My wife and I got on a white tail buck on state land in Montana once but the buck just stood there and didnt even flinch for at least 5 minutes while we waited for it to step out from behind the brush. I began to wonder if it was a decoy and also why in the world the game Dept would plant a legal decoy on legal ground during legal season and legal shooting hours. I decided to shout "Nice Decoy" and the buck turned and ran for his life 😂
As a former guide from Trout Creek, Mt. I can say that at times the wardens and law enforcement turned a blind eye. So many of those families hunted simply to make it through the winter. At times like that compassion and understanding trump the deer population. Sorry... A man must feed his children
You know honestly to watch this video and to see these wardens set up these entrapments make me sick ! This is one of the reasons I quit hunting plus the cost of licenses Tags all the rules and regs cost to travel Man buy a 4H beef and put these money hungry video making government turds out of business 👍and god bless WE THE PEOPLE 🇺🇸
I was referring to the locals that can work only during the logging season. Winter is long lean for a family with 6 kids. But yes I do agree. its the out of state hunters that fund most of the conservation costs@@stevehardwick7285
I can attest to the steltheness of Wardens. Once i was wade fishing almost 2 miles from any road and 2 Wardens slide up behind me in a canoe and scared the living BaJeseus out of me. I was legal as always, but them boys got me gooood. 😂
I had a PA Waterways Conservation Officer, sneak up on me in a ghilli suit once, miles from the roadway. LOL, thankfully, I'm licensed angler, and a volunteer whom he recognized.
I really like when they highlight the people doing things legally and properly aswell as the criminals. Gives people who are new or thinking about getting into the sport the right ideas.
248 lol 243 is one of the most popular youth hunter rifles. The fact the warden doesnt know his calibers, especially one of the most popular of all time, makes me worried.
That's almost as bad as when I went to buy a 243 for a new hunter a few months ago and this particular store didn't have any and the gun salesman said it wasn't a very popular caliber. Left there scratching my head and went to another store that had several in stock.
Call me a poacher or whatever you want but the kid that shot from the fence I honestly wouldn’t have an issue with, hear me out, he wasn’t shooting ACROSS a traveled roadway he got out went to the fence and used the post to take a steady shot. The argument that if he would have been on the other side of the fence is absurd, being 16” on the other side makes it ok give me a break. I’m sure there is a rule on the distance they have to be from a roadway but in this case him saying he needed to be on the other side is asinine. Then to argue “well it’s unfair for the animal because they were hunting from a vehicle.” They were traveling in their vehicle, more than likely been hunting all day without success, then seen a very nice size legal buck and took a shot. You hear everyone say when they score a big one “ ya I was lucky just happened to be in the right place at the right time” in my opinion I don’t see how that situation was any different, they happened to be in the right place at the right time. Now I’m sure I’ll get called out “i can only imagine how many animals you’ve poached” and my response is I haven’t even taken game in the past 2 years I’ve been hunting because I have been wanting my wife to get something nice and legal. So before I get bashed for this I’m just expressing my opinion, I would say nail them to the cross if they were shooting out the window or at night with a light but that’s not what happened.
How many animals have you poached?! Seriously though, I live on Long Island. I've seen south american "immigrants" fishing our lakes and keep EVERY FISH. Small sunfish, anything. I've seen Asians crabbing and keep EVERY CRAB. TINY blueclaws, male, female, didn't matter to them. It's crazy how some people will fish. Real criminal poachers are disgustingly brazen. That BEAST of a 15 year old (what a big boy!) steadied his shot on a post... Honestly in practice it was more responsible than a 250lb young man trying to hop barbed wire and shoot free standing. The warden essentially instructing him to hop the fence next time was a wild suggestion imo. As far as I'm concerned if you have tags for the beast and it's on land legal to hunt... the game should be fair game. Arbitrary rules followed by a court date and a lecture are patronizing. The 15 year old will now fear retribution from game wardens, but not respect them.
@Cree_Money man I live in jersey and the wardens here are kinda soft. I always see the Portuguese up by flat brook taking way more then 2 pheasants. They stuff their trunks till the end if the day.
As a sportsman from Utah, I really appreciate enforcement on poaching. I've seen lots of poaching of Elk, Deer - even closely managed Wood Ducks. Big thanks!
The case where the kid shot from the fence, I believe that warden was splitting hairs. The kid left the vehicle and got off of the road before the shot.
@@BetweentheCheeks00the right of way includes land on either side of the road ( for drainage etc). Basically stops at the fence. He was on the wrong side of the fence. Doesn't matter where the muzzle is. It is where the person is.
@brianhillis3701 the right of way is a minimum number of feet determined by the state for local roadways, highways, etc. Not fence line to fence line. For example, if the minimum right of way for local roadway was 60 ft and he was off the edge of the travel way by 20 ft, then he is out of the right way, fence or no fence.
It would be interesting to be in a hunters safety course in Montana and see how detailed they are about when a berm/shoulder ends. So are they saying if he had been just to the other side of that fence he would have been legal?
Montana regulations include all of the right of way of the road. So fence to fence. It’s harsh but the legislative intent was to discourage road hunting in all forms.
Dude he was one step off of the road lol. I'd say common sense suggests the shoulder is at least a car width? Over the fence would be the obvious thing in his particular situation.
@@jacksonlawrence6929 you are not a hunter if you shoot a deer on the shoulder. stop crying and be a real man. its all you folk that kill for excess that get mad about sensical laws. that is not hunting and you are just roleplaying dressing up in camo with ur dads rifle to shoot off the shoulder of the road. go into the woods and legally track game like a normal hunter.
Ive never seen this show before but kinda hooked. Ezra honestly seems like a super cool guy and doesnt like doing this but good on him for doing whats right.
Montana appears to have passed a law prohibiting the shooting at or of "simulated wildlife" while hunting, just so this entrapment can yield multiple fines.
So funny how these guys calmly deal with people who have loaded weapons while non wildlife law enforcement pisses their pants over people who more often than not don’t even have a weapon but just might have one.
They do this in Colorado all the time. In fact 2 guys that I use to work with got in big trouble, shooting a mechanical buck, using their truck as a rifle rest, shooting across a county road. Coincidentally they were brothers from Montana. LOL. They caught hell at the factory where we worked. We laughed at them for years.
In Colorado the CPW is all about the money these days. The dimocrat government in Denver needs more money to give away to illegals that have decided to invade apartment buildings and take over. Of course Polis says it isn't happening. I used to have respect for the Division of Wildlife but since it has become CPW, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, it just another abusive police organization.
When I was a kid hunting with my dad for one of the first times we had to travel through an easement to hunt my grandmas land (which we also had permission to hunt) and there was what looked to be a giant buck with does. Me being the over excited kid that I was I wanted to shoot it. But my dad noticed something funny about the deer not pinging us like the rest. Long story short the game wardens where waiting 😂
Real fair considering most state land is full of cows because ranchers wait till hunting season to move them onto their leased state land so no matter what you always have to cross a fence
All the people getting mad about “entrapment” isn’t a Hunter or they’re a poacher. If you were a Hunter you wouldn’t be mad about them trying to catch poachers because poachers are the ones that are gonna ruin hunting for everyone.
yep, when i took my hunting class here in canada the instructor told us about how canada geese were almost wiped out in north america by 1900 because it was unregulated. now theres so many geese we call them the canadian air force.
As a outdoorsman poachers make me sick. If you’re doing something illegal you deserve everything taken away. If everyone else has to do it the legal way so should you.
Really? U never even handled a rifle cartridge? Lol the freaking caliber is stanped on the bottom of ever single shell. He literally picks it up and reads it... jeez
@@JobieCatherman-be5sw there's a .284 Winchester and a .243 Winchester and a .244 something, but I haven't heard of a .248 anything. Headstamps do and don't matter. I have 30-06 cases I used for .270, I have .277 sig loaded as .308 Winchester, .308 brass loaded for 7x57, 7.62 for 9x39, etc.
@@Countryboy404 that used to be legal here up until like 2 years ago now you need permission on every bit of land. Before it was you need to post every 100 yards orherwise anybody could go on anyone’s land. But here as long as your foot is off the road you can shoot in the ditch
It’s Montana so it’s even odds that it’s government (taxpayer) land. In my state, on public you need to be 100’ from the centerline of a maintained road to be legal, but in some states it’s legal to hunt from roads just not vehicles.
When you can be imprisoned for hunting/fishing but illegally cross its borders by the millions and given a free phone, credit card and put up in hotels while we have vets homeless on our streets.... 🧐
Well, every year we have new entrepreneurs that want to hire cheap labor, I work with a really nice guy that let me use his cabin for camping, his boat to go fishing, he complains about illegal immigration but doesn’t care that I am living illegally in the us since 2001, i worked with him from 2003 to 2018 now I’m still working for him ( subcontracting ) just with an LLC, insurance and bond, and my ITN number he always complains about illegals I have to remind him that I am here illegally.😢
Game wardens you will meet will be a 50/50 between good and bad. Even though you are 100% legal they like to find things to charge you with. But get a good one and you learn good hunting information
I worked part time in KS for six (6) years for Wildlife and Parks and worked in law enforcement for over 29 years. I have noted that Game Wardens in general are very under trained in Officer Survivability Tactics and that none of the Game Wardens in this video were wearing protective (bullet proof) vests. Hopefully since the filming of this video times have changed for them.
In Wyoming, as long as you cross a ditch, you are no longer on the shoulder and its perfectly legal, provided you have permission to hunt that property
In Colorado when he placed the muzzle of his firearm over the fence he has done nothing illegal as long as he has permission to hunt the private property or it is public land.
@@RJB 6 YARDS OFF ROAD I TIHNK IS PLENTY TO BE OFF SHOULDER I THINK HIM SHOTING ON THE FENCE IS LEGAL BUT WHAT EVER THE WARDEN SAYS IG NO SHOULDER IS MORE THEN 6 YARDS
Ahaha... Memory time... In Alabama, I used to drink coffee with 4 other gents in the mornings once in awhile. One of these gentlmen, I'll call him Ed, was a game warden. This morning, he was excited to show me his new mechanical deer decoy. I was in awe at how real this decoy looked! This day I was working 3 to 11 and as I was driving home, I see a deer under a well lit sign. I stopped, clapped my hands and nothing. So I opened my truck door, pulled the seat up and came out like I had a rifle saying, "Bang, bang, bang!" I hear Ed say, "Dammit, Yank, get the hell out of here!!" lol The next morning, when I stopped for coffee, I saw Ed and he just laughed and told me after I had stopped, four other folks had stopped and actually shot that decoy. Also, I worked with a guy whose teenage son saw a deer down in a small ravine. He swerved off the road, int that small ravine and smashed the decoy AND his dad's truck!! Yeah, he didn't hunt or drive for quite awhile!! lmbo! You cannot make this stuff up!!! lol
In West Virginia, the road is property line to property line with or without a ditch or room for a vehicle, right of ways are measured from the center of the road and on small roads can be up to 30 feet, I work for state roads and we deal with this every day because of mowing and tree removal
Wherever you are, the law banning two way communication for hunting is beyond words i can even express. Why is it wrong to have communication with the person you are hunting with..
Cause Uncle Sam needs that money brooo. Has nothing to do with doing anything wrong other then bc Sam says it’s not okay it’s not okay. They’ll keep searching for ways to take our rights away one by one. Slowly
They claim it's because of "Fair Chase" because apparently your partner calling you to tell you the animals ran away and the hunt is over is giving the hunter an advantage over the animals.
Because it violate the rules of fair chase. You are supposed to go find and kill a legal animal on your own, not get 10 guys with radios who surround the herd and coordinate the entire hunt.
That's a crazy law and even unsafe to ban communication between hunters. For example if two or more people are hunting somewhat near each other and one or both people are leaving the stand other hunters in the area need to know where they are going so they don't accidentally shoot in their direction.
Real Hunters Can Tell From A Fake Decoy To A Real Animal Most Elk Will Walk Or Run Once You Stop Your Vehicle Pretty Logic Unless Your Drunk Or On Drugs
@@dgonzales540finally someone said it….. actually crazy how some people call them selves “hunters” and spend their entire life not going a mile from their truck 😂
It's a nightmare to draw a tag and we all put up with it, patiently and gratefully; jerks that circumvent access to (and destroy) rare resources we all have to share should face more severe punishments.
I get what the wardens are trying to do here but I'd just like to see the real poachers get caught. These are are all regular hunters that mean well. Sure, were all guilty of a little buck fever here and there but this is like the cop that hides and then gets excited about writing a ticket for 10 over to the guy just trying to make to work and back. To me, this is lazy law enforcement trying to hit a quota. Go find the real bad guys
Growing up my neighbor lost his hunting rights for life when he got caught for the third time shooting at a decoy the week before season started. When he made the shot, he just set the rifle on the hood of his truck and put his hands up because he knew what was happening.
They introduce wolves that kill thousands of elk, deer and moose, but they nitpick at some guys that pay thousands of dollars in licenses and tags to be able to maybe get one deer or elk per year.
Wolves were there to begin with, they are also proven to be good for the ecosystem in general. But I agree they are nitpicking a lot of these guys here
@@rylandavis2976 This wolves are an invasive introduced predator, and the deer and elk were doing just fine without them, and we don't need them in the ecosystem. They have decimated the elk, deer and moose where they are introduced.
@@ferratilis they are not an invasive predator, they have been here longer than homo sapiens and we exterminated them. And there is little evidence that they have anything more then a marginal impact on herd populations. In fact when wolves are reintroduced, we see the resiliency of herds increase, and their population numbers stay more stable, not fluctuating wildly year to year. Wolves thin out the weak and sick and create a better breeding gene pool. Predators have lived in balance with elk and deer for literally millions of years, they are not at all invasive in the United States. You need to actually read the scientific literature on this.
@@ferratilis we have actual data on herd sizes from introducing them into 3 states in 1995. From 1995 - 2018 2 of these states had increased in their game animal populations (pretty substantial increases) and in the other state (Idaho) the populations stayed the same. You are absolutely wrong about everything you said.
@patrickhayes7838 Rights to unethically kill game indiscriminately from moving vehicles, roadways, and overharvest? You certainly seem to enjoy your right to be an idiot. People like you are why we need game wardens at all.
I was bass fishing on a busy lake. All types of recreational boating activities going on while we fished. I was getting a very annoyed by the jet skis and kids on tubes buzzing us, but I also realize that they have the right to enjoy this lake as much as I do. Then a ski boat drove right up to us! I was about to yell at them when I noticed their uniforms. Game Wardens! They checked us out, all of which was perfectly legal. I complemented them on their stealth, they chuckled and wished us a good day. That was the only encounter I have ever had with a warden.
Glad to see y'all on YT. My biggest gripe with the state was the slap on the wrist many of these criminals got for poaching and such. Kinda made me thing "Why bother going to the trouble of catching elk or deer poachers if all they get is a slab on the wrist?" Hell, if some of these people were caught in Texas or another state doing this stuff, they'd be behind bars or pay a ton of money in fines and still lose their guns/other equipment including vehicles including their right to hunt/fish in the state for years. In Montana, it just seems the justice system didn't place a very high value on their wildlife.
Texas sucks compared to any rocky mountain state for gun laws and regulations. High fence is poaching in rocky mountain states, but Texas does it all day... Pathetic 😂
@@DrivingWithDon this is tv show not what really happens in real life but what I think could happen is that because they agree to be on tv or something then small fine or just fake
Not funny had dog that when I missed she refused to come back until she found the shots shotshell wad kinda embarrassing and frustrating dogs are part of the hunting equipment and fun 😅
Legal entrapment needs to be expanded. On principle, if you’re supplying the means of a crime for the purpose of creating crime, you are responsible for the crime, assuming it even is a crime.
Because they're trying to hide? Seeing an elk with a bunch of orange blobs in the area defeats the purpose of the mission. Is this really a serious question? The wardens should park their trucks in the woods with the party lights on for safety too.
Looks like this could be entrapment, I wonder if anyone has fought it in court. I'm pretty sure that warden cannot have the one guy calling his buddy to lure him in.
It is. The problem is that your fighting against the millions of dollars worth of tax dollars they have access to. You can fight, but eventually you run out of your own funds.
Entrapment- to lure one into a crime for the purpose of prosecuting them for that crime. Yes this is clear cut entrapment. And also an illegal traffic stop and detainment for the on the first guy in the white suburban.
@@xanthosloftwood2290you dont understand how our wildlife laws work at all whatsoever game wardens have more authority than cops in their respective “jurisdictions” also you have to make them do something they wouldnt normally do so yea it aint entrapment
Engineering-speak here. The road template includes the road, the ditch (both sides) and sometimes to the top of the cutbank on the high side or the toe of the fill on the low side. I carry a shotgun with 4" blackpowder blanks, just because.
@@Ryan-re1rs some regs don't allow the use of electronics to take game. It's a pretty broad berth for interpretation. If you're tag checked and they see radios or search your stuff and find them, what's your defense if they ticket you for using them while hunting? If you bear hunt and take an ecaller for opportunities for fox and coyote, what's your defense if they find an ecaller and you have a bear down? They say they don't allow them 'for hunting', but it's too much gray area for someone with no defense against accusations.
1. I'm not a road hunter and truly believe in fair chase yet also believe that if its legal a hunter can take game how they want. 2. That 15 year old kid was off of the roadway. 3. Years ago an acquaintance of mine and his friend were driving out to their deer camp mid morning and spotted a clear DNR poaching set-up with a Whitetail decoy. The were stopped by the DNR and asked some questions because they slowed down. When they got to the cabin they told the others what had happened. It infuriated one of the camp members who took his shotgun and a ton of buckshot, drove to the site, got out of his vehicle, did everything right but then ran out into the field and just unloaded at the decoy and reloaded and shot more as the DNR were running towards him trying to get him to stop shooting. He is actually deaf so he probably couldn't hear the DNR trying to get him to stop shooting. He destroyed that decoy.😂
The kid makes the honest effort to get off the road, in which he was NOT on the shoulder. Then you write him up anyways. Big man to use his judgement there for that call 🙄
I hunted many times in Montana and very often the Lodge owner would call hunters and tell them if elk were migrating down lower. I never heard of this before, although I know many hunters carry radios for hunting purposes.
If the rancher moved the fence 2 ft further in would it still be the shoulder maybe 100 ft in still the shoulder a private fence is not a public shoulder marker
These game wardens are so brave and noble ,really have to admire how they prey on people and uphold their big egos while they protect and serve themselves , what wpuld we do without the modern police state we live in , also their famous last words they all live by is , we dont make the laws we just enforce them, spoken like the true boot lickers they are
I'm mixed on this one. On the one hand, people poach. On the other hand, the rules are too complicated and obscure and vary wayyy too much state to state.
All for conservation?? Boy, it's gonna take a lot of sauce to serve me that turd sandwich. Game laws and the FWP are the reason why the elk numbers are 1/8 what they used to be in Montana. Look up "shoulder season", and the introduction of Canadian wolves into Montana.
Montana is a joke but it’s alright for private land owners to haze the Elk on there property to keep them from leaving their property so they can outfit during hunting season
Those of us who hunt in Montana all know it happens. I have seen ranch hands stage up in their trucks by their fence line on a migration route and steer the herd as it comes along.
I live in the country on a farm, anyone who can't tell the difference between a real and fake animal is obvious from the city and knows nothing with respect to hunting, animals, or property owners rights. I deal with the city a-holes every hunting season.
9:50 I'm confused, the dude was off of the shoulder? Just because it is a gravel road doesn't mean the weeds next the road is part of the shoulder because there is gravel in it.
This makes me wanna be a game warden! In my area I had huge bucks all summer and leading up to season. Literally 1 day before open bow season, I heard gun shoots during prime hunting hours in the morning and evening.... I even told my 17yr old son who helped til and plot and feed all year, I heard shots and it was probably our bucks and we'll see if they show up on trail cam.... Never seen em again... still to this day not even a doe 😢 I know someone illegally shot em! That was sept 30th and rifle season just opened 2 days ago for us. 😒
At the same time, a lot of bucks have their summer rounds and move out early fall to make their territories. See it every year on a couple properties that hold multiple bucks throughout summer. All but 1 if not all (due to a bigger buck or more moving in) leave in the first half of Sept and don't come back until the end of winter. At least around here bucks tend to stick together and disperse before things start hitting the fan
Its insane to me that the 15 year old kid was literally 5 feet from being legal. All he had to do was cross a fence. Crazy. I then the second dude they stop for the elk decoy they are saying 2 way communication is illegal when hes calling a buddy to MAKE SURE ITS A LEGAL ELK. Just insane. I get trying to catch poachers but I swear man you cant fart in the woods anymore without getting some sort of ticket. Especially since hunters like me are just trying to eat.
These guys give wardens a bad name. There was absolutely no defined shoulder on that dirt road, what a joke. How the hell does a fence line define a shoulder?
There was barely enough room between the road and the fence to pull a truck completely off the road. That is the definition of a shoulder. Where you high when you watched the video?
@@brianr5874 eh-boy, you just aren't getting it, are you? dfranz3551 never implied that....clearly is stating "there is NO such SHOULDER"... A SHOULDER allows you to pull a truck "COMPLETELY OFF ROAD" is the definition. You get it now? Please tell me you don't hunt?🙄
Fun fact: game wardens do not need a warrant for the fact that all evidence of poaching can be destroyed by the time they get a warrant. So yes, they can come onto your property, especially if they see a harvested animal that shouldn't be there. In my state at least.
@@TheRaghorn Around here they can. They "may enter any buidling or dwelling at any reasonable time and inspect any container wherein game may be kept" or something very close to that is how it's worded in the law book.
@@TheRaghorn I grew up hunting in Minnesota. That's how it's worded in the laws there. Im living across the river in Wisconsin now and the law is similar here.
@@Brian424 Glad I live in IL. I had a warden wanting to come into my house once and also a federal marshall that wanted to come in on a separate case, and both were told NO, and to go get a warrant. Neither one must of not had enough evidence to get the warrant, because neither one came back. But they sure went to every local taxidermy shop in the area trying to learn if I had ever mounted anything there in the past. LOL.
@@Firetruckdude123 They're not looking for people actually poaching, they set up a fake elk in order to entice someone to commit a crime. That is the definition of entrapment.
@@nickk964not entrapment. Entrapment means you get someone to do something they wouldn’t normally do. If you shoot a decoy buck thinking it’s a real buck somewhere it’s illegal to shoot, you attempted to poach. Nobody made you do something you wouldn’t normally.
Here in Vermont, you need to be 25 feet off the edge of the road unless it's a class 4 road, in which case you can't be in the traveled portion of the road.
The wardens violated the 1st hunters (that didnt shoot) 4th Amendment Rights by pulling him over without there being any crime and only to ask him not to tell anyone.
The three hunters in the truck and the youngest took a shot at the buck. That was a legal shot, he didn’t shoot from the shoulder. The gun was rested on the fence post there for he shot from the fence line not the shoulder. A road's shoulder is the graded or surfaced area of the roadway that's next to the pavement. It's a strip of pavement that's outside of the road's outer lane. He was standing on grass and beyond the gravel surface. Was not shooting across the road. So he was legal, unless the regulations stipulated that there is a set distance from a public road.
1) Stop for a check? I’m clearly hunting, here’s my license. Except he didn’t check the license. That was a pretense and a BS stop 2) “Where are you headed.” None of your business. 3) “Don’t warn anybody on your way up”. Whether I was planning on it or not, you can neither compel nor restrict my speech.
That's a pretty vague description of boundaries. He was out of the truck off the road and as a road builder in Az he was off the shoulder, he was in the right of way but off the road.
@dfranz3551 This person is supposed to be a professional and to say something he should know is wrong does not make him smart in the eye of the public and yes I am perfect every second of every day just like everybody else. Entrapment is not a fair practice. You forgot to do your own research, so you should look in the mirror to see who is wrong !
My wife and I got on a white tail buck on state land in Montana once but the buck just stood there and didnt even flinch for at least 5 minutes while we waited for it to step out from behind the brush. I began to wonder if it was a decoy and also why in the world the game Dept would plant a legal decoy on legal ground during legal season and legal shooting hours. I decided to shout "Nice Decoy" and the buck turned and ran for his life 😂
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As a former guide from Trout Creek, Mt. I can say that at times the wardens and law enforcement turned a blind eye. So many of those families hunted simply to make it through the winter. At times like that compassion and understanding trump the deer population. Sorry... A man must feed his children
I hate poachers, but i feel like some people really do need that meat more than people realize or want to believe.
You know honestly to watch this video and to see these wardens set up these entrapments make me sick ! This is one of the reasons I quit hunting plus the cost of licenses Tags all the rules and regs cost to travel Man buy a 4H beef and put these money hungry video making government turds out of business 👍and god bless WE THE PEOPLE 🇺🇸
It costs a lot of money for out of staters to travel to and hunt in Montana. They're not poor and in need of meet, they're poaching.
I was referring to the locals that can work only during the logging season. Winter is long lean for a family with 6 kids. But yes I do agree. its the out of state hunters that fund most of the conservation costs@@stevehardwick7285
they shouldn't be living in the woods if they can't afford to feed themselves without breaking the law.
I can attest to the steltheness of Wardens. Once i was wade fishing almost 2 miles from any road and 2 Wardens slide up behind me in a canoe and scared the living BaJeseus out of me. I was legal as always, but them boys got me gooood. 😂
Those wardens are tough dudes --- they ain't gonna tolerate any MAGA crooks out there poaching game!
Ya, they all want to be spec ops. It's pretty lame.
im still waiting to get spooked by a couple wardens fishing some day lmao
They're legal stalkers and harassers, they got to get that money for the state some how I guess. If you ask me I'd say they're a waste of good air.
I had a PA Waterways Conservation Officer, sneak up on me in a ghilli suit once, miles from the roadway. LOL, thankfully, I'm licensed angler, and a volunteer whom he recognized.
I really like when they highlight the people doing things legally and properly aswell as the criminals. Gives people who are new or thinking about getting into the sport the right ideas.
248 lol 243 is one of the most popular youth hunter rifles. The fact the warden doesnt know his calibers, especially one of the most popular of all time, makes me worried.
Hell When I hunt once in a blue moon I still use my old 243 and or 30-30 I usually dont want to take out a loan for a Box of ammo
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That's almost as bad as when I went to buy a 243 for a new hunter a few months ago and this particular store didn't have any and the gun salesman said it wasn't a very popular caliber. Left there scratching my head and went to another store that had several in stock.
Beat me to it
It was pretty obvious that it was a 284 Winchester. You can clearly see the rebated rim in his hand.
Call me a poacher or whatever you want but the kid that shot from the fence I honestly wouldn’t have an issue with, hear me out, he wasn’t shooting ACROSS a traveled roadway he got out went to the fence and used the post to take a steady shot. The argument that if he would have been on the other side of the fence is absurd, being 16” on the other side makes it ok give me a break. I’m sure there is a rule on the distance they have to be from a roadway but in this case him saying he needed to be on the other side is asinine. Then to argue “well it’s unfair for the animal because they were hunting from a vehicle.” They were traveling in their vehicle, more than likely been hunting all day without success, then seen a very nice size legal buck and took a shot. You hear everyone say when they score a big one “ ya I was lucky just happened to be in the right place at the right time” in my opinion I don’t see how that situation was any different, they happened to be in the right place at the right time. Now I’m sure I’ll get called out “i can only imagine how many animals you’ve poached” and my response is I haven’t even taken game in the past 2 years I’ve been hunting because I have been wanting my wife to get something nice and legal. So before I get bashed for this I’m just expressing my opinion, I would say nail them to the cross if they were shooting out the window or at night with a light but that’s not what happened.
How many animals have you poached?! Seriously though, I live on Long Island. I've seen south american "immigrants" fishing our lakes and keep EVERY FISH. Small sunfish, anything. I've seen Asians crabbing and keep EVERY CRAB. TINY blueclaws, male, female, didn't matter to them. It's crazy how some people will fish. Real criminal poachers are disgustingly brazen.
That BEAST of a 15 year old (what a big boy!) steadied his shot on a post... Honestly in practice it was more responsible than a 250lb young man trying to hop barbed wire and shoot free standing. The warden essentially instructing him to hop the fence next time was a wild suggestion imo. As far as I'm concerned if you have tags for the beast and it's on land legal to hunt... the game should be fair game. Arbitrary rules followed by a court date and a lecture are patronizing. The 15 year old will now fear retribution from game wardens, but not respect them.
I don't know Montana rules, but it seems like the kid was "off the road". I don't see the harm in what he did but I'm willing to be educated.
@Cree_Money man I live in jersey and the wardens here are kinda soft. I always see the Portuguese up by flat brook taking way more then 2 pheasants. They stuff their trunks till the end if the day.
@@Cree_Moneybut yet they wrote me for not signing my license and give me a lecture about it too
@@wholeass83what the hell did they're lecture consist of?
As a sportsman from Utah, I really appreciate enforcement on poaching. I've seen lots of poaching of Elk, Deer - even closely managed Wood Ducks. Big thanks!
You come to Montana, ol warden Goalie will git ya!
Gotta love how the old game warden is just there enjoying his job jumping in front of people 😂
He does that too many more times and we won't ever be an older game warden.
The case where the kid shot from the fence, I believe that warden was splitting hairs. The kid left the vehicle and got off of the road before the shot.
Most state require a certain distance from roads / dwellings
Yeah those guys were jerks
if you look at the laws on it you dont have to be ON the road he was road hunting which is not acceptable
@@BetweentheCheeks00the right of way includes land on either side of the road ( for drainage etc). Basically stops at the fence. He was on the wrong side of the fence. Doesn't matter where the muzzle is. It is where the person is.
@brianhillis3701 the right of way is a minimum number of feet determined by the state for local roadways, highways, etc. Not fence line to fence line. For example, if the minimum right of way for local roadway was 60 ft and he was off the edge of the travel way by 20 ft, then he is out of the right way, fence or no fence.
It would be interesting to be in a hunters safety course in Montana and see how detailed they are about when a berm/shoulder ends. So are they saying if he had been just to the other side of that fence he would have been legal?
Montana regulations include all of the right of way of the road. So fence to fence. It’s harsh but the legislative intent was to discourage road hunting in all forms.
@@bpdp379can't call your buddy or use 2-way communication either. Crazy! I use radios and phone with my kid so he doesn't get lost.
Dude he was one step off of the road lol. I'd say common sense suggests the shoulder is at least a car width? Over the fence would be the obvious thing in his particular situation.
@@jacksonlawrence6929 you are not a hunter if you shoot a deer on the shoulder. stop crying and be a real man. its all you folk that kill for excess that get mad about sensical laws. that is not hunting and you are just roleplaying dressing up in camo with ur dads rifle to shoot off the shoulder of the road. go into the woods and legally track game like a normal hunter.
nope. if he goes over the fence, he's hunting with out permission and trespassing
Ive never seen this show before but kinda hooked. Ezra honestly seems like a super cool guy and doesnt like doing this but good on him for doing whats right.
Went to the academy with him. What you see here is the real Ezra.
is there still a $50 charge if the shooter missed the decoy?
Lol good question
Montana appears to have passed a law prohibiting the shooting at or of "simulated wildlife" while hunting, just so this entrapment can yield multiple fines.
Exactly what it is. Entrapment.
@@jasonshults368 I'd walk ot of the duck marsh with two dozen tickets and some leaky decoys 😅
@jheathen2678 so they made them, stop, aim, take safety off, and shoot it? You sound dumb
Glad to see your Legacy with this show continue (Founder Steve Puppe of Wardens) R.I.P buddy...
So funny how these guys calmly deal with people who have loaded weapons while non wildlife law enforcement pisses their pants over people who more often than not don’t even have a weapon but just might have one.
It has something to do with the demographics of the people involved. Most hunters are still civilized, even if breaking the law.
Definitely a different crowd of gun owners.
This comment shows how much people need to learn about the hunting community and the gun owning community in general. Stop listening to cnn
If you're a hunter you would know that 99% of hunters are the most law abiding citizens in the country.
@@reasonwarrior agree 100%
They do this in Colorado all the time. In fact 2 guys that I use to work with got in big trouble, shooting a mechanical buck, using their truck as a rifle rest, shooting across a county road. Coincidentally they were brothers from Montana. LOL. They caught hell at the factory where we worked. We laughed at them for years.
In Colorado the CPW is all about the money these days. The dimocrat government in Denver needs more money to give away to illegals that have decided to invade apartment buildings and take over. Of course Polis says it isn't happening. I used to have respect for the Division of Wildlife but since it has become CPW, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, it just another abusive police organization.
When I was a kid hunting with my dad for one of the first times we had to travel through an easement to hunt my grandmas land (which we also had permission to hunt) and there was what looked to be a giant buck with does. Me being the over excited kid that I was I wanted to shoot it. But my dad noticed something funny about the deer not pinging us like the rest. Long story short the game wardens where waiting 😂
ones of those random times later in life you give your dad a beer randomly.
I like the fact that they said he was shooting a 248 lol never heard of that lol
I’m wondering if that was a symptom of dyslexia. There’s definitely not a .248 cartridge.
My thoughts exactly!! 😂😂
Was wondering if it was a 243 and he saw the 3 as a 8
probably ment 243 @adambartlett3483
lol you funny....../ MK 248 was used in a Remington 700 rifle ;)
Rule of thumb...... Make sure the animal takes a step 😂
Or, just don’t do illegal stuff
@@christophergilbert2306they shouldn’t regulate what we can and can’t shoot so much. Game wardens are very anti-freedom.
@@keeganb9477cry me a River
Facts@@christophergilbert2306
@@keeganb9477can you be more ignorant? They regulate so people don't poach and over hunt
Real fair considering most state land is full of cows because ranchers wait till hunting season to move them onto their leased state land so no matter what you always have to cross a fence
All the people getting mad about “entrapment” isn’t a Hunter or they’re a poacher. If you were a Hunter you wouldn’t be mad about them trying to catch poachers because poachers are the ones that are gonna ruin hunting for everyone.
yep, when i took my hunting class here in canada the instructor told us about how canada geese were almost wiped out in north america by 1900 because it was unregulated. now theres so many geese we call them the canadian air force.
Don't do illegal stuff they can't entrap you
As a outdoorsman poachers make me sick. If you’re doing something illegal you deserve everything taken away. If everyone else has to do it the legal way so should you.
I do admire the wardens. At 13:40 minutes a warden identified a cartridge as 248. Know the law. Know what cartridges are.
Lmao I was looking for this
Really? U never even handled a rifle cartridge? Lol the freaking caliber is stanped on the bottom of ever single shell. He literally picks it up and reads it... jeez
@@JobieCatherman-be5sw I never hear of a 248 in a SA cartridge.
@perrytilton5221 yeah it was such a blunder i had to comment. These guys are ego driven idiots
@@JobieCatherman-be5sw there's a .284 Winchester and a .243 Winchester and a .244 something, but I haven't heard of a .248 anything.
Headstamps do and don't matter. I have 30-06 cases I used for .270, I have .277 sig loaded as .308 Winchester, .308 brass loaded for 7x57, 7.62 for 9x39, etc.
Tricking people into breaking the rules and actually protecting and managing wildlife are separate things
I totally agree
16:12 theres no way i "pass the test." Then they tell me i gotta call a friend to try and set him up. I'd tell him to get bent...
He already called the friend.
He was hiding out in the setup with the warden he might as well caled him to set him up
Getting out of the truck and shooting from the ditch in no way should be illegal. Good job hunters. Bad job law.
I agree.
It’s legal here that’s why I was confused
It’s illegal because it could be private land he is shooting the deer on and that’s really illegal
@@Countryboy404 that used to be legal here up until like 2 years ago now you need permission on every bit of land. Before it was you need to post every 100 yards orherwise anybody could go on anyone’s land. But here as long as your foot is off the road you can shoot in the ditch
It’s Montana so it’s even odds that it’s government (taxpayer) land. In my state, on public you need to be 100’ from the centerline of a maintained road to be legal, but in some states it’s legal to hunt from roads just not vehicles.
4 guys in Lincoln learned their lesson. They lost hunting privileges for 14 years...Great deterrence for Poachers🤣
Right. It's like taking gun rights from a repeat criminal who steals and illegally possesses guns.
I agree. I was not serious. It has no deterrence for those types@@mtcoiner7994
When you can be imprisoned for hunting/fishing but illegally cross its borders by the millions and given a free phone, credit card and put up in hotels while we have vets homeless on our streets.... 🧐
only in america
Well said miss heather
Well, every year we have new entrepreneurs that want to hire cheap labor, I work with a really nice guy that let me use his cabin for camping, his boat to go fishing, he complains about illegal immigration but doesn’t care that I am living illegally in the us since 2001, i worked with him from 2003 to 2018 now I’m still working for him ( subcontracting ) just with an LLC, insurance and bond, and my ITN number he always complains about illegals I have to remind him that I am here illegally.😢
I hope your employer gets arrested for hiring illegals and when they raid his business I hope they deport you too!
Game wardens you will meet will be a 50/50 between good and bad. Even though you are 100% legal they like to find things to charge you with. But get a good one and you learn good hunting information
Thats my dream job ! Such beautiful country and the love for wildlife.
KOOK!
I worked part time in KS for six (6) years for Wildlife and Parks and worked in law enforcement for over 29 years. I have noted that Game Wardens in general are very under trained in Officer Survivability Tactics and that none of the Game Wardens in this video were wearing protective (bullet proof) vests. Hopefully since the filming of this video times have changed for them.
Imagine if Banks left stacks of cash out on the tables in their lobby to see if anyone would steal.
In Wyoming, as long as you cross a ditch, you are no longer on the shoulder and its perfectly legal, provided you have permission to hunt that property
In Colorado when he placed the muzzle of his firearm over the fence he has done nothing illegal as long as he has permission to hunt the private property or it is public land.
@@RJB 6 YARDS OFF ROAD I TIHNK IS PLENTY TO BE OFF SHOULDER I THINK HIM SHOTING ON THE FENCE IS LEGAL BUT WHAT EVER THE WARDEN SAYS IG NO SHOULDER IS MORE THEN 6 YARDS
@@RJBhow many "real" roads have zero ditch ? Are you talking a off-road trail?
Maine you can shoot of a dirt road . 10 feet off a paved road
Ahaha... Memory time... In Alabama, I used to drink coffee with 4 other gents in the mornings once in awhile. One of these gentlmen, I'll call him Ed, was a game warden. This morning, he was excited to show me his new mechanical deer decoy. I was in awe at how real this decoy looked! This day I was working 3 to 11 and as I was driving home, I see a deer under a well lit sign. I stopped, clapped my hands and nothing. So I opened my truck door, pulled the seat up and came out like I had a rifle saying, "Bang, bang, bang!" I hear Ed say, "Dammit, Yank, get the hell out of here!!" lol The next morning, when I stopped for coffee, I saw Ed and he just laughed and told me after I had stopped, four other folks had stopped and actually shot that decoy.
Also, I worked with a guy whose teenage son saw a deer down in a small ravine. He swerved off the road, int that small ravine and smashed the decoy AND his dad's truck!! Yeah, he didn't hunt or drive for quite awhile!! lmbo! You cannot make this stuff up!!! lol
Mechanical decoys sounds like entrapment, right? Someday the cops will be using AI-controlled female robots to entrap guys looking for hookers LOL
In West Virginia, the road is property line to property line with or without a ditch or room for a vehicle, right of ways are measured from the center of the road and on small roads can be up to 30 feet, I work for state roads and we deal with this every day because of mowing and tree removal
Here in ny u must be 5 feet off road to take a shot
So, what exactly are you saying? Are you "for or against" shooting from the road?
@@mikesmith4725 for it nothing wrong with it
@@mikesmith4725everyone is against but the variance of legal definition is the pain...
Wherever you are, the law banning two way communication for hunting is beyond words i can even express. Why is it wrong to have communication with the person you are hunting with..
Cause Uncle Sam needs that money brooo. Has nothing to do with doing anything wrong other then bc Sam says it’s not okay it’s not okay. They’ll keep searching for ways to take our rights away one by one. Slowly
They claim it's because of "Fair Chase" because apparently your partner calling you to tell you the animals ran away and the hunt is over is giving the hunter an advantage over the animals.
It’s perfectly legal in other states! Boycott Montana! Don’t even glance towards Montana!
Because it violate the rules of fair chase. You are supposed to go find and kill a legal animal on your own, not get 10 guys with radios who surround the herd and coordinate the entire hunt.
That's a crazy law and even unsafe to ban communication between hunters. For example if two or more people are hunting somewhat near each other and one or both people are leaving the stand other hunters in the area need to know where they are going so they don't accidentally shoot in their direction.
Real Hunters Can Tell From A Fake Decoy To A Real Animal Most Elk Will Walk Or Run Once You Stop Your Vehicle Pretty Logic Unless Your Drunk Or On Drugs
Real hunters would never even think of taking the shot
Real hunters aren’t on the road 😂
@@dgonzales540finally someone said it….. actually crazy how some people call them selves “hunters” and spend their entire life not going a mile from their truck 😂
@@DWAIBudI tell people who use stands and blinds they are hunting either. They are just twiddling their thumbs waiting for luck to strike.
So will wild turkeys.
It's a nightmare to draw a tag and we all put up with it, patiently and gratefully; jerks that circumvent access to (and destroy) rare resources we all have to share should face more severe punishments.
Decoy not even close to realistic. Its just a idiot tax.
Y'all hear that...... "targeting" hunters, headed home from a weekend..... 🤦♂️🤯
Love watching poachers getting taken down!
I get what the wardens are trying to do here but I'd just like to see the real poachers get caught. These are are all regular hunters that mean well. Sure, were all guilty of a little buck fever here and there but this is like the cop that hides and then gets excited about writing a ticket for 10 over to the guy just trying to make to work and back. To me, this is lazy law enforcement trying to hit a quota. Go find the real bad guys
Growing up my neighbor lost his hunting rights for life when he got caught for the third time shooting at a decoy the week before season started. When he made the shot, he just set the rifle on the hood of his truck and put his hands up because he knew what was happening.
Slow learner
Good to live in TN. i get a deer on my own property whenever i want.
They introduce wolves that kill thousands of elk, deer and moose, but they nitpick at some guys that pay thousands of dollars in licenses and tags to be able to maybe get one deer or elk per year.
Wolves were there to begin with, they are also proven to be good for the ecosystem in general. But I agree they are nitpicking a lot of these guys here
@@rylandavis2976 This wolves are an invasive introduced predator, and the deer and elk were doing just fine without them, and we don't need them in the ecosystem.
They have decimated the elk, deer and moose where they are introduced.
@@ferratilis they are not an invasive predator, they have been here longer than homo sapiens and we exterminated them. And there is little evidence that they have anything more then a marginal impact on herd populations. In fact when wolves are reintroduced, we see the resiliency of herds increase, and their population numbers stay more stable, not fluctuating wildly year to year. Wolves thin out the weak and sick and create a better breeding gene pool. Predators have lived in balance with elk and deer for literally millions of years, they are not at all invasive in the United States. You need to actually read the scientific literature on this.
@@ferratilis we have actual data on herd sizes from introducing them into 3 states in 1995. From 1995 - 2018 2 of these states had increased in their game animal populations (pretty substantial increases) and in the other state (Idaho) the populations stayed the same. You are absolutely wrong about everything you said.
Lol no. The elk population is 1/3rd what it was pre wolf intro in Idaho.
This is absolutely entrapment! They are enticing someone to break the law.
So don't break it.
@@reasonwarriorBootlicking! Our rights are God-given in this country, as the constitution makes clear.
@patrickhayes7838 Rights to unethically kill game indiscriminately from moving vehicles, roadways, and overharvest? You certainly seem to enjoy your right to be an idiot. People like you are why we need game wardens at all.
You have the right to hunt and gather. Boot licker
They are not pushing you to do anything. It’s your choice to shot from the road or at night. Have you never seen an animal from the road before lol.
This whole operation is entrapment in my humble opinion.
do you also eat lead paint in your opinion? wardens didnt make anyone pull the trigger. be a real man and hunt like a true hunter lol
If the cops were the ones telling you to take the shot maybe. You clearly don’t know what that word means.
Entrapment is when an officer influences the individual’s decision to commit the crime.
Been using this decoy for 20 years.....thatll be $50 to replace the decoy.
I was bass fishing on a busy lake. All types of recreational boating activities going on while we fished. I was getting a very annoyed by the jet skis and kids on tubes buzzing us, but I also realize that they have the right to enjoy this lake as much as I do. Then a ski boat drove right up to us! I was about to yell at them when I noticed their uniforms. Game Wardens! They checked us out, all of which was perfectly legal. I complemented them on their stealth, they chuckled and wished us a good day. That was the only encounter I have ever had with a warden.
Dont need to do any detective work if you got a snitch.Impressive job.
Glad to see y'all on YT. My biggest gripe with the state was the slap on the wrist many of these criminals got for poaching and such. Kinda made me thing "Why bother going to the trouble of catching elk or deer poachers if all they get is a slab on the wrist?" Hell, if some of these people were caught in Texas or another state doing this stuff, they'd be behind bars or pay a ton of money in fines and still lose their guns/other equipment including vehicles including their right to hunt/fish in the state for years. In Montana, it just seems the justice system didn't place a very high value on their wildlife.
It's not usually like that,pretty rare actually.Montana game wardens and game regs have same type of confiscation,loss of right and 5 digit fines
Texas sucks compared to any rocky mountain state for gun laws and regulations. High fence is poaching in rocky mountain states, but Texas does it all day... Pathetic 😂
They loose hunting privileges and can lose guns and vehicles and stuff so I’m not sure what you’re exactly talking about
@@69n420 Watch the episodes and see the slap on the wrist they get at the end.
@@DrivingWithDon this is tv show not what really happens in real life but what I think could happen is that because they agree to be on tv or something then small fine or just fake
OMG that dog is just amazing and precious. Dogs are the best
Not funny had dog that when I missed she refused to come back until she found the shots shotshell wad kinda embarrassing and frustrating dogs are part of the hunting equipment and fun 😅
These guys have the nicest uniforms.
Legal entrapment needs to be expanded. On principle, if you’re supplying the means of a crime for the purpose of creating crime, you are responsible for the crime, assuming it even is a crime.
What,!
Every Woman is guilty If she got raped, because she has a pu....! Is this your logic?
This is such a game warden thing to do
Game wardens not wearing orange huh? If it's not safe for us why is it safe for them?
Wearing orange wouldn't suit their purposes, they're above the law didn't you know? 😂
Because they're trying to hide? Seeing an elk with a bunch of orange blobs in the area defeats the purpose of the mission.
Is this really a serious question? The wardens should park their trucks in the woods with the party lights on for safety too.
They arent hunting
They handled dealing with the violator's very good respectful and educational to show them 10:12
Looks like this could be entrapment, I wonder if anyone has fought it in court. I'm pretty sure that warden cannot have the one guy calling his buddy to lure him in.
It is. The problem is that your fighting against the millions of dollars worth of tax dollars they have access to. You can fight, but eventually you run out of your own funds.
It is most definitely entrapment and they have it on film
Entrapment- to lure one into a crime for the purpose of prosecuting them for that crime.
Yes this is clear cut entrapment. And also an illegal traffic stop and detainment for the on the first guy in the white suburban.
@@xanthosloftwood2290you dont understand how our wildlife laws work at all whatsoever game wardens have more authority than cops in their respective “jurisdictions” also you have to make them do something they wouldnt normally do so yea it aint entrapment
Engineering-speak here. The road template includes the road, the ditch (both sides) and sometimes to the top of the cutbank on the high side or the toe of the fill on the low side. I carry a shotgun with 4" blackpowder blanks, just because.
Wow, Montana can't use 2 way communication?that's nuts
Everyone is just lost and yelling 😂🤣 "are these uhf radios son? Those are poaching tools"
Alaska can't either. Drives me nuts considering it's a huge safety issue when you're in an area where you can die so easily.
@@randomidiot8142what? Pretty sure you can bring it, just not use it.. before getting on some rage, you should look it up.
@@Ryan-re1rs some regs don't allow the use of electronics to take game. It's a pretty broad berth for interpretation. If you're tag checked and they see radios or search your stuff and find them, what's your defense if they ticket you for using them while hunting?
If you bear hunt and take an ecaller for opportunities for fox and coyote, what's your defense if they find an ecaller and you have a bear down?
They say they don't allow them 'for hunting', but it's too much gray area for someone with no defense against accusations.
Radios should be considered safety equipment in the wild. And legal. AFAIAC
This looks a lot like entrapment...
“That’s what he’s shooting, a .248.” Wow…
I came to the comments just to see if anyone else caught that 😂
@@jasonbird1542 I heard that too. I would have asked them to cut that out lol
Maybe the warden has a military background and he was referring to a 300 win mag. (mk 248 mod 1)
@@Dynamice1337interesting, explain that a little better ?
@@Dynamice1337bingo
1. I'm not a road hunter and truly believe in fair chase yet also believe that if its legal a hunter can take game how they want.
2. That 15 year old kid was off of the roadway.
3. Years ago an acquaintance of mine and his friend were driving out to their deer camp mid morning and spotted a clear DNR poaching set-up with a Whitetail decoy. The were stopped by the DNR and asked some questions because they slowed down. When they got to the cabin they told the others what had happened. It infuriated one of the camp members who took his shotgun and a ton of buckshot, drove to the site, got out of his vehicle, did everything right but then ran out into the field and just unloaded at the decoy and reloaded and shot more as the DNR were running towards him trying to get him to stop shooting.
He is actually deaf so he probably couldn't hear the DNR trying to get him to stop shooting.
He destroyed that decoy.😂
The kid makes the honest effort to get off the road, in which he was NOT on the shoulder. Then you write him up anyways. Big man to use his judgement there for that call 🙄
Kid did no such thing. All he did was he wanted to use the post to steady his gun.
I hunted many times in Montana and very often the Lodge owner would call hunters and tell them if elk were migrating down lower. I never heard of this before, although I know many hunters carry radios for hunting purposes.
In Maine, pavement is what defines a road. Dirt, no matter the purpose is considered unimproved and legal to shoot from.
Just like Michigan. You just have to load the weapon after you exit the vehicle.
The guy was shooting a 248!! Never heard of that caliber before!! Lol
$50 for damage to the decoy😂😂😂💪
Thought that was interesting too. Haha.
if only we had these guys during the native bison era
If the rancher moved the fence 2 ft further in would it still be the shoulder maybe 100 ft in still the shoulder a private fence is not a public shoulder marker
Facts
I want to know where and if they hit the decoys!
😂
These game wardens are so brave and noble ,really have to admire how they prey on people and uphold their big egos while they protect and serve themselves , what wpuld we do without the modern police state we live in , also their famous last words they all live by is , we dont make the laws we just enforce them, spoken like the true boot lickers they are
You definitely never graduated high school and got caught for breaking the law because you can’t read eh 😂😂
Conservation efforts exist for a reason
All for conservation. Not for self serving DNR OFFICERS !!!
I'm mixed on this one. On the one hand, people poach. On the other hand, the rules are too complicated and obscure and vary wayyy too much state to state.
All for conservation?? Boy, it's gonna take a lot of sauce to serve me that turd sandwich. Game laws and the FWP are the reason why the elk numbers are 1/8 what they used to be in Montana. Look up "shoulder season", and the introduction of Canadian wolves into Montana.
Montana is a joke but it’s alright for private land owners to haze the Elk on there property to keep them from leaving their property so they can outfit during hunting season
Cold hard facts.
Lemme see the sources silly
Those of us who hunt in Montana all know it happens. I have seen ranch hands stage up in their trucks by their fence line on a migration route and steer the herd as it comes along.
The old 248 was my favourite for shootin the breeze.
If the orange vests are legitimately for safety concerns, then why don't the wardens need to wear them while in the woods on public property?
You serious?
Rules for thee, not for me.
They absolutely do put it up as a gotcha
I live in the country on a farm, anyone who can't tell the difference between a real and fake animal is obvious from the city and knows nothing with respect to hunting, animals, or property owners rights. I deal with the city a-holes every hunting season.
9:50
I'm confused, the dude was off of the shoulder? Just because it is a gravel road doesn't mean the weeds next the road is part of the shoulder because there is gravel in it.
Absolute violation of our rights. Pulling someone over because you dont want them to go warn people of your entrapment?! Yeah. 🖕🏻
Love these videos reminds me of my buddy dowdy
This makes me wanna be a game warden!
In my area I had huge bucks all summer and leading up to season. Literally 1 day before open bow season, I heard gun shoots during prime hunting hours in the morning and evening.... I even told my 17yr old son who helped til and plot and feed all year, I heard shots and it was probably our bucks and we'll see if they show up on trail cam....
Never seen em again... still to this day not even a doe 😢
I know someone illegally shot em!
That was sept 30th and rifle season just opened 2 days ago for us. 😒
Oh man that sucks. Thieves are the lowest….
Yup happens to the best of us! Every got dang year!!!
Sound like you like in Florida 😂😂😂
At the same time, a lot of bucks have their summer rounds and move out early fall to make their territories. See it every year on a couple properties that hold multiple bucks throughout summer. All but 1 if not all (due to a bigger buck or more moving in) leave in the first half of Sept and don't come back until the end of winter. At least around here bucks tend to stick together and disperse before things start hitting the fan
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Its insane to me that the 15 year old kid was literally 5 feet from being legal. All he had to do was cross a fence. Crazy. I then the second dude they stop for the elk decoy they are saying 2 way communication is illegal when hes calling a buddy to MAKE SURE ITS A LEGAL ELK. Just insane. I get trying to catch poachers but I swear man you cant fart in the woods anymore without getting some sort of ticket. Especially since hunters like me are just trying to eat.
These guys give wardens a bad name. There was absolutely no defined shoulder on that dirt road, what a joke. How the hell does a fence line define a shoulder?
He didn't say JUST the shoulder... pay attention.
There was barely enough room between the road and the fence to pull a truck completely off the road. That is the definition of a shoulder. Where you high when you watched the video?
@dfranz3551 So the definition of a shoulder is "barely enough room to pull my truck off the road." OK thanks I didn't know that.
@@brianr5874 eh-boy, you just aren't getting it, are you?
dfranz3551 never implied that....clearly is stating "there is NO such SHOULDER"... A SHOULDER allows you to pull a truck "COMPLETELY OFF ROAD" is the definition. You get it now? Please tell me you don't hunt?🙄
@BumpNrun69 your the one missing the point, boy. At what point would he have been legal? Jumping the fence and being 1 foot farther?
Fun fact: game wardens do not need a warrant for the fact that all evidence of poaching can be destroyed by the time they get a warrant. So yes, they can come onto your property, especially if they see a harvested animal that shouldn't be there. In my state at least.
But they can not come into your house without a warrant, even if they see 20 heads hanging on the walls. At least in IL.
@@TheRaghorn Around here they can. They "may enter any buidling or dwelling at any reasonable time and inspect any container wherein game may be kept" or something very close to that is how it's worded in the law book.
@@Brian424 And what state are you talking about?
@@TheRaghorn I grew up hunting in Minnesota. That's how it's worded in the laws there. Im living across the river in Wisconsin now and the law is similar here.
@@Brian424 Glad I live in IL. I had a warden wanting to come into my house once and also a federal marshall that wanted to come in on a separate case, and both were told NO, and to go get a warrant. Neither one must of not had enough evidence to get the warrant, because neither one came back. But they sure went to every local taxidermy shop in the area trying to learn if I had ever mounted anything there in the past. LOL.
Are there any lawyers reading the comments? Im curious to know if this is entrapment.
It is not. Entrapment requires a state agent to take a step towards the furtherance of the crime. Basically everything the FBI does to make cases…
I'm not supporting illegal doings or anything but how would the decoy thing actually stand up in court? Wouldn't it be some form of entrapment?
Wow, I think the kid could of gotten a warning, and maybe had a serious talk with his father.
His father was in the front seat. Said don't slam the door. lol
Warden looks like Jim from The Office if he was an outdoorsmen lol. Warden Halpert
Entrapment: the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution.
you dumb on purpose or does your mom feed you lead paint
It wasn't entrapment
@@Firetruckdude123 They're not looking for people actually poaching, they set up a fake elk in order to entice someone to commit a crime. That is the definition of entrapment.
@@nickk964not entrapment. Entrapment means you get someone to do something they wouldn’t normally do. If you shoot a decoy buck thinking it’s a real buck somewhere it’s illegal to shoot, you attempted to poach. Nobody made you do something you wouldn’t normally.
U folks really need to come up to Lost Prairie...
Here in Vermont, you need to be 25 feet off the edge of the road unless it's a class 4 road, in which case you can't be in the traveled portion of the road.
The wardens violated the 1st hunters (that didnt shoot) 4th Amendment Rights by pulling him over without there being any crime and only to ask him not to tell anyone.
wrong. do your homework
@@hooch519 you are wrong. They DID violate the 4th Ammendment
They said that 2 way communication was the reason they stopped him. So they could have went farther with it but let him off easy.
You are wrong Lee@@leemichaels1456
I think warden’s can search anything without propel cause their feds you have no rights
The three hunters in the truck and the youngest took a shot at the buck. That was a legal shot, he didn’t shoot from the shoulder. The gun was rested on the fence post there for he shot from the fence line not the shoulder.
A road's shoulder is the graded or surfaced area of the roadway that's next to the pavement. It's a strip of pavement that's outside of the road's outer lane. He was standing on grass and beyond the gravel surface. Was not shooting across the road. So he was legal, unless the regulations stipulated that there is a set distance from a public road.
Your tax dollars at work! Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime! Thanks for your service game wardens! 😂 😂 😂
1) Stop for a check? I’m clearly hunting, here’s my license. Except he didn’t check the license. That was a pretense and a BS stop 2) “Where are you headed.” None of your business. 3) “Don’t warn anybody on your way up”. Whether I was planning on it or not, you can neither compel nor restrict my speech.
That's a pretty vague description of boundaries. He was out of the truck off the road and as a road builder in Az he was off the shoulder, he was in the right of way but off the road.
Would of been legal in Maine.
Arizona also
just as long as you don't shoot over the road or out of the truck
"thats what hes shootin.... a .248" 😂🤣
These wardens are an absolute embarrassment to those in their field and conservation as a whole.
How so?
Elaborate.
I mean the end of his barrel was on the other side of the fence lol
The officer called the rifle a 248 for witch there is no such thing and even looked at the spent brass, there needs to be some improvements here.
whitch?
Criticizing a person for misspeaking on camera. Way to go. I am sure you are perfect 100 percent of the time.
Not only criticize somebody for saying something wrong but not knowing that there is such thing as .248 makes it even. Research before mouth opens
@blairmaccharles7167 There is no such a thing as a 248 it was no doubt a 243 win. Any person who holds a position like this should know better.
@dfranz3551 This person is supposed to be a professional and to say something he should know is wrong does not make him smart in the eye of the public and yes I am perfect every second of every day just like everybody else. Entrapment is not a fair practice. You forgot to do your own research, so you should look in the mirror to see who is wrong !
Too convenient. Hunter would have known it was a fake if he was a real Hunter