Old Spanish Miners in Uinta Mountains, Utah - Geology of Limestone
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- This video discuses Old Spanish Miners in the Uinta Mountains, located in the Uintah Basin of North Eastern, Utah. In this video you will be shown very old Spanish Mines and Treasure Symbols carved onto trees. The trees are Ponderosa Pine and can live up to 600 years old.
In this video you will learn the geology of how Carbonate Rocks (Limestone) is formed. You will also learn about Metamorphic Skarn Rock and how it is deposited in Carbonate Rocks.
In this video you will learn about the Western Interior Seaway, here is a link to a great video by Geologist Myron Cook that explains this Seaway in much greater detail; • How Geologists Discove...
*** In the opening of the video, I talk about handling Spanish Artifacts that have came from the Uinta Mountains. I have personally handled Canon Balls and a piece from an old Canon that was broken (probably from being thrown from the side of a cliff by Indians). I have not personally handled Armor or Swords, but friends/family have. Just wanted to clarify for integrity reasons and make the distinction. The way I worded everything in the video could lead people to believe I have personally handled all four, which I have not. I wish they would change the antiquities laws, this would encourage people to disclose this type of stuff and allow archeological studies.
Spent every summer treasure hunting and prospecting all over those mountains. Best childhood ever!
What luxury time that must have been Robin. Experiencing great nature and at the same time treasure hunting, best of two worlds.
You are so right about hiking your stress away!! We are in our 70’s and LOVE hiking in God’s magnificent creation!! Start young and keep hiking!!
You are truly an inspiration to all of us. I hardly ever see younger people while out exploring around, which is a shame. They just hardly ever get out, unless it involves a side by side or something like that. I believe there will be long term physical/mental consequences for this. Maybe I'm over thinking it, but who knows.
I only hope I can do the same as you when I am in my 70's. Bless you and thanks.
Another great post by one of the very best story tellers on TH-cam. Thanks again for this!
Thank you very much Orrin Kahn.
My dad sold insurance to a guy up there who found a Spanish musket laying on the ground with the wood rotted off the stock.
My grandfather and his friend found Gold in one of the canyons by Rock Creek Canyon during the 1940s or late 1930s before he died. He was an prospector from back east and came to the Uintah Basin looking for gold. He also found beryllium in northeastern Utah. Great video!
Yep, one of my ancestors found a mine too. But later he couldn't find it again. They always say they found it but can never prove it and it never amounts to anything. Such a goofy aspect of Utah culture
Thank you for your wonderful videos , My health has been poor for a couple of years now , and my hiking days are long gone unfortunately , so these videos are appreciated , thank you for sharing so much knowledge !
Your welcome sir and my pleasure.
True that, I love outdoor adventures like prospecting and hiking. It's definitely a natural medicine.
Absolutely! Nothing like it.
@@LowBudgetExploration We should do a collaboration.
Maybe someday, for now i just like to roam around by myself. It's my way of "unwinding".
@@LowBudgetExploration It's all good. You wouldn't be able to keep up with me anyway.
LOL, probably not. I watch your videos, you go to some really cool stuff.
The best, sweetest, and most clear water I have ever tasted was located in the Uinta Mountains near the Boy Scout Camp.
Lol. That's not very high up there.
You do a great Job Narrating these Videos ... Kudos
Thank you very much!
Fascinating Chris.. love your videos
Thank you Patsy!!
The geology lessons that you teach are top notch! 👍
Thank you sir. I'm not a certified Geologist, I just study Geology because it helps me out with what I do. I really appreciate the compliment.
I'm in south eastern idaho, my grandfather a prospector found a cache of Spanish/Mexico silver coins in northern Utah mountains. I'm talking back in 1900's
Did you see any of the coins?
I have wanted to find a Spanish cross up there my whole life. I’ve been all over the north slope, shot a few elk up there. Not as much time on the south. Looks like you’re lower elevation on the south slope. Super interesting. I grew up on the ghost stories of the gold mines up there. Caleb Rhoades and all that. I did my Eagle Scout project on the trail from the east fork over bald mountain to the smiths fork. Love it up there.
There is not too many left on trees. People get all excited over markings on quaky trees, but they only live 80-120 years, so none could be real. All the real markings (Old Pine Trees) have been cut down, burned in forest fires or are almost dead. Lot's of history gone my friend.
Nice video, thank you ... Enjoying the lessons that you are sharing... Howdy from the Gold Hill mining district of southwestern Oregon. ⛏⚒⛏
Your welcome and I wish you the best of luck on your prospecting.
The first time Ive seen you. Very good info with your video. Great job explaining the geography. Thanks! 😊
I meant "geology". Oops
In groves of junipers , if a lot are brown and dead surrounded by junipers with brown curled tops can indicate a underground deposit of precious metals, something the Spanish looked for according to some text . Sometimes located near blowouts on ridges .
Worked all over the Uinta Mountains, used to seismograph over there walked all over that country.
Very cool. I envy you. That would be my dream job. LOL.
What did you find? What did you see?
Did you see "lost cliff dweller canyon" located on the "Res". Spent a bit of time out there doing the "Heli-portable" seismic drilling. (Out of Loveland Co.) Ward family were good folks to work for..
Were you able to see the "Glyphs" located on the Res. At lost cliff dweller canyon. About 90 miles south easterly of Vernal..speaking with tribal representitives who shared cursed gold and silver mines.
I know where your talking about, please don't give out the locations. Idiots will go there and carve their names in the rock and etc. I believe they are a map created by the Spaniards. I've studied it on several occasions, but couldn't make heads or tails of it. Very cool site.
This was so amazing. You taught me things I didn't know. This is so interesting. I want to see more and learn.
The crosses on the trees are legal survey markings for Spanish properties. They used that system throughout all of the Americas during the 17th and 18th centuries.
Awesome video Chris. Wish I could have caught up with ya when you were in the area.
I also wanted to say I'm also sorry for your resent loss in your family. My heart goes out to all in the family. It makes me feel my age for sure, and I hope the good Lord sees fit to let me stay longer on this old earth.
To bad the idiot cut all those trees down. I'm just thankful I got to see many of them before he did.
Until next time take care and God bless you and yours.
Cat
Many thanks Cat and appreciate all the help and knowledge you've shared.
Skarn. You've learned a lot over the past year. Thank you for listening.
When looking for quartz or skarn at an old mine site, check the tailings pile nearby. The mine might be filled in with rubble from above the mine so they didn’t have to carry it uphill, but the tailings will be below.
In the early 60s I saw rock walls and what looked like an old oven. Was rounding up cows in the Dry Gulch area, west of what we called pole camp.
Probably an old smelter
Cool info and sights, thanks for saving the great history and sharing with us.
Thank you so much for sharing. Highly appreciate all your videos and your history knowledge.
Thank you for watching and the compliment.
Thanks for the info, and i agree with your claim that getting outdoors is medicine!
First time watching this from NZ.
As I sit and watch this I wonder if this was the reason my deceased first cousin, creator of the Spots event "Down Under" George O'Scanlon with his Kiwi wife settled there in Utah with their 4 grown daughters.
As a young fulla George and I spent many hours roaming our Western hills for the very thing you're talking about and fossil's.
Thank you for bringing back to me memories of my poor sleeping cousin who with his wife now lie in your soils in Utah.
Sorry to hear about your family. NZ is beautiful, I am a big fan of Tolkien and have been reading his books since childhood. Your country is beautiful my friend.
Just amazing, someday I hope/pray to get up there to visit that area. Thank you for the very interesting photos.
Outstanding work! Best, most educational videos on TH-cam. Please keep exploring and searching! A+++
Awesome. Many thanks.
Excellent video brother! You are my favorites channel without question.
Thanks brother
Another great and very interesting video 👍
Very enjoyable video! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing I'm from PA cool stuff love your knowledge of the history
That was a great video! I learned a lot. Thank you!!!
Thanks Shadowdog. I noticed you have a channel that looks very interesting. I'm going to sub and watch your work.
interesting, authoritative presentation...be well, good neighbour
Thx for sharing... 👍
Your welcome sir.
another good video. always wondered about that limestone outcropping and the geology of limestone
Doug, I hardly ever find good mineralization in the Uinta's (just being honest). I can find more minerals in a few hours hiking in Colorado, than I would in two days hiking the Uinta's. But........
Not long ago I was messing around with my dad. I tossed something in the back of his truck and noticed a very heavily mineralized rock. The rock had broken in two from bouncing around in the back of the truck.
The rock is Quartz Breccia and has a vein about an inch thick of Galena. One of the quartz veins is about 1/4 inch thick and has Silver in the center of it and has a few small specks of Gold on the outer layer.
The rock has probably been in the back of the truck for a few years. All my dad remembers is he thought it was a pretty rock and picked it up somewhere while cruising around on his side by side up in the Mountains (Uinta's).
Isn't that the way it goes.....LOL.
If you ever want to see the rock just send me an email and I'll send you some pics.
Thanks for sharing
Great content, thank you
Thanks
Thanks for the video.
AWESOME VIDEO!!!
Thank you sir.
You should mark where the tree is with a stack of rocks, cement slab, or some type of marker.
7:47 is a natural growth pattern in the bark , limestone has water erosion creating caves or sink holes and when the roof collapses they creatr skree fields 11:54
Thank you
great work man
hi, a great video
very good explanation on carbonate hosted Gold deposits ...also replacement deposits are very common in Limestone and deiminated Gold deposits like at the Carlin trend .... looks like they were looking for Cibola ....sorry to hear that they destroyed the trees ..... you always have people doing that so better not to say where they are
Been a fan of your channel for many years. My dad and I used to bust a gut watching you and Slim explore the deserts.
I've learned so much watching your videos and explanations. I'm not a prospector, just a guy who loves to explore around and find old stuff. Your Geology explanations have greatly helped me better understand my natural environment. I also greatly appreciate how you teach everyone to leave the historical artifacts alone.
Thank you for the comment, it is truly a great compliment for someone like me.
A lot of those marks were made by Basque sheepherders in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Crosses are common in their marks.
They were looking for El Dorado
Lots of books on Rhodes mines. And Carrie Shinob. I worked with an old timer in Park City. Had a story about a thick wooden door and a central cavern full of dead Spanish his partner trying to free the wooden door used a stick of dynamite collapsed the cavern. Medicine man named pico started a revolt and in three days coronado was dead all his men dead only Spanish left were in Santa Fe. The Spanish enslaved the indians. There has been several cannons found. The indians covered the mines up. They cut the hands and feet off men and horses and burros. Afterlife stuff. I too have seen alot my life's journey is soon over. Coronados 7 cities of gold were real. They were mines. And the one they could not find was where Montezuma's high priests put the library of Atlantis the Aztecs ancestral home was the great lake tequeo the great salt lake. I recommend books by Kerry Ross boren. Great great grandson of Caleb Rhoades. Good luck. And all of you who search. Please don't destroy. ❤❤❤❤❤
The best would be finding a solid golden vein!
!(: COOL, THANKS ;)!
Legend of Spanish mines, Utah folks are obsessed with it. Its just beating a dead horse at this point.
Do you have any video footage of the carvings before they were removed by the idiots?
I don't, they were cut down when I was just a kid.
@@LowBudgetExploration Would you ever give a tour?
I keep all the sites I visit secret. Nothing personal, I just do that to protect the sites and information I have collected.
So where the Spanish actually digging or did they have labor?, very interesting dude thanks for upload.
Didn't they enslave some Ute?
The Spanish were in the Western US using Native American slave labor in their mines and else where for nearly 250 years. This had been verified from many of the records they kept in Spain. Unfortunately you won't learn this in school unless you are in collage and digging through old Spanish records. There were 2 uprisings from the Native Americans forcing the Spanish from the area and causing the problems the settlers faced coming West. Many Native American families never saw the light of day while being forced to work the mines. They were born and forced into labor inside these very mines. Some of the documentation came from records stored in Vatican from Priests who accompanied the Spanish.
I hope this helps answer your question.
@@CatsScrapandRecycling Thanks that's what I figured. I worked in the area of Potosi some of the silver mines in South America (Peru) where the Spanish raped the area killed the people took the gold/silver and tried to return it to Spain. I have also worked on Spanish Galleon shipwreck salvage projects man that gold/silver never gives up easily and its typically surrounded by misery and tragic endings.
The SPANISH CAME TO STILL KEEL AND DESTROY, AND YOU KNOW GOD , YOU ALSO KNOW WHERE THAT IS WRITTEN.
Here in Central Texas, it's limestone, and has old Spanish mines. My metal detector rings on solid limestone, so I dig, and find rust veins. Why is there rust in limestone? 2. Can you tell me what a Circle with an upsidedown tear drop under the circle means? It's carved into a tree next to an original 1700s trail on one of my permission properties. Thank you.
The rust you find is just oxidized iron minerals. Iron is very common and often found in Sedimentary type rocks. It's believed the entire Core of the earth is made up of Iron (alloyed with nickel). Even in this video you can see some iron next to all the bat shit.
The circle with an upside down tear drop is new to me. Sounds very interesting. Maybe someone else is familiar or has encountered that before and will comment. I am also curious and would like to know what it means.
@@LowBudgetExplorationThank you for the help.
Really. That's why I found the old stagecoach road sing 50 feet up in a ponderosa pine.😂
Why can't that vertical shaft be dug out? The drift likely is still intact.
I'm sure it probably could. I'm not a prospector, I just like finding old stuff. I keep track of old mines/diggings I find, just in case I want to take it up some day, or one of my kids do. I mainly do this stuff for fun and have been at it for many years.
@@LowBudgetExploration Who knows - the video of you digging it out might pay for your time and effort, never mind if anything is found.
WHAT? No box of gold ingots? wow...
If you believe a tree carved on by the Cortez expedition still stands I have some ocean front property for you in Colorado.
Thete were Mexican miners here in Utah in late 1800s . Earliest about 1700. No one has ever suggested Cortez was in utah😂😂😂😂
That said I lived and worked in Mesa Verde where we cut pinion and juniper 600 to 700 years old on the regular
The only relation to cortez would be stories of azrek treasure spirited away and hidden in the uintas
In the 1980’s I took a core sample from a tree near Scofield that had over 500 rings. I know of many trees in Utah that are easily 500 years old. You obviously do not know much about trees if you think there aren’t living trees that old and older.
If you have not found a Caleb Rhodes mine by now your never going to find one. I found 3 back in the 1980s. We searched each one and found nothing but tailings.
Will you share what area you were in?
Not exactly of course!
And I heard one of those jerks that cut down trees was RWL
It's nothing personal, but I never reveal locations or even general areas. Just a rule I started to follow years ago. Sorry.
@@LowBudgetExploration I would get it if there were valuable things. But there was nothing here
So much hidden/lost.
Wow, was Spanish in Utah in ancient times?
I'll give you my opinion, but keep in mind its just my opinion. I have friends who believe they were in the area much earlier than what I believe. I keep a very open mind, but this is my dating;
I believe the Spanish Miners didn't show up until after 1776 (Escalante and Dominquez Expedition). I believe they wrapped it up and were done sometime before 1822 (the time when Reed's Trading Post was established). They were basically mining in the Uinta's for around 40 years.
@LowBudgetExploration Great insight. I have hunted the beaches on treasure coast with some luck and I always felt like the Spaniards were here in the late 1400's. No proof. I've found silver sulfide bars. Which salt water will do.
Awesome discoveries! Very cool.
Hope this is not one of the claims jumpers trying to find the Blind Frog Ranch old Spanish, Mormon, and/or inca gold and silver.
I don't watch that Frog Ranch mess anymore, is always the same.NOTHING.
have you ever experienced any skinwalker type activity in the basin?
On two different occasions I have encountered things I couldn't explain, or reason away and scared me enough that I left the areas quickly. They are both private and I don't like talking about stuff like that, so I don't mention it in the videos. One occurred while filming the "The Sacred Place" and the other occurred while filming "Spanish Treasure Site, following the clues".
Regarding Sk*n W*lker*. When I was a kid you were not even supposed to say those words. It was believed you would attract them. Now everyone (tribal members included) throw those words around like nothing matters. Talk about how the culture has changed very quickly with the introduction of internet, reality show's and social media. I'm still "old school" and don't mess around with that stuff.
I have found a petroglyph out in the desert of a witch/Shamon summoning/or banishing a spirit from/to the underworld/spirit world. The glyph is old, surrounded by many other petroglyphs and in an isolated area. It is very evil or very good. Someday I might document it. I believe it is depicting some ancient ritual that took place.
@@LowBudgetExploration Amazing. I have too.. so I wondered. I'm a believer. I think your approach is right to show it respect. If you ever do want to tell those stories we'd love to hear them. Peace on ya.
Was that a human maxilla (upper jaw) bone @ (1:30 - 1:34)???
They are just two animal bones some predator had been munching on.
Have you seen the master key map, yet?
If I can find the copy Digger made for us we'll have to link up.
I have a cabin that's just north of Bear River service. We'll have to talk sometime!
@@ashtoncode2263 Nice to meet you Ashton. I appreciate the offer, but I typically work alone. My personal style is I read a lot of old history books (Miners, Pioneers, Trappers and Indian) and study Geology. I'm not real big into treasure lore and stuff like that, but do enjoy reading it from time to time. I wish you the best of luck and I hope your maps help you to find what your searching for. Be safe out there and maybe we will meet on a trail someday.
If there are so many spanish artifacts in the uintas, why arent the natl forest rangers and archeologists finding any?
Thier too busy plotting and scheming how to close down more of our access roads.
@@LowBudgetExploration Wouldn't finding archeological sites or precious metals be a good excuse for them to close access if that's their goal?
Also, why do I always hear about these Spanish guns and swords and armor but never see pictures on location? Like other archeological sites that are much older consistently produce metal artifacts that are photographed, put in museums, etc. I'm not against the idea of the Spanish in the Uintas, but it just doesn't add up.
how about that bottle at 7:45?
I went back and watched the video at 7:45 and didn't see a water bottle. There is a rock on right side of tree, but that is all I could see. I'm not really sure what you're looking at.
@@LowBudgetExploration looks like a clear cork whiskey bottle. you said you were looking for stuff around that tree when you saw the cross, thought maybe you saw some bottles
I think it's a rock or piece of wood. Usually if I find a small amount of litter/garbage I'll pack it out. An old whiskey bottle I would probably keep. That would be a cool little find.
Ladarius would solve that Mistry
An old cross would be way up in an old tree.
Trees don't grow like that, not when established. They grow from the branch tips out, creating the crown. The trunks will grow in girth, supporting the weight of the tree (this is why the older cross has been stretched out on the vertical part).
Heart attack hiking 🥾 for us old fat guys
Native American people
Them tree's must not grow. You would think a tree would grow at least a foot in 300 years
That tree doesn't look that old.
They are Ponderosa Pine's and commonly live 300-500 years old, with some living up to 600 years. In their natural environment, they are slow growers, due to the short growing season in the Rocky Mountains.
All most the first words out of his mouth,, "I've found cannon balls , others have found breastplates,, Followed with Antiquity's laws,, followed by Plenty of evidence of old mines but hard to find because they have been destroyed. Gosh, I wonder why there are antiquity laws?
The Spanish did not dig but got slave to do the job 😢
Loved the vid thanks man!
Ty Sir!!!