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I just came here to compliment Santosh for speaking his heart out. STUDENTS should listen to him and do due diligence. Whatever he mentioned that's completely true and people will surely understand if they are staying in US/Canada for around a decade (after that return is difficult but not impossible.) I am saying because of my 11 years experience in US and have started process of return to bangalore. All what he said is true for USA too. Hope everyone to be happy wherever they are!
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Every single thing Santhosh said in this video is right on point, and I totally agree. I've been living in Vancouver for 12 years now and those of us who missed out on buying a home before COVID feel like there's little reason to stay.
I am living in the US for 25 years and what Santos is saying is absolutely true . US is next in line . He is a very smart guy and did his thorough research before he made the decision to move back to India . Best episode I have watched so far on this channel.
Thank you, Sanoths and Desi Return, for such a great video. It's been nearly three years since I moved to Canada, and I've had so many questions that I didn't know how to express or where to find answers. But this video has addressed all of them, and now I feel confident in planning my move back to India in the next couple of months.
I have lived in Canada 🇨🇦 for last 12 years, if you’re skilled there are many jobs in IT. I see so many smart Indians doing well. Yes it’s expensive now but if you work hard and save you can still achieve your dreams. FYI Hongkong people started flipping houses first in 90s Vancouver.
This is the case for Indians who have moved in in 7 years or less. If you have moved there 12 years ago, you moved in the golden period to move to Canada.
@@anjalidesai3630 There is no golden period. Whenever you start in a new country - for immigrants, it is a challenge. I am closely associated with the Canadian housing industry as a banker and have seen the ups and downs for the last 20 years. Willingness to persevere, patience and mental strength will help - you have to be a marathon runner not a sprinter in your outlook.
One thing that Santosh missed is the changing sentiments of native and naturalized Canadians towards newcomers (all nationalities). They see the newcomers more as a drain on the taxpayer than as contributors. Twitter is rife with people bad mouthing newcomers when the Canadians themselves are struggling to survive. In my opinion, the govt seems to prioritize immigration over the welfare of citizens. Homelessness and drug usage is skyrocketing and queues outside food banks are miles long. As Santosh pleaded, do thorough research before coming over. The mentality of "let's get there first and then we can figure it out" will lead you into a nightmare.
The most honest synopsis of living in the West. If you moved before 2000 to the West you are laughing otherwise it is not great. If I sell my house for £800k imagine the life I can have for my family!
This is where you are completely 100% wrong. When you sell a house you don't go to a street or go to a provisional park put a tent. you have to live in other house. And when you go to buy another house it is more expensive than the house you sold. Unless you're selling everything off taking the money and going back to India and due to the currency conversion there in India you can live like a king. But in Canada if you sell the house the next house would be much higher interest rate and higher price so you'll be in a worse of condition.
Writing from the US, broadly many of these issues as they pertain to housing cost and recent inflation are true. They affect lower income much more. Looks like there maybe a lot of South Asians in Canada in this situation. The better educated one is the more cushion one has against inflation and life is actually pretty good.
Absolutely agree with Santosh. Prospective students and parents should do their own due diligence instead of blindly believing the gold diggers who are pushing the "Canadian dream". Stupid tiktokkers like to show off in their mustangs and teslas to their gullible viewers. But what the viewers dont know is that the Teslas, BMW's and Mercedes are delivering pizzas and doing uber when they're not filming!
I agree with Santosh broadly on the issues or cons side. There are pros too but I do realize this discussion on challenges need to go out to avoid people from getting attracted to thr glamo5side of things which come after years or decades. Secondly the extreme examples or points about desis buying up houses etc is to be taken witu grain of salt. The point about people buying up more houses for business or investment has been going on for decades and its broad based - people from diverse nations and continents and even locals do it. The concentration of desis in certain pockets like Brampton is what he is referring to. Just try to put this in context.
At no point in past you had 2 million people coming in every year! This has put immense strain on housing markets and made rents go up like crazy. In front of my eyes the prices of detached houses in KW have gone up from 400k to 1.2 million in a span of just 5 years. Yes people did but multiple properties to put on rent but the rental market was never this hot !
Is there a way I can connect with Santosh? Im looking to discuss about the Canada's home buying process and also about how to plan to return if I have to plan for future and specifics such as canada pension and other factors that affect the move.
Earn money first and then say everything sucks. If you love india , how come you went Canada in first place and why don't you come back immediately after 1 or 2 years. And lastly you can't expect Canada or any other foreign country will fit according to your wishes.
So what? I seriously doubt anybody cares about temporary workers leaving Canada. More leaves the better. Less pressure on housing, medical system, schooling and many other things. I am scared to drive around TO with all the new immigrant drivers.
Part of his problem is he tried to create India there. You are not ready to adjust your lifestyle to the new place and expecting dal and samosa wherever u go- impossible. I am surprised the bank does t offer fixed mortgage- the interest rate will be high for fixed so people go for flexible rate. Then when rates go high - they cry. Inflation is everywhere after Covid . Medical waiting was like this for decades. That was not new.
One wrong information.. it was said that 16 lakhs you earn through interest in India is tax free ..actually the reality is although India won’t charge interest for NRIs but if you have PR or Australia/Canada citizenship then Australia will collect taxes on that amount ..you would need to mention foreign investment while submitting your taxes in Australia..if you don’t then Indian banks usually share this information with Australia tax authority
I am Indian Canadian. Each and every point this person made on this video are true to the point. Canadian health care is free, but you don’t get an appointment to see the doctors. If you go to emergency care you have to wait at least 5hours. Government is too much liberal. 10 years down the line, Canada is going to see bad consequences. Native Canadians are highly against Immigration. As a result I notice lot of racism towards immigrants. Housing prices are skyrocketing. Rents are high. Moreover, there is control over rent. Bad days are ahead unless conservatives take over the government. I have hopes on Conservatives. No option. Good thing about Canada is you work hard you make more money. Clean environment. Clean roads. Food is affordable. Schools are free. There are quite a more good things about Canada.
I don’t think food is affordable as of now. But yes other good points you mentioned about canada are good indeed. My main problem with canada is the cold weather, extremely high cost of living (rent, car payments, phone, wifi, electricity, car insurance, home insurance) . After all the payments you can hardly save 10% of your salary
Completly agree, they never said STUDENTS can come and earn money you spent on college. He is saying you need to pay tax on car for every sale, this is case every country. I am not sure about auto sale in India I know we pay registration fee again and again for each sale on houses/ lands. I agree they should limit immigration, can improve healthcare but you can't disrespect/insult them.
cannabis is bigger than heroin?? since when? I take cannabis for depression and my aunt takes it for sleep. Its medicinal cannabis...this guy is ignorant but I agree there are inflation and jobs issues in Canada and Australia.
It’s very convenient. Go to a developed country, make money, get citizenship and bash the very country you choose to take the passport. The moment things become better in Canada they will be the first to run back. It’s just a temporary phase where the country is in a recession.
I don’t think it is temporary. The situation in canada is due to corruption in the government. They purposely design stupid immigration policies. They are running an immigration and real estate Ponzi scheme. There is no real development or substantial economic activity in canada to justify the high cost of living. This decline started atleast 10 years ago and I don’t see it magically reversing without intentional public policy changes. There is too much monopoly of business in canada. Multi culturism is a failure in canada.
Does the host even vet the people getting interviewed? Lot of data mentioned here is wrong.. I am in US, you cannot fly from NY to San Francisco for $50.. it’s same $500-700.. also he is hating on lot of folks
Have you talked to people from Russia, Mexico, China, etc. As long as you can understand and speak at reasonable level, you will do just fine. I have so many Chinese colleagues(working in big-tec) whose English isn't better than 6th grade kid from India but they are doing just fine.
I agree....I am surprised how and where he got work permit......it is a case of sour grapes for Santosh. I am in Canada since 2004....it is never easy for any new immigrant and you have to be patient and improve your communication skills for progress in career. No other option .....hence he returned
@@Gaurav-kt9zt ..then Santosh must not claim in the interview he returned because there were no opportunities to grow and improve his income and standard of living. He kept on claiming that he wanted passport to travel the world. A truer picture will emerge if after 1 or 2 years, Santosh is again interviewed ....whether he is a loser!!!
its not half bad. He clearly mentioned he's from hindi medium. from what i have seen, he's clearly able to communicate his points/intention. He needs grammar touch that's all.
Yes, he is not very well educated on drugs which is not surprising for Indians, but let's not forget, Cannabis was treated as a hard drug in US just few years ago and could land you in Jail. In singapore, you might end up life in prison if caught with Cannabis. Unfortunately, movies and social media has made cannabis into a fashion drug and destroying the life of countless young kids. If you walk around any big city in the US, all you can smell is weed! Pathetic!
Cannabis is definitely not heroin. TG FOR THAT! have you, @Sammit, ever walked in downtown Toronto AFTER cannabis was legalized? It's full of hobos and other unwanted elements. And it stinks worse than sides of indian railway tracks in mumbai.
Utter bakwaas. For 20 years in canada I have come.accross a single guy specially in my huge friends circle have left or even planning to leave canada. You may a classic.e ample of failure in canada 😂
Thanks for sharing your perspectives. Glad to know none of your huge friends circle wants to leave Canada ( good they made that conscious decision). For sure there are lot people who moved to India from Canada, USA, other countries out of their own wish for different reasons ( kids, parents, startup, retirement, etc.,) and not because they are not successful but because they can and they decided to do that. Have a great one!
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I just came here to compliment Santosh for speaking his heart out. STUDENTS should listen to him and do due diligence. Whatever he mentioned that's completely true and people will surely understand if they are staying in US/Canada for around a decade (after that return is difficult but not impossible.) I am saying because of my 11 years experience in US and have started process of return to bangalore. All what he said is true for USA too. Hope everyone to be happy wherever they are!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and good luck with the move!! Please feel free to join WhatsApp group with other desireturn aspirants chat.whatsapp.com/Kq5POBu21mzHEDleAnN4dH
Every single thing Santhosh said in this video is right on point, and I totally agree. I've been living in Vancouver for 12 years now and those of us who missed out on buying a home before COVID feel like there's little reason to stay.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and echoing the realty in Canada.
I am living in the US for 25 years and what Santos is saying is absolutely true . US is next in line . He is a very smart guy and did his thorough research before he made the decision to move back to India . Best episode I have watched so far on this channel.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Thank you, Sanoths and Desi Return, for such a great video. It's been nearly three years since I moved to Canada, and I've had so many questions that I didn't know how to express or where to find answers. But this video has addressed all of them, and now I feel confident in planning my move back to India in the next couple of months.
Thats fantastic. Glad this video helped to get some insights and information
Complete eye openener and hatss off to santhosh who shared complete E2E details.
Thank you
Reasons for leaving Canada are clear but what India has is NOT other than I am from there.
Why to go some other country than home with family.
Just a big thanks to Santosh for talking about this and this channel for putting out such unfiltered raw and genuinely useful content :)
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As someone wrestling with this right now, I certainly intend to@@DesiReturn
I have lived in Canada 🇨🇦 for last 12 years, if you’re skilled there are many jobs in IT. I see so many smart Indians doing well.
Yes it’s expensive now but if you work hard and save you can still achieve your dreams.
FYI Hongkong people started flipping houses first in 90s Vancouver.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and perspectives
This is the case for Indians who have moved in in 7 years or less. If you have moved there 12 years ago, you moved in the golden period to move to Canada.
@@anjalidesai3630 There is no golden period. Whenever you start in a new country - for immigrants, it is a challenge. I am closely associated with the Canadian housing industry as a banker and have seen the ups and downs for the last 20 years. Willingness to persevere, patience and mental strength will help - you have to be a marathon runner not a sprinter in your outlook.
😂 what about high taxes and no doctors
@@AdityaJape Because you pay taxes, you get facilities. Family Doctor is available depending on your residence...
One thing that Santosh missed is the changing sentiments of native and naturalized Canadians towards newcomers (all nationalities). They see the newcomers more as a drain on the taxpayer than as contributors. Twitter is rife with people bad mouthing newcomers when the Canadians themselves are struggling to survive.
In my opinion, the govt seems to prioritize immigration over the welfare of citizens. Homelessness and drug usage is skyrocketing and queues outside food banks are miles long.
As Santosh pleaded, do thorough research before coming over. The mentality of "let's get there first and then we can figure it out" will lead you into a nightmare.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I’m happy he’s back in India
The most honest synopsis of living in the West. If you moved before 2000 to the West you are laughing otherwise it is not great. If I sell my house for £800k imagine the life I can have for my family!
Thanks for sharing your insights.
This is where you are completely 100% wrong. When you sell a house you don't go to a street or go to a provisional park put a tent. you have to live in other house. And when you go to buy another house it is more expensive than the house you sold. Unless you're selling everything off taking the money and going back to India and due to the currency conversion there in India you can live like a king. But in Canada if you sell the house the next house would be much higher interest rate and higher price so you'll be in a worse of condition.
Every point he said is actual reality in Canada.
Thanks for sharing your perspectives
I agree to some of the issues raised to some extent but there is a lot of exaggerated opinions here.
Writing from the US, broadly many of these issues as they pertain to housing cost and recent inflation are true. They affect lower income much more. Looks like there maybe a lot of South Asians in Canada in this situation. The better educated one is the more cushion one has against inflation and life is actually pretty good.
Man, what an honest podcast 😂. Enjoyed it.
Thanks a lot!!
What moving service did you use for moving from Canada to India?
Very honest feedback. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Can you do one more session with Santosh. He seems to have more to talk, would like to listen to him more
Yes some time soon. Thanks for watching
Bang On... I am currently in Canada and each and every single words are true... Nothing exaggerated....
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Looks like he lived in Barrie. That town is the prime example of how bad Canadian infrastructure is. Everything he’s saying, I have experienced.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
What about his kids? They want to study in Indian education system and work in an environment of India? I can assure you, answers will be surprising
Everything he said is 100% truth. Thanks for the video
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Absolutely agree with Santosh. Prospective students and parents should do their own due diligence instead of blindly believing the gold diggers who are pushing the "Canadian dream".
Stupid tiktokkers like to show off in their mustangs and teslas to their gullible viewers. But what the viewers dont know is that the Teslas, BMW's and Mercedes are delivering pizzas and doing uber when they're not filming!
Thanks for sharing your perspectives
I agree with Santosh broadly on the issues or cons side. There are pros too but I do realize this discussion on challenges need to go out to avoid people from getting attracted to thr glamo5side of things which come after years or decades. Secondly the extreme examples or points about desis buying up houses etc is to be taken witu grain of salt. The point about people buying up more houses for business or investment has been going on for decades and its broad based - people from diverse nations and continents and even locals do it. The concentration of desis in certain pockets like Brampton is what he is referring to. Just try to put this in context.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and providing additional context.
At no point in past you had 2 million people coming in every year! This has put immense strain on housing markets and made rents go up like crazy. In front of my eyes the prices of detached houses in KW have gone up from 400k to 1.2 million in a span of just 5 years. Yes people did but multiple properties to put on rent but the rental market was never this hot !
Is there a way I can connect with Santosh? Im looking to discuss about the Canada's home buying process and also about how to plan to return if I have to plan for future and specifics such as canada pension and other factors that affect the move.
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Planning to rent basment?? 😂😂😂😂
Earn money first and then say everything sucks.
If you love india , how come you went Canada in first place and why don't you come back immediately after 1 or 2 years.
And lastly you can't expect Canada or any other foreign country will fit according to your wishes.
Canada population is 4 cr
India population is 145 cr.
2000 rupees me juggi (hut) bhi nahi milagi bhai....unless and until you want to stay in dustbin.
House mortgage rates doubled, if one person loses job, then it's done deal. Grocery expenses doubled. Your full time job is paying tax. :D
Who needs a full-time job when you can just pay taxes, right? 😂
Truth / Reality of Canada
Eye opener video
Very candid conversation and thanks for watching
So what? I seriously doubt anybody cares about temporary workers leaving Canada. More leaves the better. Less pressure on housing, medical system, schooling and many other things. I am scared to drive around TO with all the new immigrant drivers.
Thank you for sharing your perspective on this matter. It's providing information for people to make decision thats appropriate for them.
Part of his problem is he tried to create India there.
You are not ready to adjust your lifestyle to the new place and expecting dal and samosa wherever u go- impossible.
I am surprised the bank does t offer fixed mortgage- the interest rate will be high for fixed so people go for flexible rate. Then when rates go high - they cry.
Inflation is everywhere after Covid . Medical waiting was like this for decades. That was not new.
One wrong information.. it was said that 16 lakhs you earn through interest in India is tax free ..actually the reality is although India won’t charge interest for NRIs but if you have PR or Australia/Canada citizenship then Australia will collect taxes on that amount ..you would need to mention foreign investment while submitting your taxes in Australia..if you don’t then Indian banks usually share this information with Australia tax authority
Thanks for sharing your inputs
I am Indian Canadian. Each and every point this person made on this video are true to the point. Canadian health care is free, but you don’t get an appointment to see the doctors. If you go to emergency care you have to wait at least 5hours. Government is too much liberal. 10 years down the line, Canada is going to see bad consequences. Native Canadians are highly against Immigration. As a result I notice lot of racism towards immigrants. Housing prices are skyrocketing. Rents are high. Moreover, there is control over rent. Bad days are ahead unless conservatives take over the government. I have hopes on Conservatives. No option. Good thing about Canada is you work hard you make more money. Clean environment. Clean roads. Food is affordable. Schools are free. There are quite a more good things about Canada.
Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts and perspectives. 🙏
US healthcare is pretty much the same - difficulty with appointments - 5 hour er waits - except you also go into medical debt
I don’t think food is affordable as of now. But yes other good points you mentioned about canada are good indeed.
My main problem with canada is the cold weather, extremely high cost of living (rent, car payments, phone, wifi, electricity, car insurance, home insurance) . After all the payments you can hardly save 10% of your salary
@@SR-mv2mf Thanks for sharing your experiences
Only rich can move out of india ...india things are very costly..
Well said!!
Hi, will there be a second part of this podcast?
Thanks,
May be in the future. Is there a specific topic that you have in mind?
@@DesiReturn The housing crisis which was discussed during the end of the video
We will follow-up on that after checking with guest.
I would like to hear Santosh's perspective on the housing crisis.
Only highly skilled people coming back
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
we need 2nd part of this
Sometime in the future about housing crisis. Keep an eye out or subscribe
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@48:07 What is he trying to say by using slave analogy? People are going to different countries for their selfish needs, is it not true?
This limited knowledge guy is full of 43:34
Exactly...it's not like someone held a gun to his head and asked him to go to canada
Completly agree, they never said STUDENTS can come and earn money you spent on college.
He is saying you need to pay tax on car for every sale, this is case every country. I am not sure about auto sale in India I know we pay registration fee again and again for each sale on houses/ lands.
I agree they should limit immigration, can improve healthcare but you can't disrespect/insult them.
cannabis is bigger than heroin?? since when? I take cannabis for depression and my aunt takes it for sleep. Its medicinal cannabis...this guy is ignorant but I agree there are inflation and jobs issues in Canada and Australia.
Actually he has a lot to say but he fell short of words. But I understand the point he is trying to make here.
Thanks for watching. Santosh is very passionate and clear about this thoughts.
@35:25 Cannabis is NOT bigger than heroine. Get your facts right.
It’s very convenient. Go to a developed country, make money, get citizenship and bash the very country you choose to take the passport. The moment things become better in Canada they will be the first to run back. It’s just a temporary phase where the country is in a recession.
I don’t think it is temporary. The situation in canada is due to corruption in the government. They purposely design stupid immigration policies. They are running an immigration and real estate Ponzi scheme. There is no real development or substantial economic activity in canada to justify the high cost of living. This decline started atleast 10 years ago and I don’t see it magically reversing without intentional public policy changes. There is too much monopoly of business in canada. Multi culturism is a failure in canada.
Stopped listening after “Cannibis is bigger than Heroin” 😂😂😂
The kind of crowd going abroad.I would say hood riddance to bad rubbish.
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Thank you for watching!
Does the host even vet the people getting interviewed? Lot of data mentioned here is wrong.. I am in US, you cannot fly from NY to San Francisco for $50.. it’s same $500-700.. also he is hating on lot of folks
you mentioned only one example..
Key point is the monopoly and lack of competition to provide better service in some sectors in Canada
Bro this guy was in canada. Please do not compare Canada and USA. I am in Canada and everything he said is 100% true.
Frustrated
How did he get to Canada with English skill like this on first place ??
Have you talked to people from Russia, Mexico, China, etc. As long as you can understand and speak at reasonable level, you will do just fine. I have so many Chinese colleagues(working in big-tec) whose English isn't better than 6th grade kid from India but they are doing just fine.
I agree....I am surprised how and where he got work permit......it is a case of sour grapes for Santosh. I am in Canada since 2004....it is never easy for any new immigrant and you have to be patient and improve your communication skills for progress in career. No other option .....hence he returned
Intra Company Transfer, no English test. Any desi IT guy can get 7 on IELTS in his sleep and that is what you need for PR.
@@Gaurav-kt9zt ..then Santosh must not claim in the interview he returned because there were no opportunities to grow and improve his income and standard of living. He kept on claiming that he wanted passport to travel the world. A truer picture will emerge if after 1 or 2 years, Santosh is again interviewed ....whether he is a loser!!!
its not half bad. He clearly mentioned he's from hindi medium. from what i have seen, he's clearly able to communicate his points/intention. He needs grammar touch that's all.
This guy is paranoid.. cannabis is not heroin..
Yes, he is not very well educated on drugs which is not surprising for Indians, but let's not forget, Cannabis was treated as a hard drug in US just few years ago and could land you in Jail. In singapore, you might end up life in prison if caught with Cannabis. Unfortunately, movies and social media has made cannabis into a fashion drug and destroying the life of countless young kids. If you walk around any big city in the US, all you can smell is weed! Pathetic!
@@MrTeslaX agreed.. Canabis is legalized now in lot of US states.. I do smell weed around here but not everywhere
Cannabis is definitely not heroin. TG FOR THAT! have you, @Sammit, ever walked in downtown Toronto AFTER cannabis was legalized? It's full of hobos and other unwanted elements. And it stinks worse than sides of indian railway tracks in mumbai.
He’s the most negative guy I have come across. He should stay in UP forever.
Utter bakwaas. For 20 years in canada I have come.accross a single guy specially in my huge friends circle have left or even planning to leave canada.
You may a classic.e ample of failure in canada
😂
Thanks for sharing your perspectives. Glad to know none of your huge friends circle wants to leave Canada ( good they made that conscious decision). For sure there are lot people who moved to India from Canada, USA, other countries out of their own wish for different reasons ( kids, parents, startup, retirement, etc.,) and not because they are not successful but because they can and they decided to do that. Have a great one!
@@DesiReturn❤
This guy is full of 43:34
#justintrudeau#canada