What an awesome and educational video. You are so right about the strength, fortitude and amazing ingenuity of these great men making the greatest country this world has ever seen.
Your knowledge of geology is impressive. I was always told "gold rides an iron horse" which explains why the placer mines have so much black sand. Always look for transition zones as mineralization often occurs along faults and in the transition zone between. Nice work.
You bet, those old timers were smart and I love there little catch phrases, "Gold Rides an Iron Horse" and similar type phrases. They were very colorful in their descriptions.
You're a really good dude the world needs more people like you. And thank you very much for the history lesson and everything you're a good teacher I appreciate you.
Wonderful to find your channel. My gr grandfather went to Colorado from Germany in the 1870’s snd mined from Central City to Cripple Creek and on to Mexico. I think he was a bit more organized than these chaps but still a hard working life; great to see and appreciate what he and my grandfather after him did out there. Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video. I greatly enjoyed it. I also respect your decision to keep or to not keep the sample you found. personally I am glad you dedided to leave it where you found it. All the best to you my friend! Regards frouens from Ody Slim
Kevan, many thanks. I lived in coal country in S. West Virginia for a number of years. I had friends and neighbors who worked in the coal mines. They would come home with faces covered in coal dust every day. I have a tremendous amount of respect for what you guys do/did. Most people would never have the steadfastness to work in these mines. You guys are bad ass in my book.
They are rather interesting features. Your zones are as follows (beginning at the surface): Gossan Cap, Leached Zone, Oxide Zone, Enrichment Zone, Primary Ore Zone. You also have oxidizing and reducing stages within the structure. I believe these are heavily influenced by the water table, i.e., neutralization of the acid. Your secondary type minerals begin forming in the Enrichment Zone after transitioning from oxidizing to reducing. This is about as deep down the rabbit hole I can travel.
The trend is called the central Colorado mineralized zone! Those, who became wealthy, were the shop keepers, particularly in Golden, who sold supplies to the miners!
An iPhone 12 that is 3+ years old, full of dust (I'm amazed the microphone still works), dropped in small rivers/creeks on 3 different occasions and from a cliff one time. This isn't counting the numerous times it's been dropped on the trail. Another time I lost it in the forrest, I had to back track and took me half a day to find it. Been a dang good phone.
Hi Walter. I leaned that way at first, but there are no carbonate rocks to speak of. Unfortunately I couldn't go into the old mine, but the mining report did list the associated rock. None of which were carbonate. This is why I leaned towards sulfide enrichment, especially with the old gossan present.
@@LowBudgetExploration Yes. A skarn is just a iron rich rock. What you call gossan was the old miner term iron hat or horse. As in the saying gold always rides an iron horse. .Much of the polymetallic veins found around the giant Bingham copper deposit were lead zinc silver veins. The iron cap is the residuals left over after leaching by rainwater on pyrite. Gold rich areas were nearer the central portion of the copper deposit. Skarn or gossan formed between the copper pluton and the surrounding limestone and shales or schists. Gold placers were worked at Bingham in the skarn before open pit mining removed them. I always enjoy watching your videos because of the way you perceive the rocks or clues. It makes me understand things too..Please keep them coming.Thank You!
@@waltertodd4479 Thanks Walter. One thing I enjoy about this type of stuff is its always a continuous education and keeps things interesting and fun. I would love to go back in time and just hang out with those guys around the campfire and hear their stories.
@@LowBudgetExploration Yes, I agree, Basinite. The old prospectors had nothing but time on their hands to observe very simple things about rocks. They also starved if they didn't find a discovery and produce something. I think how you document an old timer common sense approach to prospecting makes your videos be among the best out there...
I do from time to time and also sliver and copper. I've never found any significant deposits or anything like that, nothing worth quitting the day job for. LOL.
Thanks Dylan. I do this for fun and make just enough money from the videos to fill my jeep with gas, purchase some beef jerky, drinks and a can of chew for the next adventure. I have lots of fun doing it and figured sense I'm out in these places anyway, might as well film them and share with others. For me its not a business, its a work of love and hobby. Hopefully the subscribers grow, if not I'm fine with it. Thank you for supporting the channel.
I'm guessing the ore had to be dug with picks and shovels, pulled out of the mine in buckets, then taken to a depot or wherever (?) by horse or mule? It must have been hard, hard work with slim margins.
That's exactly how they would have did it. Whatever trail they used has been overgrown by thick brush. I was able to find bits and pieces of it here and there, but most has vanished. Near the trail I found some pieces of green rock with lots of copper and some old rusted mining buckets. Also found some bits and pieces of pieces of the metal stove down lower in the canyon (not sure why). Maybe they (or someone else) was trying to remove the stove but decided it was too heavy and said F it. LOL.
My friend thank you for your ventures into the back country. Are you in Southern Colorado still? Your knowledge is excellent. How did you learn your geology? You are very knowledgeable.😉
Patrick, thanks and appreciate the compliment. I'm still roaming around between Utah and Colorado. Regarding Geology, I just pick up little bits here and there. Books, websites, TH-cam videos and such. I also try and attend lectures given by Geologist whenever I have the opportunity. If I find something I am curious about, I will research it and etc. Knowing the what/why/how of the rocks makes it funner while out exploring around. I'm still learning as I go and probably always will be. At least I hope so.
Can i send you a video to examine?also i must say your proficient with your perception.also many thanks i appriciate the wisdom in the content.excellent work.
Hi...I own some property at the mouth of red pine canyon would be great to enjoy your company...if u have the time I would like to be educated...Jimmy Reed is my ancestor...my mother has some interesting info...
I think I know your property, beautiful area!. A number of years ago, I almost bought some land that came up for sale across the road from your place. My email is listed in the channel info. You can contact me anytime.
I think they were stopped by the water table and didn't have the technology/resources back then to dig deeper into the primary ore deposits. I would imagine there are still more minerals hidden deep down in that pit.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard it was adding zinc to copper to make bronze! Also,from my landlord who bought used brass,I learned there is red brass as well as yellow brass,or bronze as it's alternate name!
Copper was in high demand during the Industrial Revolution (watch a video I did called Gold from an old spanish mine) which goes into more detail. During much of the 1800's copper was in high demand as they were electrifying (lighting) the cities.
This mine was worked by the Americans in the 1800's during the Colorado Gold Rush, not the Mormons or Spaniards. I honestly don't know what minerals are still waiting to be dug out of the old mine. I imagine they hit the water table and had to give it up. I think there could be other veins hidden on cliff edges, or exposed from natural erosion and etc, those old timers never found. At least its always fun to dream there is......
@@LowBudgetExploration That doesn't sound right. I don't think Basinite would have titled the video with hidden if nobody hid it. Now I want too know who hid it even more. 👍
Great information on how the old miners pick an area to mine. First geologists.
Yes they were and dang good ones at that!! I like your comment, I've never thought of it like that, but you are spot on.
What an awesome and educational video. You are so right about the strength, fortitude and amazing ingenuity of these great men making the greatest country this world has ever seen.
Thank you Nigel and I agree. They are unsung heroes of the old west.
Your knowledge of geology is impressive. I was always told "gold rides an iron horse" which explains why the placer mines have so much black sand. Always look for transition zones as mineralization often occurs along faults and in the transition zone between. Nice work.
You bet, those old timers were smart and I love there little catch phrases, "Gold Rides an Iron Horse" and similar type phrases. They were very colorful in their descriptions.
You're a really good dude the world needs more people like you. And thank you very much for the history lesson and everything you're a good teacher I appreciate you.
Thanks John, I'm just trying to show people a different approach with an emphasis on leaving stuff as you find it out in the wild places.
Once again, a very interesting and informative video... Hope your COPD gets better!
Excellent channel, great info. I’m glad I found you. Far superior to other similar channels in my opinion! Thanks
Thank you very much for your videos. Outstanding sites and information!
My pleasure and thanks for watching.
Just discovered your channel. Very interesting and well done. Thank you!
Cool, welcome aboard.
Well done sir, respect your approach and understanding. Good for you on leaving the ore to tell it's story - it's only worth anything where it's at.
Thanks Mark and I agree 100%.
Enjoyed this one and learning something too! Thanks for taking your time to share this.
Your most welcome and thanks for sharing in the adventure.
Great video! Keep history alive! Thank you
Yes sir, that's what its all about.
I believe I just found a new favourite channel. Thanks for sharing, really enjoying this video!
Thanks prospectpat. It's always nice to meet others who enjoy this type of stuff.
Wonderful to find your channel. My gr grandfather went to Colorado from Germany in the 1870’s snd mined from Central City to Cripple Creek and on to Mexico. I think he was a bit more organized than these chaps but still a hard working life; great to see and appreciate what he and my grandfather after him did out there. Thanks so much!
Absolutely my friend and my pleasure. I love bringing honor and recognition to these old miners. People have forgotten their sacrifices.
Excellent video! Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I greatly enjoyed it. I also respect your decision to keep or to not keep the sample you found.
personally I am glad you dedided to leave it where you found it. All the best to you my friend!
Regards frouens from Ody Slim
Enjoyed your video. Iwas an underground miner and still have an interest in mines
Kevan, many thanks. I lived in coal country in S. West Virginia for a number of years. I had friends and neighbors who worked in the coal mines.
They would come home with faces covered in coal dust every day. I have a tremendous amount of respect for what you guys do/did. Most people would never have the steadfastness to work in these mines. You guys are bad ass in my book.
@@LowBudgetExploration Iam a grandson of a coal miner but was an underground miner in the Homestake Gold mine in SDak for 27years
@@kevanstafne5342 Very cool
Great stuff! Thank you.
Awesome informative video on mining history...was bit by the bug when living in Nevada and later Arizona...just subscribed and thanks for posting!
Thanks Randall and welcome to the Channel.
Awesome content!
Excellent video as well as very educational.
Thanks SPP.
@@LowBudgetExploration You're welcome!
I appreciate you sharing this video and knowledge.
My pleasure and thanks for taking the time to watch.
ENRICHMENT ZONE...THAT is a new concept for me, and I have studied geology in a small degree.
They are rather interesting features. Your zones are as follows (beginning at the surface): Gossan Cap, Leached Zone, Oxide Zone, Enrichment Zone, Primary Ore Zone. You also have oxidizing and reducing stages within the structure. I believe these are heavily influenced by the water table, i.e., neutralization of the acid. Your secondary type minerals begin forming in the Enrichment Zone after transitioning from oxidizing to reducing. This is about as deep down the rabbit hole I can travel.
Thanks for the really great geology lesson from Chalcopyrite to calcosite and also Anthancite. Excellent specimen to explain by.....thanks for sharing
Your most welcome.
Great video & history lesson, thank you for sharing really enjoy your channel! 👍👍😬
Awesome, thank you sir.
Rocks Rule !!.....My kids got so tired of me stopping along road cuts when they were little.....Keep on hiking !
LOL, yes they do!! I can relate to your post, very funny and true.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
The trend is called the central Colorado mineralized zone! Those, who became wealthy, were the shop keepers, particularly in Golden, who sold supplies to the miners!
Very true.
You're putting out quality content sign me up !!
Good job !!😊
Thanks Captain.
I wasn't aware jumping chollas could grow where it snowed.
awesome program. What do you use to film and record your video?
An iPhone 12 that is 3+ years old, full of dust (I'm amazed the microphone still works), dropped in small rivers/creeks on 3 different occasions and from a cliff one time. This isn't counting the numerous times it's been dropped on the trail. Another time I lost it in the forrest, I had to back track and took me half a day to find it. Been a dang good phone.
Wow, realy realy, like your videos, I'm so interested in these old timer gold stories, and your so knowledge able about it.😮😮
Thanks Debbie, I'm glad others out there also enjoy this part of history as well. Not too many people interested in this sort of stuff anymore.
Thanks for sharing that knowledge on mining copper skarn deposits.
Hi Walter. I leaned that way at first, but there are no carbonate rocks to speak of. Unfortunately I couldn't go into the old mine, but the mining report did list the associated rock. None of which were carbonate. This is why I leaned towards sulfide enrichment, especially with the old gossan present.
@@LowBudgetExploration Yes. A skarn is just a iron rich rock. What you call gossan was the old miner term iron hat or horse. As in the saying gold always rides an iron horse. .Much of the polymetallic veins found around the giant Bingham copper deposit were lead zinc silver veins. The iron cap is the residuals left over after leaching by rainwater on pyrite. Gold rich areas were nearer the central portion of the copper deposit. Skarn or gossan formed between the copper pluton and the surrounding limestone and shales or schists. Gold placers were worked at Bingham in the skarn before open pit mining removed them. I always enjoy watching your videos because of the way you perceive the rocks or clues. It makes me understand things too..Please keep them coming.Thank You!
@@waltertodd4479 Thanks Walter. One thing I enjoy about this type of stuff is its always a continuous education and keeps things interesting and fun.
I would love to go back in time and just hang out with those guys around the campfire and hear their stories.
@@LowBudgetExploration Yes, I agree, Basinite. The old prospectors had nothing but time on their hands to observe very simple things about rocks. They also starved if they didn't find a discovery and produce something. I think how you document an old timer common sense approach to prospecting makes your videos be among the best out there...
Very well done.
Thank you
Thanks Boardman.
Thanks for sharing this video🍻👍
Your welcome and my pleasure.
Have you ever found gold? I never have just looking around. You’re awesome . Gas prices went down finally. Rick
I do from time to time and also sliver and copper. I've never found any significant deposits or anything like that, nothing worth quitting the day job for. LOL.
You need more subscribers
Its like. A more tolerable Jeff Williams.
I love Jeff. But he has an energy to behold for sure and i cant always handle it 😂
Thanks Dylan. I do this for fun and make just enough money from the videos to fill my jeep with gas, purchase some beef jerky, drinks and a can of chew for the next adventure.
I have lots of fun doing it and figured sense I'm out in these places anyway, might as well film them and share with others. For me its not a business, its a work of love and hobby. Hopefully the subscribers grow, if not I'm fine with it. Thank you for supporting the channel.
Cool place thanks for sharing .
Your welcome and thanks for watching.
Great video!!
Thanks Chris.
Very cool
Thanks Dale.
good on ya'....thanks for sharing
You bet
nice vid
Thank you sir.
Reminds me of the areas around the Phantom Canyon side of the Pikes Peak Area.
You are in the ball park my friend.
10/10 my friend
Mucho Gracias.
I'm guessing the ore had to be dug with picks and shovels, pulled out of the mine in buckets, then taken to a depot or wherever (?) by horse or mule?
It must have been hard, hard work with slim margins.
That's exactly how they would have did it. Whatever trail they used has been overgrown by thick brush. I was able to find bits and pieces of it here and there, but most has vanished.
Near the trail I found some pieces of green rock with lots of copper and some old rusted mining buckets. Also found some bits and pieces of pieces of the metal stove down lower in the canyon (not sure why). Maybe they (or someone else) was trying to remove the stove but decided it was too heavy and said F it. LOL.
My friend thank you for your ventures into the back country. Are you in Southern Colorado still? Your knowledge is excellent. How did you learn your geology? You are very knowledgeable.😉
Patrick, thanks and appreciate the compliment. I'm still roaming around between Utah and Colorado. Regarding Geology, I just pick up little bits here and there. Books, websites, TH-cam videos and such. I also try and attend lectures given by Geologist whenever I have the opportunity.
If I find something I am curious about, I will research it and etc. Knowing the what/why/how of the rocks makes it funner while out exploring around. I'm still learning as I go and probably always will be. At least I hope so.
Can i send you a video to examine?also i must say your proficient with your perception.also many thanks i appriciate the wisdom in the content.excellent work.
John, sorry about the late reply. Somehow your comment slipped thru my radar. I'm good with that. Just send it to my email.
Hi...I own some property at the mouth of red pine canyon would be great to enjoy your company...if u have the time I would like to be educated...Jimmy Reed is my ancestor...my mother has some interesting info...
I think I know your property, beautiful area!. A number of years ago, I almost bought some land that came up for sale across the road from your place. My email is listed in the channel info. You can contact me anytime.
Nice place to dig gold👋🇫🇮
I think they were stopped by the water table and didn't have the technology/resources back then to dig deeper into the primary ore deposits. I would imagine there are still more minerals hidden deep down in that pit.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard it was adding zinc to copper to make bronze!
Also,from my landlord who bought used brass,I learned there is red brass as well as yellow brass,or bronze as it's alternate name!
Its Tin, somewhere around 10-15%.
What would copper be used for before electronics?
Copper was in high demand during the Industrial Revolution (watch a video I did called Gold from an old spanish mine) which goes into more detail. During much of the 1800's copper was in high demand as they were electrifying (lighting) the cities.
I also know of some interesting sites on pole creek
Most definitely some interesting stuff near Pole Creek.
A fascinating video.Do you think these are still any "open veins" in the area? aka the mormon site or sites the Spanish worked?
This mine was worked by the Americans in the 1800's during the Colorado Gold Rush, not the Mormons or Spaniards. I honestly don't know what minerals are still waiting to be dug out of the old mine. I imagine they hit the water table and had to give it up. I think there could be other veins hidden on cliff edges, or exposed from natural erosion and etc, those old timers never found.
At least its always fun to dream there is......
hi, thanks
@@LowBudgetExploration
Love your expeditions man ever need a second man lmk
Thanks bud, appreciate it.
Should have taken a little piece of that rock love the show xoxo thank you keep sake
Thanks Mike. It's always tempting, but I'm glad I left it.
That chunk of ore with the green oxide @ 9:24 looks a lot like Chrysocolla
It does and very well could be. I leaned towards Malachite, due to the absence of any blue in the mineral.
Another old saying: Red and yellow make a happy fellow. maens Iron and sulphur make a man happy cause it probably carries rich gold ore
Who hid the mine ?
It wasn't hid, it's just located off the beaten path and in an area where normal people don't go. No trails or anything like that.
@@LowBudgetExploration That doesn't sound right. I don't think Basinite would have titled the video with hidden if nobody hid it.
Now I want too know who hid it even more. 👍
For pain they had Opium. They felt no pain.😅
why is it so unsharp?
I'm not sure, it's uploaded in 4k and looks good on my end. Maybe your settings?
They're cess and their loss help build this great nation
Yes sir, it surely did.
Great stuff! Thank you!
My pleasure and glad you enjoyed it.