Gosh! When you tilted the whole world 45 degrees you worked fast. I didn’t even notice. Normally it’s hard to do that without pushback from the public. It’s always “you fool, you’ve doomed us all!” Or “the tides will wipe out civilization!”. Bla bla bla… world ending, yadyadayada. Excellent work, Quinn! High kudos!
A morsel of wisdom I learned from my first machine shop teacher: for not-so-critical operations, you can just plonk a nice big magnet onto the side of your vise jaw as a quick-and-dirty end stop. Does much the same thing as using the 1-2-3 block but it's more convenient as it requires one fewer hand ;-)
Good idea to get a very small air compressor with a gun nozzle for your small shop or coolant mister to clear those pesky chips as you use your reamer. 🤔👍 Time to get a coolant mister like Abom's. Also for your angle block case issue. I adopted this idea from a friend. The two foam pads are creating a double sided soft spot. By removing the bottom foam mold and doing a silicone mold pour with standoffs to hold the tools up just enough to leave the tool proud. This creates a solid base for your tools to sit in and also holds them tight even in old school wooden tool cases.
I was hanging out with Schrodinger's cat last week and we had a conversation with your drill press vice and concluded he may, or may not have known, he was going to be the agent of his own demise. Love your videos Quinn :))
I am glad you did this project. I noticed that you have my own fault. I often see how I could have done something much easier, better, faster after I have done it the hard way. I like to think I was a lot smarter than this when I was younger but then you know how that is. No one was ever as good as they remember. Of course I do remember there was a time when I knew everything.
Worst part is as we age we tend to forget the "easier, better and faster" ways and do it the old slow, hard and complicated way again, especially if do not do the operation very frequently. Lol 😆
I like your Acme tap dance! It reminds me of Tom Lehrer's Masochism Tango. And, just for some masochism one-upmanship, absolutely nothing is worse than big Acme tapping in stainless. Oh, except maybe Inconel. I am deeply and profoundly grateful to never have had to do that.
Whatever you can say about Starret, their tap handles are amazing. The 91a and 91b Starrett tap handles are unquestionably my favorite tools, and I am a little embarrassed to say I get a kind of a thrill out of using them, they are so nicely finished with such a beautiful and precise knurl, and they just feel good in your hand. If you ever want to do a hot blue I have a stupid simple formula I would be happy to share.
Wow how would that go? Abom is much more experienced but growing up in a full machine shop probably not used to small fussy machines and very limited tooling. He would be frustrated at the very least.
Ahh, Abom would adapt. He does anyway. Even with the enormous machinery he has to work with, he's always making a custom fixture or whatever. And Quinn would be in a dream world, making teeny, tiny parts, far too small for the enormous lathes, and adapting new tools for that as well. ;-)
I watched Mr. Pete's Float-Lok Vice build and I am enjoying yours as much. It's useful to see two different machinists approaching the same problems with different solutions and making different ad hoc design decisions as the project progresses.
Very nice job on the vice. I particularly like how you solved the problem with the long acme thread. Well done. Now I'm sure you hear these stories all the time but when I started as a machinist apprentice, one of my first jobs was on a DoAll metal cutting bandsaw cutting up rough steel pieces for the tool and die makers to use in their process. My favorite accessory at the time was the float lock vice. A few years back I was able to find one at a yard sale for a very good price and I use it quite often now in my small machine shop. That was in 1955 and I have been in the machine shop business ever cents. I will let you do the math. Again, well done
Nice work. Sometimes they make separate roughing and finishing acme taps because it's just too much to cut in one pass. The toolmaker vice bolt was angled up more than 45 putting more force down vs. clamping. Moving to the next cross hole might give more clamp force to the jaw. Yes, you could have swiveled the vice on the angle plate but that would have been some nasty 3d trig to get the angles. This way was simpler.
Quinn...you always do pretty work. Take a tip from an old tool & die maker and use Crisco vegetable shortening instead of thread cutting fluid. You can even power-tap large taps using this. A buddy of mine used to work with an old machinist at a heavy equipment manufacturer (Back Hoes, Tractors, etc. The old man turned them onto that trick, because they were busting those big taps, and they were expensive, he said. They saw how much better it worked, they bought out most of the grocery stores in our town, for Crisco vegetable shortening...till they could get the ordering set-up there. My buddy told me and I tried it. I got my boss in on it and I did at home, for hobbies. Get a plastic pill bottle and cram it full. Just dip the tap right into the pill bottle of Crisco and tap normally. You'll be amazed on how nice it cuts and it doesn't make a mess, either!
Editor Quinn, Camera Quinn simply just wanted to use that cool grinding vise for something and so we could all see it used! No problem 😁 Edit: Oh I almost forgot, nicely done Quinn.
Wasn't expecting a tap dance. Bonus. Neato insight with the tap/broach comparison! Have you thought about how you're going to break the news to the old vise? Tough love
It is all in how you sell it to the old vise. If she tells it that it is the new drill press supervisor and that it is getting a new office where it can supervise drill press operations, all should be well in the shop. At least that is how it seems in the companies I have worked in.
Really beautiful work! I want to make one now. I think you made an excellent choice in upgrading to ACME thread. It'll work better and last forever. One suggestion...I read through 300+ comments and didn't see this one - I would have made about half that thread as a clearance hold. Having a little over 1/2" or 5 threads of ACME would be just as strong as threading the full length, from my understanding, and it would've been a lot less work threading. Normal 1/2-10 ACME nuts are 1/2" thick. I knew you weren't going to hurt that tap wrench, but if had any flaws in it, I could see that tap breaking.
On your angle pieces in your box try putting earth magnets in your metal box and then covering them with belt or something to hold your angles to the box love those magnets I use this method to hold batteries in plastic cases for my digital calipers still works.
Quinn you do outstanding work!!!I don’t know if you ever used TAP MAGIC. Tapping fluid but it does a great job of relieving the pressure of hand tapping
Great work on the acme thread lathe work it's no small task and shouldn't be underestimated. It's a recurring theme that you push the limits of your equipment and I appreciate the level of difficulty it adds to the projects you tackle with respect. Thanks for showing it's not necessary to have hugely expensive machine tools to make very impressive parts by applying good practices and skill. Keep up the great content Thanks
I've got a couple of those Starrett tap wrenches and I agree, they can REALLY dig into your hands when using it. You haven't seen a good tap dance til I have to clean the galvanizing out of a 1 1/4-7 tapped hole. Lots of back and forth and the longest cresent wrench I can find!
Hack for next time you have to plumb up a tap like that in your drill press. Assuming you haven't beaten up your tap wrench with extension pipes or anything, you can use a magnetic angle finder on the arm of the tap wrench. Tare it to the press table, stick it on the wrench arm and then move the vise to get it to zero. When you have that at 0 in two 90 degree directions you are perfectly aligned.
A finish I've come to prefer is an old timey blacksmith's tool blackening. Heat the part with a propane torch or charcoal fire (dull red is too hot) and dunk it in some sort of oil. Do this several times (more dunks = thicker coating) and your part will build up a hard, durable carbon coating that holds oil well. It will look gray in process but as soon as that final coat of oil hits it, it will turn jet black. Best to do this outside because there's lots of smoke and even flames, in fact if the dunk oil catches fire on the part after a dunk then that's even better because it's more efficiently converting the hydrocarbons to carbon.
I used to work in a small shop and really miss it. But one of our machinists passed away and the other is retired. Thanks for reminding me of the good times.
Quinn, Nice job your doing there. Yeah, I just about didn't get the Acme threaded hole tapped in mine when I made mine two years ago! Will say, there's a big difference tapping gummy 1018 verses 4140. You can get better chip control even though it is tough to tap! KenS.
Nice work Quinn. I took a slightly different approach with the tapped hole. I drilled the nominal size and then only because I had one, ran a 7/16" Acme tap through and then the 1/2-10 Acme tap.
if you percieve to much play in the thread for your liking you can put a acme nut on there. with spacers you can pretty well controll the play then - like big CNC mills - they have two spindle nuts screwed together with spacers inbetween to take out play in the thread - thats more of a CNC maschine and maschine axis thing
Great show love it. Still have my "T" tap wrench with fitted handle extensions made in 1973. First thing I did. Still surprised the handles are so short when you buy one. This is Blondihacks, a little surprised you left extending the handles until now!
enjoyed…nice build…suggestion, make it so you can use a drill to open/close quickly for large movements, also make a fixture to slide/swivel to hold vice to the table, I did a video on my setup
Tapping acme threads can be nerve-wracking! I was building a project last year that needed a very long internal thread, and the new acme tap I bought just couldn't handle it. I knew it was close to snapping off, and was more concerned with keeping a good tap than finishing the project. I actually started single pointing it, but the diameter/depth meant that I ran out of rigidity very quickly.
That was the best dang acme tap dance I've ever seen.
any episode in which swarfy the duck make an appearance always leaves me with a big grin :D
Gosh! When you tilted the whole world 45 degrees you worked fast. I didn’t even notice. Normally it’s hard to do that without pushback from the public. It’s always “you fool, you’ve doomed us all!” Or “the tides will wipe out civilization!”. Bla bla bla… world ending, yadyadayada. Excellent work, Quinn! High kudos!
A morsel of wisdom I learned from my first machine shop teacher: for not-so-critical operations, you can just plonk a nice big magnet onto the side of your vise jaw as a quick-and-dirty end stop. Does much the same thing as using the 1-2-3 block but it's more convenient as it requires one fewer hand ;-)
@@ellieprice363 I've done that but every little bit of steel in the shop ends up on them.
Getting to watch this as soon as it dropped is a surprise benefit of my insomnia
make beautiful projects, making videos like this takes time and a lot of effort. For that they must be appreciated
Good idea to get a very small air compressor with a gun nozzle for your small shop or coolant mister to clear those pesky chips as you use your reamer. 🤔👍 Time to get a coolant mister like Abom's. Also for your angle block case issue. I adopted this idea from a friend. The two foam pads are creating a double sided soft spot. By removing the bottom foam mold and doing a silicone mold pour with standoffs to hold the tools up just enough to leave the tool proud. This creates a solid base for your tools to sit in and also holds them tight even in old school wooden tool cases.
But then it wouldn’t be funny
Your videos is the highlight of the week. Just this once I was unable to watch it when it was published.
I was hanging out with Schrodinger's cat last week and we had a conversation with your drill press vice and concluded he may, or may not have known, he was going to be the agent of his own demise. Love your videos Quinn :))
I am glad you did this project. I noticed that you have my own fault. I often see how I could have done something much easier, better, faster after I have done it the hard way. I like to think I was a lot smarter than this when I was younger but then you know how that is. No one was ever as good as they remember. Of course I do remember there was a time when I knew everything.
Worst part is as we age we tend to forget the "easier, better and faster" ways and do it the old slow, hard and complicated way again, especially if do not do the operation very frequently. Lol 😆
I have to say that is the best dancing I have seen today. Use that information as you wish.
Your tools are always so clean and nice. Rust has decided it hates my life, no matter how much cleaning, how much dehumidifying, how much protecting.
I watched Mr. Pete make this and now I am enjoying your presentation of the same device. It is looking GREAT!!
Yay! It's Blondihacks time!
20:30 - some beautiful corners!
I like your Acme tap dance! It reminds me of Tom Lehrer's Masochism Tango. And, just for some masochism one-upmanship, absolutely nothing is worse than big Acme tapping in stainless. Oh, except maybe Inconel. I am deeply and profoundly grateful to never have had to do that.
It has been a lot of years since I have heard Tom Lehrer's name. Sure brings back memoried.
She can raise welts like nobody else
At 3:28: There's always ONE.... lol Oh, Quinn, you're SUCH A HOOT!
Whatever you can say about Starret, their tap handles are amazing. The 91a and 91b Starrett tap handles are unquestionably my favorite tools, and I am a little embarrassed to say I get a kind of a thrill out of using them, they are so nicely finished with such a beautiful and precise knurl, and they just feel good in your hand.
If you ever want to do a hot blue I have a stupid simple formula I would be happy to share.
I think your dance had a nice twist to it. At the end you had a great groove going on. All the way through.
In an alternate universe somewhere, Quinn and Abom have swapped shops and machine tools, and oh what a weird universe that would be
Wow how would that go? Abom is much more experienced but growing up in a full machine shop probably not used to small fussy machines and very limited tooling. He would be frustrated at the very least.
Ahh, Abom would adapt. He does anyway. Even with the enormous machinery he has to work with, he's always making a custom fixture or whatever.
And Quinn would be in a dream world, making teeny, tiny parts, far too small for the enormous lathes, and adapting new tools for that as well. ;-)
Sometimes you learn by your misstakes. Sometimes you learn by your videos. Thanks for another nice video!
“Ambitious Chamfering Plans” is my new metal band name.
I watched Mr. Pete's Float-Lok Vice build and I am enjoying yours as much. It's useful to see two different machinists approaching the same problems with different solutions and making different ad hoc design decisions as the project progresses.
You really have a pleasant voice and way of presenting. Good editing too. 🤩
I've watched you for awhile. You are actually a highly skilled machinist. You have a very nice shop, as well.
Great video. I enjoyed your “Tap” dancing too.
Mr Pete would be proud great job so farc
Very nice job on the vice. I particularly like how you solved the problem with the long acme thread. Well done. Now I'm sure you hear these stories all the time but when I started as a machinist apprentice, one of my first jobs was on a DoAll metal cutting bandsaw cutting up rough steel pieces for the tool and die makers to use in their process. My favorite accessory at the time was the float lock vice. A few years back I was able to find one at a yard sale for a very good price and I use it quite often now in my small machine shop. That was in 1955 and I have been in the machine shop business ever cents. I will let you do the math. Again, well done
Nice work. Sometimes they make separate roughing and finishing acme taps because it's just too much to cut in one pass. The toolmaker vice bolt was angled up more than 45 putting more force down vs. clamping. Moving to the next cross hole might give more clamp force to the jaw. Yes, you could have swiveled the vice on the angle plate but that would have been some nasty 3d trig to get the angles. This way was simpler.
The vise bolt should be perpendicular to its face. At 18:45 it is clearly too steep. That is a PITA with those vises.
Nice opening Quinn. 1:48 ah yes to not do 'the thing' with calipers. The vise is coming along nicely.
Nice job. Good video.
Luv to hear from Swarfy the Duck. Awesome video as usual.
Quinn...you always do pretty work. Take a tip from an old tool & die maker and use Crisco vegetable shortening instead of thread cutting fluid. You can even power-tap large taps using this.
A buddy of mine used to work with an old machinist at a heavy equipment manufacturer (Back Hoes, Tractors, etc. The old man turned them onto that trick, because they were busting those big taps, and they were expensive, he said. They saw how much better it worked, they bought out most of the grocery stores in our town, for Crisco vegetable shortening...till they could get the ordering set-up there. My buddy told me and I tried it. I got my boss in on it and I did at home, for hobbies. Get a plastic pill bottle and cram it full. Just dip the tap right into the pill bottle of Crisco and tap normally. You'll be amazed on how nice it cuts and it doesn't make a mess, either!
i used to make this style but for making chain pullers in sawmill. solid design
Great job Quinn!
Love the duck speach!
It's coming along nicely!
Thanks, and Meow to Sprocket.
Editor Quinn, Camera Quinn simply just wanted to use that cool grinding vise for something and so we could all see it used! No problem 😁 Edit: Oh I almost forgot, nicely done Quinn.
Editor Quinn is so full of grace. Learned something there.
Wasn't expecting a tap dance. Bonus.
Neato insight with the tap/broach comparison!
Have you thought about how you're going to break the news to the old vise? Tough love
It is all in how you sell it to the old vise. If she tells it that it is the new drill press supervisor and that it is getting a new office where it can supervise drill press operations, all should be well in the shop. At least that is how it seems in the companies I have worked in.
I’ll tell it it is going to go live on a farm where it can run free with all the other vises
@@Blondihacks that is even better. Thanks for the chuckle 😃
Really beautiful work! I want to make one now. I think you made an excellent choice in upgrading to ACME thread. It'll work better and last forever. One suggestion...I read through 300+ comments and didn't see this one - I would have made about half that thread as a clearance hold. Having a little over 1/2" or 5 threads of ACME would be just as strong as threading the full length, from my understanding, and it would've been a lot less work threading. Normal 1/2-10 ACME nuts are 1/2" thick. I knew you weren't going to hurt that tap wrench, but if had any flaws in it, I could see that tap breaking.
Hey! Cheap drill press vice!! guess what!!!
You do a good job accompanying your big drill friend :)
Thank you for the 25 min show. It’s always a fun journey
Lovin the Tap Dance!
On your angle pieces in your box try putting earth magnets in your metal box and then covering them with belt or something to hold your angles to the box love those magnets I use this method to hold batteries in plastic cases for my digital calipers still works.
Nicely done Quinn.👍👍
Fantastic workshop and damn mad fabrication skills, with some nice sense of humor. Enjoying your channel a lot, sister! :)
Another quality addition to your machine shop well done.
Smooth one step, good leverage.
That is one very nice tilt table.
Quinn you do outstanding work!!!I don’t know if you ever used TAP MAGIC. Tapping fluid but it does a great job of relieving the pressure of hand tapping
Yup that’s what I use
Just got a similar mill and lathe in the uk 🇬🇧 so I’m going to be doing all the videos to make everything
Great work on the acme thread lathe work it's no small task and shouldn't be underestimated. It's a recurring theme that you push the limits of your equipment and I appreciate the level of difficulty it adds to the projects you tackle with respect. Thanks for showing it's not necessary to have hugely expensive machine tools to make very impressive parts by applying good practices and skill. Keep up the great content Thanks
Very pretty, the vise turned out nicely as well!
Those chamfered corners really do look great! Made me smile. Thanks
I just love this channel...
Lots to learn and lots of laughs.
Acme victory dance and other fine performances.
I am glade you showed how to set up the compound angle for us without rotating tilt tables.
That angled table made my mouth water.
I've got a couple of those Starrett tap wrenches and I agree, they can REALLY dig into your hands when using it. You haven't seen a good tap dance til I have to clean the galvanizing out of a 1 1/4-7 tapped hole. Lots of back and forth and the longest cresent wrench I can find!
Chamfers are what elevates us above the animals and that is some elevation.
Perfect Acme shimmy. 10/10
Hack for next time you have to plumb up a tap like that in your drill press. Assuming you haven't beaten up your tap wrench with extension pipes or anything, you can use a magnetic angle finder on the arm of the tap wrench. Tare it to the press table, stick it on the wrench arm and then move the vise to get it to zero. When you have that at 0 in two 90 degree directions you are perfectly aligned.
A finish I've come to prefer is an old timey blacksmith's tool blackening. Heat the part with a propane torch or charcoal fire (dull red is too hot) and dunk it in some sort of oil. Do this several times (more dunks = thicker coating) and your part will build up a hard, durable carbon coating that holds oil well. It will look gray in process but as soon as that final coat of oil hits it, it will turn jet black. Best to do this outside because there's lots of smoke and even flames, in fact if the dunk oil catches fire on the part after a dunk then that's even better because it's more efficiently converting the hydrocarbons to carbon.
Nice job Quinn.
Cheeter bars - a prime example of "if force doesn't work, use more force!" :)
the amount of times I've gleed over a new pop up of your video (always at the right time I must add) is ridiculous 😁
"then it wouldn't be funny", words I live by!
Good work as always. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
I used to work in a small shop and really miss it. But one of our machinists passed away and the other is retired.
Thanks for reminding me of the good times.
Thanks Quinn
Cleverly thought out and nicely machined. Thanks for the video.
Quinn,
Nice job your doing there. Yeah, I just about didn't get the Acme threaded hole tapped in mine when I made mine two years ago! Will say, there's a big difference tapping gummy 1018 verses 4140. You can get better chip control even though it is tough to tap! KenS.
@ 9:30 Agreed.
You can buy rougher and finishing acme taps.
Nice work Quinn. I took a slightly different approach with the tapped hole. I drilled the nominal size and then only because I had one, ran a 7/16" Acme tap through and then the 1/2-10 Acme tap.
Many ways to sk ... ahem ... chamfer a part, and your corners are awesome!
if you percieve to much play in the thread for your liking you can put a acme nut on there. with spacers you can pretty well controll the play then - like big CNC mills - they have two spindle nuts screwed together with spacers inbetween to take out play in the thread - thats more of a CNC maschine and maschine axis thing
About a hundred sweet tips in this in quick cadence. Amazingly good. //ji
Great show love it.
Still have my "T" tap wrench with fitted handle extensions made in 1973.
First thing I did.
Still surprised the handles are so short when you buy one.
This is Blondihacks, a little surprised you left extending the handles until now!
That taping looks like a good workout.
Beautiful job.
the dance scene cut was the best
enjoyed…nice build…suggestion, make it so you can use a drill to open/close quickly for large movements, also make a fixture to slide/swivel to hold vice to the table, I did a video on my setup
The latter is part of the float lock design
Thanks for another great video. I have wanted one of these vises for years, but I'm not really set up to make one yet, but could sure use it now. :)
WHoooooooo, that's a nice tap! I've priced those things and holy smokes they want an arm and a leg for acme taps.
You never disappoint us. Great channel, thank you
So this vice design comes with a free upper-body workout too? Nice!
You do amazing work
Dont feel bad about the pipes! Every toolmaker I know has them, its a must have item!
Can't use a Allen wrench without a piece of 1/2" EMT. It's in Machinery's Handbook
I machined a softball sized D20 die for a friend. That was a lifetime's worth of compound angle cutting.
You can soak the stock in vinegar overnight to remove the mill scale and make finishing the un-machined bits easier.
THIS INFO IS RIGHT ON TIME FOR ME.
Thankyou 👍
2:03 Quinn! All dimensions are critical in metalwork. 😉
Тиски на фрезере понравились. 👍
Tapping acme threads can be nerve-wracking! I was building a project last year that needed a very long internal thread, and the new acme tap I bought just couldn't handle it. I knew it was close to snapping off, and was more concerned with keeping a good tap than finishing the project. I actually started single pointing it, but the diameter/depth meant that I ran out of rigidity very quickly.
Awesome video
Spider cameo at 22:22 on the top of the grinder :D
Wow- good eye. I never noticed
This is just pure gold. But what was that endmill at 18:27??? Ive never seen wavy flutes like that.
keep it up, great work... my cold blueing is functional but not what i would call "good" looking. i am cleaning with IPA maybe i should try acetone.
As always awesome content , thank you