Also, as I'm watching I thought about my daughter and I bought 20 acres in kanab or right outside of kanab in Johnson canyon. A lot of crazy stuff about Johnson canyon and Spanish treasure for sure!!
Hello B.S.C.....this vid is so cool,helpful,,lights a fire under my ass about taking a trip back out there to hike,explore,...wow,deep in past history story..,,pat&family,,land o' lakes,wi.
Thanks for the shout-out. Glad you are out having fun. Those drill holes beg to have a stick stuck in each and see where they point; though, being in such a small rock it may have moved over the years. I have seen similar-sized ones down in the Dragoon range in AZ but in much larger boulders, as well as in a few other places.
Anytime my friend! This is one of my little secret spots, hidden away in the desert, I explore from time to time. The drill holes are interesting and I still have a few other things in the area I need to follow up on. There are some really cool petroglyphs in the area, but forgot to include them in the video.
That is cool! Your great uncle was an influential figure in the Rocky Mountain West. He was responsible for building numerous Forts and Trading Posts. He lived a very exciting life and helped prepare these areas for the Pioneers who could come decades later. He built three forts just in the little part of the world I grew up in. Sadly, his name is being lost to history.
I live in Grand Junction, The Old Spanish Trail is in my backyard, grew up exploring all of it 😊 also my best friend lives on Roubidoux st. !! Very cool 😎 love it all ! Thanks for sharing ❤
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing as you, those symbols are a real treasure, a real destination to search for, to be sure, great historical pictures & thanks for sharing those they're amazing!
Thanks for another great video! Just got back from your neck of the woods on an adventure. So disturbing to find these sites that have been vandalized / destroyed by unknowing or just selfish people... We found graffiti dated 1940 that read " got here before you and took it all" and the glyph's were chipped out also 😢so sad. Went back to the Warner Valley to revisit a site we found last year with a what we think is a Spanish trail marker/cairn to document and research a little more. Fortunately this was not damaged and is not by frequently used trails. We located the next marker down in the valley by a main trail and it had been destroyed and reduced to nothing but a strewn pile of rocks. 😒 it is a challenge to protect these sites. It is important that the significance of these sites is shared with the younger generations so they may also learn and understand these are irreplaceable and to preserve and protect them. With your pictograph/glyph interpretation skills you should look for the Utah treasure next year! Thanks again!☮
I agree 100% with what you said about protecting these sites and passing on knowledge. What a d*ck (the 1940's guy). I wish you the best of luck with your research and I hope you find what you seek.
I’ve found a few caches myself, worked on many related projects. I find your knowledge of history to be quite amazing. I’d very much like to speak with you about a few related sites, mainly in NM, Mexico and of course Utah. Think I’ve some sites you may find very interesting. I also STRONGLY believe in preservation. I’m an enrolled member of the Northern Cheyenne Tribe. Just reaching out. Robert
Hi Robert, you can reach me at my email down below in the description. I've tried to post it in these comments in the past, but it always gets deleted.
damn that sounds cool, I would love to just go on an adventure with someone who knows what they are doing and where to go and look, one day, I don't even care about treasure, the experience alone would be worth it
At the skull crossbones site,,,maybe its because someone,or a few died at that spot.....marking a battle,,..or dont drink water,...,,tnx for this intriguing vid,,lots of hard work,backtracking clues,from so long ago,..i see why you are doing this,,if i lived close,,i would already know you,,be along for the journey,.....pat,land o' lakes,wi.
Appreciate it Tom and thanks for watching. I'm currently working on another old cache, but not having much of a break through and can't crack the clues.
Thanks Clint, I just wish I could have showed some of the beautiful scenery in that particular area. Unfortunately, I couldn't to protect the locations of the sites.
Pretty cool how you explain things. I, myself have found a couple of old stashes. One was a silver bar. The other was a more modern one. They do have a way of giving you more than expected. Working on a Spanish one now that has a lot of details dragged up over 40 years. Could use a hand as I'm old and decrepit now.😊 i live in AZ only about 20 miles from the place.
Richard, sounds like some really amazing finds. Unfortunately, I don't live in AZ and would not be of any help. Feel free to send me a private email if you want. My email is in the description.
I really enjoy your videos. Great content! I feel like their is a lot of BS about the Spaniards in the Uintah MTNS but you lay down the facts and I really appreciate that. Keep the videos coming!
I totally agree with you about the BS. It seems like it get's worse and worse, especially now with all the outsiders getting in on the act and the reality tv shows. I grew up on the Reservation and know first hand how the Indians like to tease/embellish treasure stories for their gullible white audiences and even each other. Any Indian who might have known something is long dead and their secrets died with them. Keep in mind, most of the Utes came from the Wasatch Front or Colorado and were transplanted to the U&O Reservation in the 1860's after the Meeker Massacre and Brigham Youngs request to the Federal Government after settling the valleys west of the Wasatch Range. Very few Utes actually belonged to the Uinta Band (One time I researched and found the old Ration Documents and Census Counts that were used by the Indian Agency during that time period). Keep in mind all the Ute Bands were consolidated and grouped into the three Bands you have today. Originally there were many more. Read Chief Ouray's history, it is very sad. He was a very good man, leader and extremely intelligent. He's probably my favorite Old Indian. Growing up my best friend lived in Whiterocks (the tribal part) and we would always stay at each others house (spend the night). His dad and Grandpa are quoted in different "Treasure Books" (they were both Indian Game Wardens at different times) and good men. One of the authors who wrote some of the "Treasure Hunting Books" you and I grew up reading, would often talk to my friends wino neighbor to get "stories" for his books. The stories were all made up of course, but the author didn't care. He was getting stories from an "Indian" and that sales books. The neighbor was an alcoholic and the author would give him money for beer. My friends dad confronted the author about collecting nonsense Spanish Treasure stories and "Indian Clues" for his books, even though he knew they were nonsense. I shit you not, the author replied, "if I relied on true stories my books would only be 20-30 pages long" and saw no harm in publishing non-sense stories. Think of the hundreds of people who read (and continue to read) these stories in their favorite Treasure Hunting books and spend countless weekends chasing made up myths from a drunk Indian. I could go on, but it's pointless. I guess in the end it's harmless fun and it get's people off the couch and enjoying our beautiful mountains. Thanks again for the comment and I noticed you have a channel yourself, I will take a look this weekend and watch your videos.
Thank you for sharing this info, priceless. When you were telling us about the types of people you were sitting on the ground in an overhang, over your left and right , is an X on both sides, to me those are treasure symbols marking a possible treasure site, I don't know if they are spanish.
I found an M exactly like the one on the rock face yesterday down in a canyon by the Colorado River near the hoover dam Plus, other pictographs and what appears to be Spanish treasure symbols
Fascinating vid, thanks 👍 Appreciate you can't give reference points, but are u travelling far on your hikes between signs? I just wonder how far apart these clues can be spread before they loose accuracy??
Most are less than a thousand yards from each other. I've been to some sites where they are less than 100 yards from each other. Mainly depends on the terrain. Wide open areas, they will be further spaced. Closed in areas, they will be closer spaced. I know where one site is carved on a rock that depicts a lake 10 miles away.
My friend your are quite the explorer and Riddle solver. Hot on the trail of folks from 200-300 years of ago. What very interesting and 😎 cool video. Thank you for your time.
I enjoyed your video as always. I'd like to maybe put you or someone else on to an old Spanish trail that was shot in with a sextant. It would be great if someone with a good drone and flying skills could document this trail. I saw it nearly fourty years ago. while climbing the other side of the canyon. It's an easy spot to get to by car, but one hell of a hard climb if you try to get to the trail itself. Now for the directions: Go up Dry Fork Canyon out of Vernal. Continue up the canyon to the last saw tooth. It will be on your left. Stop there and on the right side of the canyon about half way up is a set of switch backs that put any switch backs we have today to shame. These switch backs are lined up with each other on angle of grade, start of each switch, and spaced the same distance apart all the way to the top. From the saw tooth you can see it real well. That's why I suggest a drone. The climb to the saw tooth from the bottom of the canyon took me almost 2 hours, it's that steep. I was in my early 20s then and in good shape. Seeing a drone video of this site would be amazing. Thanks again my friend. Keep up the good work. Cat
Great video. Unfortunately the forest service has blocked off much from the public at the Chaco Canyon site. Apparently there's a conquistador buried on Hoyts Peak in Kamas, Utah. If youre reading this comment and thinking of moving to Utah, DON'T. We're full.
Thanks Haydena. I haven't messed around up on Hoyts Peak. I think we took horses up there once when I was a kid, but I could be wrong. I see you are from the area by the way you pronounced it. Hoyts with an (s). You can always tell those not from the area because they pronounce it without the (s). It would be cool for someone to find something up there.
@@LowBudgetExploration by the way, the end of my comment wasn't directed at you. Love your content. Hoyts holds one of the best candidates for the Rhodes mime (or one of them) and is where the conquistador is allegedly buried.
Thanks for another great video. Really appreciate your knowledge. How did they chip out these maps. Metal tools or rocks? What are characteristics of an authentic map?
Very good questions. I'm sure they used iron tools for the most part, unless they were trying to "blend" it in with the surrounding petroglyphs, then they would peck them into the rock Indian style. I can only speak based on my own experiences, but in my experience they use imagery a lot for the maps. A friend and I are trying to break/decipher another one right now. I've been working on it for over a year, but haven't had any luck. I finally thought I had found the cache site a few months ago, but it turned out to be nothing. In this case, the imagery is of a dragon/serpent like creature, the head of an Indian and a couple of old colonial style homes. These maps are imbedded into the surrounding Indian petroglyphs and located way out in the middle of nowhere. Look for stuff that looks out of place and was made to be noticed, but blend in at the same time. Look for these maps in the vicinity of known areas the Spanish worked and/or travelled through. In the imagery look for Spanish treasure symbology and features that look exaggerated in the image. Overly large eyes, a tail that is too large and looks more like a trail, one ear is bigger than the other ear, features out of place like an eye moved over to far on the face. Stuff like that.
I really like how passionate and educated you are about all this. To say that this is the treasure in reference to the petroglyphs is really neat. Do you read about these spots or just go out and explore? I’ve got two small boys who I’d like to get outside and get into this. Where would you reckon is a good place to start as far as learning and finding these really neat places? We live in Herriman, I’d like to go far out into the desert and boondock. Figure kids can’t go too far wrong if I get them outside having fun like this, especially now a days. Thanks for making these videos, they’re inspiring and really neat. It’s really amazing to look back at how people lived and what they went through and just picture someone carving this into rock. Thanks again.
I think you have an amazing idea going on there and your boys will love you for it when they are grown men. How do I find stuff you ask? I'm blessed and have been really lucky. About 70% of what you see in my videos is stuff I've discovered while out exploring and about 30% is stuff family/friends have told me about and allowed me to film. Most of my family members were; sheep herders, cowboys or lumberjacks here in the Uinta Basin. These old timers found all the cool stuff and I grew up hearing their stories. These stories from the elders in my family have given me an upper hand, so I know where some of the Spanish Carvings were before being cut down in the 1930's, 40's, 50's and 60's. Some stuff I was shown as a kid I am still looking for and have not been able to relocate yet. I also have a really good friend named Woody who I greatly respect and value his opinion. He has been treasure hunting for many years in the Basin and has lots of knowledge. Always remember; the guys you never hear about are the ones finding stuff! They keep there discoveries very secret. They don't write books, have youtube channels and etc. I am lucky because these guys are family/friends and they trust me. Most of these guys (the ones actually finding stuff), laugh at what they read in the "Treasure Hunting Books". We are currently researching another treasure cache. We have found two rock maps and believe we have narrowed down the site of the cache. Hopefully, we will be able to hike into the site before the snow comes. The video like the one you referenced is about 30 minutes long, but years of research can go into something like that. Lot's of exploring and patience to find the next clue. What I do is sometimes very dangerous/reckless, so please be careful. 99% of the time I am by myself in very remote areas. If anything happens to me; break a leg, fall down a cliff, get attacked by a Mountain Lion and etc, I am screwed. In the end, just do it for the fun of it and enjoy seeing Mother Nature at her finest. The real treasure is the wildlife and beautiful scenery. Living where you live, I would explore Spanish Fork Canyon and maybe the Hoyt Peak area. I think both areas are close to your house. Take your boys to Nine Mile Canyon and explore some of the side canyons looking for Cliff Dwellings. I've sat on the Cliff Faces high up in Nine Mile and watched the tourist come through the Canyon. They never venture further than a few feet from their vehicles, so they never find the really cool stuff. Good luck!
36:43 along with the bird statue that has different rock (lighter colored for its feet), on the ground just behind you on your left is another animal laying down w sharp beak it appears? Probably need a different angle but i's something.
St. Sauvage, thanks for the sub and welcome. There are stories about lost mines in the Henry Mountains and it is very possible the Spaniards and American Prospectors all sunk shafts into that mountain range. The Henry's consist of Laccolith's (think of face pimples, but instead of puss you have magma). Laccoliths are Igneous Intrusions that occur beneath the earth's surface. They typically create Sill's underground and at the outer edges of these sills is where I would expect to find the most mineralization, to include gold deposits. The Molten Magma get's sandwiched between other layers of rock and forms Horizontal Intrusions that extend sideways. I have never explored the Henry's, but have researched them from time to time. On TH-cam type in Terry Carter, Clues to a Massive Spanish Treasure in the Henry Mountains and Terry Carter, Gold ore found in the Henry Mountains. This might help you out. I will be releasing a video today here in about 3 hours titled, "Miners Lore - The geology of an 1800's prospector". You might find it helpful in your search.
@@LowBudgetExploration i will type Henry’s in and “watch away” :-) Thanks, I really appreciate you taking your time and writing back. Love your channel, keep up the Great work!
The Spanish came with Latin maps, from Spain and thier information was from the Romans, and theirs from the Philistines,Phoenicians, Egyptians regarding gold fields on the Continental United States of America.
Sounds very interesting. If I was you, I'd go back to the site and explore around some more. Look for rock carvings, monuments and stuff like that. Also look for evidence of old mining activities; shaft, smelter, arrastra, ore piles and so forth. Good luck.
@@LowBudgetExploration I followed the right arm and it led me to a limestone marble deposit amongst the volcanic rock. It looks as though it was dug out a long time ago. I must check the contact areas. Looks like Copper. I'll keep searching.
I used to work in fisheries and worked with Squawfish and know what they look like on an intimate level lol.I have to say my first thought of this fish was a Sturgeon - due to the markings - when you said it was 4 ft - that made even more sense. Sturgeon get huge - like as much as a ton historically
I had also considered a Sturgeon at one time, but historically there were never any sturgeon in this area. Sqawfish fish were the catch of the day, the pioneers used to call them "Salmon of the Rockies", until their populations were decimated. Keep in mind this is a map pecked into rock and its primary purpose is to lead to another clue site, not to be an accurate depiction of any type of fish. They just modeled it on the local squawfish they were catching, so it didn't attract unnecessary attention. Your observation is sound, not saying its not. Just in this scenario I believe a squaw fish is more likely what they were embedding their symbolism in.
@@LowBudgetExploration I do believe the Colorado River historically had Sturgeon before dams and overfishing wiped them out by the mid 70s. The Green River being a large trib to the Colorado would've likely had Sturgeon at one time as well
@@LowBudgetExploration also, you say sturgeon were not historically in the area - you should add though 'as we know it'......ok lets play that card out - and then realize how old these petroglphys likely are ....realize not that long ago the ocean at the furthest west would be Salt Lake City - likely closer....then realize sturgeon - an ancient species - is also anadromous - it spawns in rivers and can live in the sea like salmon - I still say its a sturgeon
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Good video but wrong about the 5 Chiefs. The Spanish had no regards nor respect for the native Indians .. we haven’t found any reference on any site of the Spanish mentioning native Indians buried on a site. I believe the 5 fingers may be 5 different caches or the 5 owners of the cache, or something else you will discover on the site. Thanks for sharing👍
Not everyone, I have literally found small amounts of Gold in rock and just left it because I didn't want the extra weight of the rock in my back pack on the hike back. That being said, I agree with you and your statement is very true for lots of the population unfortunately.
I've never came across anything regarding Oregon (Spanish Treasure wise). Driven through the state numerous times. Very beautiful!!! Especially the coast.
You have a new subscriber! Loved this my first video what braught me here was i know of a church of the mid 16th hundreds, now theres a rock inside the church and it has a snake carved in and more can you help me out please 🙏
The only thing that concerns me is the symbol is of very poor quality, meaning it was only scratched and not etched into the rock. It is very odd and obviously in a very remote area. Not in an area where someone would do it as a joke or something like that. Basically, nobody would ever see it and etc. I'm leaning toward they might have traced it out on the rock before they chiseled the image into the stone, but then for whatever reason changed their minds. At this point, I honestly don't know. I have never found anything like it before.
You always hear that the Spaniards had perimeter Reconnaissance Soldiers, that would usually be 6- 10 Men. They would basically form a circle around the camp during night / day depending what time of day mining the mining activities went on. The circle would have 3- outer rings from the target they were protecting. (Depending on size of Expedition.) Farthest Forward Position not to be confused w/ today’s Sniper FFP Final Firing Position (kinda same concept tho), & Intermediate Position, If was a large operation, they would have a Final position, this circle This circle would be men trained in the art of covertness, blending into the environment & geographic background. They would work approximately 1-mile outward from the operation they were protecting and would work as a relay team when a potential hazard was spotted. The FFP Recon would fall back to Intermediate and intermediate to the closest Recon position to the operation and the back Recon would go already everyone. The soldiers who were there to fight would man positions the bankers & accountant miners would take what they could and run. However, if they had to bury some of their spoils, by Spaniard Law, they had to place a marker / Map to later be found by Kings Men. If the guy who buried the Cashe did escape and make it back to Spain, he would have to accompany the Kings amen back for said Cashe retriever and if it wasn’t marked, he was buried! All that said, maybe that skull & bones is a marker made in a hurry and it is explaining that had to leave for fear of death, Cashe buried where it directs.
Maybe things have changed in the treasure hunting world, I wouldn't think "I found one but nothings there, my friend found one but haven't looked there yet, and I haven't found this one yet but I will " doesn't count as finding three?😅
I'm not convinced at all. For example, how many valuable spanish treasures have you found using this method? Haha but hey, its a fun thing to do and makes an enjoyable bedtime story video for me, so thanks.
Although keep at it and enjoy every minute of it. When you get some good results then you can rub my honest opinion back in my stupid face hahaha. They are great videos and very interesting despite my scepticism on the topic. 👍🕵♂️
Those are what is referred to as shale rock, they look like bricks but are natural. Indians would mark holes in rocks to use for measuring the winter/summer solstice. Archeologist have documented this being done on the Utah/Colorado border. The Spaniards would drill holes for purposes of marking treasure sites, mines and veins.
@@LowBudgetExploration Very interesting. Thank you for bringing me up to speed on that 1 question. What did the Indians use to make such like to me? Perfect drill holes? I mean that's awesome?
@@rileymanderscheid9805 They would use the surrounding sand/dirt as a cutting mechanism, which consist primarily of small grains of quartz, garnet and feldspar. All of which are very hard materials on the Mohs Scale, especially quartz. They would take this abrasive sand place on the rock, then grab a round object made of hardwood, piece of bone, or rock if they could find a round one and move the round object back and forth, slowly cutting a semi perfect circle into the rock. This was done similar to how ancient people started fire using the friction of a stick on a piece of wood. Only in this case they were using this method to make small holes in rock. They would go through a lot of material doing this, but they had plenty to work with.
John, I've wondered about the same thing many times before. Seems kinda odd to leave behind the fruit of so much hard work and risk, but they evidently did. Caches have been discovered in the past 100 plus years. I think sometimes they just got killed off and that is why some of this stuff got left behind. Just my 2 cents.
I cringe everytime your oily hand touches the glyphs. Please wear a glove skin is covered in oils that work to deteriorate. This is Why antiques and art isnt touched bare handedly If you dont wear a glove, you need to stop, talking about that other 10% of folks because, surprise, your one.. Just needed to call your attention to calling the kettle black. So to speak. Love your videos, when you showed the horses neck ridge line streching across rock, the other shape of glyph looked exactly the same shapes. diamond like
Black sheep coffee in duchesne on highway 40 is watching your videos! Thanks for letting us come along!
Also, as I'm watching I thought about my daughter and I bought 20 acres in kanab or right outside of kanab in Johnson canyon. A lot of crazy stuff about Johnson canyon and Spanish treasure for sure!!
Thanks. Luv your coffee, my wife used to always stop by when we lived in the area.
Hello B.S.C.....this vid is so cool,helpful,,lights a fire under my ass about taking a trip back out there to hike,explore,...wow,deep in past history story..,,pat&family,,land o' lakes,wi.
At last! Knowledgeable individual. Very refreshing.
Thank you Mindswamp. I'm glad you enjoyed it and found it interesting.
Thanks for the shout-out. Glad you are out having fun. Those drill holes beg to have a stick stuck in each and see where they point; though, being in such a small rock it may have moved over the years. I have seen similar-sized ones down in the Dragoon range in AZ but in much larger boulders, as well as in a few other places.
Anytime my friend!
This is one of my little secret spots, hidden away in the desert, I explore from time to time. The drill holes are interesting and I still have a few other things in the area I need to follow up on. There are some really cool petroglyphs in the area, but forgot to include them in the video.
Watched the Revenant. Excellent movie
Hi. You mentioned Antoine Robidoux in a video. He’s my fourth great uncle. My Grandpa was a Roubidoux. Rick from SaltLake
That is cool! Your great uncle was an influential figure in the Rocky Mountain West. He was responsible for building numerous Forts and Trading Posts.
He lived a very exciting life and helped prepare these areas for the Pioneers who could come decades later. He built three forts just in the little part of the world I grew up in. Sadly, his name is being lost to history.
I live in Grand Junction, The Old Spanish Trail is in my backyard, grew up exploring all of it 😊 also my best friend lives on Roubidoux st. !! Very cool 😎 love it all ! Thanks for sharing ❤
Yeah,
I was thinking the same thing as you, those symbols are a real treasure, a real destination to search for, to be sure, great historical pictures & thanks for sharing those they're amazing!
incredible breakdown of the history
Thank you. It's a work of love.
Thanks for another great video! Just got back from your neck of the woods on an adventure. So disturbing to find these sites that have been vandalized / destroyed by unknowing or just selfish people... We found graffiti dated 1940 that read " got here before you and took it all" and the glyph's were chipped out also 😢so sad. Went back to the Warner Valley to revisit a site we found last year with a what we think is a Spanish trail marker/cairn to document and research a little more. Fortunately this was not damaged and is not by frequently used trails. We located the next marker down in the valley by a main trail and it had been destroyed and reduced to nothing but a strewn pile of rocks. 😒 it is a challenge to protect these sites. It is important that the significance of these sites is shared with the younger generations so they may also learn and understand these are irreplaceable and to preserve and protect them. With your pictograph/glyph interpretation skills you should look for the Utah treasure next year! Thanks again!☮
I agree 100% with what you said about protecting these sites and passing on knowledge. What a d*ck (the 1940's guy). I wish you the best of luck with your research and I hope you find what you seek.
I’ve found a few caches myself, worked on many related projects. I find your knowledge of history to be quite amazing. I’d very much like to speak with you about a few related sites, mainly in NM, Mexico and of course Utah. Think I’ve some sites you may find very interesting. I also STRONGLY believe in preservation. I’m an enrolled member of the Northern Cheyenne Tribe.
Just reaching out.
Robert
Hi Robert, you can reach me at my email down below in the description. I've tried to post it in these comments in the past, but it always gets deleted.
damn that sounds cool, I would love to just go on an adventure with someone who knows what they are doing and where to go and look, one day, I don't even care about treasure, the experience alone would be worth it
It’s simple. Reading and research. Find which pieces of history interest you the most, and go from there.
At the skull crossbones site,,,maybe its because someone,or a few died at that spot.....marking a battle,,..or dont drink water,...,,tnx for this intriguing vid,,lots of hard work,backtracking clues,from so long ago,..i see why you are doing this,,if i lived close,,i would already know you,,be along for the journey,.....pat,land o' lakes,wi.
This made me think about what Mudfossil University and Stellium7 talk about. Fascinating.
Cool, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I too find the history and mystery of it all way more fascinating than the gold.
36:43 background over your left shoulder - standing bird blending in w the rock wall (maybe large standing owl)
This is awesome. I really enjoy all your videos. I’m glad I ran into them
You're so right I totally believe what you're saying
Appreciate it Tom and thanks for watching. I'm currently working on another old cache, but not having much of a break through and can't crack the clues.
I love the subtleness of the things you have in your background at times. Man, you’re videos are amazing! Ty -CC
Thanks Clint, I just wish I could have showed some of the beautiful scenery in that particular area. Unfortunately, I couldn't to protect the locations of the sites.
Pretty cool how you explain things. I, myself have found a couple of old stashes. One was a silver bar. The other was a more modern one. They do have a way of giving you more than expected. Working on a Spanish one now that has a lot of details dragged up over 40 years. Could use a hand as I'm old and decrepit now.😊 i live in AZ only about 20 miles from the place.
Richard, sounds like some really amazing finds. Unfortunately, I don't live in AZ and would not be of any help. Feel free to send me a private email if you want. My email is in the description.
Thank you for sharing this with me. I really appreciate watching. It is very interesting to me and I enjoyed watching.....
Thanks Billy.
We had permits to graze our cattle in the dry gulch area of the Uintas. Have seen several Spanish sites while gathering cows in the fall.
Thank you very much enjoyed your video. Too bad some just do not understand the beauty of the old way.
respect for privacy of the sites
I really enjoy your videos. Great content! I feel like their is a lot of BS about the Spaniards in the Uintah MTNS but you lay down the facts and I really appreciate that. Keep the videos coming!
I totally agree with you about the BS. It seems like it get's worse and worse, especially now with all the outsiders getting in on the act and the reality tv shows. I grew up on the Reservation and know first hand how the Indians like to tease/embellish treasure stories for their gullible white audiences and even each other.
Any Indian who might have known something is long dead and their secrets died with them. Keep in mind, most of the Utes came from the Wasatch Front or Colorado and were transplanted to the U&O Reservation in the 1860's after the Meeker Massacre and Brigham Youngs request to the Federal Government after settling the valleys west of the Wasatch Range.
Very few Utes actually belonged to the Uinta Band (One time I researched and found the old Ration Documents and Census Counts that were used by the Indian Agency during that time period). Keep in mind all the Ute Bands were consolidated and grouped into the three Bands you have today. Originally there were many more. Read Chief Ouray's history, it is very sad. He was a very good man, leader and extremely intelligent. He's probably my favorite Old Indian.
Growing up my best friend lived in Whiterocks (the tribal part) and we would always stay at each others house (spend the night). His dad and Grandpa are quoted in different "Treasure Books" (they were both Indian Game Wardens at different times) and good men.
One of the authors who wrote some of the "Treasure Hunting Books" you and I grew up reading, would often talk to my friends wino neighbor to get "stories" for his books. The stories were all made up of course, but the author didn't care. He was getting stories from an "Indian" and that sales books.
The neighbor was an alcoholic and the author would give him money for beer. My friends dad confronted the author about collecting nonsense Spanish Treasure stories and "Indian Clues" for his books, even though he knew they were nonsense. I shit you not, the author replied, "if I relied on true stories my books would only be 20-30 pages long" and saw no harm in publishing non-sense stories. Think of the hundreds of people who read (and continue to read) these stories in their favorite Treasure Hunting books and spend countless weekends chasing made up myths from a drunk Indian.
I could go on, but it's pointless. I guess in the end it's harmless fun and it get's people off the couch and enjoying our beautiful mountains. Thanks again for the comment and I noticed you have a channel yourself, I will take a look this weekend and watch your videos.
@@LowBudgetExploration I believe historical newspapers were guilty of this too lol. You just need to read with a good pair of BS glasses.
Thank you for sharing this info, priceless. When you were telling us about the types of people you were sitting on the ground in an overhang, over your left and right , is an X on both sides, to me those are treasure symbols marking a possible treasure site, I don't know if they are spanish.
I went back and rewatched it, but I'm having a hard time seeing X's. Can you be more specific. Thanks.
thank you. Love your videos. I am to old to get out and search, so I live vicariously through you. Hope you score big and take us along for the ride.
Thanks azjv, I will and wish me luck.
Great video! Find/Unearth/& Enjoy every second of your Adventures 👍
Thanks and I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Really enjoy your videos. Incredibly informative.
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I found an M exactly like the one on the rock face yesterday down in a canyon by the Colorado River near the hoover dam
Plus, other pictographs and what appears to be Spanish treasure symbols
Very cool!
Very cool! Sad about folks who are so damn greedy they can't see straight. Appreciate taking us along and the knowledge base! 🌿💙
Yes it is, those type of people get under my skin. There is no limit to what they would destroy to find a few specks of Gold.
Fascinating vid, thanks 👍
Appreciate you can't give reference points, but are u travelling far on your hikes between signs? I just wonder how far apart these clues can be spread before they loose accuracy??
Most are less than a thousand yards from each other. I've been to some sites where they are less than 100 yards from each other. Mainly depends on the terrain. Wide open areas, they will be further spaced. Closed in areas, they will be closer spaced. I know where one site is carved on a rock that depicts a lake 10 miles away.
@@LowBudgetExploration OK. Appreciated 👍
Another great video basinite.. I wish you were able to be here this weekend.
Thanks Patsy. Hoping Terry gets most on film, so I can watch on youtube.
My friend your are quite the explorer and Riddle solver. Hot on the trail of folks from 200-300 years of ago. What very interesting and 😎 cool video. Thank you for your time.
Many thanks Patrick. I have a blast doing it.
I enjoyed your video as always.
I'd like to maybe put you or someone else on to an old Spanish trail that was shot in with a sextant. It would be great if someone with a good drone and flying skills could document this trail. I saw it nearly fourty years ago. while climbing the other side of the canyon.
It's an easy spot to get to by car, but one hell of a hard climb if you try to get to the trail itself.
Now for the directions:
Go up Dry Fork Canyon out of Vernal. Continue up the canyon to the last saw tooth. It will be on your left. Stop there and on the right side of the canyon about half way up is a set of switch backs that put any switch backs we have today to shame. These switch backs are lined up with each other on angle of grade, start of each switch, and spaced the same distance apart all the way to the top. From the saw tooth you can see it real well. That's why I suggest a drone. The climb to the saw tooth from the bottom of the canyon took me almost 2 hours, it's that steep. I was in my early 20s then and in good shape.
Seeing a drone video of this site would be amazing.
Thanks again my friend. Keep up the good work.
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Sounds very interesting.
Great Stuff! Thank you.
Great video.
Unfortunately the forest service has blocked off much from the public at the Chaco Canyon site.
Apparently there's a conquistador buried on Hoyts Peak in Kamas, Utah. If youre reading this comment and thinking of moving to Utah, DON'T. We're full.
Thanks Haydena. I haven't messed around up on Hoyts Peak. I think we took horses up there once when I was a kid, but I could be wrong. I see you are from the area by the way you pronounced it. Hoyts with an (s). You can always tell those not from the area because they pronounce it without the (s).
It would be cool for someone to find something up there.
@@LowBudgetExploration by the way, the end of my comment wasn't directed at you. Love your content. Hoyts holds one of the best candidates for the Rhodes mime (or one of them) and is where the conquistador is allegedly buried.
Great content! Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Very informative and entertaining. Keep em comin!🤙
Appreciate the positive feedback. Thank you.
Thanks for another great video. Really appreciate your knowledge.
How did they chip out these maps. Metal tools or rocks? What are characteristics of an authentic map?
Very good questions. I'm sure they used iron tools for the most part, unless they were trying to "blend" it in with the surrounding petroglyphs, then they would peck them into the rock Indian style.
I can only speak based on my own experiences, but in my experience they use imagery a lot for the maps. A friend and I are trying to break/decipher another one right now. I've been working on it for over a year, but haven't had any luck. I finally thought I had found the cache site a few months ago, but it turned out to be nothing. In this case, the imagery is of a dragon/serpent like creature, the head of an Indian and a couple of old colonial style homes. These maps are imbedded into the surrounding Indian petroglyphs and located way out in the middle of nowhere.
Look for stuff that looks out of place and was made to be noticed, but blend in at the same time. Look for these maps in the vicinity of known areas the Spanish worked and/or travelled through. In the imagery look for Spanish treasure symbology and features that look exaggerated in the image. Overly large eyes, a tail that is too large and looks more like a trail, one ear is bigger than the other ear, features out of place like an eye moved over to far on the face. Stuff like that.
I really like how passionate and educated you are about all this. To say that this is the treasure in reference to the petroglyphs is really neat. Do you read about these spots or just go out and explore? I’ve got two small boys who I’d like to get outside and get into this. Where would you reckon is a good place to start as far as learning and finding these really neat places? We live in Herriman, I’d like to go far out into the desert and boondock. Figure kids can’t go too far wrong if I get them outside having fun like this, especially now a days. Thanks for making these videos, they’re inspiring and really neat. It’s really amazing to look back at how people lived and what they went through and just picture someone carving this into rock. Thanks again.
I think you have an amazing idea going on there and your boys will love you for it when they are grown men. How do I find stuff you ask? I'm blessed and have been really lucky. About 70% of what you see in my videos is stuff I've discovered while out exploring and about 30% is stuff family/friends have told me about and allowed me to film.
Most of my family members were; sheep herders, cowboys or lumberjacks here in the Uinta Basin. These old timers found all the cool stuff and I grew up hearing their stories. These stories from the elders in my family have given me an upper hand, so I know where some of the Spanish Carvings were before being cut down in the 1930's, 40's, 50's and 60's.
Some stuff I was shown as a kid I am still looking for and have not been able to relocate yet. I also have a really good friend named Woody who I greatly respect and value his opinion. He has been treasure hunting for many years in the Basin and has lots of knowledge. Always remember; the guys you never hear about are the ones finding stuff! They keep there discoveries very secret. They don't write books, have youtube channels and etc. I am lucky because these guys are family/friends and they trust me. Most of these guys (the ones actually finding stuff), laugh at what they read in the "Treasure Hunting Books".
We are currently researching another treasure cache. We have found two rock maps and believe we have narrowed down the site of the cache. Hopefully, we will be able to hike into the site before the snow comes. The video like the one you referenced is about 30 minutes long, but years of research can go into something like that. Lot's of exploring and patience to find the next clue.
What I do is sometimes very dangerous/reckless, so please be careful. 99% of the time I am by myself in very remote areas. If anything happens to me; break a leg, fall down a cliff, get attacked by a Mountain Lion and etc, I am screwed.
In the end, just do it for the fun of it and enjoy seeing Mother Nature at her finest. The real treasure is the wildlife and beautiful scenery. Living where you live, I would explore Spanish Fork Canyon and maybe the Hoyt Peak area. I think both areas are close to your house. Take your boys to Nine Mile Canyon and explore some of the side canyons looking for Cliff Dwellings. I've sat on the Cliff Faces high up in Nine Mile and watched the tourist come through the Canyon. They never venture further than a few feet from their vehicles, so they never find the really cool stuff.
Good luck!
always great to watch. i thank you for things that i will never see .
Thank you Toymaker and appreciate the comment.
I Love the backdrop...
I do too, the later 1700's and early 1800's, is my favorite piece of Americana. Everything was untouched and raw in the Rocky Mountain West.
36:43 along with the bird statue that has different rock (lighter colored for its feet), on the ground just behind you on your left is another animal laying down w sharp beak it appears? Probably need a different angle but i's something.
That is incredible!!!
I feel the same way, just glad these ones are located in very remote areas, so they are still in pristine condition.
thanks for a really interesting video , learning something on every video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it and find value in the videos.
Great video…just subscribed to your channel. Any info on lost gold/gold mining in the Henry Mountains of southern Utah? Thanks, T.
St. Sauvage, thanks for the sub and welcome. There are stories about lost mines in the Henry Mountains and it is very possible the Spaniards and American Prospectors all sunk shafts into that mountain range.
The Henry's consist of Laccolith's (think of face pimples, but instead of puss you have magma). Laccoliths are Igneous Intrusions that occur beneath the earth's surface. They typically create Sill's underground and at the outer edges of these sills is where I would expect to find the most mineralization, to include gold deposits. The Molten Magma get's sandwiched between other layers of rock and forms Horizontal Intrusions that extend sideways.
I have never explored the Henry's, but have researched them from time to time. On TH-cam type in Terry Carter, Clues to a Massive Spanish Treasure in the Henry Mountains and Terry Carter, Gold ore found in the Henry Mountains. This might help you out. I will be releasing a video today here in about 3 hours titled, "Miners Lore - The geology of an 1800's prospector". You might find it helpful in your search.
@@LowBudgetExploration i will type Henry’s in and “watch away” :-) Thanks, I really appreciate you taking your time and writing back. Love your channel, keep up the Great work!
@@St.Sauvage Best of luck and I hope you find some cool stuff in the Henrys.
35:25 upper left - the rock is an eye - pupil is the shadow
Look up old maps from Spain and signs of treasure or how to read them?
The Spanish came with Latin maps, from Spain and thier information was from the Romans, and theirs from the Philistines,Phoenicians, Egyptians regarding gold fields on the Continental United States of America.
Great video! Gave you a sub. So sad people are messing up all the history.
Many thanks and welcome to the channel! Yes it is!!! It's always pissed me off, even when I was a kid.
I found a cross made out of rocks about 12' high on the top of a small summit. What does it mean? What should I do? To find next clue?
Laying flat on the ground. Looks very old by movement and erosion. Spanish?
Sounds very interesting. If I was you, I'd go back to the site and explore around some more. Look for rock carvings, monuments and stuff like that. Also look for evidence of old mining activities; shaft, smelter, arrastra, ore piles and so forth. Good luck.
@@LowBudgetExploration I followed the right arm and it led me to a limestone marble deposit amongst the volcanic rock. It looks as though it was dug out a long time ago. I must check the contact areas. Looks like Copper. I'll keep searching.
I like how you are sitting in front of the caches when you video
Thanks Wally, everything I film is out in the field.
I used to work in fisheries and worked with Squawfish and know what they look like on an intimate level lol.I have to say my first thought of this fish was a Sturgeon - due to the markings - when you said it was 4 ft - that made even more sense. Sturgeon get huge - like as much as a ton historically
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_sturgeon#/media/File:White_sturgeon_farming_california.jpg
I had also considered a Sturgeon at one time, but historically there were never any sturgeon in this area. Sqawfish fish were the catch of the day, the pioneers used to call them "Salmon of the Rockies", until their populations were decimated. Keep in mind this is a map pecked into rock and its primary purpose is to lead to another clue site, not to be an accurate depiction of any type of fish. They just modeled it on the local squawfish they were catching, so it didn't attract unnecessary attention.
Your observation is sound, not saying its not. Just in this scenario I believe a squaw fish is more likely what they were embedding their symbolism in.
@@LowBudgetExploration I do believe the Colorado River historically had Sturgeon before dams and overfishing wiped them out by the mid 70s. The Green River being a large trib to the Colorado would've likely had Sturgeon at one time as well
@@LowBudgetExploration also, you say sturgeon were not historically in the area - you should add though 'as we know it'......ok lets play that card out - and then realize how old these petroglphys likely are ....realize not that long ago the ocean at the furthest west would be Salt Lake City - likely closer....then realize sturgeon - an ancient species - is also anadromous - it spawns in rivers and can live in the sea like salmon - I still say its a sturgeon
Interesting thanks!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
To bad that fish is on the endangerd list would love to catch that fish legally. Great video love it
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Three caves/mines on both sides of the river(following vien) after the big pool? Cash, check or direct deposit, will do. Thank you!
LOL. Good one. You will make a fine treasure hunter. 😝
The r was an old ferry that crossed the river right there.. cables still across yhe river. Excellant cat fish n .
Good video but wrong about the 5 Chiefs. The Spanish had no regards nor respect for the native Indians .. we haven’t found any reference on any site of the Spanish mentioning native Indians buried on a site. I believe the 5 fingers may be 5 different caches or the 5 owners of the cache, or something else you will discover on the site. Thanks for sharing👍
💯. In Colorado, the Spanish enslaved the Utes. Made them work the gold mines for them.
Your wrong i talked to multiple native Americans in 1930 that said the gold was good gold not bad gold
Guy knows
Once a man gets gold 🪙 fever there's no stopping him.
Not everyone, I have literally found small amounts of Gold in rock and just left it because I didn't want the extra weight of the rock in my back pack on the hike back. That being said, I agree with you and your statement is very true for lots of the population unfortunately.
Anything for oregon?
I've never came across anything regarding Oregon (Spanish Treasure wise). Driven through the state numerous times. Very beautiful!!! Especially the coast.
It appears to be a Spanish style saddle with the indian on the horse 🐎 with the hat 🤠.
I didn’t realize that Spanish got that far into the mountains of Utha?
You have a new subscriber! Loved this my first video what braught me here was i know of a church of the mid 16th hundreds, now theres a rock inside the church and it has a snake carved in and more can you help me out please 🙏
Thank you Ezequiel and appreciate the sub! You can always send me a pic of the snake, my email is down in the description below.
The forest service is also responsible for destroying sites/ cabins.
Yes sir they are. They are probably the worst!!
Yeah it's hard to control families with wealth that is why .
So what did you find in your cache?
All I was able to find was an empty hole that had been washed out by erosion. I've never been back yet to search again.
Looks like a trout?
Match it to a topological map?
Me too
LOL, happens to the best of us.
Skull n cross bones is a excellent treasure marker . Golgatha first representation of the symbol
The only thing that concerns me is the symbol is of very poor quality, meaning it was only scratched and not etched into the rock. It is very odd and obviously in a very remote area. Not in an area where someone would do it as a joke or something like that. Basically, nobody would ever see it and etc.
I'm leaning toward they might have traced it out on the rock before they chiseled the image into the stone, but then for whatever reason changed their minds.
At this point, I honestly don't know. I have never found anything like it before.
You always hear that the Spaniards had perimeter Reconnaissance Soldiers, that would usually be
6- 10 Men. They would basically form a circle around the camp during night / day depending what time of day mining the mining activities went on. The circle would have 3- outer rings from the target they were protecting. (Depending on size of Expedition.)
Farthest Forward Position not to be confused w/ today’s Sniper FFP Final Firing Position (kinda same concept tho),
& Intermediate Position,
If was a large operation, they would have a Final position, this circle
This circle would be men trained in the art of covertness, blending into the environment & geographic background. They would work approximately 1-mile outward from the operation they were protecting and would work as a relay team when a potential hazard was spotted. The FFP Recon would fall back to Intermediate and intermediate to the closest Recon position to the operation and the back Recon would go already everyone. The soldiers who were there to fight would man positions the bankers & accountant miners would take what they could and run. However, if they had to bury some of their spoils, by Spaniard Law, they had to place a marker / Map to later be found by Kings Men. If the guy who buried the Cashe did escape and make it back to Spain, he would have to accompany the Kings amen back for said Cashe retriever and if it wasn’t marked, he was buried!
All that said, maybe that skull & bones is a marker made in a hurry and it is explaining that had to leave for fear of death, Cashe buried where it directs.
@@clintxxxracerx9435 Very interesting, thanks for the info!
Maybe things have changed in the treasure hunting world, I wouldn't think
"I found one but nothings there, my friend found one but haven't looked there yet, and I haven't found this one yet but I will " doesn't count as finding three?😅
5 means silver
I'm not convinced at all. For example, how many valuable spanish treasures have you found using this method? Haha but hey, its a fun thing to do and makes an enjoyable bedtime story video for me, so thanks.
LOL, fair enough. Glad you enjoyed it either way.
Although keep at it and enjoy every minute of it. When you get some good results then you can rub my honest opinion back in my stupid face hahaha. They are great videos and very interesting despite my scepticism on the topic. 👍🕵♂️
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Appreciate it. Helps youtube to promote the vids.
What would the Spanish or Indians for that matter be drilling holes in bricks for? Loose bricks
Those are what is referred to as shale rock, they look like bricks but are natural. Indians would mark holes in rocks to use for measuring the winter/summer solstice. Archeologist have documented this being done on the Utah/Colorado border. The Spaniards would drill holes for purposes of marking treasure sites, mines and veins.
@@LowBudgetExploration Very interesting. Thank you for bringing me up to speed on that 1 question. What did the Indians use to make such like to me? Perfect drill holes? I mean that's awesome?
@@rileymanderscheid9805 They would use the surrounding sand/dirt as a cutting mechanism, which consist primarily of small grains of quartz, garnet and feldspar. All of which are very hard materials on the Mohs Scale, especially quartz.
They would take this abrasive sand place on the rock, then grab a round object made of hardwood, piece of bone, or rock if they could find a round one and move the round object back and forth, slowly cutting a semi perfect circle into the rock.
This was done similar to how ancient people started fire using the friction of a stick on a piece of wood. Only in this case they were using this method to make small holes in rock. They would go through a lot of material doing this, but they had plenty to work with.
@@LowBudgetExploration once again thank you for educating me
I don't think the Spanish abandoned much treasure
John, I've wondered about the same thing many times before. Seems kinda odd to leave behind the fruit of so much hard work and risk, but they evidently did. Caches have been discovered in the past 100 plus years.
I think sometimes they just got killed off and that is why some of this stuff got left behind. Just my 2 cents.
In the cave...Looks like you can move that boulder over your left shoulder. It's placed there.
Indians didnt usr european saddles
fish have lips???
Some do. Some even have human looking teeth. No joke. I used to catch them all the time, they are called Sheepheads. Very tasty to eat!!
I cringe everytime your oily hand touches the glyphs. Please wear a glove skin is covered in oils that work to deteriorate. This is Why antiques and art isnt touched bare handedly If you dont wear a glove, you need to stop, talking about that other 10% of folks because, surprise, your one..
Just needed to call your attention to calling the kettle black. So to speak.
Love your videos, when you showed the horses neck ridge line streching across rock, the other shape of glyph looked exactly the same shapes. diamond like
Blah blah blah
That Spanish site wrecker was a trump voter 💯