thanks to John Browne and Engl for the help on this (oh and Henning too) If you want to watch my journey into getting METAL! then sub here: th-cam.com/users/theguitargeek
the part about picking hard is probably the best advise you can give on getting a good rock or metal tone. Ian Scott said the same thing about it being essential for proper rhythm guitar tone, learned it from Maclomn Young
Hey! What a fantastic video and great way of explaining the proper way of achieving great rhythm metal tone. I actually just bought the Engl Fireball 25 today, excited to receive it!
Im sorry i missed the premiere Andy ❤️ Being in the room behind you in this video though, i feel like its justified this time around haha. Lovely to see Mr. Browne on you channel. You two are some amazing lads ❤️
Can confirm, super dope metal tone achievable with a very similar setup, though I expect cheaper. Same amp head with the same settings, ENGL Fireball 25, but with the matching ENGL vintage 112 cab instead of what I assume was something different used here. Instead of the Archer pedal I've got a Tube Screamer Mini dialed in the exact same way, playing an Ibanez RG 7-string with Fishmans. Super badass sound even at low volume, it's become my new default.
I've recently just found that on my Katana 50 MKII, the patches with the best Metal sound to me by far use either the Lead or the Brown channel with moderately low gain. Upping the gain just gets really ugly and overpowering fast. Liked seeing that I'm not far off judging by the knowledge shared here by John!
As much of a cliche as it is, a hell of a lot of metal tone comes from the player, tight picking and muting technique is the difference between an ungodly cacophony of flubby unwanted noise and a crispy, punchy metal tone.
Guitar is a midrange instrument. Resist the impulse to fill in the bass, with your guitar tone. In a mix with other instruments, it turns to mud. But, mostly, you need to hear it across the room, because it will sound way different from sitting in front of it tweaking the knobs.
@@TheGuitarGeek I do like that you answer your stuff. I followed you since the Single-Cut-Shootout with HP42. I even made that little bendy thing part if my warm up routine...not that my band mates like it but it kind of cracks me up. You guys are awesome, keep it up!
@@TheGuitarGeek It‘s clear to see for everybody that you love what you‘re doing. There‘s no way to fake that shine in the eyes of a genuine fascinated person. Please keep up the great work, I enjoy every minute of your content. It‘s informative, entertaining and straight up hilarious.
When using a klon type pedal to boost a high gain tone, you should add a bit of gain in the pedal to tighten things up. With the gain at zero, the pedal will act almost as a pure volume boost, which essentially is the same as using high output pickups. It does saturate more, but it won't sound as tight.
That's pretty subjective. I use OD pedal as a boost sometimes but prefer a pure guitar-amp rig. It's a bit more loose sound. My head is VHT based and they are pretty dry themselves, extra definition is not needed. And yeah, hit those strings hard!
I'm 4 minutes into the video. And i am already asking myself these questions: Does this guy ever move his head up? Is his neck just frozen into position?
@@TheGuitarGeek It caught my eye and i couldn't unsee it. I am so sorry if i sounded rude, that was not my intention at all. I was just wondering if it is a health thing or just a habit
@@TheGuitarGeek Well then thank you for your patience with me, i want to apologize for coming across as rude and impolite, that was not my intention at all. I just didn't think that far ahead. Feel free to delete my comment if you want. Have a good one. Once again, i am sorry
i think thats complete bs . Chopping harder and turn down the gain ? lmao ......recipe is simple : downtuning + cranking up the gain , eq -> raise the bass , turn down the mids , raise the treble a bit and there you go = brutal metal sound . there are different metal genres and also different sounds and there is nothing more brutal than fuckin death metal \m/ .
@@TheGuitarGeek i think alot of guitarrists are biased when it comes down to pedals . ENGL Amps are that good ,you don´t need any pedals to get a brutal sound . Crank that shit up especially when it got a built in noise gate xDDD
Tell me you learned everything you know about metal tone from Ola videos, with out telling me you learned everything you know about metal tone from Ola videos
thanks to John Browne and Engl for the help on this (oh and Henning too)
If you want to watch my journey into getting METAL! then sub here: th-cam.com/users/theguitargeek
Watching John play is always a delight. The meanest right hand in modern Metal!
the part about picking hard is probably the best advise you can give on getting a good rock or metal tone. Ian Scott said the same thing about it being essential for proper rhythm guitar tone, learned it from Maclomn Young
Great video, Andy!!
Hey Steve! Thanks man. John Browne did most of the heavy lifting 😉
I think this is the best explanation of what makes a good metal tone that I’ve ever seen. Good job chaps!
Really enjoyed this. Pretty refreshing to see someone in John, who so clearly knows what he's talking about, make it simple and to the point.
Hey! What a fantastic video and great way of explaining the proper way of achieving great rhythm metal tone. I actually just bought the Engl Fireball 25 today, excited to receive it!
That was really informative and useful. Cheers chaps.
This is exactly what I was looking for! thanks!
Im sorry i missed the premiere Andy ❤️ Being in the room behind you in this video though, i feel like its justified this time around haha. Lovely to see Mr. Browne on you channel. You two are some amazing lads ❤️
You were in there in spirit AND in the form
of being sat behind us, lurking....
lolol Andy's face is the best. It is always a treat watching browne get a great sound going
Basics of getting great tone out of an ENGL: Step 1. Turn on the amp..... there is no step 2
Can confirm, super dope metal tone achievable with a very similar setup, though I expect cheaper. Same amp head with the same settings, ENGL Fireball 25, but with the matching ENGL vintage 112 cab instead of what I assume was something different used here. Instead of the Archer pedal I've got a Tube Screamer Mini dialed in the exact same way, playing an Ibanez RG 7-string with Fishmans. Super badass sound even at low volume, it's become my new default.
I've recently just found that on my Katana 50 MKII, the patches with the best Metal sound to me by far use either the Lead or the Brown channel with moderately low gain. Upping the gain just gets really ugly and overpowering fast. Liked seeing that I'm not far off judging by the knowledge shared here by John!
Awesome video 🙏🙌🤘
sick fro dude
John is the man!
As much of a cliche as it is, a hell of a lot of metal tone comes from the player, tight picking and muting technique is the difference between an ungodly cacophony of flubby unwanted noise and a crispy, punchy metal tone.
Good video!
Thanks Janice. JB is brilliant
@@TheGuitarGeek I subbed him!
John's hands are like lightening!!! Shred speed rhythm?
Guitar is a midrange instrument. Resist the impulse to fill in the bass, with your guitar tone. In a mix with other instruments, it turns to mud. But, mostly, you need to hear it across the room, because it will sound way different from sitting in front of it tweaking the knobs.
That look on his face when he tried to A/B out the difference the boost or Tubescreamer made was too funny.
Thanks!
@@TheGuitarGeek I do like that you answer your stuff. I followed you since the Single-Cut-Shootout with HP42.
I even made that little bendy thing part if my warm up routine...not that my band mates like it but it kind of cracks me up.
You guys are awesome, keep it up!
Flow Ryan that’s great to hear man! That bend will take you far! I love what i do so to read this makes it even better!
@@TheGuitarGeek It‘s clear to see for everybody that you love what you‘re doing. There‘s no way to fake that shine in the eyes of a genuine fascinated person.
Please keep up the great work, I enjoy every minute of your content. It‘s informative, entertaining and straight up hilarious.
the message of this video is: how to get a good metal tone? have browne's right hand.
fou forget to use the volume boost on the amp !!!!!!
Yep, that‘s the BROWNE tone!
Hi great video, is he judging the sound through the studio monitors or trough a cabinet?
Through a torpedo X and a monitor speaker
@@TheGuitarGeek thank you guitar geek! I love your channel and vibe!
@@gokhan9395 you’re welcome!
🤘🏼
Metal heads strive for an amazing metal tone, although bedroom playing without anything in the mix vs in the mix with a band
When using a klon type pedal to boost a high gain tone, you should add a bit of gain in the pedal to tighten things up. With the gain at zero, the pedal will act almost as a pure volume boost, which essentially is the same as using high output pickups. It does saturate more, but it won't sound as tight.
thanks!
Really like this video.... What tuning was John in ?
Probably DADGAD which he uses almost everytime on 6 strings
Sounds better without the pedal. Boost pedals make Engls fizz. They don't need more gain.
Post malone lookin' good these days!
💙💙💙💙💙💙
That's pretty subjective. I use OD pedal as a boost sometimes but prefer a pure guitar-amp rig. It's a bit more loose sound. My head is VHT based and they are pretty dry themselves, extra definition is not needed. And yeah, hit those strings hard!
using hard gauge picks with a strong technique is how you do it...trust me
I'm 4 minutes into the video. And i am already asking myself these questions: Does this guy ever move his head up? Is his neck just frozen into position?
I’m wondering why you are asking this question?
@@TheGuitarGeek It caught my eye and i couldn't unsee it. I am so sorry if i sounded rude, that was not my intention at all. I was just wondering if it is a health thing or just a habit
It does come across as rude Simon. Maybe I’m a little sensitive today but I don’t think it’s a polite thing to ask
@@TheGuitarGeek Well then thank you for your patience with me, i want to apologize for coming across as rude and impolite, that was not my intention at all. I just didn't think that far ahead. Feel free to delete my comment if you want. Have a good one. Once again, i am sorry
@Colm Coss clumsy seems to describe it very well
the actual tone is on the john finger
This is DADGAD if anyone knows?
Dadgad half step down c#g#c#f#g#c#
too much treble,not enough gain or saturation at all
i think thats complete bs . Chopping harder and turn down the gain ? lmao ......recipe is simple : downtuning + cranking up the gain , eq -> raise the bass , turn down the mids , raise the treble a bit and there you go = brutal metal sound . there are different metal genres and also different sounds and there is nothing more brutal than fuckin death metal \m/ .
If it sounds good, it is good
@@TheGuitarGeek i think alot of guitarrists are biased when it comes down to pedals . ENGL Amps are that good ,you don´t need any pedals to get a brutal sound . Crank that shit up especially when it got a built in noise gate xDDD
less is more...disappointment...jeez.hell no.that tone definately is not metal at all.hard rock maybe.wtf...lol
Ah yes, Monuments, the famous rock band 🙃
Tell me you know nothing about metal production without telling me you know nothing about metal production.
Tell me you learned everything you know about metal tone from Ola videos, with out telling me you learned everything you know about metal tone from Ola videos
yeah i laughed my ass off at the "turn down the gain and chopping harder " part ...hilarious
Ha ha ha ha, check the token Perspex barrier! Not exactly "metal" is it? Good tone advice though.
that wasnt a good metal tone at all at th beginning...huh?