Springfield Prodigy Shootout! 5 vs 425
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- In this unscientific video, I (Nobody, Hi how are you?) determine which version of the Prodigy (5" vs 425) gets back on target the best. There are things that I should have done differently in the video, like have a better shooter perform the test....but anyway. Enjoy the vid
A most excellent unbiased review on two awesome high capacity handguns. Thank you. PEACE
Which one better ?
love the rambling! learning a lot! keep going!
Solid video! Thanks for the comparison. Would love to see an update?
great video. personally i avoid any holster with a thumb release. i just picked up the 4.25….rock on
I really like my Safariland with my glock. Well made and works great. But I also have several holsters that are passive (trex) and have zero complaints about them! Just depends on what I’m doing. I’ve seen my fair share of pistols hop out and hit the ground when running around. So sometimes I like a little overkill 🤣
I appreciate you watching and putting up with me!
I’ve been going and forth on the 5 vs 4.25 DS and now im fully set on getting the 5. That will be my next purchase.
Great video. You have the most info for the Prodigy by far than any other channel I follow. I hope you do a follow up with the Ragnarok. I’m looking to order the Staccato/Blackhawk 2011 holster for my 5” Prodigy. Since lockup sets on the light, this pistol works in my T-Series L3D RDS with the TLR-1. I also have X300 lights which is what the Staccato holster uses. Unlike Safariland, the Blackhawk holsters I have are light specific. Granted my holsters will fit the pistol and light but there is forward and rearward play in the holster. Once my RMR plate comes in I’ll see how it fairs. Great videos man. Take care.
When is the rmr plates shipping out I placed my order beginning of September
Thank, RR. I'll definitely follow up with the Ragnarök and plan on it's actual use in other vids...if she runs like I'm hoping.
Post back once your plate comes in. Sharing info is important and it helps others.
I noticed in the slow motion portion that the 5" had a "bounce" after the slide cycled forward, the 4.25" didn't bounce. Pick one, learn it well, shoot straight.
I've never owned a 19/2011. I'm familiar with striker styles. The 4.25 has been amazing so far. I didn't know they were this awesome. Great video and review.
I liked nobody, till he said he was a Glock shooter. Seriously tho, good content. A lot of it helped me get my prodigy running 100%.
I have to have at least one vice 😉
Thanks again for another project video. Have you tried a 12# spring in the 5” yet? I finally got one and I put it in this weekend but haven’t shot it yet. I predict it will be a little more “snappy”, but that remains to be seen. Also, I ordered a Tier 1 holster, but the turnaround is 30-45 business days. I’ll let you know when it comes in!
You bet, Matthew. So I ran a 12 when I did the 9lb/12lb comparison vid. It is a little snappier but very shootable. But I still have the 9 in so I can see what she will do. Please keep us posted on the holster.
@@nobodytraining you know I will, for sure! Keep me in the loop if you happen to come across an extended slide lock lever. I’ve found one so far, but I can’t justify paying $56 for it.
@@matthewvolpe7515 machining is expensive. If you’ve only found 1 so far you might have to bite the bullet and go for it
On the ALS holster perhaps you could find a way to lengthen the button to disengage the lock and that would have your thumb at a higher position once pulling the pistol.
I started messing with it and doing the modification…and then just stopped. I was doing too many other things and it just fell to the wayside.
The otd mod is very quick and easy .
For classes and range toy. 5” or 4.25? Mostly 115 gr
Classes / range 5”, carry 4.25”
does the 4.25 come factory with the 12lb spring
That is correct
The recoil looks less on 4.25 and looks faster. The slide deffinalty returns fadter then the 5 inch. But thats a given that the 4.25 is faster pistol.
Which do you find that cycles faster?
The 425 cycles faster but the 5 seems to have a more natural return to point of aim for me. But I love the feel of the 425
Is this gun review or holster review
Has anyone put a lighter hammer spring in the 4.25? I’m thinking about trying it but don’t know what weight to go with.
I’m running a 19lb in mine right now. A 17LB is available as well. I get mine from EGW.
@@nobodytraining Thanks for the quick response, does it make a difference in trigger pull? My Prodigy is just barely ejecting the brass but I think the recoil spring is a good weight so I’m thinking of putting a lighter hammer spring in to help the slide come back faster in recoil.
Take this with a grain of salt because I’m in no ways a 1911/2011 expert. This is just my thoughts…
If the hammer/sear engagement surfaces are set up correctly you should see minimal to no effect on your trigger pull. When going lighter on the mainspring you want to make sure that the hammer still hits hard enough to ignite the primer and that the recoil cycle isn’t battering the slide and frame excessively. If you want to lighten trigger pull you’ll want to look at a number of things. 1-replace the hammer and sear with a good brand. I like EGW. They have an ignition kit that is hammer/sear/disco/mainspring/leaf spring that is good quality. 2-polish your trigger bow and disco and then tweak the sear spring a tad.
As for the ejection, it comes down to slide speed usually. A lighter main and recoil spring may do the trick depending on how far you want to eject the brass. The ammo you are shooting may be playing a roll in this fyi. Fast FPS yields greater ejection. How far is it ejecting? Is it consistent? If the gun is reliably ejecting 2+ feet with no issues is it worth messing with. That a question you have to answer 🤣
@@nobodytraining Thanks for the detailed response, I need to put some defensive ammo through it first and see how it does. As far as what it does currently, it’s been 100% reliable with range ammo through about 325ish rounds but it’s only throwing the brass maybe 2 feet away. I did some disconnect or polishing and sear spring tuning to get rid of the catch and that worked.
No problem. I try to help. Often a hinderance! 🤣 The JHPs will toss the rounds a lot farther. It sounds like you are on right track with testing and seeing it’s performance. Keep me posted on what you end up with
Are G17 holsters compatible with Prodigy 5''?
It’s not. The Prod is taller. Look for a full rail/dust cover 2011 holster.
Where did u buy the slide spring?
There have been 3 places I’ve been buying springs. Direct from ISMI, Brownells, and Wilson Combat. Actually I’ve bought extra power firing pin springs from Wolff as well
@nobodytraining thanks boss anyway you can give me the part # I have a 5 inch also no problems yet but just in case
@msmtepesvoyvoda3541 EGWguns.com sku#10609. That is for the stock 9#
Did you happen to see if the Safariland SLS would work better than the ALS?
I didn't, Robert. I basically said to myself that the Safariland isn't working so time to order a TRex holster. And nothing else was thought of after that point. But if it for some reason I don't like it, I can look into that.
Do you have experience with the SLS? If so, do tell.
@@nobodytraining I have some experience with them. The release forces you to push down and forward before drawing the pistol. So maybe that will help with having your thumb in the right place to take the safety off.
@@robertgarcia6561 hmmmmm….have you run a 1911/2011 with one?
@@nobodytraining a year or so ago with my 1911. It was my buddies rig, but I remember it felt better than a ALS
@@robertgarcia6561 I now have a back up plan! Thanks for the heads up on the sls
Is that New Mexico???
Nope. Northern Utah.
Are you running the factory mags?
Yes
@@nobodytraining thank you for the response. I’m getting the feeling that the hate on the prodigy is being overdone. I may just pick one up. Pray it’s fine or send it to SA for warranty work, besides I’m the type to always change and add parts to my liking.
@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 No problem! If you are willing to spend a little bench time you can get it to be a really nice pistol. I did that with the factory parts first. Then played with upgrades.
@@nobodytraining but overall it’s reliable enough for home defense?
@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 I have my 425 tested and set up to run jacket hollowpoint. I did a series of videos on it. But basically like any home defense pistol, you will want to test the reliability yourselves before you put it into service.
What holster are you using?
It’s a TRex Arms Ragnarok for the Staccato. It took some playing with and adjusting to make it work. Unfortunately I haven’t seen it available for a while.
“Steel doesn’t lie”. Christopher Steele does, and he got away with it.
Lol! I guess I should have been a little more specific. AR500 plate doesn’t lie
I love this video hahahah
Oo so your into long range shooting. Milk jug challenge 1400 yards. Doping the wind it's a challenge.
Some day…and maybe it will be a series of vids…
I’ve watched some of the LRSU vids and it’s pretty interesting. Honestly don’t know if I have the patience for long range but its on my list to try
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Hm.. Shouldn't have watched your video...... I want 5 Inch ds now too 🤣😂
I’m so sorry! I decided to start a support group for the people who had to buy more guns after they watched my vids. I’ll let you know when the first meeting is
Well done sir!! Keep ‘em coming please!👍🏻
@@JC-hd4rj I’ll do my best!
I’ve been debating which one to get for a couple weeks. This video is my determining factor. Ordering the 5” right now. Literally lol
@six66string what made you get that over the 4 25?
I see you are having tough time filling 10 min. of video with content throw in slow mo!
SLO mo, fast forward and awkward pauses are all tools in my arsenal!
Everyone runs the 5 inch with a x300 I run mine with a Modlite pl350 nothing looks better than that setup lol jk
Now you did it! I’m responding with a video so watch out Eddie! ;)
What is a Glock? Never heard of it! Jk.
Lol. Otherwise known as Tupperware guns. And one of the best guns ever made
Just leave the safety off on the safariland holster
I've watched a guy down at FrontSight years ago who sent a round down his leg because he didn't have the safety on and then curled his finger into the trigger guard. He took a helicopter flight to Vegas with that one. Granted I could do it but gotta do the safety blah blah blah stuff.
That is horrible advice.
If a gun is in the holster and equipped with a manual safety, it should be engaged. Only when bringing the pistol to the eyeline should it be disengaged.
Same goes for a rifle with a sling. If the rifle is slung and stored close to the body, it should be on safe. Again, only when bringing the gun to your eyeline should the safety be disengaged.
Go ahead and argue grip safety...please.
@@twistinprops604 safety is always paramount. I’m not allowed to come home with any extra holes…or give anyone else an extra hole. Unless they deserve it. There is that caveat.
Finger is your safety don’t put your finger in the trigger lol
Yeah I was just messing with you on that comment
I wish you guys would stop hyping this trouble ridden gun. Like people aren’t still have huge qc issues.
I find this comment amazing. You obviously have not looked at the channel and seen all of the videos of me fixing the gun that I was 'hyping' and showing people who were having the same issues how I did the work. As a matter of fact, the first video I ever recorded was how I fixed my 5" Prodigy. I bought these with my own money the first week they came out based off of the big Tubers hyping the guns. I've since spent a lot of time making videos helping people who are experiencing issues. So do you still want me to stop hyping? "Well your motivation is money blah blah blah" I don't make a single cent off of this. I will hype the fact the gun is a great platform once the issues are worked out.
I like to assume the best about people. So I'm now going to wait and see if you are the man that I hope you are.
Welcome to the Tinkerer’s Church! The crazy thing about the Prodigy is that the issues are all over the place. It’s not just a few consistent problems. I had some light primer strikes on the 4.25” and found sandblast grit in the firing pin channel and a small burr on the firing pin hole. After that no light primer.
The Prodigy instilled in me to detail strip, inspect, and clean before anything else. Best lessons are learned the hard way!
Bought mine used , no issues in 500 plus rounds. Oooh, and the guy who traded it in also traded a Stacatto p in , asked him (i know him), which one shot better. I was told to save my money and get the Prodigy. Glad i did .