Loved that bit where the priestess asks Laura what she sees, and then she reaches for her book, and you, well, I, think.....no way......she knows everything? She's going to show how every little vision and myth is backed up with physical books? Mg
"We're standing on it.....we're standing on Earth.... The scriptures say, that when the 13th tribe landed on Earth, they looked up in the heavens and saw their 12 brothers..." -Starbuck "Earth is the place where you can look up in the sky, and see the constellations of the 12 colonies." -Roslin
As a fan of the original series, this show was tuff to watch. I think they saved it (4 the most part) but the whole Kara finding Earth based on the original song of the series was a funny touch. Also the writer not casting a black person in ANY role was a smack in the face. He saved it however buy them landing in Africa and finding nothing but black people. Then they lost it again by making mitochondria Eve a white female. WTS the show was a solid 6 and help launch Katee Sakolff's career.
@@craigharris41 a cylon, communications officer, all sorts of extras. And 1/2 the other non-black sure as hell weren't white. It was a US/Canadian production, you know blacks are a minority within that demographic, correct?
I have watched BSG at least 6 times and every time I see something I missed. The most ethereal and intelligent series EVER made by far. Absolute brilliance and I never wanted it to end.
It always bothered me how others got angels constantly, but Roslin got hallucinations and was taking drugs during a lot of them. She had an angel once in a deleted scene, but it didn't make sense time-wise (as it took place between the start of a jump and the end, which happens instantly but lasted for several minutes in the scene).
I remember reading (in some fan fiction I think) that angels appear according to how much people (important) need them. That would explain why Baltar see 6 all time, he simply need so much care and control. I mean his role is of Judas AND Messiah at same time and he was walking above abyss more that others and played most dangerous games of them all(at least he wasn't pilot or he would need two angels all time). Anyway she is simply strong and capable enough to do it without their help most time. Aldo seeing invisible people could, with her medical state, made her think she is becoming crazy or tell someone about it. (Others keep it secret)
it must have been very impactful to have validation in your religion which gives a great renewal in your faith that the path your leading is a correct one.
Carmen Lynn no? They never said there was only one god in the story. The gods actually existed, as evidenced by their oracles in the show, and the city of the gods itself
@@baekyum Im talking about the One gods role in their whole journey. We only see the influence of one god. The other gods were moreso the groundwork for the colonials way of life before the holocaust and their exodus. In the last scene of the show, the messengers only refer to one god. In the lead up to what becomes our modern Earth, the one god is the abrahamic god
It's unknown. The colonists believe humanity started on Kobol, but I agree on a fan theory that Kobol was just another rung on the ladder and that maybe humans originated from Earth, fled, colonized Kobol, fled that, founded the Colonies, etc. It's constantly in a loop of the serpent eating its tail.
Good Question in the original series Kobol was planet but Egypt!!!! I prefer that better Egypt was center of everything. Sumer was the first civilization.
Really need to ask it as I can't find the answer anywhere: why the Exodus of the 12 tribes from Kobol happened? What was the catastrophe that led to it? Was it a nuclear olocaust? And if yes between humans and cylons? And if so what happened to those cylons?
The 13th tribe was a cylon race and just like the show, they rebelled against their masters. Anyway, The 13th tribe didn’t nuke Kobol but they decided to leave to earth while the 12 tribes decided to leave Kobol to find a new home which was the 12 colonies. “All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again” describe the nature of BSG universe
The 13th tribe were cylons who left of their own freecwill due to conflict between them and the 12 tribes of humans. The lords of Kobol were involved in this conflict and some died so the remaining lords expelled the 12 tribea putting them in a starship called the galleon The lords of kobol are the gods of Greek mythology. There are no details of the conflict
@@dusco4mi He literally answered all your questions. You just expected something different. Yes, there was a war between humans and Cylon, that's why the humans left and the legend of the 13th tribe is the cylons they created and fought against. We don't really know what happened specifically in the war. Could be interpreted as some major disaster or just a big war that inspired both parties to abandon the world in order to make peace. Could be thermonuclear, but Kobol isn't an irradiated waste, so the nukes would have been in space or extremely limited.
@@renkol123 if i remember correctly it was said that Kobol had some radiation. That means there was a nuclear war just more then 2000 years before. Which is enough for planet to recover
p Crem: You mean the GO instruction? Oops! BTW, I didn’t get an alert on your reply. I wonder why. EDIT: Just discovered there is an open source language called GO. Thanks.
While I loved this show, and its extremely superior to the original, not even close, way more content as well. The original had a better theme song and established the worlds, and i liked that the original cylons were Reptiles that created the robot cylons and then died off and never shut off the Robots or something. And to point out a flaw with 2004 series, it would be the humanoid cylons, especially the final 5. Characters like Saul Tigh were destroyed because now he's a Cylon, or was 2000 years ago, but he appears human done to the cellular level, so I'd say that is human...it was just stupid. But the show had great acting, powerful scenes, incredible music and Action. Besides not explaining how gravity worked on the ships and the FTL drive the show was pretty based in reality.
Are you so sure that COBOL wasn't unconsciously named after the planet we all started out from? *All this has happened before, and will happen again...*
Proposal for Reboot. The Galactica and the the refugee fleet find Kobol. They suspect that they can explore Kobol without worrying about the Cylons behind them. Mainly as an act of caution, there is an agreement to send a standard week on Kobol. After the week plus one day, the fleet must evacuate. Oddly during the week, there is a discovery of a few building out of place among the ruins. The strange buildings have been recently constructed. Oddly the refugee fleet find the first evidence of Earth's existence. The evidence is that the buildings have been only built a year before the Refugee Fleet rediscover Kobol..
I believe there was a prophesy about how any attempt to re-colonize Kobol would spell death for everyone. Plus the fact the Cylons knew where it was and had it infested didn't help much either....
So a sub light space group left 2000 years ago and don't have a record? That much technology would allow for records and not just writing. Say 10k or 100k and it works. By their own admission, they made it up as they went. They have glaring issues. And you will not find a system with 12 planets in the habitat zone. So, is it 2 systems or more next to each other? Then how did sub light travel keep the colonies together? These are basic questions they needed to address. And yes, I liked the show and would TiVo it and watch as soon as I got home from work.
The Cyrannus System was four stars in synchronous orbit of each other. The twelve colonies were distributed amongst them, with several more planets not habitable, but utilised for their mineral resources. Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock, shows the map and gives the backstory.
The thing I hated about BSG was the supernatural/mystic/religious element thewriters insisted on weaving into the fabric of the series. I respect that others loved it; I'm just saying I didn't.
It was the showrunner who did this,i think hes Mormon/christian or something he wanted a GOD-esque arc in the series, which is why all this ANGEL, destiny was in the show. the Original Battlestar series dint ahve that much god elements, but more scifi elements, the shworunner dint want that. I prefer the scifi elements over a CHRISTIAN themed series. Also by adding a 1 true god, they dismiss the other gods lore and mythology. a similar thing happens in supernatural show, introduced a 1-god, and then completely disregard the other mythologies.
The two original BSG series were rife with religious allusion. Lord Iblis was an overt Satan analogue. Any time one of the Lords of Kobol appeared, Apollo and Starbuck's rainment became white as snow (even their blasters). Then, Starbuck was raised from the dead and was the human father for the child named Dr. Z (messiah or prophet), who lead the colonies to the promised land in 1980. You could make a Star Wars show or movie without the Force, and it can even be good storytelling, but if the Force is introduced (tail end of Rogue One), it shouldn't shock the audience.
"It's real. The scriptures, the myths, the prophecies, they're all real."
"So say we all."
Elosha was so cool... "what did you see?" Immediately knew what was up
I always really loved the priestess. She brought a lot of understated gravitas to that role.
Loved that bit where the priestess asks Laura what she sees, and then she reaches for her book, and you, well, I, think.....no way......she knows everything? She's going to show how every little vision and myth is backed up with physical books? Mg
"We're standing on it.....we're standing on Earth.... The scriptures say, that when the 13th tribe landed on Earth, they looked up in the heavens and saw their 12 brothers..." -Starbuck
"Earth is the place where you can look up in the sky, and see the constellations of the 12 colonies." -Roslin
Well, 13 constellations. Ophiuchus, the Serpent, was ignored by the christians when they became the dominant religion.
Wrong, it was the Babylonians...Christianity had nothing to do with that being omitted.
This is one of those deep lore moments that shows just how spectacular this show was. When it comes to world building, few shows were equal to BSG.
As a fan of the original series, this show was tuff to watch. I think they saved it (4 the most part) but the whole Kara finding Earth based on the original song of the series was a funny touch. Also the writer not casting a black person in ANY role was a smack in the face. He saved it however buy them landing in Africa and finding nothing but black people. Then they lost it again by making mitochondria Eve a white female. WTS the show was a solid 6 and help launch Katee Sakolff's career.
@@craigharris41 Wasn't the actress who played Dualla black?
@Craig The Tech Guy What the hell are you talking about? One cylon model was played by a black guy.
@@thexneo3528 He's built his own myth.
@@craigharris41 a cylon, communications officer, all sorts of extras. And 1/2 the other non-black sure as hell weren't white.
It was a US/Canadian production, you know blacks are a minority within that demographic, correct?
I have watched BSG at least 6 times and every time I see something I missed. The most ethereal and intelligent series EVER made by far. Absolute brilliance and I never wanted it to end.
I love how pristine Galactica looked vs the progression of it's degradation over the course of the many seasons.
And this after it had been through a number of battles already too.
They did this to avoid making the same mistake as with Star Trek Voyager.
"......Though the outcome favored the few, it led to a confrontation... at the home of the gods......' -Pythia
I didn't know Sam Witwer was in bsg. 😀
Man, the mystical stuff was also heavier than I remember. Good stuff.
Careful Cylon
Starkiller is right behind you
Or, a vampire and Hawaii 5-0 fly in a Raptor. :D
It always bothered me how others got angels constantly, but Roslin got hallucinations and was taking drugs during a lot of them.
She had an angel once in a deleted scene, but it didn't make sense time-wise (as it took place between the start of a jump and the end, which happens instantly but lasted for several minutes in the scene).
I remember reading (in some fan fiction I think) that angels appear according to how much people (important) need them. That would explain why Baltar see 6 all time, he simply need so much care and control. I mean his role is of Judas AND Messiah at same time and he was walking above abyss more that others and played most dangerous games of them all(at least he wasn't pilot or he would need two angels all time). Anyway she is simply strong and capable enough to do it without their help most time. Aldo seeing invisible people could, with her medical state, made her think she is becoming crazy or tell someone about it. (Others keep it secret)
Finished this show yesterday. Fracking masterpiece. Bawled my eyes out at the end.
Great show Even though the ending was trash
@@cmj0929 The ending was pitch perfect.
So say we all.
i fracking dont get it
the series was good yes but, if you actually go and read about the writing there was no long term planning, that is why there are so many holes in it.
Oh man, I forgot Darth Maul and Starkiller we're in Season 4 of BSG!!
You know they did not make as big of a deal about this as I thought they would.
it must have been very impactful to have validation in your religion which gives a great renewal in your faith that the path your leading is a correct one.
Straight up brought me to tears
Sucks that they killed off Elosha retrospectively, she would've been a better mouthpiece for God and his messages to the colonials
The gods*
@@baekyum But there was only actually one in the story
Carmen Lynn no? They never said there was only one god in the story. The gods actually existed, as evidenced by their oracles in the show, and the city of the gods itself
@@baekyum Im talking about the One gods role in their whole journey. We only see the influence of one god. The other gods were moreso the groundwork for the colonials way of life before the holocaust and their exodus. In the last scene of the show, the messengers only refer to one god. In the lead up to what becomes our modern Earth, the one god is the abrahamic god
A Cylon and a Jedi?
Did they find FORTRAN and pascal too?
You know, I speak Fortran. Write(*,*)"Hello Kobol!"
DTHRocket IC
Well that’s pretty Basic, you C pascal...?
@@shanebethune9032 I think we should look for another LOGO elsewhere...
So did they originate on Kobol or was Kobol just another of the cycle?
It's unknown. The colonists believe humanity started on Kobol, but I agree on a fan theory that Kobol was just another rung on the ladder and that maybe humans originated from Earth, fled, colonized Kobol, fled that, founded the Colonies, etc. It's constantly in a loop of the serpent eating its tail.
Good Question in the original series Kobol was planet but Egypt!!!! I prefer that better Egypt was center of everything. Sumer was the first civilization.
@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf Earth was the home of 13 tribe which the tribe was the Cylons. The Planet that Starbuck was Earth
@@IWasaTeenageTeenWolf Well, they do say that it has all happened before, and will all happen again, so who was to say that it all started on Kobol?
Really need to ask it as I can't find the answer anywhere: why the Exodus of the 12 tribes from Kobol happened? What was the catastrophe that led to it? Was it a nuclear olocaust? And if yes between humans and cylons? And if so what happened to those cylons?
The 13th tribe was a cylon race and just like the show, they rebelled against their masters. Anyway, The 13th tribe didn’t nuke Kobol but they decided to leave to earth while the 12 tribes decided to leave Kobol to find a new home which was the 12 colonies.
“All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again” describe the nature of BSG universe
@@khlfful You didn't answer any of my questions and told me stuff that I already knew. But thanks anyway mate
The 13th tribe were cylons who left of their own freecwill due to conflict between them and the 12 tribes of humans. The lords of Kobol were involved in this conflict and some died so the remaining lords expelled the 12 tribea putting them in a starship called the galleon The lords of kobol are the gods of Greek mythology. There are no details of the conflict
@@dusco4mi
He literally answered all your questions. You just expected something different. Yes, there was a war between humans and Cylon, that's why the humans left and the legend of the 13th tribe is the cylons they created and fought against.
We don't really know what happened specifically in the war. Could be interpreted as some major disaster or just a big war that inspired both parties to abandon the world in order to make peace. Could be thermonuclear, but Kobol isn't an irradiated waste, so the nukes would have been in space or extremely limited.
@@renkol123 if i remember correctly it was said that Kobol had some radiation. That means there was a nuclear war just more then 2000 years before. Which is enough for planet to recover
Kobol? Not C++?
I think they should ASSEMBLE there.
@@FishKepr you think they should Go?
p Crem, We’re making code puns.
@@FishKepr you've never heard of "Go"?
p Crem: You mean the GO instruction? Oops! BTW, I didn’t get an alert on your reply. I wonder why.
EDIT: Just discovered there is an open source language called GO. Thanks.
The planet...is it Kobol?
While I loved this show, and its extremely superior to the original, not even close, way more content as well. The original had a better theme song and established the worlds, and i liked that the original cylons were Reptiles that created the robot cylons and then died off and never shut off the Robots or something. And to point out a flaw with 2004 series, it would be the humanoid cylons, especially the final 5. Characters like Saul Tigh were destroyed because now he's a Cylon, or was 2000 years ago, but he appears human done to the cellular level, so I'd say that is human...it was just stupid. But the show had great acting, powerful scenes, incredible music and Action. Besides not explaining how gravity worked on the ships and the FTL drive the show was pretty based in reality.
I always wondered about a TV show that named their origin planet after a 1960's computer language - COBOL (COmmon Business Oriented Language)
What? It's Kolob from Mormonism rearranged.
Are you so sure that COBOL wasn't unconsciously named after the planet we all started out from? *All this has happened before, and will happen again...*
Why couldn't they settle down here again?
Because the Cylons would nuke them down again
The Cylons were already lying in wait to ambush them on the surface.
The colonials believed a prophecy that return to kobol would result in death
@@tammymartinez7488 well, the prophecy was that every return to Kobol had a price in blood, and people died on the surface
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Proposal for Reboot. The Galactica and the the refugee fleet find Kobol. They suspect that they can explore Kobol without worrying about the Cylons behind them. Mainly as an act of caution, there is an agreement to send a standard week on Kobol. After the week plus one day, the fleet must evacuate. Oddly during the week, there is a discovery of a few building out of place among the ruins. The strange buildings have been recently constructed. Oddly the refugee fleet find the first evidence of Earth's existence. The evidence is that the buildings have been only built a year before the Refugee Fleet rediscover Kobol..
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i dont get how the planet location vasnt a well known fact?
lost over 2000, the fled kobol during their own cylon revolt. the humans fled to the 12 colonies and cylons to earth
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Jesus, for a decade i thought it was pronounced and spelled Kobolt
Kobol was Egypt in the Original Series!!!!
Poor crashdown.. had his soul destroyed because of some weird religious rules
Why didn't they settle down there instead of looking for earth ?
I believe there was a prophesy about how any attempt to re-colonize Kobol would spell death for everyone. Plus the fact the Cylons knew where it was and had it infested didn't help much either....
When they returned to Kobol, a Cylon basestar was in orbit so it wasn’t a safe place to settle.
lol
So a sub light space group left 2000 years ago and don't have a record? That much technology would allow for records and not just writing. Say 10k or 100k and it works. By their own admission, they made it up as they went. They have glaring issues. And you will not find a system with 12 planets in the habitat zone. So, is it 2 systems or more next to each other? Then how did sub light travel keep the colonies together? These are basic questions they needed to address. And yes, I liked the show and would TiVo it and watch as soon as I got home from work.
The Cyrannus System was four stars in synchronous orbit of each other. The twelve colonies were distributed amongst them, with several more planets not habitable, but utilised for their mineral resources. Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock, shows the map and gives the backstory.
@@Ishmachiah source please
@@tpl608 Re-read what I wrote. The source was listed.
@@Ishmachiah a game or books is not canon.
@@tpl608 if officially given the go ahead for release then yes it is
Why they didn’t stay there to leave ?
cylons already knew it and had forces on the planet.
Was this the first fake out they gave us?
The original series was 100 times better 😢
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Kobal has water
The thing I hated about BSG was the supernatural/mystic/religious element thewriters insisted on weaving into the fabric of the series. I respect that others loved it; I'm just saying I didn't.
I was fine with it until the final season when it felt like it jumped the shark.
Same. It just didnt work for me.
It was the showrunner who did this,i think hes Mormon/christian or something he wanted a GOD-esque arc in the series, which is why all this ANGEL, destiny was in the show.
the Original Battlestar series dint ahve that much god elements, but more scifi elements, the shworunner dint want that. I prefer the scifi elements over a CHRISTIAN themed series. Also by adding a 1 true god, they dismiss the other gods lore and mythology. a similar thing happens in supernatural show, introduced a 1-god, and then completely disregard the other mythologies.
The two original BSG series were rife with religious allusion. Lord Iblis was an overt Satan analogue. Any time one of the Lords of Kobol appeared, Apollo and Starbuck's rainment became white as snow (even their blasters). Then, Starbuck was raised from the dead and was the human father for the child named Dr. Z (messiah or prophet), who lead the colonies to the promised land in 1980.
You could make a Star Wars show or movie without the Force, and it can even be good storytelling, but if the Force is introduced (tail end of Rogue One), it shouldn't shock the audience.
13 colonies = first 13 states of US
No.
It's the 13 tribes of Israel, a lot of stuff in the show is similar to Latter-Day Saint Theology
The original series was a subtle promotion of Mormonism.
Only in the sense that it all happened before, and will all happen again.
Or, if history doesn't repeat, it will likely find a rhyme.....
no the origional battlestar galactica was based on the mormon stories of the lost tribes of israel, grand total 13 tribes (If you count Joseph as two)