HACKED!: Powerbank gets a Fast Charge Feature
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In this episode of HACKED! I will show you how I modified a common powerbank in order to cut down its ridiculously long charging time. Along the way I will talk about the powerbank circuit and why the battery pack of my powerbank is a bit special.
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Thought you would put a fast charge circuit IC into the powerbank to charge it with fast charge usb chargers
Me either:)
NE555 clickbait of coz
Clickbait, besides only Qualcomm knows how their circuit works. No one should be messing with Quick charge 3.0, otherwise it would be easy to fry your cell phone.
Nathan Ramanathan not really...
Nathan Ramanathan I know that the USB consortium has their own official fast charge standard unlike Qualcomm's proprietary one. So, he could've just used that standard.
I recently replaced the cells in my power drill battery. Man I love tinkering with electronics :D
LMFAO "since nobody got time for that" 1:20
Necromeming. Reviving a dead meme
Well who the heck want to wait 9 hours?!
Bob dabiuld It's an older meme sir.....but it checks out.
guh huh! he did a thing and i know the thing so i gotta say i knew the thing so everyone that knows the thing can all know the thing together!
Reminds me of those seagulls in finding nemo. MEME meME MeME MEME Meme MEME.
If you have a hobby charger, this can also be accomplished by leaving everything attached and adding a JST-XH 3 pin port and XT60 connector. I trust my iCharger 1010b+ over almost any protection board sold so that is unnecessary for my setup.
It would also have been awesome to use a fast charge spoof plug and a buck converter with cc/cv and a balancing BMS to fast charge it via USB.
I hate when manufacturers list false capacities by adding up the capacity of all batteries. 72.36 watt hours, each cell is rated at a nominal voltage of 3.7 and the pack is in a 2s3p config. that means that 72.36/ 7.2 volts (voltage of the pack) equals 10.05 Amps or 10,050 mAh @ 7.2 volts instead of listing it as 20,100 @ 3.7 to make the capacity appear larger for those who don't know. 10,050 / 3 means that each cell has a capacity of 3,350 @ 3.7 volts. Those are usually rated at 3,400 though so I wonder what's going on. Watt hours is it only way to calculate the honest amount of energy in the battery pack.
But what if the icharger protection fails then what will you do
well if youre that unlucky, just say fuck it and move on@@ThatVoxelBlock
Love all of your videos, they're so clearly spoken and interesting to watch :)
You could just use an XT30 and JST-XH balance connectors and connect those in parallel with the battery pack and use a hobby charger with balance function and forget all of those complicated wiring and switch and BMS and at the end, it'll be simpler and cheaper and easier.
Labs somebody suggest using an xt60 but I was thinking xt30 + balance charging was the better option due to its size and simpler.
The high capacity 18650's usually don't like going over about 3A. So use almost any convenient connector. I'd avoid XT60 on things that can't push more than a few Amps because it's just asking for someone to borrow it to test a quadcopter or similar... and it'll end in tears.
But would the charger not destroy the curcuit without a switch?
Can we use a screw terminal instead
Great video Gerry! Thanks for your time my man
Love the “inappropriate li-ion charger” at 6:24 😅
yeah, can you go see a doctor please
Everyone has a art to do something new, but not everyone has art to explain it to this clear level❤🙂, keep it up🔥👍
Great video. I own that same Anker Powerbank and charge times are really frustrating.
One possible improvement - Redesign the enclosure with counter-sunk screw holes, or use cap-head screws.
About 20 minutes before you released this video I searched exactly this feature! :D
Waiting for 9 hours. Talk about dedication.
Very neat, I’ve acquired quite a few power banks like that one. Great video.
After hacking Li+ battery packs before I appreciate having commercially made safety features! This is a fix to the biggest problem with large older powerbanks. I'm glad most new ones come with power delivery to charge in more reasonable time.
I am actually a great fan of you. Your videos are just awesome. I enjoy your videos like music 😍.
I currently use 6x18650 power bank with removable cells. If I need a fast charge, I can replace the cells with charged ones, or clip leads to the battery terminals and use iMax B6 to charge the cells in parallel.
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Awesome project 👍
This is awesome Scott. Thank you.
I was thinking about making a new power bank . NOW I get a new idea from this video now i am make a power bank by this idea . Tnx for uploading this video
You put a lot more effort in writing a 1 than anyone I've ever met.
That is awesome - thanks for the video, very clever idea!
Nice! I would simply add a balance connector to use with a lipo/lion charger
MrSmoothvideos , I think so . If he break the case to re-solder battery pack. Why he don’t add balance wire instead of waste battery capacity.
Great Scott stay creative I'll see you next time
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I think it’d be really interesting to see how well the power banks built in charging circuit handles a large imbalance between the cells. Does it balance by discharging the higher set of cells or does it just discontinue charging the higher set of cells?
Cool hack. Makes me glad I bought one with quickcharge built in.
I like it. i get a good knowledge about the power bank. tnx we need more
Very cool! I was looking at doing the very same thing recently with my anker charger. Mine is about the same size. You’ve given me enough help to try myself now :)
Glad you liked it. Just be careful with the disassembly of the old enclosure. That can be a bit tricky.
noticed him breathing ............ Now I can't get it out of my mind
LMFAO why did you mention it ffs
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Oh God why did you mention it !
I love the Sweet Brown reference "Ain't nobody got time for that"
I like you, especially while you explain principle and theory of working
nice video, but why haven't you used a 2S BMS circuit board instead of the protection board?
lovely videos with verry minimalist add and without click baits and shiet ! congrats scott :)
I WILL HAVE THAT IN MY MIND , THX FOR ADVICE... be carefull tho !! MOST OF THEM HAVE SAND INSIDE !!!!!! better check for that too
Scott. Great video. I had an idea for a video. How about giving life to old power tools by replacing tired Ni-Cd batteries with 18650 lithium cells? How to work out replacement, how to protect them in use and when charging and how to charge them.
There are few Boards available on AliExpress that let's you charge your power bank through micro USB using Qualcoms Fast charge technology. Those boards also have a fast charge output. Great video as always :D
I like it!
Thanks Scott!
Would have thought you put in an actual Qualcomm Quick Charge circuit. Anyone here had luck with DIY QuickCharge Solutions?
You can buy USB Pd boards on AliExpress which do basically the same thing.
Very handy video, I am currently building a couple of power banks as well as two variable bench power supplies, I am building in CC & CV into both but I have one of those battery charging stations that you showed on order, just waiting for delivery.
lol.
I love your humor in these. ☺
And that you upload the projects that were not very successful sometimes. It’s much more realistic for us all than everything working perfectly every time due to video editing!
I love the way you say hot glue.
Man, great video! I want to learn like you!!!!! Teach me teach me. Best wishes for you!
Great idea that sparked my own powerbank which can output 400W constant and surge up to 1200W, Even running a spot welder from it!! I charge it at a regular 100W @16.8V and max of 300W @16.8V. using 8x 18650-3000mah Howell battery cells. You could potentially build a small circuit with fitting mosfet array and Mcu to manage it by itself. Great job!!
Nice.
Greetings from Brazil.
I love your autro. "Stay Creative, and i will see you next time!" magestic. FYI, could I do the same with some old PC batteries?
Or buy 4 x 5000mAh banks so you can charge “in parallel” 😂
My expectation: Wow, now I can use USB Quick Charge adapter with a power bank too!
The reality: Just add XT60 and some protection into the module. And use the proprietary charger to make a "Fast Charge"...
WTFFFFFFFFF!!!!
Technically it works tho 😂😂😂
- Yeah, I agree that it "technically" work.
- Nah, I don't think the old enclosure can take it apart easily w/o destructive process. And, if it somehow can, how you put the wire (must not too small gauge due to current needed.) and the circuit into the enclosure which very crams by the existing circuit(s)?
I like how +GreatScott! make a new one. Just disappointing how he did with the electronic part.
I think this way is better. Instead of some weird proprietary standard, it uses a common method of quickly charging.
Yeah, if you already have a Li-ion charger.
But, TBH, it's less convenient to use than QC charger. :(
Alternatively, just get on Digikey and look for a good integrated charge controller w/ lithium battery protection. I know there is an ultra simple version used on the DD06CVSA modules on AliEx, but the IC is unmarked. I'm tempted to try an acid bath decap to look for a part number on the silicone die but I'm not that motivated yet.
I know some of the newer PIC microcontrollers have integrated switching converters. That's probably an option. Just make your own PCB with a board house like JLC or etch it yourself. ...or do what most everyone does and buy some outdated junk designed module to paste something together.
Nice video!
I like your projects with 18650 Li-ion cells
I realised that on the housing you used a Pozdriv (PZ) bit on Phillips (PH) screws which I did not expect from you :D
Great video!
BTW, what program do you use to desing 3d models for the 3d printer?
I had an EXCELLENT power bank that used batteries connected at 12V which then were stepped down to 5V. It allowed charging the bank at ~12V 1A while charging multiple devices and still fast enough to charge the pack. Pretty neat in my opinion! I wonder why most packs input charge at only 5V 😧
your "i will see you next time" sounds like how Matt from Demolition Ranch does it at the end
Awesome sir...thats brilliant
Excellent video
Using the hobby charger you could add a JST-XH connector and skip the two-stage charging process by having the hobby charger do the balancing all the way to full.
Stabbed the cells getting the case open!
Nice video!
Thank you.. this is great thought..
Perfekt wie immer !!!!
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I have that same power bank it’s really good
I have the same power bank the charging is slow but i was wondering if it could be hacked so that it could be charged via USB c rather than the micro b.
I have the discontinued model that had built-in Qualcomm quick charge 3, it went on sale a while back, I think it's got a slightly lower max capacity, but built in quick charge
nice, you could also use a balance lead so it can be charged with the lipo chager!
awesome bro that is what I was looking for . my power bank charges up in like 3 to 4 hours this method is better thanks.
This channel is the best 😎
Ya he recibido mi camiseta!! Un abrazo 🤗
How can i make my power bank output a constant 5 Volts 2 Amps ? I would like to use it to power a RC Car which requires 4.8v or higher constant output .
for the record anker has a version of this pack with dual micro usb inputs for twice the charging rate. I have one and it works very well.
I always find it very interesting see different people do electronic hacks. Wish I could do but don't have the expertise or the equipment so I'm forced to go buy a new battery Bank. Enjoy watching the video and see how things are put together even if I don't fully understand.
Got recommended this video on the same day i received that power bank as a gift lol
I did one up similar to this a couple years ago. I took a typical 4x 18650 cell holder, connected them all in parallel, attached on the USB power PCB I ripped from another bank, then on the opposing end I put one of those XT60 connectors. It's hot all the time, but same principals, it can charge from my lab bench, or I can use another 4x 18650 cell holder, also connected in parallel, to plug into that XT60 to increase the capacity of the bank.
She's not pretty, but she works real well :)
great video!! btw how long did it take to charge after the hack?
Dude can you be voice to an assistant im making one love your voice
I re celled a dell battery. got new cells and when I connected it to the battery pcb. It refused to output power. Tried jumpstarting the BMS no go. Checked the pcb for any shorts. No go. Can you input anything. Thanks
the ending is soo cool :))
love u bro
verry verry important video in mi ..
bcoz im also working on power bank in this time
Superb....But would it damage batteries?
Fantastic work, man! Really nice! 😀 And there are balanced BMSs, did you already see? 😀
I don’t know if you notice but lithium battery’s expand after time so you might want to make the enclosure abit bigger
I would really like to see a diy on high powered brushed motor drivers using n channel mosfet and mosfet drivers using Arduino
Could you show how to cut down the charging time from being hours to minutes when it comes to recharging huge battery packs that you assembled on your own and the different approaches of one?
Loved the expertise opinion ;)
Nice 3D printer bro. Hello From Cuba!!!!
Im interest to see if the original board still balances when charging from external source. I see where he switched it over at the end but over multiple uses will it be enough to maintain the balance.
" so since nobody got time for that " lmao, youre hilarious.
I love this one.
Ain't nobody got time for that! Lol.
wow 4A pwbank module amazing!
I must be need it ;)
(on raspberry pi3 model b+)
Awsome dear scott!
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Mr Engineer are u indian
Acha to ap Ideas yahan sy churaty hain....... :P Hehehehe
Mr Engineer u
if you use a rc style lithium charger you could always add a balance port to the battery pack and use the charger's balance function.
Great hack but can you suggest an ic or a board which can balance 2s batteries and can handle more than 2A?? Thanks in advance!
Awesome video bro.
Why not add a balance port? You could handle all the job with the balance charger.
My thought too. Only one charger needed, and faster charging until the end. No switch required.
Probably _"because I'm such a genius!"_
Labs
More likely lowering to the common viewer. If you already own a multi-cell LiPo charger, you probably already know how you can wire up the pack to use it.
Yeah right, because everyone own a lab bench power supply...
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That intro got me rolling lol
Hi, dear Scott.
Thanks for videos.
Are you left-handed?
What is the white colored glue which you applied with screw driver? Is it the same stuff which was originally applied inside battery pack. Please let me know its name and features. thanks
Can you use bjt for limited current charging, by simply limiting collector current and apply battery to v+ and collector pin. Then voltage across battery terminal increases gradually
Can you recommend the same type of board you show in your video but with the added benefit of the balance feature?
You could have put in arduino which checks how charged it is and when it hit certain value, it could switch polarities on relay. Common pin of relay can be put on batteries side. Other two contacts should be connected: 1 to fast charger, and 2 to standard charger
Nice video! I fried my board thinking I could trickle charge my car battery. NOT! , insta fry. Can I order a single board from that Co. shown in the video? I had a USB plugged in to the smart output and the + & - to my car battery. Instant smoke. Do you think it effected the battery’s ? Thanks if you could reply.
Hello Scott just asking a random question do you use lead-free solder or leaded solder. Just asking, thanks.
Cool video, keep it up!
2 years later phones have a 7000mAh battery and 125w chargers.
It's been 3 years 🙂
and it happened 😂@@guidezz758