemon game than the last few actual Pokemon games!
Bought this for my wife last week and she’s been having fun and it looks good. Was carious to hear your review because you like most of the game I like.
this game really feels like the perfect middle ground between modern zelda, and classic zelda. I really hope the main zelda team takes some notes from this, because while I really loved the newer zelda games, I did kind of miss having a LITTLE bit of structure to things.
@@Arctis326 True. I was overjoyed when I found out they basically doubled the size of the overworld in an alternate "dimension", only soon to find out how much of a slog it was to explore. It looks like one of those things a dev discovered while messing around with world generation, thought it was cool and they put it in the game without much thought.
This is one of the best games I've played this year and most creative Zelda games I have played in a long time - as someone burnt out by the series as a whole. I highly recommend this to any fan!!!
I always liked the puzzle aspect of Zelda games so I look forward to trying this game. I also like this style having played links awakening remake four years ago.
Yep, same. I have a lot of gripes about these new Zelda games. The toxic fans who believe Zelda can do no wrong are starting to make me sour on a series I played before many of these "gamers" parents reached puberty.
@@last_gasp2152Makes you use a variety of weapons and tactics. Sticking to one weapon would make combat monotonous. Many open world games fill ur inventory with useless stuff you will never use. BOTW and TOTK give everything viability.
@@ShanePZC I've touched it. The legitimate criticism made against durability was towards the other 2 games, not EoW. Read the comment again and I think you'll see.
The best game for after work or just a long day. Its chill, no stress, creative and fun. It isnt like all the other LoZ games but I really appreciate that. This game is exactly what I needed at this point in my life.
My biggest criticism is when you get a lot of echoes. It can be quite a chore trying to find the specific echo you wanna make I wish they had more ways of sorting them maybe even a favorite option.
@diegosotomiranda4107 Wand of Gamelon. Long story short, it was a poorly made game with animation done by a Russian studio I think. Nintendo was so disgusted they didn't really ever /never allowed anyone to touch their IP until Ubisoft with the Rabbids crossover
Im playing it right now and I think its fantastic. Zelda as a conjurer, super charming world, amazing sound and music, great control. Instant classic. You can FIGHT LINK?! The tables have turned
Well... since the game dropped they have always shown off that, excluding sword form, you're more like the backline or commander in an RTS than on the front lines slashing and smashing, yeah know?
I wouldn't so much say limited combat just coz you don't have a sword most of the time. There's still a ton of combat and fighting. The way I would describe the fighting is when you would need to fight with items rather than just hack and slash
Just finished the game over here. No, I did not 100% the game (plenty of time to do that later). I did go for an "organic" playthrough - I was looking to see how well the MSQ and side quests managed to flow together. It was surprisingly smooth. The game was a fantastic blend of puzzles and action - and if you're clever - you can abuse some seriously OP echo combos. I love LttP, ALBW, LA, and all the top-down games in the franchise. Also, funny you should mention Zelda II - I cheered when I saw you can get the Moa as an echo. I am a long-time biased fan; but I can wholly recommend this game to all Zelda franchise enjoyers. It is a wonderful little story and exceptionally fun. And a tip for those getting stuck at some puzzles: ignore your echoes, can you solve it with bind? Remember, everyone - Good luck and have fun!
MAN, these top down Zelda games are so good and innovative. A Link Between Worlds felt so different and this one feels so different. It’s really incredible what the design team for Zelda does.
Idea for a video: 10 Games That Change Completely Depending On Playstyle, it could be about games that feel like they play like completely different genres based on your playstyle, or choices you can make that entirely change their outcome in meaningful ways
Been playing Zelda 20 years but the game uses both old and modern gameplay, even though we are playing as Zelda, it doesn’t make it less than other Zelda games in fact it made me love the franchise all over again just like when I first play Link to the past.
@@tanzolo4487well it’s gotten worse. And sure it’s simple. Design the game graphically and mechanically to be able to run smoothly on your hardware. Don’t make a game that the only console it will be on can’t run it. If other studios can make games that run good on multiple consoles and pc gpus I think a giant company like Nintendo can figure it out for one console. Maybe lock the game at 30fps instead of trying to hit 60fps. Etc there’s plenty of options. No excuse for this massive company to put out games that can’t run for shit
I’m probably 90% done and my biggest problem is that the constant dialogue, especially from Tri, takes so so long. Every event I get to could be swiftly read through in seconds but takes minutes. Just opening a rift entrance feels like my brain is melting
The monster itself does not, but its effects do. Early on you get a Burning Ball type monster. You can freely pick it up and throw it around and what not. But anything it catches on fire will damage you as well. This can happen with other effects too if the monsters trigger environmental traps.
@@orbitaldragon I get what you're saying, but that would be a skill issue. You wouldn't light a cigarrette near a leaking gas tank. From the way he said it, it seemed like the monster's attacks could hit Zelda in any context.
@@Catbrizzle yeah I wish it would swim between like 60 and 40 rather than going from a smooth 60 immediately to 30 and back and forth. There’s no in between it’s either 60 or 30 and when it switches… and it does often, it hurts my experience. I may wait until new hardware
Your mistake was going on reddit at all. That site is infested with fanboys of the games they made a subreddit for, so any complaining will be taken as an insult to these... people? And slam you and act like as if you killed their loved ones. Avoid that pile of garbage at all cost.
Yeah I'm shocked that Falcon made it seem like the frame dips were minor and easy to ignore. We aren't talking about seldomly going from 60 to the low 50s, its having the frame rate cut nearly in half. Digital Foundry did a great video on this and showed how jarring the performance is in certain areas. Having constant frame drops at this level takes away from the game's enjoyment. I kinda wish Gameranx started out the video talking about this and showed examples instead of putting it towards the end of the video where not everyone will make it that far.
@@DribinHe said the frame rate swings a lot, swinging “wildly” on the open world and when there’s a lot of enemies and effects, slowing down to “an annoying degree”. He literally says it’s a problem that cannot be ignored. Doesn’t seem minor.
I don't understand why you say this is the first Legend of Zelda game where you control Zelda. The series is called Legend of Zelda; we've always controlled Zelda. Maybe what you meant to say is that it's the first game where you control the princess. Thanks for the review, maybe I'll buy it.
The only game, in the series, you could control Zelda.... was Hyrule Warriors. We've always controlled Link, outside of that game. Link is the guy.... Zelda is the princess.
Damn, I surely missed the feeling of needing a shameful amount of time to solve a puzzle that was designed to be also solved by six year old kids because I was thinking way too complicated and began to questioning myself on how I even made it through elementary school but then felt really accomplished when I finally solved it. Classic Zelda. I love it. That one puzzle in that one dungeon. Pretty sure the game design was hinting me in the direction on how to solve that puzzle. But instead I just started to rage spawn echoes for half an hour until I finally solved it by accident. It worked. I don't know how. But it worked.
10 hours space marine for 70 is poop to me i only want single player. Im waiting for the holiday sale but astro bot was amazing . Pure joy.... except some of those challenge levels 😂
@@KSSBG Here in the US it's $60 and if you add the co-op missions, which can all be played solo, the single player content is closer to 12-15 hours depending on your difficulty setting. The co-op missions are all connected to the story and have unique bosses, classes, and mission objectives not available in the main campaign so they are a must play to see everything the game has to offer. Considering the co-op and pvp content has so much replayability and things to unlock the game is definitely worth $60.
I love this game so much already. Links awakening and a link between worlds were kind of vying for a top 3 spot for Zelda games but this one might take their spot along with botw and minish cap
If there's one glaring problem with LoZ Echoes of Wisdom, is the echoes inventory. No matter how I sorted it I'm constantly scrolling through them and it just gets longer with every new echo 😢 Unless I'm doing something wrong 😅
im not much of a fan of the LoZ series but this one looks really really interesting. the echoes system seems really creative and opens up so much possibility space for interesting puzzles.
I have always been a fan of the Zelda series but I’m just kinda not interested at all here or with tears of the kingdom… it’s like taking the lightsabers out of Star Wars, immediately disinterested
@@godxxofxxwar22 He's in the game all over the place. You literally start the game as him. Not to mention you have sword fighter mode which is just Link Mode. You're trippin.
That exists. It's on Steam, XBox, Switch, PS4 and PS5. Now I don't like to cut my grass in real life, WHY would I want to play a game simulating something I CAN do and also HATE doing.... in REAL life!
I don't know how to exactly describe it properly but I consider Breath of the Wild to be the same thing as a single kingdom from Mario Odyssey but blown up to a giant map. Finding a shrine is the equivalent of finding a moon and then if you have to go into a tunnel and play a special area to get the moon That's the same as playing a shrine in order to get the reward from the shrine rather than it just giving it to you for finding it. The characters obviously have completely different movesets in each of the games but That's the main difference honestly. Sometimes when I play a video game I just want to play like the core gameplay of the game and I don't care about all the other fluff so I'll end up just playing the mode that gives you just the core gameplay. Well when I finally got bored of The main game which is Breath of the Wild then I went and played Mario Odyssey. I hope I did at least somewhat of a good job of describing and so that's why having Zelda games like Link's Awakening are good. Less story and more gameplay though the story in Link's Awakening is pretty good.
I really like it so far, the framerate as you mentioned tho was very noticeable as soon as I hit Castle town, apart from that it's run pretty consistently
Nintendo's biggest problem is lack of challenge modes/performance evaluation features/achievements. This also looks like a menu fest. Will still probably play through but Nintendo has gone to baby level difficulty lately in too extreme a direction (metroid being the one exception).
@@tanzolo4487 It is their responsibility to design something that goes further than one or two playthroughs. Not gonna knock someone for wanting their games to be nice and breezy but they used to develop games with infinite appeal. Now it's all about taking the casual gamer on a one time joyride. An arcade mode or something would add real depth and repayability and the core mechanics of this game seem suitable for such a thing.
@thommccarthy1139 should be happy the game let's u have fun for 1 playthrough, most games these days u can't even have fun for an hour without feeling like shit for playing it.
@@JM-pm1ybExcept in this case Nintendo is trying to trademark both the RPG and monster battler formats. Looking at the patents (filed after Palworld and many other games came out) its clear it targets not only Palworld but any RPG not made by Nintendo.
@@chdreturns Even as someone who wants Nintendo to lose...that's nonsense. You can't trademark entire genres you'd get laughed out of court. Patents protect concrete inventions and processes only, genres fall into overall frameworks which are not covered by patent law. It's probably over the capture mechanic given other "Pokemon clones" like TemTem and Nexomon use things like cards and traps instead of balls.
Finally we can play as the princess instead of Zelda
Huh?
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Lol
😂
Ah yes. The legend of link this time 😂😅
We should play as Ganon in the next one.
Rescuing Hyrule from the vanadalous green boy who goes around smashing everyone's pots.
I have been saying this for years, but there is no reason for him to be good. I always imagined it as a new game plus mode unlock, or an expansion to one of the main titles. Set as a sort of prequel before the main game begins, you play as Ganondorf as he travels around Hyrule conquering the dungeons, defeating the bosses into submission and converting them to evil beings. Ganondorf would have his own unique playstyle of course, but you could experience all of the dungeons and fights in new way, and it would come complete with a new slew of side quests promoting his evil ways.
And terrorizing chickens.
@@Altemeous no need to help the cucco's. They already have their little feathery mafia.
Dungeon Keeper x Zelda, like what Crypt of the Necrodancer did
just uh, taking out the mistress...
A game from the perspective of a young Ganondorf, prince of Gerudo, would be incredible. They'll do it eventually, but who knows if it'll be in the next decade or two.
This game will always be called "The Legend of Zelda: The Missing Link" in my eyes.
Well played
Echoes of wisdom feels more clever since the game revolves around your wisdom, and that’s the triforce piece Zelda has
@@zaidepaine Yeah. Calling it the missing link or legend of link etc is fun for a 'haha okay' but I wouldn't want the game named after a decades old joke.
Well being that you're a nobody that doesn't work with/make the game let me be 100% with you and say "it doesnt matter what you call it in your fruitwad eyes"
@@MalzraAirwynn ive been hearing that joke for weeks now its so annoying atp -_-
You play as Link for 5 minutes. Beat the game. Then the rest is post-game with Zelda.
Explains why the game is so easy like its made for babies
Such a bad bait and switch
@@chiquita683 this is a non-sequitur. You just wanna piss on the game for no good reason.
But what if link identities as Zelda?
@@ilbroducciore wdym no good reason? Cant fathom that some people actually care about a game being too easy?
Essentially this is an action RPG where you play as a Summoner class.
But to do anything you have to go into a menu
Yikes
It's Elden Ring! ❤❤❤❤
It's greed Island from Hunter x Hunter. Collecting items and being able to summon them
At 08:14 I love how he tried to use the echo of a fish to fight other fish but accidentally dropped his. But then realised fish die when outside of water after watching his own fish die. Then started to pull out the enemy fish. Game lets you try different approaches.
While BOTW and TOTK are great, theres something about the 3D era from Ocarina to Skyward Sword that is just really good. Twilight Princess was fantastic, Majoras Mask, Wind Waker…. man classics. I need THAT back.
Maybe if people actually praised those games at launch instead of a decade-plus after release, Nintendo would make more of 'em. :V
Honestly I wouldn't want to go back. Out of the games you listed, my favorite is WW and that's because it had a similar (but more limited) sense of freedom to Tears and BotW. If you ask me the best thing they could do is have a massive new map just with better dungeons, and exciting new ways to traverse/interact with the world.
Twilight Princess was great, but it felt like a retread of OoT in many ways. The reason I love Zelda is because new games push the envelope. TP was very cool, but it is the most derivative mainline Zelda IMO.
Still there in your wiiu and switch
Not skyward sword
@@OneTrueNobodythey were praised at launch... The formula just got stale after 5 entries, Breath of the Wild was a literal breath of fresh air. I'm sure traditional dungeons will come back, probably in the next mainline entry.
This is not at all what I wanted for the next Zelda game, but I kept an open mind and the trailer looked interesting. Few hours in and it's fantastic. A little slow, but the problem solving and puzzles make it great. Never cared to play as Zelda at any point, but this game definitely did not let down the franchise. 9/10
Finally a zelda main character game and you guys put link in the tumbnail...
Cry more
Fr bro, 😂 why did they put Link
That’s Zelda what you talking about
What are you talking about man, that's clearly Zelda in the thumbnail... 🤔
@@perfidious333cry more yourself
I’m enjoying it so far, classic style with newer gameplay styles. My two biggest grievances are the endless scrolling in the echoes menu and the more or less limited use of a lot of echoes. Need a bridge? Beds! Need a ladder? Water!
@@nicklinn5731 a bot stole your comment. It's posted in this comment thread. Wtf is even going on anymore???
@@AsaRush what an honor lol
Do you like it better than links awakening?
@@breezybee777 they both have their perks. Links awakening was a known gem with some extremely funny stuff in it including a bunch of other Nintendo characters. This one is its own thing and completely changes the gameplay/problem solving. I love the art style for sure!
@@nicklinn5731 okay thanks, I asked because for me links awakening is probably my least favorite of my favorite Zelda games. So if it is not as good I may pass for now. Mostly because of the pricing.
I already bought it ... Zelda is the only game franchise I buy day one.
Same, also from software games have gained my trust. They’re kinda reminiscent of Zelda.
To be fair Nintendo never patches there games in any meaningful ways and never goes on a meaningful sale. So if you want to try it doesn't matter if it's now or later it's likely to cost the same and be the same experience
I was 99% sure this be good, my only concern is, it's enough of an experiment they could screw it up.
It's as safe a bet as you can make
@@vizioax2 They don't really patch them because, outside of Pokemon, their games are full and functional on day 1
Honestly Breath and Tears were good but I prefer these style of Zelda games. As long as they keep changing the gameplay hook
Yeah me too I love the top down games I hope they keep making more. Putting new twist on the formula like they have is great
Unfortunately this game still has plenty of botw elements lil
I think the most important part of this game is that Zelda officially has a B-team now with Grezzo. 86 metacritic score is pretty good for a first time outing with completely new directors. Hopefully it means they can eventually make original traditional 3D Zelda games too
Both games actually arent good at all
@@Mirage475 or maybe they will be able to make there Zelda dungeon maker
I want a co-op Zelda game where they travel Hyrule together and the puzzles and bosses require both players to work together.
If they hold hands it refills their heart meters.
They made that game already, it's called 4 swords
Aw that would be very cute
So something similar to it takes two?
Nope. After this we should be back to link
"What if we put our bed echos together? No that would be silly... unless 😳"
LOCK IN BOYS TIME TO SAVE LINK!
what you mean, thats link. its the legend of ZELDA afterall. nintendo wouldnt have us playing as not the main named titular character all this years.... surely....
You play as Link? You save Zelda this time
LOCK IN GIRLS*
You shut your mouth when you talk
@@Smokey54834you poop your pants when you sht
I just want a remake of the original Legend of Zelda in this style. A Link to the past would be great too! Easy money 💰
I was hoping for a remake of the Oracle games since they used a lot of assets from Link's Awakening, but I can't believe we haven't gotten a remake of the original. Zelda II also seems like it could be a good candidate for one
Actually that sounds like an amazing idea. It would need to be overhauled and have more content added unless they wanted to just make it a minor, cheap title to tide us over for something else.
Although they pretty much did this with Link to the Past when they made Link Between Worlds, didn't they? Everyone calls it a spiritual successor.
They already did lttp shows how much you know
@ramrodbldm9876 I haven't played Link Between Worlds but it sounds like it's own thing. Definitely takes a lot from A Link to the Past, but it's not the same game.
@@ramrodbldm9876I mean it was very minor. But link between worlds is more than enough. Feels like a final fantasy 7 remake type remake
the clip of you trying to get the horse up a bed bridge twice and failing, only to go "you know, f**k it" and just carry the horse over the bridge actually made me chuckle lol
I think once people have had time to digest it, it will eventually go down as one of the best in the series. Really well designed game
Yep, just like most zelda games.
Open world isn't the golden goose anymore. There is no reason, other than being closed-minded, to think that anything that was once popular isn't still or can't become popular again, especially after a long sabbatical. A company like Nintendo should certainly have been aware of that.
Looks like they were because they made this.
Disagree big time - the larger the open world, the better, for a Zelda game. TOTK is the best game ever made, ever, so far, for me. I want another game just like TOTK only bigger and more realistic and as close as possible to having a real virtual life as Link.
@@BowTie8Bit Agree to disagree, TOTK was the first Zelda I couldn't finish and that really bummed me out.
Yep, but unfortunately that becomes the standard way of thinking. "Modernized" and "updated for a modern audience" are treated as positives by default. Anything that doesn't follow the template and has a unique control scheme is "clunky" and "outdated".
Open world can bring great things but it can also bring fluff/lack of gameplay density, unnecessary progression systems, and homogenized gameplay mechanics. Drip feeding, low stakes. I mean how many games are basically some combination of souls and a story driven Sony game? Half of them feel exactly the same. The arcade roots are lost completely, less experimentation. Gen 6 had an interesting balance.of design philosophies.
Breathe of the Wild and Tears are the 2 highest selling games in the franchise, clearly its working out for them. Why would they go back to a format that sold less?
Frankly I'm happy to see another one in this style. I personally dislike the open world zeldas. Not my cup of tea... dislike the gimmicks with the slaye and build stuff in tears bs. Sure, this one has a gimmick, but it feels better in this space than the open world. Though, could just be me. 😅
I'm having a blast. It looks kinda childish in aesthetics department but the mechanics, creativity and gameplay is all top notch for all ages. Highly recommended and if you're a Zelda fan...well it's another 'after you buy' kinda situation. Also,new mic Falcon? Who this?😂
Yes. We should have blood and gore and sex scenes. No
Just wait until you have 50 echoes
If you think this game looks childish, try world of final fantasy.. That is probably one of the weirdest final fantasy games lol...
Should’ve called this game The Legend of Link.
That would have been perfect 😂
"Should of"
Shut up npc
It's called "Legend of Zelda" because Zelda is the figure of legend in universe. She is the one one with the sacred powers and a descendant of Hylia. Link is only a tertiary part of that legend.
@@Amins88 Yeah but link does everything! Fighting monsters, time traveling, saving the world
I appreciate your view of Zelda games. A lot of people are very black and white about what type of Zelda games should exist, but you understand that there's room for all styles of Zelda games and there's a reason why so many people like them.
I am so much more interested in smaller and more densely populated worlds. I have a family now and don’t have hours to just roam blindly into vast emptiness
It’s very refreshing and I love the pacing!
I love this style. I played the first 2 hours of Breath of the Wild and I just could not get into it. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not for me. My favorite of the series was SNES A Link to the Past. Then comes Minish Cap, Link's Awakening (switch), and this new one seems good. My mom bought it, so I'll play it after she's done, but it looks great. She's loving it so far.
Little boykid get out the comments
And quit liking your own comments 🤡 pathetic lilboy
I’m through 2 dungeons and it feels like the perfect blend of old and new. Really loving it.
Ah the last game I'll buy for my Nintendo Switch
Really? No interest in Mario & Luigi: Brothership? Bloomtown also just dropped and it looks really great.
@@Caffeinated_WarriorFor me it's not that I have no interest, it's just that i dont really need to get more than a couple new games each yeat
@@insanimator Gotcha! If price is a factor, consider investing in a Steam Deck or any Windows handheld in the future. You can simply download any game you want directly onto the console and play it for free. Of course you can continue purchasing any game you want also. Switch emulation is a thing also but it's far from perfect right now.
Same for me this year. Next year I’ll get DK and Metroid 4. Then it’s on to the Switch’s successor
@@Caffeinated_Warrior price kinda a factor but Im just quite slow in getting through games lol
With the existence of the game and Aounuma's comments elaborating on what design principles he told Grezzo to follow with this game, its clear that he wasn't just advocating for all future titles to follow the Breath of the Wild formula (massive focus on open world and shrines and limited dungeons) and was instead talking about ensuring that players always had some sort of choice they could make in how they approach the world. Something that would still be possible with a traditional zelda overworld and dungeons as long as the mechanics allowed for player expression.
Zelda, she come to town!
Come to save, the Swordsman Link!
Learn grammar effboy
Ganon took him away
Now the children don’t play
But they will when Zelda saves the day
Hallelujah!
@@ramrodbldm9876You know english isnt everyones native language? I want to see you try my language Point perfect gramaticly
@@ramrodbldm9876 it's a song, those are the actual pauses the singer makes. look up Zelda SOAD.
@@ramrodbldm9876 It's literally a song bro, put your baton away.
5:50 lol, it makes sense for Falcon to have trouble riding a horse.
I was like. Steer. You.... Nope. Fell off. 3 times. Like watching my mom play the original Super Mario Brothers. Every time. Jumping into the first pit. Was cracking everyone up. Not her likely. We thought it was amusing.
The original zelda games were 70% action and 30% puzzles. Now it's the opposite. I'll pass on this but hope everyone enjoys it.
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i simply adore that Link has the Hylian Shield. both Hylian Shield and Epona are not used enough in Zelda games and it's so nice to see Link have at least the shield, even if you're not actively playing as him for 99% of the game.
i would love for oldest Zelda games to be remade in this style or similar. i only ever played the 3D games, starting with Ocarina of Time of course back in the day, but would love to play every game if it was remade today.
This game is impressive, it definitely has the vibe of old-school LoZ hybridized with BotW/Tears game play down to the menus
I'm really enjoying this game, I love the new tools and enjoy the return to the puzzle elements with open solutions. My only grievances are 1) the inconsistent frame rate (gives me a headache) and 2) the "quick" echo selection is a single row of all the possible options (idk how they got out of testing with that lol)
I prefer the top down style Zelda game, breathe of the wild and tears of the kingdom were doing way too much for me.
Finally beat the game and seeing how much stuff I missed like binding enemies. Automatons, certain Echoes, etc. The beauty of EoW is how open and free-form the game is, both with combat and puzzle design. You can literally skip the entirety of Jabul Ruins with just a few echoes.
Finally we can play as Link
I'm liking it so far. Starts off slow as you have to build up a collection of echoes, so combat is awkward early on, but, once you have some basic roles covered, you can roam around freely, scaling barriers and collecting echoes through pretty straightforward logic.
Guess what? This is yet another game that does it better than Pokemon.
Why am I saying that?
Well, think about it; you're catching the echos of monsters you defeat, which you can then summon to fight other monsters. Echoes of Wisdom is a better Pokemon game than the last few actual Pokemon games!
Okay, that’s nice
Facts
Last few games ok,old pokemon games slams whole zelda
@@rumanpal5634
You looking to start some sort of fandom fight?
@@TheTattorack no man just giveing oppion
Bought this for my wife last week and she’s been having fun and it looks good. Was carious to hear your review because you like most of the game I like.
Got this game already, yeah I know 3 days late. But I don't care I am hyped to play this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this game really feels like the perfect middle ground between modern zelda, and classic zelda. I really hope the main zelda team takes some notes from this, because while I really loved the newer zelda games, I did kind of miss having a LITTLE bit of structure to things.
These games are superior to the open world versions imo.
Your opinion doesn't matter when the "open world versions" sell more than these
@@ramrodbldm9876it's still their opinion
@@ramrodbldm9876what is wrong with you, also the general audiences be like that
Meth sells better than therapy therefore meth good therapy bad. And your opinion on this doesn't matter at all. Numbers talk, loser.
Unfathomably based. Reject the Skyrim Lite games that everyone loves for some reason
This game looks so cute 😍
The tiny horse is so adorable!
Did Falcon just say that botw and ToTK are 50 hours long? Rookie numbers.
TotK was trash anyway. Tediousness of the Kingdom or Tears of the Boredom would be much better titles
50 hours barely even touches a quarter of the game. The underworld doubles that.
@@Amins88problem is, the underworld is just mostly busy work. It’s such a big map but barely anything on it
@@Arctis326 True. I was overjoyed when I found out they basically doubled the size of the overworld in an alternate "dimension", only soon to find out how much of a slog it was to explore. It looks like one of those things a dev discovered while messing around with world generation, thought it was cool and they put it in the game without much thought.
@@JM-pm1yb I liked it, but to each their own!
Didn’t expect you to fall off the bed stairs with the horse, made me laugh.
Then just says screw it and grabs it with magic.
Who here LOVES Gameranx! ✨❤️
lol I’m just ripping of the bot
Now you just need a hot girl in the profile pic
Keep up the good work.
This is one of the best games I've played this year and most creative Zelda games I have played in a long time - as someone burnt out by the series as a whole. I highly recommend this to any fan!!!
6:45 that's what i wanted to know
I always liked the puzzle aspect of Zelda games so I look forward to trying this game. I also like this style having played links awakening remake four years ago.
Huge spoilers after 7:12 - kind of pissed about it.
Yeah fr bro
Read this just on time thank you!
Sorry for ur experience but thank you for letting us know, doing gods work lol
Yah no kidding :/
Whoa, I love what you did with the font of "Before You Buy" at the beginning. That's super neat!
I miss the old classic format :( I also get really tired of the weapon durability system..
Yep, same. I have a lot of gripes about these new Zelda games. The toxic fans who believe Zelda can do no wrong are starting to make me sour on a series I played before many of these "gamers" parents reached puberty.
@@roberthunter479 don’t get me wrong I like
The new ones buuut I just don’t know what the weapon durability adds..
@@last_gasp2152Makes you use a variety of weapons and tactics. Sticking to one weapon would make combat monotonous. Many open world games fill ur inventory with useless stuff you will never use. BOTW and TOTK give everything viability.
??? There's no weapon durability in Echoes of Wisdom. You people really like complaining without even touching things huh.
@@ShanePZC I've touched it. The legitimate criticism made against durability was towards the other 2 games, not EoW. Read the comment again and I think you'll see.
The best game for after work or just a long day. Its chill, no stress, creative and fun. It isnt like all the other LoZ games but I really appreciate that. This game is exactly what I needed at this point in my life.
How can you not call this "The Missing Link"?! Major missed opportunity right there. CEO's suck😢
CEO's don't name video games you dingus.
Just as bad as them calling it Switch 2 instead of Super Nintendo Switch.
The usual "eViL cEOs" from the typical loser who never achieved anything.
@@strifexiii9557 Bruhh, you're like 12, chill out with the name calling😂
They have last say, therefore, it's their fault
@@Phatxualstfu you are restarted
My biggest criticism is when you get a lot of echoes. It can be quite a chore trying to find the specific echo you wanna make I wish they had more ways of sorting them maybe even a favorite option.
We got to play as zelda before GTA 6
Yeah...decades ago because the CDI games exist
@@JoshuaJacobs83really? The CDI games?
@diegosotomiranda4107 Wand of Gamelon. Long story short, it was a poorly made game with animation done by a Russian studio I think. Nintendo was so disgusted they didn't really ever /never allowed anyone to touch their IP until Ubisoft with the Rabbids crossover
@@JoshuaJacobs83 Yeah the all of 10 people who bought that system...
@@JoshuaJacobs83 you seem so cool bro
Im playing it right now and I think its fantastic. Zelda as a conjurer, super charming world, amazing sound and music, great control. Instant classic. You can FIGHT LINK?! The tables have turned
Is the game still good with limited combat? Thats my biggest concern since you're not really fighting as you're mostly summoning
sounds fun, but more a puzzle approach than action
Well... since the game dropped they have always shown off that, excluding sword form, you're more like the backline or commander in an RTS than on the front lines slashing and smashing, yeah know?
I wouldn't so much say limited combat just coz you don't have a sword most of the time. There's still a ton of combat and fighting. The way I would describe the fighting is when you would need to fight with items rather than just hack and slash
Just finished the game over here. No, I did not 100% the game (plenty of time to do that later). I did go for an "organic" playthrough - I was looking to see how well the MSQ and side quests managed to flow together. It was surprisingly smooth. The game was a fantastic blend of puzzles and action - and if you're clever - you can abuse some seriously OP echo combos. I love LttP, ALBW, LA, and all the top-down games in the franchise. Also, funny you should mention Zelda II - I cheered when I saw you can get the Moa as an echo. I am a long-time biased fan; but I can wholly recommend this game to all Zelda franchise enjoyers. It is a wonderful little story and exceptionally fun. And a tip for those getting stuck at some puzzles: ignore your echoes, can you solve it with bind? Remember, everyone - Good luck and have fun!
5:00 So True
I love BoTW & ToTK, however my heart will always lie with the old school top down adventures.
Im thrilled that they keep getting better
You’re monsters can’t actually hurt you in this game but if you put down a piece of meat they will go for it also. Bombs that you conjure do no damge
I've killed quite a few enemies with the bomb fish echo
MAN, these top down Zelda games are so good and innovative. A Link Between Worlds felt so different and this one feels so different. It’s really incredible what the design team for Zelda does.
Never been here early, what’s up Falcon
Idea for a video: 10 Games That Change Completely Depending On Playstyle, it could be about games that feel like they play like completely different genres based on your playstyle, or choices you can make that entirely change their outcome in meaningful ways
BOTW and TOTK were never my cup of tea. To me this is the true Zelda games comes back!
I like both and I'm glad that they decided to bring back this style of games. The zelda franchise is really so goated, I'm glad I'm a fan
"The true zelda games comes back"
I'll tell you what else isn't your cup of tea "grammar"
Sorry bud, this is more botw than 2d zelda lol
Did you have a stroke trying to finish that sentence?
Ummm... no?
BotW can really be considered a "remaster" of Zelda 1 (sort of). Echoes follow BotW scheme but with graphics change...
Been playing Zelda 20 years but the game uses both old and modern gameplay, even though we are playing as Zelda, it doesn’t make it less than other Zelda games in fact it made me love the franchise all over again just like when I first play Link to the past.
They didn't fix the framerate problem from Link's Awakening you gotta be joking...
It’s not that simple.
It’s worse
@@tanzolo4487well it’s gotten worse. And sure it’s simple. Design the game graphically and mechanically to be able to run smoothly on your hardware. Don’t make a game that the only console it will be on can’t run it. If other studios can make games that run good on multiple consoles and pc gpus I think a giant company like Nintendo can figure it out for one console. Maybe lock the game at 30fps instead of trying to hit 60fps. Etc there’s plenty of options. No excuse for this massive company to put out games that can’t run for shit
Sounds like a rare problem because I don’t remember having framerate problems
@@deang.5636 Yeah yeah whatever buddy
I’m probably 90% done and my biggest problem is that the constant dialogue, especially from Tri, takes so so long. Every event I get to could be swiftly read through in seconds but takes minutes. Just opening a rift entrance feels like my brain is melting
Summoned monsters don't hurt Zelda. What are you talking about
The monster itself does not, but its effects do. Early on you get a Burning Ball type monster. You can freely pick it up and throw it around and what not. But anything it catches on fire will damage you as well. This can happen with other effects too if the monsters trigger environmental traps.
@@orbitaldragon I get what you're saying, but that would be a skill issue. You wouldn't light a cigarrette near a leaking gas tank.
From the way he said it, it seemed like the monster's attacks could hit Zelda in any context.
10:12, I was surprised Nintendo called this "Darknut".
I got negged hard on Reddit for complaining about performance. It truly is disappointing.
"Don't blame a clown for acting like a clown. Blame yourself for going to the circus."
It's not as bad as I thought it was going to be, but it sure does break the immersion when the frames dip.
@@Catbrizzle yeah I wish it would swim between like 60 and 40 rather than going from a smooth 60 immediately to 30 and back and forth.
There’s no in between it’s either 60 or 30 and when it switches… and it does often, it hurts my experience. I may wait until new hardware
True performance is kind of ok, but I feel it'll age well with the switch 2
Your mistake was going on reddit at all. That site is infested with fanboys of the games they made a subreddit for, so any complaining will be taken as an insult to these... people? And slam you and act like as if you killed their loved ones. Avoid that pile of garbage at all cost.
i'm super happy for anyone who plays this game and likes it. I'm still waiting for something Ocarina/windwaker/twilight
Performance is very bad. The game suffers from FPS drops, especially in open areas. It killed the enjoyment for me.
Yeah I'm shocked that Falcon made it seem like the frame dips were minor and easy to ignore. We aren't talking about seldomly going from 60 to the low 50s, its having the frame rate cut nearly in half.
Digital Foundry did a great video on this and showed how jarring the performance is in certain areas. Having constant frame drops at this level takes away from the game's enjoyment.
I kinda wish Gameranx started out the video talking about this and showed examples instead of putting it towards the end of the video where not everyone will make it that far.
Cool, I'll pass on this one.
Shocked to hear this from a Nintendo RND game.
@@DribinHe said the frame rate swings a lot, swinging “wildly” on the open world and when there’s a lot of enemies and effects, slowing down to “an annoying degree”. He literally says it’s a problem that cannot be ignored.
Doesn’t seem minor.
I don't understand why you say this is the first Legend of Zelda game where you control Zelda. The series is called Legend of Zelda; we've always controlled Zelda. Maybe what you meant to say is that it's the first game where you control the princess. Thanks for the review, maybe I'll buy it.
The only game, in the series, you could control Zelda.... was Hyrule Warriors. We've always controlled Link, outside of that game. Link is the guy.... Zelda is the princess.
@@danielleheidenreich6878obvious joke man
@@danielleheidenreich6878least mentally challenged TH-cam reply:
The problem is that decisions are being made by accountants and lawyers. Two demographics that are probably immune to nostalgia.
Damn, I surely missed the feeling of needing a shameful amount of time to solve a puzzle that was designed to be also solved by six year old kids because I was thinking way too complicated and began to questioning myself on how I even made it through elementary school but then felt really accomplished when I finally solved it.
Classic Zelda.
I love it.
That one puzzle in that one dungeon. Pretty sure the game design was hinting me in the direction on how to solve that puzzle. But instead I just started to rage spawn echoes for half an hour until I finally solved it by accident.
It worked. I don't know how. But it worked.
I'll be paying Space Marine 2, Astro bot, maybe some Planet Zoo(PS5). I also just prepurchased myself some Legacy of Kain 😊
Have fun!
10 hours space marine for 70 is poop to me i only want single player. Im waiting for the holiday sale but astro bot was amazing . Pure joy.... except some of those challenge levels 😂
@@piecakeum thanks, buddy! You too!
@@KSSBG Here in the US it's $60 and if you add the co-op missions, which can all be played solo, the single player content is closer to 12-15 hours depending on your difficulty setting. The co-op missions are all connected to the story and have unique bosses, classes, and mission objectives not available in the main campaign so they are a must play to see everything the game has to offer. Considering the co-op and pvp content has so much replayability and things to unlock the game is definitely worth $60.
@@Dribin its 70 here
I love this game so much already. Links awakening and a link between worlds were kind of vying for a top 3 spot for Zelda games but this one might take their spot along with botw and minish cap
If there's one glaring problem with LoZ Echoes of Wisdom, is the echoes inventory. No matter how I sorted it I'm constantly scrolling through them and it just gets longer with every new echo 😢
Unless I'm doing something wrong 😅
This actually gives me hope that we'll see an Oracle of Ages & Seasons remake.
This is better than Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild. Don't @ me
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I am not a fan of this game and I still agree with you.
im not much of a fan of the LoZ series but this one looks really really interesting. the echoes system seems really creative and opens up so much possibility space for interesting puzzles.
I have always been a fan of the Zelda series but I’m just kinda not interested at all here or with tears of the kingdom… it’s like taking the lightsabers out of Star Wars, immediately disinterested
What did they take out?
@@orbitaldragon uh 🙄 Link! Lol
@@godxxofxxwar22 He's in the game all over the place. You literally start the game as him.
Not to mention you have sword fighter mode which is just Link Mode.
You're trippin.
@@godxxofxxwar22😂
@@godxxofxxwar22there are legit 20 other zelda games that let you play as link....
I slept on A Link Between Worlds, but I loved it when I finaly played it. It was trully fantastic game. This one going to be awesome too.
Mow the grass simulator
That exists. It's on Steam, XBox, Switch, PS4 and PS5. Now I don't like to cut my grass in real life, WHY would I want to play a game simulating something I CAN do and also HATE doing.... in REAL life!
I’m so glad you do these
Nothing says “strong independent women” like taking away basic combat the series has always been known for…
And that is why I always watch for Falcon's opinions, that is cool going to buy
I wish tears of the Kingdom had a better story. It's sad that this game has a way more intriguing story. 🤔
I don't know how to exactly describe it properly but I consider Breath of the Wild to be the same thing as a single kingdom from Mario Odyssey but blown up to a giant map. Finding a shrine is the equivalent of finding a moon and then if you have to go into a tunnel and play a special area to get the moon That's the same as playing a shrine in order to get the reward from the shrine rather than it just giving it to you for finding it.
The characters obviously have completely different movesets in each of the games but That's the main difference honestly.
Sometimes when I play a video game I just want to play like the core gameplay of the game and I don't care about all the other fluff so I'll end up just playing the mode that gives you just the core gameplay. Well when I finally got bored of The main game which is Breath of the Wild then I went and played Mario Odyssey.
I hope I did at least somewhat of a good job of describing and so that's why having Zelda games like Link's Awakening are good. Less story and more gameplay though the story in Link's Awakening is pretty good.
I love that game, but HATE WITH ALL MY SOUL the blur
This is one game that totally surprised me in every positive way. Love it!
So,she can't attack? Not buying this!
No one is for you you
I really like it so far, the framerate as you mentioned tho was very noticeable as soon as I hit Castle town, apart from that it's run pretty consistently
Nintendo's biggest problem is lack of challenge modes/performance evaluation features/achievements. This also looks like a menu fest. Will still probably play through but Nintendo has gone to baby level difficulty lately in too extreme a direction (metroid being the one exception).
This game has a hard mode. Also Nintendo just understands it’s about the journey and having fun
@@tanzolo4487 It is their responsibility to design something that goes further than one or two playthroughs. Not gonna knock someone for wanting their games to be nice and breezy but they used to develop games with infinite appeal. Now it's all about taking the casual gamer on a one time joyride. An arcade mode or something would add real depth and repayability and the core mechanics of this game seem suitable for such a thing.
@thommccarthy1139 should be happy the game let's u have fun for 1 playthrough, most games these days u can't even have fun for an hour without feeling like shit for playing it.
Me faithfully watching my Gameranx Legend of Zelda Before you Buy in the background as I play Echoes of Wisdom
Pity im not touching Nintendo games because of the Palworld lawsuit, scum company. They are, and always have been bad for gaming.
Have fun with that!
All these big companies are scummy anyway. Profit is the overall goal.
@@JM-pm1ybExcept in this case Nintendo is trying to trademark both the RPG and monster battler formats. Looking at the patents (filed after Palworld and many other games came out) its clear it targets not only Palworld but any RPG not made by Nintendo.
@@chdreturns Even as someone who wants Nintendo to lose...that's nonsense. You can't trademark entire genres you'd get laughed out of court. Patents protect concrete inventions and processes only, genres fall into overall frameworks which are not covered by patent law.
It's probably over the capture mechanic given other "Pokemon clones" like TemTem and Nexomon use things like cards and traps instead of balls.
@@carebox5932 Might wanna add Sony and Microsoft to the list while you're at it. All of them are scummy.
Fuck Palworld.
Wasn’t excited for this at all until this Before you Buy. Now I will be buying it