Some interesting background to "why" it is labeled the way it is. I was the manager of a California tackle retailer back just before this line was released in the 1980's, and the Berkley people surveyed a number of such fishing tackle industry members about their upcoming new line [the name had not yet been chosen]. The question was: Should the new line be labeled close to the the exact breaking strength, which could then be marketed as "extremely thin"? "OR" should it be marketed using the standard line diameters of the day, and be marketed as "extremely strong", but with the same diameter as other lines? Overwhelmingly, the tackle dealers said that the line should be kept at the "standard" diameters, which would allow the [accurate] claim of being extremely strong.
That's really interesting! One hypothesis I can think of why the public want the diameter to be the standardized parameter is that the diameter predicts how long you can spool, which is the actual consideration of both fishermen and retailers; while the breaking strength is a parameter no body really wants to test in field, as long as it is at least the labeled one.
So glad I found this. I got my dad some 15# sunline mono to try instead of his usual 15# big game. I got cussed out good for him breaking fish off and loosing some good baits with it, LOL. Apparently, he was using 22# line the whole time before. Explains a lot.
Love you videos man! keep it up. I wish you include the measured mm diameter in the video and description because in my opinion, measured diameter vs breaking strength is the actual measurement of which line brand is the strongest; and I say measured mm diameter because some brands lie about the diameter too :)
Exactly what I thought. I primarily use Berkeley Big Game; 12lb & 15lb. I got some 20lb for big swim baits, but I don’t think I need it after watching this. I’m not fishing around thick heavy cover. I fish for largemouth bass. I believe 15lb is sufficient. Good luck Dan. 👍🏼🎣😎
The breakpoint is interesting but what I found the most interesting is the stretch of the line. For my own use, I found the J-Braid line worked best for me. I am able to use it for both bigger fish like the lingcod and for crab snaring. I do use the mono for all my freshwater fishing.
I tried Berkly Big Game Braided line in 20 lb test. I couldn't get it to load test and lift even 15lbs. I used a 20 and 15lb. weight to test it. I lifted it up slowly and carefully also. The line did not break at the knot. The knot didn't slip either.
Please consider doing a full breaking strength test series on Suffix Superior Monofilament Line that's what I use now and I would really appreciate it if you could run those tests.
That's why I always compare line by diameter, not lb test! In Europe (I live in Portugal) most people compare line by diameter. If I use one line of a given diameter, if I'm going to buy a line of another brand I choose a line of the same diameter, not the same lb test. Lb test may mean nothing... The companies put what they want as lb test. What I look for is diameter and if I have that information I'll look to the actual breaking strength when comparing lines. With that said, Trilene Big Game is my favorite line for everything. I've always used 15lb test for swimbaits, even 8" Hudds, because I knew the diameter was almost the same as some 20lb line from other brands and it felt really stronger than most 15lb lines.... Never had a break... 15lb test Big Game has a diameter just over the diameter of 17lb Seaguar AbrazX Fluorocarbon but actually breaks at 23lb.
Ha! You are right - that spool didn’t come in my order - not sure what happened! I have one coming tomorrow, so I will update that result in the description :)
Anthony, I found a 40lb spool - just now tested it and it comes in at 50.8 lbs of breaking strength. I’ll post a video shortly. Thanks for the heads-up.
Some interesting background to "why" it is labeled the way it is. I was the manager of a California tackle retailer back just before this line was released in the 1980's, and the Berkley people surveyed a number of such fishing tackle industry members about their upcoming new line [the name had not yet been chosen]. The question was: Should the new line be labeled close to the the exact breaking strength, which could then be marketed as "extremely thin"? "OR" should it be marketed using the standard line diameters of the day, and be marketed as "extremely strong", but with the same diameter as other lines? Overwhelmingly, the tackle dealers said that the line should be kept at the "standard" diameters, which would allow the [accurate] claim of being extremely strong.
That's really interesting! One hypothesis I can think of why the public want the diameter to be the standardized parameter is that the diameter predicts how long you can spool, which is the actual consideration of both fishermen and retailers; while the breaking strength is a parameter no body really wants to test in field, as long as it is at least the labeled one.
Wow! Great information
This line overall seems very consistent often breaking right at the estimate. Understated label, but consistently understated. Thanks!
it's also one of the thicker lines, so strength to diameter might not be so far off.
Thanks for doing the tests. Good to know their actual break strength. Now I feel more comfortable using lighter lines. I prefer mono over braids.
Thank you brother, that's an 'exhaustive' study, for sure ! 🇺🇸 🙏 🎖
So glad I found this. I got my dad some 15# sunline mono to try instead of his usual 15# big game. I got cussed out good for him breaking fish off and loosing some good baits with it, LOL. Apparently, he was using 22# line the whole time before. Explains a lot.
Needed this - thanks.
Thanks for doing these type of videos
Love you videos man! keep it up. I wish you include the measured mm diameter in the video and description because in my opinion, measured diameter vs breaking strength is the actual measurement of which line brand is the strongest; and I say measured mm diameter because some brands lie about the diameter too :)
By far my favorite line..i use 8lb 12lb an 20lb
Finally line strength test
You are the God of Money
Thanks for the vid art. Always good to see the specs.
Thanks for doing the tests 🙏🏿
In any situation we use the knot only we need knot test please
Excellent!! I know have more faith in my 15lb. Mono! New sub!
Exactly what I thought. I primarily use Berkeley Big Game; 12lb & 15lb. I got some 20lb for big swim baits, but I don’t think I need it after watching this. I’m not fishing around thick heavy cover. I fish for largemouth bass. I believe 15lb is sufficient. Good luck Dan. 👍🏼🎣😎
The breakpoint is interesting but what I found the most interesting is the stretch of the line. For my own use, I found the J-Braid line worked best for me. I am able to use it for both bigger fish like the lingcod and for crab snaring. I do use the mono for all my freshwater fishing.
I tried Berkly Big Game Braided line in 20 lb test. I couldn't get it to load test and lift even 15lbs. I used a 20 and 15lb. weight to test it. I lifted it up slowly and carefully also. The line did not break at the knot. The knot didn't slip either.
I had the same results, Trilene Big Game, Power pro Daiwa, Sunline-ALL BROKE UNDER THEIR TEST! Not sure if his results are acccurate
Great video
Would you say that Big Game is the strongest Mono you have tested?
I use big game for everything from wels catfish to uk sea fish and I love it highly recommend
Please consider doing a full breaking strength test series on Suffix Superior Monofilament Line that's what I use now and I would really appreciate it if you could run those tests.
Can you please do with with sufix elite/advance line? All lbs?
About to spool up all 20 lb line.
awesome content, do you have plans to test Maxima Ultragreen?
That's why I always compare line by diameter, not lb test! In Europe (I live in Portugal) most people compare line by diameter. If I use one line of a given diameter, if I'm going to buy a line of another brand I choose a line of the same diameter, not the same lb test. Lb test may mean nothing... The companies put what they want as lb test. What I look for is diameter and if I have that information I'll look to the actual breaking strength when comparing lines. With that said, Trilene Big Game is my favorite line for everything. I've always used 15lb test for swimbaits, even 8" Hudds, because I knew the diameter was almost the same as some 20lb line from other brands and it felt really stronger than most 15lb lines.... Never had a break... 15lb test Big Game has a diameter just over the diameter of 17lb Seaguar AbrazX Fluorocarbon but actually breaks at 23lb.
Have you ever tried their Trilene XL mono? Suppose to cast smoother with less twists.
Doesn't it come down to Line Diameter? You can get the XT which is just bigger diameter line vs XL.
Do these estimates change when the line is wet?
I would like to see you do that and braided fishing line
So what is the best line for the money
Can you list the diameters in inches?
Can you try zebco line?
Have you tried ANDE MONSTER mono?
Thanks. 💯
I wonder how the trilene XT would compare to the big game?
Please Sir, could you test some light monofilament line like Berkely Sensation 4 lb may e Suffix Advance 4 lb .if you can , thanks
what happened to 60lb
Forgot 40#. Better retest them all 😁
Ha! You are right - that spool didn’t come in my order - not sure what happened! I have one coming tomorrow, so I will update that result in the description :)
Anthony, I found a 40lb spool - just now tested it and it comes in at 50.8 lbs of breaking strength. I’ll post a video shortly. Thanks for the heads-up.
@@analyticangling6715 What about the 20 vs 25. was the 25 incorectly labeled or the 20?
Same strength +/- ,the 25 lb. is just 'thicker' in tests, I believe. 👍
Nice test, What is the name of the tool you use and how much does it cost ?
What happens to 40 pound
Where can I find that pink color in 8lb ?
ANDE (w. German made) does. 👍
So whatever did you find out with the 20 and 25lb issue? Was one or the other mis-labeled or was the test accurate?
Thank you for this great info. I will stick with Trilene mono. If you can, compare it to fluoro. the pros swear by fluoro.
Is this line test or knot test strength? You never stated this on the vid 👍
main line strength, not knot strength (yet)
Will you please tell how much load in kg takes 8 lb ....
8lb=3.6 kg will break at 5.443 kg
No40 pound test
Should be tested under water..