Noticed in part one that she was doing the full body petting. >.< Being a seasoned viewer, I was cringing so hard at my TV. Kudos for you guys for being so patient with the owner. Probably a good thing she didn't understand the ADHD question. Poor Dave was getting petty irritated, lol. PS: If someone could add captions to the windy parts near the end, that would be really helpful and appreciated. ❤️
I've none stop commented on Caroline videos about proper training and the hormonal stress she is putting her birds. And instead of reading the advise she makes another video about how she deals with "Haters". Glory is 100% trainable its just Caroline that is messing up the training (she even made a video saying she was getting rid of glory! after only a month of having her!) Honesty I feel bad for glory, having an owner that is more interested in views than the well being of her birds) I don't hate Caroline I have just lost all faith in her as a "Professional parrot trainer"(as she calls herself)
I did watch Carolyne a few times but I quit because I felt not at ease with her and not wanting to be negative I quit. I am so glad that you are helping her, I just hope she will listen and that what you are teaching her will sink in. I think she is a very good person with a will to succeed.
Mimi I did the same thing. I just couldn’t handle watching her and all the mistakes she was making with her birds and then the wrong info she was giving to her viewers.
I'm really happy you're sharing this session with us. I am surprised that Caroline isn't allowing Glory (and maybe the rest of her birds) full 12hr sleep time. This was one of the first things I learned from Marlene's videos. Love your videos as I'm learning so much from you. Thank you so much.
Laila Baloch it’s not that she isn’t “allowing”...seriously we all have our own routine & Carolin has her best intentions for her birds. The important fact is we all strive to be better parronts. 💕
Loveyourparrot Education thank you for showing here all the things she is doing that is creating this regurgitate and mating behavior. Please Caroline listen to all warm soft food is a big0 when it comes to her hormonal behavior
@@loveyourparrot_ we all have routines. Having any type of pet you must know the bare basics. Would you apply the same routine if it was an infant? I was just surprised that Caroline wasn't allowing Glory to have more sleep. Don't get me wrong I love that Caroline free flies her birds. Also, that she loves her birds. Research is so important before we acquire a pet of any type.
I actually had unsubscribed from Caroline because I was getting frustrated at the way she treated Glory; it was very obvious Glory thought and behaved Caroline as her mate, but instead of realizing this, Caroline just decided Glory was too aggressive and blamed her behavior on Glory's previous owner, implying he was abusive towards Glory when he was not. On one hand, it was somewhat understandable; Caroline's other parrots did not show hormonal behavior towards humans, only other parrots, so Caroline was inexperienced with a bird that found humans sexually attractive. On the other hand, she made a video saying she was going to sell Glory despite the fact that the bird was given to her for free! by someone who trusted her to give her a good life. I said as much in several of her videos and as a final straw. I don't know if she just missed my comment because I was the only one or if she just wasn't listening and had made her mind up (a bad habit of hers) but here we are. And I don't even own birds (yet), I just had watched enough videos from around birdtube to figure out that hey, if a bird constantly wants to be on you, gets aggressively jealous of other birds, and screams when you are absent - yeah that bird most likely thinks you're her mate. I'm glad Caroline decided not to sell Glory (which would have DEVASTATED her) and finally listened that Glory was not a problem bird, she was just getting the wrong signals.
I had seen a video of hers where marlene visited her house and I was surprised at the chaos/easily was able to observe she was petting her bird in all the wrong ways. I'm also surprised that considering all the birds that she has that she wouldn't know these things, its shocking and scary to realize people have all these parrots but don't actually know that they require 12 hours of sleep or to not give them soft warm foods (I felt like these were basics) and for someone to own the number of parrots she does I would've expected more experience.
I’ve seen a couple of her videos and despite her own “human training” even I don’t think parrots are really her thing :/ whether she wants it to be or not. Until consorting with bird tricks, at times it seems like she has had no prior experience or research before or during having them and has just been winging it the whole time. And honestly.. just her in general bugs me I remember her video titled people trying to steal my macaw and it was her macaw flying up into a tree her pretending he wasn’t hers and trying to coax the other people into getting him down like.. why? 🤦♀️
@@unicornwizhez4115 I agree. For one thing she has no clue on parrot body language and has 2 of the largest beaks of the parrot world basically in her face a lot of the time. And she communicates to all 3 of her macaws that she is their mate. And often she shoves them together when they don't want to be near each other. It's a recipe for disaster. As a matter fact Glory bit a hole in Love's beak,when she put them together in a crate. It is baffling that she didn't know any better,when she saw how aggressive Glory was, and knew she was used to being by herself with the other ppl for so many years. I really feel like you need to be prepared and have the right type of personality to keep parrots esp large parrots. And she doesn't have it.
Do you have ADHD? I have a HD camera, lol. I never laughed so hard. I am sure I have ADHD as I have a hard time listening and interrupt too much. You can do it Caroline! It was funny when Dave through the Target and was going to give up, lol. Can't wait until the next episode.
If you watch her video after part 1 she has continued doing what you said not to do feeding Mac nuts as food and not treats and petting her over her whole body
A lot of great information here that I’m learning from (I’ll call myself a “someday” parrot parent). From sleep to diet to hormones to what you need to even start a training session! Caroline is really listening though- She summarized and taught back the changes to make for preventing hormonal behavior 👍🏻.
I have the birdtricks clicker in red lol...came with taming, training and tricks. I didn't even have a bird back then. Just something my dad bought. I only got a bird last year and was happy to come across the DVD and clicker.
That girl is literally just not listening or taking this seriously at all, the ADHD comment was spot on! She needs to put her ego aside so she can help her beautiful bird
For someone who has this that many parrots I am seriously concerned that she doesn't have a better diet for her birds... Especially a large breed that flies... I'm not the pellet police but I do believe in a rounded diet ... And her not even having a good recall, I just don't think I'd ever bring my bird out till I had that down... But I guess maybe she never knew that she wasn't great at it. I also couldn't watch her videos cause I would cringe at the amount of times she had to yell for her bird to come back...
I saw a few vids of Caroline and Glory and I thought this person is triggering her bird's hormonal behaviors and possessiveness as she won't recognize her mistakes and let her bird decide for her. She doesn't seem to take y'all advices seriously and it's frustrating to watch. Hats off to you guys for your patience, I wouldn't be so tolerant. Lol
Too many distractions outside! LOL. Yes, I bet tonight in a less distracting setting with help Glory learn more easily. I hope that Caroline will be able to help Glory because she is such a precious bird! I love that Dave and Jamieleigh train with positive reinforcement only. It's wonderful and the only way to go for training birds and other animals. Love and big hugs, Barb, Baby, Beenie :)
Sometimes with a language barrier too many words is simply too many words. Would be better to not over explain. You have a willing heartfelt client who only wants to do what’s best. Maybe you just say 1. 12 hours of sleep, 2. Correct diet. 3. Don’t pet your bird like this. 4 we will show you what we want in target practice with our bird. 5. set her up for success. Do it indoors, make sure bird is hungry. Not ok to blame student for not understanding unclear over explained directions. You said bird was tired so wait. When the student doesn’t understand it is always laid at the feet of the teacher. The teachers job is to figure out what the student is understanding and help them. You did great by waiting to regroup.
Wow, so helpful. I do have a question. Is her screaming good job to loud another reason why her bird screams too wanting attention or mimicking her? Just curious.
Glory was locked up in her cage, behind a closed door for a very long time. Her previous owner didn't give the bird any attention. So this bird stayed in her cage, in her own room, behind a closed door and she screamed for attention. When Carolin picked her up, she has been screaming uncontrollably and constantly since that day. That's all Glory knows how to do. Glory is now afraid of losing Carolin. So she is jealous of even humans. I don't believe it's hormonal. This bird is very scarred and going to take a miracle to fix. Glory would be fine if Carolin had only one bird, Glory and if Carolin could give her all her time.. But that's not gonna happen. Carolin has 5 other birds.
@@outoftime7740 Giving her all the time the bird wants to have is no solution. There are just so many things to improve there and there IS a hormonal issue, nobody can deny it. It's definitely doable to make Carolin a good bird Trainer and Glory a bird without behavorial issues since it's very obvious, that Glory thinks that Carolin is her mate. After or if they solved that problem their situation will improve.
@@j.7658 The bird is almost 30 years old. Males and female birds will give you their food. It's nature for them to do this. If they care about the person or care about something they like. It's getting fed. That's not hormonal. That's instincts and their nature. Now that Carolin saved Glory from her hell. Glory is afraid to lose Carolin. That's all Glory cares about is Carolin, no one else. Everyone else she hates because she was abused.
@@outoftime7740 I don't think that you are completely right, but we'll see how Jamie and Dave solve it and see afterwards if Glory is still.. "afraid of losing Carolin". Pretty sure they already trained birds like Glory. And that she is so jealous and wants Carolin for her own is the result of making the bird think you are his partner. Now if she stops triggering the hormonal behaviour and with Jamie's and Dave's help Glory will be as great as all the other birds Jamie and Dave trained. Whatever. We will see in the following videos.
@@outoftime7740 the biggest issue here is the owner and not the bird. Carolin has to be trained and when Carolin changes her bird will too. Because Carolin is the source of problems. If the bird would be given to Jamie and Dave now for example Glory would become a whole new bird!
We know you two can work magic but Caroline is like beyond even professor Dumbledorf , if she's not serious enough to to pay attention to help you are giving her bird and flock will suffer, maybe the training session needs to be indoors and away from distractions were the attention can be more focused ?
How can she not know birds need 12 hrs of sleep...Caroline has a you tube channel...seriously not knowing some things they taught her and she tries to give info on her channel...thanks but I will stick with Dave and Jamie
Having a TH-cam channel doesn’t mean you actually know what you’re talking about and Caroline is a perfect example. She acts as an “expert” but she puts out a lot of bad and potentially dangerous misinformation. Yes this is old but the scary thing is she has gotten worse over the years. She is the worst!
Is part 1 available anywhere else as I notice it's been made private now? I find myself becoming increasingly frustrated with the way Carolin is with her birds (most recently, losing Love up a tree during a free flight and clickbaiting it for nearly a week), so this was really interesting to watch. Kudos to you both, you are incredibly professional!
Strange, it shouldn't be private. The link is broken for me too though. Here is part 1: th-cam.com/video/JQBYLyOYyBA/w-d-xo.html You can find the other parts in the "Parrot Training Consultations" playlist :)
Wow, looks to me Carolin made all her videos on her channel with us private. I have 4 in my collaborations playlist that now show up as private... not sure why, we have not communicated since our collabs. Sorry about that. You're welcome to view the other videos in my playlist with her as there were a few different ones. Not sure if she will change that or not.
Interesting... Birds too need 12 hrs sleep... And you foundout whats the problem instantly... Nice learning video for new bird owners... Glory looks like a doll... Two qn: 27 years old in birds is young or middle age or old age....? Why podcast 5 not listed in video section? Thanks for another interesting video...🙏
27 for Macaw parrots is young-ish middle age. They can live upwards of 60-80 years, though it is common that most pass away around the 50 mark. 27 years for say, a conure of any kind is typically older. So it depends on the parrot for the age limit.
I finally get it! I didn't understand (after watching over 100 hours of your videos) why our birds need 12 hours of sleep!!!! After watching another video from the place where I am going to be adopting my bird, I was so confused. That video stated that in nature birds don’t always get 12 hours of sleep. But after watching this video, I finally get it! It’s tricking them into thinking it is not the season for mating! Therefore, they do not get hormonal! 🤦♀️
I’ve watched her in the past but didn’t agree with how she was teaching, treating, and raising her birds.... It just seemed to be all for TH-cam and she would put up a forefront of “knowing” about birds. Her flock kept building up and with the amount of drama she would have/cause on her channel made me stop watching. I really do hope you guys can help her, for both the birds and her safety.
So, I have a question. You guys are obviously busy and your birds aren't out all the time. I work and don't currently have anyone at home to spend time with my IRN until I get home, so he's in his cage for 8 hours. We have really good training times when I'm home and have made progress. What I want to know is do you leave foraging for pellets in for your birds when you're gone, before you come home and can do training with them? My IRN isn't hormonal and willingly goes into his cage for his pellet dinner before bed, but I'm wondering if I should be putting foraging toys in there along with his breakfast (he's still not 100% comfortable with my hands, so I don't want to invade his space more than I have to right now) so he can forage while I'm at work and then we do training when I come home, dinner, bed. He's such a small bird and it doesn't take much to fill him up, so I want to make sure I leave enough in there to keep him entertained, but so he's not full when I come home and it's time to train. I think my question is really just: thoughts? Lol. You guys are awesome. Thanks for being you.
I'm so glad you are working with Carolyn but she is a pain in the ass. The bird is fine but Carolyn does not listen or pay attention. Glad Dave said she is not focused. Geez, even I know a bird needs more than 8 hrs of sleep and I dont even have a bird yet. Dont people do research. God give you both patience.
So I've been noticing that she touches and strokes her birds like EVERYWHERE, isn't it a trigger for hormonal behavior? Or is it different with her birds or something? Just asking because you guys didn't say anything about it when she did and it made me wonder.
What a waste of time. Carolin is obviously insane, you can tell by this video and esp. when you watch her channel. She needs help and the birds need a new home. Poor birdies
Great video, I have been blessed, the 2 Toos I adopted almost a year ago, sleep from 7 to 7. Question about regurgitation...my male does this when we go for a car ride. Is this because he is happy or is it more car sickness? Thanx in advance, sue
Crayon Berry I really got lucky, these guys are wonderful. Almost a year and no bites in the past 6 months, lol. Mickey has learned to redirect himself when he’s angry with me, like when I have to go out, he use to bite when I got home. The worst he does is chase my feet around the house but gentle when he catches me, lol.
I leave the curtains in the birds room so that get the natural cycle of light. I thought that this was a good thing... wrong. In the Spring and Summer, I guess that I need blackout curtains or shades so they will be able to get 12 hours of sleep. Right?
NikkiPog4444 if it’s working for your birds then don’t change it necessarily - birds ideally need 12 hours of sleep but ours also go outside during the summer. When there’s a hormonal issue the sleep is very important as it plays a huge role. Also it seems this has been a lack of sleep issue for a long period of time so it’s having negative effects on Glory.
I love your channel but this woman shouldn't be giving advice on how to care for birds and I'm afraid she's only doing this for the exposure... Caroline is extremely problematic and she puts her birds in dangerous situations for views. I'm sure she'll find a way to turn this into some drama... I'm just hoping she's doing this for the right reasons. 🐦🐥
I unsubscribed from caroline she doesn't know much about birds! I've owned since I was 8 I'm 56 now and still learning new things about birds! Bird tricks know their shit! What when caroline said that Dave and Jamie are just entertainers to make money from their birds that's when I said Caroline GOODBYE!!
"Do you have ADHD?" Yes! I do! XD I get why you would ask, makes it easier to work with a person knowing how they function! Having it and not knowing can make learning much more difficult too ;-;
Oh, Caroline will be great once she gets the picture of how you guys do this. My humble suggestion is that each day she takes time (as I do this myself) and watch or re-watch some of your videos. I can't stress enough the value of watching what you guys do, then listening to how you explain stuff. Caroline has done so many great things with her birds, I really think it would help her. The Master class videos especially. My husband even gets it when we watch those. By the way, Glory really likes Dave, did you see how she wanted to come over to him at the end of the video here? Love you guys, Maren and Captian Nemo.
Jamie I do not understand how you can be so patient with folks. You have to say the same thing over and over and bird owners should already know most of this stuff especially about diet and hormones and sleep requirements. Never own an animal unless you know how to appropriately care for it
I love your videos, it’s very informational. I recently got an 18month old scarlet macaw. I’ve had her for about 1.5 months, I’m able to handle her, and will take food from me. She will show signs that she wants to step up/play, but right after she’s on me, sometimes she will just nip my arm out of nowhere. I’m not sure on how to break that behavior or what to do. Please advise. Thank you in advance
Wow I didn't realize how many judgmental subscribers there are here.. I'm very happy that Caroline reached out to birdtricks bc the first step in this process is being aware that there is an issue and she needs help.. Super proud of her for that.. In my opinion I think there is just a culture difference and understandment.. if that makes sense.. I absolutly love Birdtricks so plz don't come for me. People don't realize the words they say might not be hurtful to you but the person your talking about it could be super hurtful for.. (speaking from experience from cyberbullying and my situation) js... I kno Caroline will be attentive and can be taught as she clearly to me has learnt alot already.. hope everyone has a great day..looking forward to seeing the next training session :)
I agree, I get the frustration with Carolin because of the past, I felt that way watching some of her videos but her reaching out for help is the best thing she could do. I’m hopeful that she will take some of their advice!
Just a note, will be watching more of this video later. HOWEVER, we just got organic Life Balancing pellets. They smell so good, I want some, it has something minty in it (maybe a tea?). Nemo (my cockatiel) actually took one from me and then threw it on the floor. Also, I pestle and mortared them a little and mixed two table spoons worth with some of her cockatiel seed mix from the Perfect Parrot. She was eating it!!! She actually had some in her beak!!! Will watch for results the next few weeks as it is spring and she is moulting - perfect time for a healthy diet change.
Guys..... don’t Be shitty . What if she really is adhd? What if the info explosion is just overwhelming? Honestly I can relate. At least she is trying. If shes there, she obviously cares and is recognizing somethings not working. Jeez. I have adhd and am overwhelmed by lots of things like my parrots and I only hope if I ever have the good fortune to get assistance (maybe from Dave and Jamie) there will be some patience there. All I can say is you try having adhd .
I need help. I understand this isnt a recent video, and i did watch this when it came out but i wasnt aware of the issue at the time, i stopped stroking my bird and all that right away, when this video came out though. Im so frustrated and do not want to just scream at my bird, im a new bird owner and i was aware of hormones but wasnt aware of what triggered them. When i first started out (before this video came out) with my bird, i used to cuddle and stroke my bird like a dog or cat. You have no idea how much i regret that now. Ive been feeding my bird fresh vegies, sprouts and a healthy pellet ever since i got him. He will get egg or some sort of protien once a week, with a grain a couple times a week. Fruit in his morning salad about 2-3 times a week and its only the smallest bit of fruit. Seeds and nuts as treats. He is a green cheeked conure. He is not territorial but will attack me (and bite damn hard). He mainly attacks if i show attention to a toy with a bell (i guess it sounds like another bird or something) - so i have stopped giving him bells but sometimes he will attack with just a normal toy, with no bell. If he sees me try and put a toy in his cage, all of a sudden its like he thinks that im spending time with that toy and he will attack the toy and myself. He has always had the full 12 hours sleep, no less. I tried to train the retrieve and i was using a plastic pony bead, he knows many other tricks too such as touch training, recall, stationing, the wave, shake, turn around, step up, perch, flip around the perch and roll over. But i tried to teach him to go fetch the bead and he was doing really well with it actually, he would go and pick up the bead but didnt understand to bring it back. This morning I started training him to bring it back (to be fair ive only tried today to teach him to bring it back) but he all of a sudden started attacking me, the bead was too small for him to attack but he sure did try. He almost drew blood. I didnt know what to do so i just started yelling and then got up and walked away. He continues to do this every time i try and train him to fetch. I eliminated everything to make him feel hormonal a long time ago, but he still sees me as his mate. Im so frustrated and i dont know what to do to stop this aggressive behaviour, i would love if yoy could do a video on how to deal with a hormonal parrot? or just give me a brief run-down here? Thankyou so much for all the infromative videos. And just your amazing personality, you have helped me train my bird so many tricks and you have also helped me so much with just bird care. I really appreciate it :)
I learned something new myself. I have no set lights off time in the bird room right now since i am hand feeding a couple new babies ive been staying up later to do so. I will definitely start setting myself straight and get those lights off earlier! I switch to using chop for breakfast but i have to redo it now because the beet root turned everything purple and my birds are not loving the color. My macaw eats hers now as long as i put a fresh sweet potato in there lol but my sun conures... they arent liking the color. I got more fresh foods to make a new beet root free batch and see if the color change helps me out this time! Lol
I can understand Caroline's reaction at 13:40 where Glory jumped onto her as that is a first step in getting Glory to learn to fly. I have made many of the mistakes that Caroline has made myself so I would not judge her too harshly but I do hope Caroline later learnt that she needs to take the instruction more seriously and concentrate on what she is being told.
Imho that is no ADHD, this is textbook histrionic/cluster-b. Very charmingly chaotic, drama and projection of own neediness. Kind of endearing, but no German accent ;-)
Check out PART ONE to this consult here th-cam.com/video/-zjINNKALIw/w-d-xo.html 💙
please give her a big chance.
Learning by ourselves is the best...if possible....feel so said for her...
Why is it not possible to watch part 1, its private ?
Is there a follow up to this video?
Holy crap, I have NEVER seen Dave so frustrated and almost give up. I hope y'all are able to help this bird by training Caroline!
I have when he was working with a woman who had a military macaw and a couple who had two hyacinths.
@@THEE.apples fair enough, I don't think I've seen those videos yet. Thanks!
i love the way you are able to tell people what the problem is without sounding judgemental ❤
Oh my good lord. No chance I could get through this training session
Good luck working with her!! I’m not referring to Glory!! You guys are true heroes 🦸♀️ 🦸♂️🦜
Two years later and Carolin is still just as inexperienced,
Noticed in part one that she was doing the full body petting. >.< Being a seasoned viewer, I was cringing so hard at my TV. Kudos for you guys for being so patient with the owner.
Probably a good thing she didn't understand the ADHD question. Poor Dave was getting petty irritated, lol.
PS: If someone could add captions to the windy parts near the end, that would be really helpful and appreciated. ❤️
I am sooo happy Tyler Nolan has reached out to you about Phoenix. Really hope it's a positive assembly of folks who really love their birds!
Lori Shepherd Dave here - super stoked to do a consult with Tyler. Working on details now!
O my poor Glory.. Carolin needs lots of help. Hopefully she will be able to be trained
I've none stop commented on Caroline videos about proper training and the hormonal stress she is putting her birds. And instead of reading the advise she makes another video about how she deals with "Haters". Glory is 100% trainable its just Caroline that is messing up the training (she even made a video saying she was getting rid of glory! after only a month of having her!) Honesty I feel bad for glory, having an owner that is more interested in views than the well being of her birds) I don't hate Caroline I have just lost all faith in her as a "Professional parrot trainer"(as she calls herself)
Years later and Carolin has learned nothing.
I did watch Carolyne a few times but I quit because I felt not at ease with her and not wanting to be negative I quit. I am so glad that you are helping her, I just hope she will listen and that what you are teaching her will sink in. I think she is a very good person with a will to succeed.
Mimi I did the same thing. I just couldn’t handle watching her and all the mistakes she was making with her birds and then the wrong info she was giving to her viewers.
@@debzacher1332 she trys her best
I'm really happy you're sharing this session with us. I am surprised that Caroline isn't allowing Glory (and maybe the rest of her birds) full 12hr sleep time. This was one of the first things I learned from Marlene's videos. Love your videos as I'm learning so much from you. Thank you so much.
Laila Baloch it’s not that she isn’t “allowing”...seriously we all have our own routine & Carolin has her best intentions for her birds. The important fact is we all strive to be better parronts. 💕
Loveyourparrot Education thank you for showing here all the things she is doing that is creating this regurgitate and mating behavior. Please Caroline listen to all warm soft food is a big0 when it comes to her hormonal behavior
So surprised. She doesn't give her 12 hr sleep. To her birds.
Why is Caroline not focusing?
@@loveyourparrot_ we all have routines. Having any type of pet you must know the bare basics. Would you apply the same routine if it was an infant? I was just surprised that Caroline wasn't allowing Glory to have more sleep. Don't get me wrong I love that Caroline free flies her birds. Also, that she loves her birds. Research is so important before we acquire a pet of any type.
WOW for sure the Owner needs to be trained first then the Bird lol
I actually had unsubscribed from Caroline because I was getting frustrated at the way she treated Glory; it was very obvious Glory thought and behaved Caroline as her mate, but instead of realizing this, Caroline just decided Glory was too aggressive and blamed her behavior on Glory's previous owner, implying he was abusive towards Glory when he was not. On one hand, it was somewhat understandable; Caroline's other parrots did not show hormonal behavior towards humans, only other parrots, so Caroline was inexperienced with a bird that found humans sexually attractive. On the other hand, she made a video saying she was going to sell Glory despite the fact that the bird was given to her for free! by someone who trusted her to give her a good life. I said as much in several of her videos and as a final straw. I don't know if she just missed my comment because I was the only one or if she just wasn't listening and had made her mind up (a bad habit of hers) but here we are. And I don't even own birds (yet), I just had watched enough videos from around birdtube to figure out that hey, if a bird constantly wants to be on you, gets aggressively jealous of other birds, and screams when you are absent - yeah that bird most likely thinks you're her mate.
I'm glad Caroline decided not to sell Glory (which would have DEVASTATED her) and finally listened that Glory was not a problem bird, she was just getting the wrong signals.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Have never watched any of Caroline's videos, so the background info helps me see the bigger picture.
I had seen a video of hers where marlene visited her house and I was surprised at the chaos/easily was able to observe she was petting her bird in all the wrong ways. I'm also surprised that considering all the birds that she has that she wouldn't know these things, its shocking and scary to realize people have all these parrots but don't actually know that they require 12 hours of sleep or to not give them soft warm foods (I felt like these were basics) and for someone to own the number of parrots she does I would've expected more experience.
I’ve seen a couple of her videos and despite her own “human training” even I don’t think parrots are really her thing :/ whether she wants it to be or not. Until consorting with bird tricks, at times it seems like she has had no prior experience or research before or during having them and has just been winging it the whole time. And honestly.. just her in general bugs me
I remember her video titled people trying to steal my macaw and it was her macaw flying up into a tree her pretending he wasn’t hers and trying to coax the other people into getting him down like.. why? 🤦♀️
@@unicornwizhez4115 I agree. For one thing she has no clue on parrot body language and has 2 of the largest beaks of the parrot world basically in her face a lot of the time. And she communicates to all 3 of her macaws that she is their mate. And often she shoves them together when they don't want to be near each other. It's a recipe for disaster. As a matter fact Glory bit a hole in Love's beak,when she put them together in a crate. It is baffling that she didn't know any better,when she saw how aggressive Glory was, and knew she was used to being by herself with the other ppl for so many years.
I really feel like you need to be prepared and have the right type of personality to keep parrots esp large parrots. And she doesn't have it.
And she wonders why glory bit a hole in loves beak
Aw Dave, you have such patience.
Do you have ADHD? I have a HD camera, lol. I never laughed so hard. I am sure I have ADHD as I have a hard time listening and interrupt too much.
You can do it Caroline! It was funny when Dave through the Target and was going to give up, lol. Can't wait until the next episode.
That was hilarious
Love of Pets too funny!
🤣🤣. She’ll get there! 🙌🏻
Im not a nativr english speaker and i havent been this lost about a work in english in a loooooong time 🤣
Dave, I'm feeling you through the phone mate. Good on you for re-grouping and seeing the real need to help Carolyne.
Glad you guys are helping her!! You guys have a lot of patience cuz I think I wouldn’t have made it without getting frustrated 😂
I love how she admits she reinforced the screaming initially. It’s great when people can realize the things they need to change.
Wow, will be surprised if she follows through. Can’t wait to see the evening training session.
Still watching her videos and she didn’t follow through,
If you watch her video after part 1 she has continued doing what you said not to do feeding Mac nuts as food and not treats and petting her over her whole body
A lot of great information here that I’m learning from (I’ll call myself a “someday” parrot parent). From sleep to diet to hormones to what you need to even start a training session! Caroline is really listening though- She summarized and taught back the changes to make for preventing hormonal behavior 👍🏻.
I have the birdtricks clicker in red lol...came with taming, training and tricks. I didn't even have a bird back then. Just something my dad bought. I only got a bird last year and was happy to come across the DVD and clicker.
Clickers can be used for training other pets too. I used one for training my dog.
@@Kiryuu3 yeah I'm planning on training my dogs some tricks
I can’t wait for part 3! This is so interesting! Thank you so much ☺️
This is a very important video and I appreciate that you guys only want the best for her and her bird
Wow Dave u r amazing g how u do this with out slapping people is amazin🍾❤
janie utley 😂😂😂😂
There was one masterclass filmed a while ago where he goes "To be blunt... it's not him(the bird)"
I mean, we kind of have to resort to slapping with words...
That girl is literally just not listening or taking this seriously at all, the ADHD comment was spot on! She needs to put her ego aside so she can help her beautiful bird
+1,000,000... welcome to modern America "it's all about me" instead of understanding the responsibility of being a parrot owner.
@@cneuhauser1 carolin obviously is not American
She is German
@@Mal-ou8yl same, its also a big factor of actually wanting to listen to someone or not.
Your vids are so educational and I wish good health to your birds and family!!!💙💚💜💛🧡❤
For someone who has this that many parrots I am seriously concerned that she doesn't have a better diet for her birds... Especially a large breed that flies... I'm not the pellet police but I do believe in a rounded diet ... And her not even having a good recall, I just don't think I'd ever bring my bird out till I had that down... But I guess maybe she never knew that she wasn't great at it. I also couldn't watch her videos cause I would cringe at the amount of times she had to yell for her bird to come back...
I saw a few vids of Caroline and Glory and I thought this person is triggering her bird's hormonal behaviors and possessiveness as she won't recognize her mistakes and let her bird decide for her. She doesn't seem to take y'all advices seriously and it's frustrating to watch. Hats off to you guys for your patience, I wouldn't be so tolerant. Lol
A target training nightmare! Poor Dave
Have a wonderful day everyone!
Have a wonderful day too! :D
I love both of your channel. This has been so informative. I love Caroline for asking for help. Just think how many people you guys will help.
Too many distractions outside! LOL. Yes, I bet tonight in a less distracting setting with help Glory learn more easily. I hope that Caroline will be able to help Glory because she is such a precious bird! I love that Dave and Jamieleigh train with positive reinforcement only. It's wonderful and the only way to go for training birds and other animals. Love and big hugs, Barb, Baby, Beenie :)
I think you may have bitten off more than you can chew this time. CVP is going to be a challenge.
Wow - You two have the patience of Job. Lol
Thank you for what you do. ❤️
Hyacinth Macaws are so beautiful!
Glory is doing your call now! That's awesome! She's part of the flock
Who’s here after Caroline shaded Birdtricks about petting macaws in her hate video against Tyler Nolan?
What a great team you three were. Caroline is such a dedicated owner. Her girl has come such a long way. Thank you
Sometimes with a language barrier too many words is simply too many words. Would be better to not over explain. You have a willing heartfelt client who only wants to do what’s best. Maybe you just say
1. 12 hours of sleep,
2. Correct diet.
3. Don’t pet your bird like this.
4 we will show you what we want in target practice with our bird.
5. set her up for success. Do it indoors, make sure bird is hungry.
Not ok to blame student for not understanding unclear over explained directions. You said bird was tired so wait.
When the student doesn’t understand it is always laid at the feet of the teacher. The teachers job is to figure out what the student is understanding and help them. You did great by waiting to regroup.
Wow, so helpful. I do have a question. Is her screaming good job to loud another reason why her bird screams too wanting attention or mimicking her? Just curious.
Glory was locked up in her cage, behind a closed door for a very long time. Her previous owner didn't give the bird any attention. So this bird stayed in her cage, in her own room, behind a closed door and she screamed for attention. When Carolin picked her up, she has been screaming uncontrollably and constantly since that day. That's all Glory knows how to do. Glory is now afraid of losing Carolin. So she is jealous of even humans. I don't believe it's hormonal. This bird is very scarred and going to take a miracle to fix. Glory would be fine if Carolin had only one bird, Glory and if Carolin could give her all her time.. But that's not gonna happen. Carolin has 5 other birds.
@@outoftime7740 Giving her all the time the bird wants to have is no solution. There are just so many things to improve there and there IS a hormonal issue, nobody can deny it. It's definitely doable to make Carolin a good bird Trainer and Glory a bird without behavorial issues since it's very obvious, that Glory thinks that Carolin is her mate. After or if they solved that problem their situation will improve.
@@j.7658 The bird is almost 30 years old. Males and female birds will give you their food. It's nature for them to do this. If they care about the person or care about something they like. It's getting fed. That's not hormonal. That's instincts and their nature. Now that Carolin saved Glory from her hell. Glory is afraid to lose Carolin. That's all Glory cares about is Carolin, no one else. Everyone else she hates because she was abused.
@@outoftime7740 I don't think that you are completely right, but we'll see how Jamie and Dave solve it and see afterwards if Glory is still.. "afraid of losing Carolin". Pretty sure they already trained birds like Glory. And that she is so jealous and wants Carolin for her own is the result of making the bird think you are his partner. Now if she stops triggering the hormonal behaviour and with Jamie's and Dave's help Glory will be as great as all the other birds Jamie and Dave trained. Whatever. We will see in the following videos.
@@outoftime7740 the biggest issue here is the owner and not the bird. Carolin has to be trained and when Carolin changes her bird will too. Because Carolin is the source of problems. If the bird would be given to Jamie and Dave now for example Glory would become a whole new bird!
I am laughing so Hard!!! Just how many sessions come w a consult package? OMG!! Looks like she has good intentions though. This made my day!
“Gonna wing it!” Haha! 🦜
OMG can she be any more unfocused lol
This will be a great journey, I already can tell!
Please more Videos on thos two! :D
Carolyn needs some STRONG simple training before her Hyacinth can do well !
We know you two can work magic but Caroline is like beyond even professor Dumbledorf , if she's not serious enough to to pay attention to help you are giving her bird and flock will suffer, maybe the training session needs to be indoors and away from distractions were the attention can be more focused ?
Dave Scheer that session is coming soon 💕
BirdTricks, Jamie this is going to be interesting can't wait to see the outcome !
Y'all did very good staying patient!
How can she not know birds need 12 hrs of sleep...Caroline has a you tube channel...seriously not knowing some things they taught her and she tries to give info on her channel...thanks but I will stick with Dave and Jamie
You'd think she would do research on how to care for birds before she decides to keep them as pets. I don't think she's really that bright.
All she does is free fly her birds and then acts like she knows everything...
Having a TH-cam channel doesn’t mean you actually know what you’re talking about and Caroline is a perfect example. She acts as an “expert” but she puts out a lot of bad and potentially dangerous misinformation. Yes this is old but the scary thing is she has gotten worse over the years. She is the worst!
Is part 1 available anywhere else as I notice it's been made private now? I find myself becoming increasingly frustrated with the way Carolin is with her birds (most recently, losing Love up a tree during a free flight and clickbaiting it for nearly a week), so this was really interesting to watch. Kudos to you both, you are incredibly professional!
Strange, it shouldn't be private. The link is broken for me too though. Here is part 1: th-cam.com/video/JQBYLyOYyBA/w-d-xo.html
You can find the other parts in the "Parrot Training Consultations" playlist :)
Wow, looks to me Carolin made all her videos on her channel with us private. I have 4 in my collaborations playlist that now show up as private... not sure why, we have not communicated since our collabs. Sorry about that. You're welcome to view the other videos in my playlist with her as there were a few different ones. Not sure if she will change that or not.
That poor bird. I couldn't deal with her as my owner.
That lady is all over the place she cant stay focused but i am hoping for good things for her and her bird
Interesting... Birds too need 12 hrs sleep... And you foundout whats the problem instantly... Nice learning video for new bird owners...
Glory looks like a doll...
Two qn:
27 years old in birds is young or middle age or old age....?
Why podcast 5 not listed in video section?
Thanks for another interesting video...🙏
Ikr that type of macaw is SO PRETTY, and THAT SHADE OF BLUE
So pretty
27 for Macaw parrots is young-ish middle age. They can live upwards of 60-80 years, though it is common that most pass away around the 50 mark.
27 years for say, a conure of any kind is typically older. So it depends on the parrot for the age limit.
@@kenzers-
Interesting.. Thanks for sharing..
Oh my lord have Mercy on my soul...Dave is ready to jump out of the plane ✈️ after this
BeachLoverGirl in all fairness, I’m always ready to go jump 😜
David DaVinci lol 😂
She's such a beautiful bird.
Very helpful. Love your videos Jamie! I'm so glad that you could help Caroline even though I don't always agree with her.
Excited for part 3!
I finally get it! I didn't understand (after watching over 100 hours of your videos) why our birds need 12 hours of sleep!!!! After watching another video from the place where I am going to be adopting my bird, I was so confused. That video stated that in nature birds don’t always get 12 hours of sleep. But after watching this video, I finally get it! It’s tricking them into thinking it is not the season for mating! Therefore, they do not get hormonal! 🤦♀️
Dave: Are you ADHD?
Caroline: I have hd camera?
This was expected.
I’ve watched her in the past but didn’t agree with how she was teaching, treating, and raising her birds.... It just seemed to be all for TH-cam and she would put up a forefront of “knowing” about birds. Her flock kept building up and with the amount of drama she would have/cause on her channel made me stop watching. I really do hope you guys can help her, for both the birds and her safety.
So, I have a question. You guys are obviously busy and your birds aren't out all the time. I work and don't currently have anyone at home to spend time with my IRN until I get home, so he's in his cage for 8 hours. We have really good training times when I'm home and have made progress. What I want to know is do you leave foraging for pellets in for your birds when you're gone, before you come home and can do training with them? My IRN isn't hormonal and willingly goes into his cage for his pellet dinner before bed, but I'm wondering if I should be putting foraging toys in there along with his breakfast (he's still not 100% comfortable with my hands, so I don't want to invade his space more than I have to right now) so he can forage while I'm at work and then we do training when I come home, dinner, bed. He's such a small bird and it doesn't take much to fill him up, so I want to make sure I leave enough in there to keep him entertained, but so he's not full when I come home and it's time to train. I think my question is really just: thoughts? Lol. You guys are awesome. Thanks for being you.
Make all of his breakfast food foraging :).
So, reverse having chop in the morning and pellets at night? That's an idea.. Maybe I'll do that. :)
Dave and Jamieleigh for sainthood! Patience is a hell of a virtue...
GOT A.D.D.?
Omg. The owner is the one needing training. Hyper spaz ! Bird has no direction or structure.
I really hope she can do this!
Yupper Glory is a keeper, she will get it down in training on time. I have faith. Lol 🕊
I'm so glad you are working with Carolyn but she is a pain in the ass. The bird is fine but Carolyn does not listen or pay attention. Glad Dave said she is not focused. Geez, even I know a bird needs more than 8 hrs of sleep and I dont even have a bird yet. Dont people do research. God give you both patience.
So I've been noticing that she touches and strokes her birds like EVERYWHERE, isn't it a trigger for hormonal behavior? Or is it different with her birds or something? Just asking because you guys didn't say anything about it when she did and it made me wonder.
There's also a video where she's rubbing around Hope's vent and calls it a "butt massage"
@@Kiryuu3 Oh my... Like really? So glad that Jamie and Dave are there to help her, Oof...
They do mention it in the earlier video
@@Kiryuu3 She also does a “raspberry” into Hope’s butt, then kisses the bird there in one of her videos.🫢😮😝
What a waste of time. Carolin is obviously insane, you can tell by this video and esp. when you watch her channel. She needs help and the birds need a new home. Poor birdies
Great video, I have been blessed, the 2 Toos I adopted almost a year ago, sleep from 7 to 7. Question about regurgitation...my male does this when we go for a car ride. Is this because he is happy or is it more car sickness? Thanx in advance, sue
Aww! Two cockatoos! AwWwW. I love birds sooooooooo much
I have heard that cockatoos have a tendency to get car sick.
Wendy C thanks, good to know! We went to visit my Dad today and he did at the beginning and was fine on the way home, I have to agree with you.
Crayon Berry I really got lucky, these guys are wonderful. Almost a year and no bites in the past 6 months, lol. Mickey has learned to redirect himself when he’s angry with me, like when I have to go out, he use to bite when I got home. The worst he does is chase my feet around the house but gentle when he catches me, lol.
I wasn’t aware that warm mushy foods was a trigger for hormones
Ally Gator yes because it resembles regurgitated food, but it’s mostly only an issue during the spring and fall months.
Wow!! That makes so much more sense !!
This was very neat! Love y’all!!
Can’t wait for the follow up video to find out if ADHD is an additional factor 😂 Great video, love to see your thought process in action
I leave the curtains in the birds room so that get the natural cycle of light. I thought that this was a good thing... wrong. In the Spring and Summer, I guess that I need blackout curtains or shades so they will be able to get 12 hours of sleep. Right?
NikkiPog4444 if it’s working for your birds then don’t change it necessarily - birds ideally need 12 hours of sleep but ours also go outside during the summer. When there’s a hormonal issue the sleep is very important as it plays a huge role. Also it seems this has been a lack of sleep issue for a long period of time so it’s having negative effects on Glory.
As a person with ADHD, it is impossible for me to tell whether she is undiagnosed ADHD, or if she's just acting that way for the cameras.
I love your channel but this woman shouldn't be giving advice on how to care for birds and I'm afraid she's only doing this for the exposure... Caroline is extremely problematic and she puts her birds in dangerous situations for views. I'm sure she'll find a way to turn this into some drama... I'm just hoping she's doing this for the right reasons. 🐦🐥
I unsubscribed from caroline she doesn't know much about birds! I've owned since I was 8 I'm 56 now and still learning new things about birds! Bird tricks know their shit! What when caroline said that Dave and Jamie are just entertainers to make money from their birds that's when I said Caroline GOODBYE!!
10:09 i think its funny how the blue macaw also replies to him lol
That's a freaking BEAUTIFUL bird :D
"Do you have ADHD?" Yes! I do! XD I get why you would ask, makes it easier to work with a person knowing how they function! Having it and not knowing can make learning much more difficult too ;-;
Oh, Caroline will be great once she gets the picture of how you guys do this. My humble suggestion is that each day she takes time (as I do this myself) and watch or re-watch some of your videos. I can't stress enough the value of watching what you guys do, then listening to how you explain stuff. Caroline has done so many great things with her birds, I really think it would help her. The Master class videos especially. My husband even gets it when we watch those. By the way, Glory really likes Dave, did you see how she wanted to come over to him at the end of the video here? Love you guys, Maren and Captian Nemo.
Jamie I do not understand how you can be so patient with folks. You have to say the same thing over and over and bird owners should already know most of this stuff especially about diet and hormones and sleep requirements. Never own an animal unless you know how to appropriately care for it
This is going to Very Interesting !!,
I love your videos, it’s very informational. I recently got an 18month old scarlet macaw. I’ve had her for about 1.5 months, I’m able to handle her, and will take food from me. She will show signs that she wants to step up/play, but right after she’s on me, sometimes she will just nip my arm out of nowhere. I’m not sure on how to break that behavior or what to do. Please advise. Thank you in advance
Where do you put your bird to sleep? I'm thinking of moving her cage since she has been over preening. I always want the best for my bird
I need those books for my parrots too!! Where can I get them!! Also I know Caroline can do it!!!
Podcast 5 released this week itself... I watched it.. But cant find in the video list
NAVEEN RAJ th-cam.com/play/PLTDMtzpg_JIiAVBbngHovfHTpl1i-yr_p.html 💚
I think you and Dave are both going to have to put on your PhD hats!
"I can't get you (the human) to target"
🤣
Wow I didn't realize how many judgmental subscribers there are here.. I'm very happy that Caroline reached out to birdtricks bc the first step in this process is being aware that there is an issue and she needs help.. Super proud of her for that.. In my opinion I think there is just a culture difference and understandment.. if that makes sense.. I absolutly love Birdtricks so plz don't come for me. People don't realize the words they say might not be hurtful to you but the person your talking about it could be super hurtful for.. (speaking from experience from cyberbullying and my situation) js... I kno Caroline will be attentive and can be taught as she clearly to me has learnt alot already.. hope everyone has a great day..looking forward to seeing the next training session :)
I agree, I get the frustration with Carolin because of the past, I felt that way watching some of her videos but her reaching out for help is the best thing she could do. I’m hopeful that she will take some of their advice!
Just a note, will be watching more of this video later. HOWEVER, we just got organic Life Balancing pellets. They smell so good, I want some, it has something minty in it (maybe a tea?). Nemo (my cockatiel) actually took one from me and then threw it on the floor. Also, I pestle and mortared them a little and mixed two table spoons worth with some of her cockatiel seed mix from the Perfect Parrot. She was eating it!!! She actually had some in her beak!!! Will watch for results the next few weeks as it is spring and she is moulting - perfect time for a healthy diet change.
Maren Haugen yay!!!!
@@BirdTricks She actually likes them!!
Guys..... don’t Be shitty . What if she really is adhd? What if the info explosion is just overwhelming? Honestly I can relate. At least she is trying. If shes there, she obviously cares and is recognizing somethings not working. Jeez. I have adhd and am overwhelmed by lots of things like my parrots and I only hope if I ever have the good fortune to get assistance (maybe from Dave and Jamie) there will be some patience there. All I can say is you try having adhd .
To clarify this is not directed at Dave and Jamie. More so the comment section
I need help. I understand this isnt a recent video, and i did watch this when it came out but i wasnt aware of the issue at the time, i stopped stroking my bird and all that right away, when this video came out though. Im so frustrated and do not want to just scream at my bird, im a new bird owner and i was aware of hormones but wasnt aware of what triggered them. When i first started out (before this video came out) with my bird, i used to cuddle and stroke my bird like a dog or cat. You have no idea how much i regret that now. Ive been feeding my bird fresh vegies, sprouts and a healthy pellet ever since i got him. He will get egg or some sort of protien once a week, with a grain a couple times a week. Fruit in his morning salad about 2-3 times a week and its only the smallest bit of fruit. Seeds and nuts as treats. He is a green cheeked conure. He is not territorial but will attack me (and bite damn hard). He mainly attacks if i show attention to a toy with a bell (i guess it sounds like another bird or something) - so i have stopped giving him bells but sometimes he will attack with just a normal toy, with no bell. If he sees me try and put a toy in his cage, all of a sudden its like he thinks that im spending time with that toy and he will attack the toy and myself. He has always had the full 12 hours sleep, no less. I tried to train the retrieve and i was using a plastic pony bead, he knows many other tricks too such as touch training, recall, stationing, the wave, shake, turn around, step up, perch, flip around the perch and roll over. But i tried to teach him to go fetch the bead and he was doing really well with it actually, he would go and pick up the bead but didnt understand to bring it back. This morning I started training him to bring it back (to be fair ive only tried today to teach him to bring it back) but he all of a sudden started attacking me, the bead was too small for him to attack but he sure did try. He almost drew blood. I didnt know what to do so i just started yelling and then got up and walked away. He continues to do this every time i try and train him to fetch. I eliminated everything to make him feel hormonal a long time ago, but he still sees me as his mate. Im so frustrated and i dont know what to do to stop this aggressive behaviour, i would love if yoy could do a video on how to deal with a hormonal parrot? or just give me a brief run-down here? Thankyou so much for all the infromative videos. And just your amazing personality, you have helped me train my bird so many tricks and you have also helped me so much with just bird care. I really appreciate it :)
Hehe what a challenge! Will the next part be on this channel? 😊 Or hers?
TheDesiLiter next part will be here and then hers 💚
@@BirdTricks great! Thanks for answering ❤️😊
My birds get 14 hours of sleep, no matter what. I don’t see much of any hormonal behaviour.
Wish Carolin would have taken you seriously. She still does what she wants.
I learned something new myself. I have no set lights off time in the bird room right now since i am hand feeding a couple new babies ive been staying up later to do so. I will definitely start setting myself straight and get those lights off earlier! I switch to using chop for breakfast but i have to redo it now because the beet root turned everything purple and my birds are not loving the color. My macaw eats hers now as long as i put a fresh sweet potato in there lol but my sun conures... they arent liking the color. I got more fresh foods to make a new beet root free batch and see if the color change helps me out this time! Lol
I can understand Caroline's reaction at 13:40 where Glory jumped onto her as that is a first step in getting Glory to learn to fly.
I have made many of the mistakes that Caroline has made myself so I would not judge her too harshly but I do hope Caroline later learnt that she needs to take the instruction more seriously and concentrate on what she is being told.
Bird on proper diet together with the owner being serious , focus , hardwork, discipline and patience should do it...
More Please!
Imho that is no ADHD, this is textbook histrionic/cluster-b. Very charmingly chaotic, drama and projection of own neediness. Kind of endearing, but no German accent ;-)
Oh yeah she has ADHD...always distracted and compulsively disclosing...