@@pablom2274 the way I like to think of his guitar playing is a drummer, a rapper and a clean singer all shoved into a guitar... In terms of how it flows...
Thats probably why he started riff hard. Cause rhythm guitar has turned into simple ridiculously uninspired bass playing but with more strings. His down picking technique and stamina are crazy. I'd love to have that on lock like he does. Working at it though.
@@brandonkeller478 couldn't agree more. Once I started learning how Browne looks at constructing a song, its really hard for me to write other ways. Its actually easier to write riff salads now, but I've always wanted to learn how to write each song like a book or an album like chapters. He does write complicated music for sure, but its unbelievably well written. He's also better at explaining it in other videos now imo. Like he knew what he wanted to say, but didn't articulate it as well.
1) Adding odd groups together to create interesting 4/4 patterns i.e. 9/8, 7/8, 7/8, 9/8 = 32 which is four bars of 4/4 2) Using the same phrase but with different articulation (tap versus picked) 3) Introduce an idea as a layer before it is played (film music, Bach, Beethoven etc) 4) Adding all the notes in or removing all the notes to create two different versions of the same riff (sub groove idea) 5) Playing your riffs in different octaves 7) Try the same riff in triplets 8) Write less music, use those ideas wisely Really great video I keep coming back to this. Thought I'd write it out to help me remember this time. Hope it helps someone else!
He is the epitome of excellence and the face of modern rock guitar. Even though he's often copied his style, technique and composition always sound unique to him
John’s use of motif or thematic song structuring is one of the most simple concepts that has had the biggest impact on my thinking about music and songwriting. Great class.
I can kind of relate. When I was younger and discovering this type of music, I was confused but also fascinated by it. If you've never been exposed to this type of playing, it can be overwhelming at first.
It still gives me the strong need to slap the crowd's faces one by one when he just asks questions, trying his best and you just can hear perfect SILENCE from them. Damn.
20:50 "You have to introduce the music before it actually fully happened" - your whole riff writing game could level up significantly if you got what he said just here alone
Ya thank god this was recorded and uploaded to that a audience could really enjoy it And cares. Cuz this crown here dont care about this man. But it is ok we love you and the internet loves you and respects your wisdom John!. You are the MAN!
I'm gonna guess most of the dudes in the crowd only play the pentatonic scale on their les Paul through a Marshall half stack while drinking a bud light. Anything outside of that is scary and weird lmao.
@Connor Fox Imagine feeling superior because you play the 7 string and someone might be scared of it HAHAHAHA truly pathetic imagine not playing a 7 string bass and a 9 string guitar
@@NeilDjents lol John Browne actually told in an interview (coffe with Ola) that he loves 6 strings guitar more than 7 strings. Btw 6 strings downtuned feels better than a 7 strings imho. and it doesn't define the music genre you are playing.
i feel like they just weren't ready for the depth of music theory he's talking about. shit idk if i was ready "pffffffttt i know a fridgian vs an alien scale" *cries*
The sad thing about all the demeaning comments about the crowd is that the commenters are the ignorant ones. While the Summit is far from NAMM size there are always several events going on at the same time. If the crowd weren't into metal they'd go to a different event. Grey hair or not, this is Germany, 2nd most metal area after Scandinavia. Many don't interact much because they know enough English to understand it, but they are not too keen on speaking it in a crowd.
If they didn't understand English, then clearly they wouldn't understand a word he is saying, therefore meaning his masterclass would be useless for them and they would leave instead of sitting listening to a man speaking gibberish...
Hey John! You’re done great in this one, again! So many awesome insights. Attended your clinic in Stuttgart and bought this guitar, both were and are great! Thanks man ,keep it up. Richard from Paris
I saw a bunch of gray hair in the crowd... probably your first issue. Then put John Browne up there and throw in futuristic guitar playing. They can't even wrap their brain around what they just saw!
@@bradhargis2261 I'm 40 and have grey hair too. All I really only listen to is the same bands you listed. So it's not generalizing but making an observation and making a humorous statement. Based on the facts presented (poor crowd response)... I think it's safe to draw a conclusion from the video the gray/grey hair in the crowd is from a much older audience. Not that they don't appreciate it but it's also not likely something they are bumping in their Cadillacs cruising down the road. Nuff said
All the ageist pricks on here need to button it...I'm nearly 60 but can appreciate what John is playing and teaching here. We're not all fuckin pipe and slippers you know! Most of the youth of today are arrogant know it alls with delusions of grandeur imo. Youth =goat blowers!!!
@@Pete_Harris Unfortunately offense cannot be given, only taken. I'm glad you were able to be enriched by his insight. Not only is he a phenomenal musician but a ridiculous producer, I encourage you to check his channel out. Not all youth are goat blowers, just most of them 🤘
Audience were very poor in the main - age young or old shouldnt be an excuse for a lack of engagement or appreciation of a top quality musician .. I am old enough to have seen some of the recognised old school greats including Holdsworth but have not stopped wanting to progress and embrace new exciting styles and players ... unfortunately many young and old get caught up in a genre / style and cant appreciate the beauty of a Joey Landreth slide line , Jeff Beck whammy harmonics and Mark Holcomb chordal / delay to name only 0.1% of the amazing guitar players we are blessed with .. Golden age for great guitar music n education - soak it up no matter what your shoe size !!
I found this both very helpful but yet very complicated for my particular playing style. Totally out of my comfort zone...which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm more of, how can you say, a Death, Morbid Angel, Incantation type of writing material and playing guitar type of guy. So, regardless of that, I'll definitely keep at trying to give your suggestions a shot.
I don’t it’s that the crowd is not interested I think their minds are blown. I grew up listen to Metallica pantera Black Sabbath etc . When I first heard meshuggah it was very alien to me but sounded incredible i remember thinking how the heck to these guys write like this. I got the same feeling when I heard Dream theater . These new guys are on a whole other level these days. Periphery monuments animals as leader etc this is the next generation of pushing the envelope and it’s amazing and inspiring some time speechless I’m left like how is this possible lol.
I love the motifs concept. you can hear that same idea from pop music to classical. Unfortunately for the crowd it's not as easy to pick up on through his music and outside the context of what they normally listen to.
All these people in the crowd don't even get what they're missing here, and none of them knew chimp spanner? that's totally lame. Still big props to John, he seemed kinda nervous at first but quickly started getting into the whole thing after playing a few riffs.
That fucking right hand holy shit. Chimpspanner is amazing and that bit about the octaves may have just solved my writers block. Shame about the crowd but maybe the concepts was too advanced for them... Who knows.
Been playing like this since I picked up a guitar and I gotta say it feels really awkward watching someone else play the same way.....no wonder everyone used to look at me like I was weird....but its good to see I'm not the only oddball out..
> has anybody tried playing the same rhythm with different melody as a song writing technique? Me, playing thrash with the same 16th note rhythm throughout the song: *bad poker face*
It is a clinic and not a concert…may be they were just soaking it in…u will see crowds in Japan go silent not because they are not into it but precisely because they are fully focused on the technical of the playing and will show the appreciation at the end of it
Old people: ugh distortion doesn't take talent / don't care about this music Me. someone with common sense: this is way more technical playing than anyone they look up to. get rekt
D3GKRyan What irks me is the asumption that this can’t be played with ”feel”. On the flipside, you’re not playing with ”feel” because you bend a note on a strat connected to a delay pedal.
@@fredriksvard2603 agreed even though that's me 100% because im not technical or skilled enough lmao. Jason Richardson is probably my biggest inspiration though, or cole rolland
I feel he is not comfortable with the way he is carrying the guitar, even though he is bc why not he is John browne. But the way he is lifting the guitar as if it the headstock is slowlu tilting.
I have a few 6 string Duvell's and the neck dive is kinda whack on a $3k+ guitar. They need to move the strap pin to the tip of the horn, it would solve the issue entirely.
Some of this is a lotta bullshit. It sounds like a bunch rhythm. Not saying I can come remotely close but damn I swear he repeated some bars like 15 times
'I guess you guys aren't ready for that, yet. But your kids are gonna love it.'
Best line ever😀... M.J. Fox became a legend because of those movies
"Hi my name is John Browne, I play rhythm guitar... "
Well his rhythm is way more lead than I'll ever play hahaha.
He's using rhythm gear duh
@@pablom2274 the way I like to think of his guitar playing is a drummer, a rapper and a clean singer all shoved into a guitar... In terms of how it flows...
Thats probably why he started riff hard. Cause rhythm guitar has turned into simple ridiculously uninspired bass playing but with more strings. His down picking technique and stamina are crazy. I'd love to have that on lock like he does. Working at it though.
Michael Inglis really? I hear people noodling and making riff salads lately. People are overplaying on rhythm parts in the metal scene these days.
@@brandonkeller478 couldn't agree more. Once I started learning how Browne looks at constructing a song, its really hard for me to write other ways. Its actually easier to write riff salads now, but I've always wanted to learn how to write each song like a book or an album like chapters.
He does write complicated music for sure, but its unbelievably well written. He's also better at explaining it in other videos now imo. Like he knew what he wanted to say, but didn't articulate it as well.
1) Adding odd groups together to create interesting 4/4 patterns i.e. 9/8, 7/8, 7/8, 9/8 = 32 which is four bars of 4/4
2) Using the same phrase but with different articulation (tap versus picked)
3) Introduce an idea as a layer before it is played (film music, Bach, Beethoven etc)
4) Adding all the notes in or removing all the notes to create two different versions of the same riff (sub groove idea)
5) Playing your riffs in different octaves
7) Try the same riff in triplets
8) Write less music, use those ideas wisely
Really great video I keep coming back to this. Thought I'd write it out to help me remember this time. Hope it helps someone else!
where is 6? xD
@@AlexisGitarre we playing off beat meshuggah bullet points we miss 6 out 😂
legend
Such a shame the crowd isn’t more responsive, he is giving out some big secrets here!
They´re probably German XD
DAMN, I was at the Summit and didn't even realize John was there!
@@mo3225-c8r Why is that?
Crowd : “so are you gonna show us how to play smoke on the water ?”
13:30
*dude in the crowd* - “Bwooooo” (human pinch harmonic) lmao
it's the best fucking part
Should have played some generic 12 bar blues licks. They'd have loved that.
joe namredla It’s a good thing these kind of guys realize that’s not the default style. Maybe we can get gear reviews without blues crap one day.
I bet that they absorbed more from those 3 seconds where he played the lick of Layla than all the other 28 mins of this session.
You'd have the same reaction as them if a guitarist at a clinic played blues..
He is the epitome of excellence and the face of modern rock guitar. Even though he's often copied his style, technique and composition always sound unique to him
he loves doxa, always playing it haha
who doesnt love it
I think it also best demonstrates the down picking technique he incorporates in his playing
John’s use of motif or thematic song structuring is one of the most simple concepts that has had the biggest impact on my thinking about music and songwriting. Great class.
I can kind of relate. When I was younger and discovering this type of music, I was confused but also fascinated by it. If you've never been exposed to this type of playing, it can be overwhelming at first.
It still gives me the strong need to slap the crowd's faces one by one when he just asks questions, trying his best and you just can hear perfect SILENCE from them. Damn.
They are generally not too strong in English.
20:50 "You have to introduce the music before it actually fully happened" - your whole riff writing game could level up significantly if you got what he said just here alone
JB: "Sounds difficult doesn't it? Its not"
Me: Picks up guitar and says ok, I got this.
No...... I do not have it
That crowd’s so old they were probably too focused on trying to figure out what he needs the extra string for to listen to what he’s saying.
Stephen Larson They’re waiting for SRV ”licks”
Fredrik Svärd Stevie never licked anyone.... except maybe his girlfriends?
Anyone humble enough to teach is a great guitarist in my eyes. Just because it’s starts with being a great person. Good job brother.
Ya thank god this was recorded and uploaded to that a audience could really enjoy it And cares. Cuz this crown here dont care about this man. But it is ok we love you and the internet loves you and respects your wisdom John!. You are the MAN!
He's such a clean player, it's amazing!
Also very good at breaking down and explaining the stuff he's doing - awesome Masterclass!
jesus that crowd, why weren't they following what he said, it made perfect sense!
21:50 from atlas to origin, brilliant!
What a phenomenal talent John Browne is wow!
I'm gonna guess most of the dudes in the crowd only play the pentatonic scale on their les Paul through a Marshall half stack while drinking a bud light. Anything outside of that is scary and weird lmao.
Francis I agree! Those are the boomer attitude i hate!
@Connor Fox Imagine feeling superior because you play the 7 string and someone might be scared of it HAHAHAHA truly pathetic imagine not playing a 7 string bass and a 9 string guitar
@@NeilDjents lol John Browne actually told in an interview (coffe with Ola) that he loves 6 strings guitar more than 7 strings. Btw 6 strings downtuned feels better than a 7 strings imho. and it doesn't define the music genre you are playing.
i feel like they just weren't ready for the depth of music theory he's talking about. shit idk if i was ready "pffffffttt i know a fridgian vs an alien scale" *cries*
yep even fake musicians can jam to a I IV V progression
The sad thing about all the demeaning comments about the crowd is that the commenters are the ignorant ones. While the Summit is far from NAMM size there are always several events going on at the same time. If the crowd weren't into metal they'd go to a different event. Grey hair or not, this is Germany, 2nd most metal area after Scandinavia. Many don't interact much because they know enough English to understand it, but they are not too keen on speaking it in a crowd.
If they didn't understand English, then clearly they wouldn't understand a word he is saying, therefore meaning his masterclass would be useless for them and they would leave instead of sitting listening to a man speaking gibberish...
@@j4ckfl4sh2000 Can you read? If so, maybe try to actually read my comment.
@@j4ckfl4sh2000 Listening and speaking skills are totally separate. Have you ever taken any language class before?
Great class i'm glad i caught this!! This guy is completely new to me but i definetly want to hear more.Rock on!!
Browne you are amazing!!.Tour U.S.A 2019 please.
It's happening, 2020
Well... The 2022 US tour has been great 🤘😁👍
Iowa 9/16th /2022
@@franzposcher8741 enjoy, it was awesome
Hey John! You’re done great in this one, again! So many awesome insights. Attended your clinic in Stuttgart and bought this guitar, both were and are great! Thanks man ,keep it up. Richard from Paris
This man is brilliant... love his realism.
Lol at that crowd
New appreciation for his writing. Great vid!
Crazy how much easier it is watching him play it than trying to play it yourselfl ol
It actually doesn't look easy at all! ^^ the right hand movement is absolutely mental!
Browne style is so cool. Can't help but to ba' ba-ba' bang my head. How can one stay sit to this..
Such simple ideas but none i never really thought of. Gonna try these
Those riffs will eat you up like a giant monster
pure gold
Fahq! That right hand is insane!!!!😢😢
this guy's picking is amazing
Would love if we had vids like this on his channel.
Blown away incredible playing
first video I've ever seen with no dislike on :O! JB is a beastttt!!
that is an interesting right hand technique...I like it!
That pick control 🔥🔥
I saw a bunch of gray hair in the crowd... probably your first issue. Then put John Browne up there and throw in futuristic guitar playing. They can't even wrap their brain around what they just saw!
What little hair I have is grey hair but I love music like monuments, periphery, tesseract, novelists. Don't generalize people my dude.
@@bradhargis2261 I'm 40 and have grey hair too. All I really only listen to is the same bands you listed. So it's not generalizing but making an observation and making a humorous statement. Based on the facts presented (poor crowd response)... I think it's safe to draw a conclusion from the video the gray/grey hair in the crowd is from a much older audience. Not that they don't appreciate it but it's also not likely something they are bumping in their Cadillacs cruising down the road. Nuff said
In 2-3 years the guys in Periphery are also 40.
Futuristic, this style is a novelty, is going to die soon...
@David Stoker ??? Stared like 10 years ago.. that's not decades ( plural).. 😂😂
Amazing Masterclass, would've asked a ton of questions in the window
this man is a legend
Love John's riffs!
I actually found this useful.
But then ive just started to really get into wanting to play more of this style stuff
A majestic beast. 5:59
Poor Browne playing Clapton to appeal to that audience esp after that underwhelming applause. Still professional as always with amazing info.
All the ageist pricks on here need to button it...I'm nearly 60 but can appreciate what John is playing and teaching here. We're not all fuckin pipe and slippers you know! Most of the youth of today are arrogant know it alls with delusions of grandeur imo. Youth =goat blowers!!!
@@Pete_Harris Unfortunately offense cannot be given, only taken. I'm glad you were able to be enriched by his insight. Not only is he a phenomenal musician but a ridiculous producer, I encourage you to check his channel out. Not all youth are goat blowers, just most of them 🤘
Audience were very poor in the main - age young or old shouldnt be an excuse for a lack of engagement or appreciation of a top quality musician .. I am old enough to have seen some of the recognised old school greats including Holdsworth but have not stopped wanting to progress and embrace new exciting styles and players ... unfortunately many young and old get caught up in a genre / style and cant appreciate the beauty of a Joey Landreth slide line , Jeff Beck whammy harmonics and Mark Holcomb chordal / delay to name only 0.1% of the amazing guitar players we are blessed with ..
Golden age for great guitar music n education - soak it up no matter what your shoe size !!
Pete Harris now you’re being ageist
@@Pete_Harris ok boomer
High in my top 5 of modern metal players. I think he could be a great stand up commedian as well 😊
dope. thanks for the upload
Fuck, thank you for this. I struggle to write engaging parts, this is gold for me. I can't wait to try when I get home.
Wow ..just wow ..where do I go to learn this technique …so fuckin amazing …JB genius bro bad ass
Whattta Legend
I hope someday to have the same level of patience John had with the boomers in this video.
What a fucking master
I found this both very helpful but yet very complicated for my particular playing style.
Totally out of my comfort zone...which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I'm more of, how can you say, a Death, Morbid Angel, Incantation type of writing material and playing guitar type of guy.
So, regardless of that, I'll definitely keep at trying to give your suggestions a shot.
John is dropping knowledge and these dummies in the crowd have no idea.
he should have tried speaking german
I don’t it’s that the crowd is not interested
I think their minds are blown. I grew up listen to Metallica pantera Black Sabbath etc . When I first heard meshuggah it was very alien to me but sounded incredible i remember thinking how the heck to these guys write like this. I got the same feeling when I heard Dream theater . These new guys are on a whole other level these days. Periphery monuments animals as leader etc this is the next generation of pushing the envelope and it’s amazing and inspiring some time speechless I’m left like how is this possible lol.
I love the motifs concept. you can hear that same idea from pop music to classical. Unfortunately for the crowd it's not as easy to pick up on through his music and outside the context of what they normally listen to.
i would have killed to be there - what a shit crowd. JB is the best in the business
All these people in the crowd don't even get what they're missing here, and none of them knew chimp spanner? that's totally lame. Still big props to John, he seemed kinda nervous at first but quickly started getting into the whole thing after playing a few riffs.
Talented musician with great ear for tone.. John Browne next time hit em with" Is this an audience.. or a painting??"
OMG... I think JB has the right hand of God. :D
That fucking right hand holy shit. Chimpspanner is amazing and that bit about the octaves may have just solved my writers block. Shame about the crowd but maybe the concepts was too advanced for them... Who knows.
Doxa looks exactly as nuts as I imagined it would.
Been playing like this since I picked up a guitar and I gotta say it feels really awkward watching someone else play the same way.....no wonder everyone used to look at me like I was weird....but its good to see I'm not the only oddball out..
Sure you have
@@ryanwise2556 stop projecting your insecurities onto random people you don't know.
> has anybody tried playing the same rhythm with different melody as a song writing technique?
Me, playing thrash with the same 16th note rhythm throughout the song: *bad poker face*
RIGHT HAND OF GOD
With this crowd you gotta stick to smoke on the water.
I think I make the mistake of not being able to always do diff... octove cause my note knowledge is lacking.
A shame the recording quality lets this down.
What is the jazz+Guthrie Govan type of guy he mentioned? I couldn't catch the name :(
Chimp Spanner is the artist he mentioned
What's the signal chain here?
anyone know his 7 string tuning?
Jupiter Down I pretty sure they alternate between g# and b
From low to high the structure is D A D G A D G... Its the structure no the tuning but this simplifies it
BbFBbEbFBbEb (low to high) is what they usually tune to, however Doxa and Atlas take the low string to Ab whilst the rest remain the same
I see Post Malone hasn't missed a single guitar lesson since he left the rap game. Good for him, he shreds hard af now!
How the fuck does this place not blow when doxa drops lmfao
He has legs??? never seen him standing up
It is a clinic and not a concert…may be they were just soaking it in…u will see crowds in Japan go silent not because they are not into it but precisely because they are fully focused on the technical of the playing and will show the appreciation at the end of it
Crowd is beige/10
This is fantastic song writing advice.
All these boomers are too busy wondering why he has a 7 string.
Does he ever say who is influencers are ?
Hans Zimmer, Ion Dissonance etc
That man on the shirt must be asking himself wtf is he doing there haha
"He isnt playing with any feel!!!!!!!!!!" probably the crowd
I see the Black Spirit (HK)
More people responded when he mentioned Dream Theater... which means the crowd was full of old people listening to "dad rock" music
i never know post malone pahys guitar
Tough crowd
"Focused on down picking"... I'd say so
"So, no filming."
Continues to film...
He said he’d wait until the album’s release, and he did.
Not to mention Browne had already done a playthrough of Stygian Blue
Hagrid with a Duvell
Old people: ugh distortion doesn't take talent / don't care about this music
Me. someone with common sense: this is way more technical playing than anyone they look up to. get rekt
D3GKRyan What irks me is the asumption that this can’t be played with ”feel”. On the flipside, you’re not playing with ”feel” because you bend a note on a strat connected to a delay pedal.
@@fredriksvard2603 agreed even though that's me 100% because im not technical or skilled enough lmao. Jason Richardson is probably my biggest inspiration though, or cole rolland
I feel he is not comfortable with the way he is carrying the guitar, even though he is bc why not he is John browne. But the way he is lifting the guitar as if it the headstock is slowlu tilting.
I have a few 6 string Duvell's and the neck dive is kinda whack on a $3k+ guitar. They need to move the strap pin to the tip of the horn, it would solve the issue entirely.
No need to play melody if I play ryhtrm like that....im already stuffed,🤣
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obligatory right hand comment
Sing no more when you create guitar.
Some of this is a lotta bullshit. It sounds like a bunch rhythm. Not saying I can come remotely close but damn I swear he repeated some bars like 15 times
I'm not liking this