Bang on the money with the leather jacket myth Stuart! I did some research for an article for our club magazine a few years ago and very few wore leather mainly due to the expense and impracticality. I read that magazines TV and filmmakers would post notices up at the cafes in advance telling riders to dress up in the leathers on the day. Most as You say would buy cheap faux leather so they could get their pics taken and published or appear on film. Did you know that in the late 50s the Vincent riders club adopted the Barbour International as their standard bike jacket? In response Barbour issued the first black jackets! These were the muscle bikes of the era so all young riders emulated them by getting a black International Jacket! Great well researched content thank You!
I remember my Dad telling me once that some documentary series advertised in "The Green un" a bike magazine that they would be filming at the ACE on a certain date encouraging riders to turn up and be on the telly. He and his mates rode there well over a hundred miles. when they got there they were asked to leave because they didn't have leather jackets on and the director wanted a specific look!
Leather jackets as motorcycle gear were popular after WWII with US servicemen who used their standard issue leather flight jackets but the British version that was popular was to use the lambswool shearling flying jackets as worn by RAF and available en-masse from surplus stores. The boots were also available but most couldn't afford them as well as being too bulky so the cheap solution was to use wellies with thick wool socks turned over the tops.
Most of the "leather Jackets" you think you see in the old pictures etc. were rubberized canvass, they looked just like a leather jacket until you got really close or actually handled one. They were cheap and most important they were waterproof! I think Barbour made one called the black shadow or something similar from the mid 1950s? looked just like a Brando type jacket. Makes me chuckle that everyone thinks they all wore leather!
Being of the time, '60's I can say the both waxed jackets and leather Brando type jackets were both popular. I'd say in about equal numbers You might say that the tearaways wore leather and the more "sensible" wore waxed. Lewis Leathers were the gold standard and still fetch top prices. Several waxed makers besides Barbour and Belstaff. If you turned up in a fake black plastic Brando you were likely to get some stick. Faux leather that looked reasonably real just wasn't around back then.
I wore a Barbour International in the 70's. I would store my Players No6 coupons in the top pocket. On the 2nd day after passing my bike test (2 laps around the block and an emergency stop 😉), I saw a single light in my mirror and I snicked down 2 gears and gave the Honda 250 a full twist. As I flew down the A23 a White Norton Commando overtook me and flagged me down and the copper said, classically "OK Mr Sheen.... ". I reached for my piece of precious paper thinking I cocked up and was about to lose my hard-gained (😅) license. That's when all 200 No6 coupons flew out of the pocket like confetti at a gypsy wedding and the copper burst out laughing. He got back on the Norton and proceeded to furiously kick-start the bike with no success. I just hit my starter, gave it full throttle, and buggered off, never to be seen again. I stopped smoking after that, bought a Lewis Leather, and never owned a Barbour again. My girlfriend ( on the pillion) wasn't very impressed but she married me anyway😅
Ah yeah, round the block twice and an emergency stop. In my case the examiner jumped out so early I had to drive towards him before apply brakes. I passed! Early 70's - happy daze!
Morning Stewart. In the late 70's I was given an over size Belstaff jacket. One winter going to Birmingham in heavy rain I put the Belstaff on over my leather jacket. Apart from a touch of dampness around my neck no rain got in and the cold just effected my hands. I was told I looked a right state in that outfit but when you stay dry who cares doing your second favourite thing in the world 😉👍. Honestly I never knew they still made those outfits, not that I have been looking for it. Stay safe and roll on summer 👍.
Hi Stewart, I was one of the ton boys back in the 1960’s. I had a Belstaff outfit, it kept most of the rain out. But to keep warm i had to put old newspapers between the jacket and jumper underneath. I had an Ariel Red Hunter 650 with a side car. It would on occasion’s get to 100, bearing in mind it was geared lower . Just given up riding due to a few health problems, but still follow what’s going on in bikes.
That's what I had from around 1964. Leather was expensive, and quite useless in the wet, we used to wear welly boots with white socks turned over at the top. I still wear textile jackets now , but with armour for added protection. Still riding ( all year ) after 60 years!
Yes indeed, I seem to remember Belstaff being the garb of choice in the late 70s and early 80s due to the fact that they were very reasonably priced and they were warm, dry, windproof and lasted yonks!
They are so nostalgic. Everyone who had one, or a Belstaff, has a tale or memory. I do remember when they were wet and very cold, they would stand up on their own when you took them off .
Around 2020 I made one of my return trips to the UK, I now live in W Australia, being still an avid motorcyclist in my senior years, I treated myself to a Barbour jacket. Big mistake, back home in 35-40c heat I thought I was melting in the black Barbour. I quickly decided to go back to my vented gortex I normally wear ! Oh well we live and learn.
I have ex British military Gortex jacket and pants. Cost me about $75 over 10 years ago. It is the ultimate in keeping me dry. In Wyoming we have storms that come out of nowhere with hail. I got caught out on my KTM990. Cars were taking shelter under road bridges. I kept going, only 10 miles to home. Not a drip got through even down my neck. Only my feet were wet because boots not waterproof. On the side of waxed cotton I still have a Drizabone cattleman’s slicker. Worked great but not traveling as fast on a horse!
Sadly just a fraction of Barbour products are still made in England. But I have seen a few smaller English still make their version of the Barbour jacket here in England, often for a fraction of the price of the Barbours’ made outside the UK
I had Belstaff jacket and trousers in the 70's and still wear a waxed motorcycle jacket now, but due to the inflated price of Belstaffs, it's now a Merlin. Brilliant jacket that's both warm and waterproof.
I still have my Belstaff (with an ACE Cafe patch) that I bought about 40 years ago. I usually wear them on really old motorbikes. And I agree with you that Merlin probably makes the best waxed cotton clothing today at a reasonable price and in Scottish fabric. It somehow suits a modern classic as it is a modern classic itself.
I’ve got my grandfathers Barbour jacket. It’s easily one of my favorites. Winter season I’ll pair it up with waxed fjallraven pants and I’m full waterproof!
Good morning Stu. Good video. I started biking at the end of the 60’s so missed the cafe racer era. Most of the rockers I knew wore ex WD leather jackets as they were readily available & cheap. My first leather jacket was from Lewis leathers and cost me £14. I’ve not owned a Barber jacket as I’ve always stayed with leather but I’ve always thought that they look very stylish.
@@andrewallen9993 I had the lightning jacket. It got messed up in an accident but I kept it for years. A few weeks after I did bin it, I saw an advert from Lewis saying they’d buy old jackets to make patterns from. Bugger.
I bought my Barbour International suit, jacket and trousers, new in 1987 and still wear it! A few patches, worn through inner lining, but regularly re-waxed it is still waterproof even on long journeys in the rain and looks the business on my 1953 AJS… An armoured shirt underneath adds safety. I recently bought a second one, a lighter 6oz version on ebay, being two sizes larger, which I can wear it over a leather jacket if I get caught in the rain. The quality is not as good as the original 8oz version, but because it is lighter, it can be easily stowed away.
I have had the Berliner version of this jacket, which is identical but has built in body armour compartments in the lining. An excellent jacket which I have used for fourteen years and it still looks as good as new. The bonus with a Barbour jacket is that the factory offers a repair and refurbishment service, so mine should see me out even if I take a tumble.
I bought a Belstaff jacket about 20 plus years ago and I have only worn it a handful of times. The fabric back then was specific to motorcycling and much thicker than the fashion jackets they make today. I have waxed it every year and it's in as new condition. I wore it out once last year and somebody approached me and offered to buy it from me for a pretty sum. Needless to say I have kept it.
A lovely jacket for any classic rider and enjoyed the detailed review. I just got the “Accolade” version of this in a brown colour. It’s a Barbour remake of the first Trials jacket worn back in 1937. It’s got a plain velour neck lining and a plain fabric lining rather than the usual Barbour plaid pattern. I got the XL size and it’s pretty true to my usual fit and I can get a thin armoured shirt on underneath together with a T shirt and a thin jumper. The person that sold it to me said that a tip is to put it in a warm tumble drier to get the creases out from the delivery packing and folding but I haven’t tried that yet (a bit concerned about wax residue going on other clothes) so it’s hanging up in the airing cupboard for now. Being right handed I always have my jacket belt buckle on the left and move it to the side to avoid the dreaded tank scratches. Not cheap but a great classic investment garment that definitely just gets better with age. I haven’t tried the Belstaff alternative with armour built in but that would not be as versatile in some respects IMHO.
I'm very happy to find your channel Stewart. I'm from the New England area, USA and appreciate your discerning nature. Thank you for all the effort put into video making and research. WCW
Thanks for the video, and one more note, this very jacket also comes in a tailored slim fit,unlike the regular it has a bit longer length and sizes are by international standard from s-to xxl
Another of my favourite old photos of Internationals being used and worn was in a Barbour brochure years ago, knowing me, probably late 90s or early 2000s. It shows the East German TT racers, in the early 1950s wearing them, looking happy and triumphant, no pun intended, but possibly after their class win, if my memory is good enough, maybe it was the sidecar category. It's great to see other people wearing them, not just Steve McQueen and his trial photos, or seeing celebs in wellies at Glastonbury. I'm sure i wore mine every day since new, until it resembled tatters and Barbour quoting me £250 per bellow pocket replacement. Oooffff. It's still just about wearable but looks ike I've skated down the tarmac a few times wearing it. I can't bring myself to bin it
In the mid 90s an older buddy gave me a waxed coat that I took to be a Barbour’s or Belstaff but the logo above the pocket was TT Leathers. He road raced back in the 70s so it made sense. I wore that coat a lot when riding trials or helping create sections in preparation for putting on an event. Sadly the thing just got so old that the fabric was falling apart so it had to be thrown away.
My wife and I wear Barbour all the time, we have several between us. Always stylish, always weatherproof. We get ours from Roy’s of Wroxham, in Norfolk.
Couldn’t afford a Barbour in ‘72 as a schoolboy so I had a PVC thing from Pride &Clark mail order with a postal order! Then a Belstaff when I started work which I had for 30 years and eventually got a Barbour! All things come to him who waits! Still has a unique and musty smell - maybe not perfect for a date! Nice film Stuart!
I have a Triumph Barbour wax jacket, with armour, that seems to be lasting well. I also bought one for my wife when she rides pillion. You can’t get them anymore. I waxed it once a few years back. Last year I decided to use the Barbour Clean and Wax service to clean off the road grime too. The Barbour Clean and Wax service is brilliant and easy to use. I also have a Barbour “Reelin” jacket that I bought for dog walking, which is the jacket I keep by the door and use for chores etc. It is more fitted than most of their jackets. Never thought of myself as a Barbour type until I escaped to the country twenty years ago.
Looked at a Belstaff Trialmaster for old time's sake, as I virtually lived in on in the 1980s. I paid £33 for mine back then, they are now £650. Even allowing for inflation that's quite a rise for a jacket that looks great but isn't particularly warm, or waterproof or protective. Barbour used to make a proper WW2 style dispatch rider's jacket. Ankle length with various ties and buckles to keep the rain out. I had one years ago until it reached a scrofulous state.
Thank you sir. This video arrived at just the right time. I’m in the process of kitting out for a three month tour of the Scandinavia & the Baltics this summer. On the back of your video I ordered the Union Jack version and it arrived today. I am absolutely delighted with it. The quality is excellent and the fit and comfort the same. I don’t care for body armour, I find it uncomfortable. I like the big pockets and the fact it doesn’t feel like a straight jacket. Price was a very reasonable £231 and I couldn’t be any happier 🙂🇬🇧✌🏻
Back in the day I was a motorcycle courier, I wore a wax cotton jacket and trousers, every day during winter, it never leaked or made me sweat. I don't even remember being cold, maybe I was more resilient then( I know my bladder was better!) Steve Mcqueen died far too young, he was quite a real cool guy.We will never forget that fence jump or that car chase!! Nice to see a British company surviving the onslaught from the East and still making sproducts to the original design and quality. Thank you for sharing your purchase with us. Again thank you Stuart.
It's all a matter of personal preference of course, but in my humble and unimportant opinion the Barbour International jacket is the greatest bit of motorcycling kit ever created !.. My Dad had one from being a teenager (so of course when I was a teenager I didn't want one and bought a Belstaff instead !..) He had no liner when he was a kid (not sure they made one at the time ?..) but he said it was pretty commonplace to wear a thick jumper, then fold a newspaper to size and shove that inside your Barbour to stave off the worst of the cold !.. When I was 21 my girlfriend of the time - now my wife - bought me a Barbour International for Christmas, I started to get a bit 'ungrateful' until I tried it on and realised how fantastically well designed it was, the upshot is that I've never been without one ever since and as long as Barbour keep making them I never will be !..
Hi Stuart, Loved your Video on Barbour jackets. I have two, a brown trials version, but more importantly, a leather one. This is the jacket of choice when I ride my Bonneville. I have actually owned it for over thirty years, it has had a couple of minor repairs, once when the stitching on the back failed, and once when one of the press studs broke. I have never had any item of clothing that has attracted as much comment as this jacket, and not just from other bikers. It is identical to the waxed cotton version and cost quite a lot when I bought it new. I used to run an autojumble years ago, and having had a particularly successful event, I decided to treat myself when I came across it. I have not seen another since. I wear it regularly, and I love it. If they made it now, I am sure I would not be able to afford one. Best wishes, love your work. Ian Peterson
Not had the motorcycle specific jacket but have had a Barbour Beaufort for 40 years now. Has been regularly dragged through thorn & bramble hedges backwards during its time. Still good but will be sending it back to Barbour for a full service in the summer. Excellent jackets & great review Stu, may treat myself to the bike version very soon.
Great review Stuart! I have been using AeroStitch products for over 35 years here in the USA and they now make a waxed cotton version called the Falstaff Jacket which has a traditional look but also has vents and armor. Pricey, but worth a look. Happy New Year! Also your partner looks very smart in her new jacket!
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode! I own a Barbour and it's one of the best purchases I made. I make sure it's re-waxed and it's still going strong after 7 years.
Yes, Stuart - I used to have a well-used second-hand Barbour coat & trousers over 40 years ago - they were definitely in need of rewaxing, as they were certainly not waterproof! Nice to see that you have enlisted another cast member for your filming, but to continue the theme, Willow should have been wearing a Barbour dog coat as well!
I remember when i started riding bikes legally at 16 , my Nan bought me a Belstaff trials master jacket , it was great i used to carry a plug spanner and couple of other necessary tools in the pockets , not a good idea if you fell off , i got a warmer jacket which i got from an Army & Navy stores in Liverpool in a sale for £7 . 7shillings & 6 old pennies , it was a leather flying jacket the type R A F pilots wore , My wife bought me a great wax cotton jacket couldnt wear it out still got it , but it no longer fits me , so i bought another one from speed wear another great jacket, even though i have other R S T etc . Great video.
Had a Barbour waxed cotton jacket in the early 80s - it was really good, especially once it got a bit worn in and dirty. Kept me warm and dry in some horrible weather.
Uncle Stu, that brought back good memories! First jacket was a Brando cafe racer leather style - looked bloody good too - absolutely useless outside of posing! Belstaff wax cotton copy of Barbour jacket was a revelation until I ran out of talent and destroyed the bike, jacket and almost myself! But, rebuilt the busted bike, body and treated that leather jacket with wax and it finished me out of the clip-on rear set phase before I worked out waxed cotton and sitting up watching the world at a less frantic pace could be so enjoyable! Thanks for the nostalgia🤗
I wore a Barbour back in the early 80s, mainly for wet days but one of the few properly waterproof jackets at the time. Merlin do pretty good copies with armour/liners etc at a decent price
Agree with you 100%. I had a black Belstaff waxed jacket in the late 1970’s, and coupled with an army surplus green shoulder pad jumper underneath, was enough to keep out the cold and wet throughout the bleakest of winters. I must admit to having a Lewis Leathers quilted leather jacket as well, but that was kept for best!
Interesting video. As someone from "back in those days" my cohort tended to use whatever they could afford. Ex RAF leather flying jackets could be bought cheaply from Army and Navy stores as could the old Aqua Scootems. Never came across a Burberry in our neck of the woods though. I still have my 1952 US Army Parka from then that I actually used on a motorbike and still do. Sometimes now I use an Aussie brand (Drizabone) waxed horse riding coat (see Man from Snowy River) works well on a bike but no good in our summers. Thirty plus C heat and you need a good bit of airflow.🙂
My Dad said he couldnt afford a Barbour in the late 50s he eventually bought a belstaff black prince which was a rubberised cotton, (he still has it ) i had a barbour when i was an apprentice, which was ruined after i was knocked off my bike, and have often wondered about getting another, this video brought back memories, especially the map pocket where you could safely store an OS road map
I had a TT Leathers (remember them) clone in Red. As they were based, and made in the north east in the late 1960s so probably some Barbour expertise as they are based in the same area. I bought a new Barbour International on sale about 15 years ago. Great jacket even reproofed it a couple of times. Wore it a bit on the bike but the lack of modern pads made it seem less safe. However last year bought one of the padded shirts to wear under the Barbour and it is a great combination.
Love these jackets. I bought my first waxed jacket (Belstaff) trailmaster around 47 years ago. I brought it to Canada with me when I emigrated in 81 and wore it for another ten years or so. got rid when it shrunk, (I got fat). Bought another Trailmaster about ten years ago, this one had both elbow and back D30 armour. My wife has a (Barbour) Triumph branded wax jacket. Did not know that Belstaf copied Barbour. Never too old to learn. Great video. All the best for 2024.
My late dad had either a mac ! or his irvin army (airforce) surplus flying jacket and a beret ! I still fancy a Barbour, when I started I went to lewis leathers and still have my 1st jacket, if I breathe in I can almost zip it up still 🙂
Hi Stewart, still wearing my belstaff trialmaster since 1994, I think I've had my money's worth! Still in good condition if you look after them and wax every few years. Great video.
Not being a ton-up boy - back in the very early '60 my all-year bike was a Jawa 250 - I had a leather-look bomber jacket for around town when I was home on leave, but my regular riding kit was a heavy PVC two-piece suit from Lewis Leathers over the top of my battle-dress uniform. Combined with fur-lined flying boots, fur-lined gauntlets, jet-style helmet with Mk.8 flying goggles and a knitted woollen scarf around my neck and lower face, I may not have been able to feel fingers or toes on my 75-mile each way commute, but at least I was dry! The fact that I looked like the Michelin Man mattered not at all. 😊
Hello Stuart, great video! I'm a Historian and I do appreciate a lot this kind of content since the main target of my professional researches is the cultural (and artistic) aspect of History. Besides that I guess I'm also what people usually call "an avid motorcyclist" so everyting in this video pleases me. Thank you! I can't recall your video on which you share your thoughs about armor and I'd like watch it. Could you please provide me the link of that video? Thank you once again, all the best from Brazil. ✌
I have a cruiser from Scippis, for decades. I make my own wax , but also use an English brand: waterproof wax , GOLD LABEL. This wax doesn’t need to be melted. Just put it on and use a hairdryer or paintstripper (be careful) to warm it up and get into the fibers. Very good result. Make wax: beeswax in pellets, paraffine in pellets and mineral oil. You need a pot and Bain Marie, because it can start to burn. If you warm the water in a big pot, you put the ingredients in another metal pot, which you put in the water. When ready, put the mixture in a silicone baking form and you end up with bars of wax. The less oil you put in, the harder the coat will be. Normal wear: 30% beeswax, 40 paraffine and 30% oil.
In 1966 aged 18yrs I bought the jacket and trousers for £100 and lived in the jacket as I went everywhere by bike. At weekends wore my suit underneath when going to the club. Biggest drawback when it wanted re waxing. Today aged 76yrs I generally wear Merlin textile gear.👍🏍
I have two of these, both in black, one slightly larger , so I get a good fit summer or winter. Both bought within 6 months of each other, one from Barbour, one from an independent. One has cotton tartan lining in the sleeves, the other has a nylon material .
Leather motorcycle gear is lower cost these days, but a good Barbour jacket would be nice. Here in the states I just use a black military jacket. Very comfortable and looks very similar to a Barbour jacket
Retired last month, was going to treat myself to a clasic 350 but my wife wanted a new kitchen so to keep the peace I'll just get this jacket to give the impression I've got a motorbike
Yes, when riding long distances back in the 70’s Belstaffs or Barbour were the only thing back then that kept you anywhere near dry along with seaman’s thick white socks , plastic bags on your feet and the rear zip long leather boots. Then along came waterproof cordura material and the rubber Derry boot in the 80’s, what a difference ! I would like to buy a new Belstaff now, but the cost is ludicrous !! They have now become a fashion item, like so many things.
Here in California I got a Barbour jacket for my 15th birthday in 1970. It was fantastic for AMA District 36/37 enduros in the winter! I also wore it riding my sort of road legal Penton 175 Jackpiner to high school when it was raining. It got lost in a move in the late 70's, sigh.
In 1959 when I started was the Trailmaster the Barbour competition - boots and gloves from the Army Navy stores - plenty perfect - am still riding - Motorcycles are awesome
Good Morning Stu , this takes me back as i had both the Belstaff & Barbour , My mates wife was a supervisor at Barbour & she refurbished mine , so take care & ride safe
I must agree that wax cotton is best. Over here in Australia I have so many riding jackets, but the best by far is s my Dryrider wax cotton which is a Barbour lookalike , I wax it every couple of years and it makes it 100 percent water proof. It has a quilted inner which is removable for our hot summers. Perfect jacket for riding compared to all my others whether leather or others..
A very interesting and entertaining video Stuart. I didn't know Barbour have such a link with motorcycling. I am keen to know your views about armour. Please post a link to your previous video on that subject. All the best 👍
Hi Stuart,spot on ,now I wrote to Barbour and explained the were missing a trick.How could they lose sales to Belstaff without whimper. Offer some high tech armour in key places or to keep you happy a practise made armour jacket. I emphasised in my e mail I rode a RE 650 and really looked the business thus attired.Gues what no answer.... Similar story with the Barbour Soey fishing jacket I go salmon fishing and sgain the traditional is best. They did a short run recently and they sold out to the fashionistas instantly and now go for 500 quid second hand. Theh need people like us directing business it is acgreat company employing lovely Yorkshire ladies but I wonder if they should address the motorcycling and fishing markets directly Cheers Dr Jeff
Hi Stewart, My early motorcycling days in the 60s, the Barbour international was de rigor. Mine lasted years, when after much use and a fair bit of trials competition, I bought a Belstaff jacket. Oh boy what a disappointment that was. The material was not as robust, but the clincher to get rid was the poppers were coming apart so I could not close the front or pockets. When I bought my Royal Enfield Himalayan, I bought a Barbour international Here in France and since I swapped the bike for a 350 classic it is once again a pleasure to ride in comfort, Just my experience.
I completely forgot about this Stuart, and yes, I waxed cotton jacket was my first motorcycle jacket. In fact, I had two of them one after the other had completely worn out…. Then after about 10 years of riding, I managed to afford to buy some good leathers….. a Manx leather jacket and fieldsheer leather trousers….. still have the leathers and I’m looking for a wax jacket…. Great article.
Barbour jacket, white silk scarf, black motorbike boots with long socks turned down over the top, silver helmet and flying goggles. A bike with rear sets, swept back pipes and clip ons and you have the complete cafe racer/ ton up boy!
Great video Stuart…own and do ride with my wax Barbour jacket (with under armour). Although not the Barbour International (Barbour Corbridge wax rustic jacket but you do have to go up 1 size!). Lovely to see Willow out and a debut appearance of the beautiful Mrs who you’ve been hiding all these years.
Massive thanks for this one. I wore a really good latex suit in the rain back in the 80's but it was an ugly bright blue (but high vis.) and was finished after the first couple of rips.
I've been the proud owner of a Barbour International jacket for about 20 years, but the black nylon material version. "Waterproof and breathable" it says on the inside label, and I can attest to its excellent performance!
Exactly right Stuart. I was given an old Barbour Jacket when I first started riding on mates pillions and always determined to get another when it wore out! Luckily for me I live about 15/20 miles from the Barbour factory in South Shields so popped along to have a look in the factory shop. Unknown to me I was looking at a "Seconds" rail and the lady said they were £60 each and pick the one you want! I got one and to this day I have not found any reason for it to warrant the Seconds tag?? I have the Barbour, a leather jacket and a gore tex but the Barbour is still my jacket of choice especially in warmer weather! All my mates also wore Barbour or Belstaff it looked funny on a cold night going to the local as the jackets were so stiff they stood up on their own in a bunch, like well trained dogs waiting for us!!! LOL
Hi Stewart. I got my first bike in 1965. My first jacket was second hand & leather. A similar type to Brando's in the wild one. In 1968 ish I was part of a group of local motorcyclist's who rode to Skegness. It was a Mod's V Rocker event. Nearly all motorcyclists wore Leather Jackets in my era. The minority in Wax Cotton. I started racing bikes in 1970. I bought my first pair of race leather from Lewis on HP. Great days
Mr. Fillingham- Thanks for the information about the waxed cotton jackets vs. leather ones. I have wondered for years how you British riders deal with your weather; as I have noted shortcomings of leather in the rain. Your videos are always fun and helpful! Bob
Hi Stewart,Very useful episode,ordered a Barbour jacket from John Lewis,my thought being if it’s wrong size easy to return via Waitrose and reorder correct size.Very pleased with it and at £265 cheaper than Barbour.Thanks for the recommendation.
In the film " Leather Boys " from 1964, starring Rita Tushingham and Colin Campbell, Dudley Sutton and the actor that played Mike Baldwin in Coronation Street, a few Barbour International A7 jackets can be seen.
Belstaff gear for me. I had a full two piece leather suit made by Lewis Leathers in 1969, £29-10 shillings made to measure, Lewis Leathers Flight Boots, as well, still got a pair somewhere. Most people had an ex-Dispatch Rider Trench Coat for winter. Ton-up boys was a feature of the Sunday Pictorial, who paid a team of Yobs to have a staged fight in Clacton.
Great Video Stu, I remember my dad had one back in the day. I at the time went the leather route but just love it and I think I will invest in one. Such a great Jacket. Thanks.
I have got a soft spot for waxed cottons motorcycle jackets and I own a late 70s Belstaff Trialmaster and an early 2000 - Made in England (check the label when you buy one as they are all made elsewhere now, that’s why I bought an old, secondhand one) - Barbour International jacket. The Belstaff is made of a much heavier cotton than the Barbour and has got a more rugged look, but both are great quality, can be repaired and rewaxed. Only downside is that they are not breathable, unlike some of the more modern waterproof fabrics used in other motorcycle jackets.
Great review Stuart, just purchased one on Vinted new with labels £150 and did what you advised and try one on. Got it to wear with our new to me Triumph Bonnivelle T120. My wife and I also got a set of Knox under armour shirt and pants to do the DGR in May. Love the videos you produce. Roll on dry days.
I ordered a belstaff trailmaster royal Enfield 120 years edition from RE's website yesterday, so i guess its perfect timing for me to watch this video. Do consider making a video on the re waxing process and details. Superb video as always. Cheers
My first motorcycle jacket was my neighbor’s Korean War Army Fatigue jacket that he wore in Korea. He liked my new 1968 Honda 50, but I think his wife wouldn’t let him have a motorcycle, so he gave it to me. When winter came I convinced my friend to trade for the Wool US Navy Peacoat that his Dad had given him. That peacoat lasted me through 4 years of college on and off my 1972 Honda 350. I would like a Barbour, but they cost more than £6 here. You look sharp in yours with your flat cap.😎👍
I had a gold top leather jacket. Made in Hull,my home town i kept it for years and later my daughter discovered it, mouldy and smelly but we rubbed it with saddle soap and the lining with a bit of persil and she wore it for a fair few years complete with my triumph and matchless badges but only for fashion purposes. It was hopeless in rain and snow but typical female it was the look that mattered to me.
Agreed Stuart . But then the whole 60s thing is viewed throught rose colour specs. It was not all hippy free love. My £5 a week wage didn't allow me much freedom at all. Still use waxed cotton but amoured ( weighs a ton) Started wearing Belstaff Trial master gear in 73 when I rode an OSSA MAR in competion. Even old Sammy Miller swore by it.
I have the Barbour Trooper model (without belt). It's marvelous. Unfortunately Babour's representative left Argentina some years ago and these kind of jackets are not available any more. And rewaxing turned difficult because of the lack of dealers and shops.
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Bang on the money with the leather jacket myth Stuart! I did some research for an article for our club magazine a few years ago and very few wore leather mainly due to the expense and impracticality. I read that magazines TV and filmmakers would post notices up at the cafes in advance telling riders to dress up in the leathers on the day. Most as You say would buy cheap faux leather so they could get their pics taken and published or appear on film. Did you know that in the late 50s the Vincent riders club adopted the Barbour International as their standard bike jacket? In response Barbour issued the first black jackets! These were the muscle bikes of the era so all young riders emulated them by getting a black International Jacket! Great well researched content thank You!
I did know about the Vincent thing, Perhaps should have mentioned it! Thanks for the comment!
I remember my Dad telling me once that some documentary series advertised in "The Green un" a bike magazine that they would be filming at the ACE on a certain date encouraging riders to turn up and be on the telly. He and his mates rode there well over a hundred miles. when they got there they were asked to leave because they didn't have leather jackets on and the director wanted a specific look!
Leather jackets as motorcycle gear were popular after WWII with US servicemen who used their standard issue leather flight jackets but the British version that was popular was to use the lambswool shearling flying jackets as worn by RAF and available en-masse from surplus stores. The boots were also available but most couldn't afford them as well as being too bulky so the cheap solution was to use wellies with thick wool socks turned over the tops.
Most of the "leather Jackets" you think you see in the old pictures etc. were rubberized canvass, they looked just like a leather jacket until you got really close or actually handled one. They were cheap and most important they were waterproof! I think Barbour made one called the black shadow or something similar from the mid 1950s? looked just like a Brando type jacket. Makes me chuckle that everyone thinks they all wore leather!
Being of the time, '60's I can say the both waxed jackets and leather Brando type jackets were both popular. I'd say in about equal numbers You might say that the tearaways wore leather and the more "sensible" wore waxed. Lewis Leathers were the gold standard and still fetch top prices. Several waxed makers besides Barbour and Belstaff. If you turned up in a fake black plastic Brando you were likely to get some stick. Faux leather that looked reasonably real just wasn't around back then.
I wore a Barbour International in the 70's. I would store my Players No6 coupons in the top pocket. On the 2nd day after passing my bike test (2 laps around the block and an emergency stop 😉), I saw a single light in my mirror and I snicked down 2 gears and gave the Honda 250 a full twist. As I flew down the A23 a White Norton Commando overtook me and flagged me down and the copper said, classically "OK Mr Sheen.... ". I reached for my piece of precious paper thinking I cocked up and was about to lose my hard-gained (😅) license. That's when all 200 No6 coupons flew out of the pocket like confetti at a gypsy wedding and the copper burst out laughing. He got back on the Norton and proceeded to furiously kick-start the bike with no success. I just hit my starter, gave it full throttle, and buggered off, never to be seen again. I stopped smoking after that, bought a Lewis Leather, and never owned a Barbour again. My girlfriend ( on the pillion) wasn't very impressed but she married me anyway😅
Ah yeah, round the block twice and an emergency stop. In my case the examiner jumped out so early I had to drive towards him before apply brakes. I passed! Early 70's - happy daze!
@newbymick1 Top story mate 👍
Morning Stewart. In the late 70's I was given an over size Belstaff jacket. One winter going to Birmingham in heavy rain I put the Belstaff on over my leather jacket. Apart from a touch of dampness around my neck no rain got in and the cold just effected my hands. I was told I looked a right state in that outfit but when you stay dry who cares doing your second favourite thing in the world 😉👍. Honestly I never knew they still made those outfits, not that I have been looking for it. Stay safe and roll on summer 👍.
Hi Stewart, I was one of the ton boys back in the 1960’s. I had a Belstaff outfit, it kept most of the rain out. But to keep warm i had to put old newspapers between the jacket and jumper underneath. I had an Ariel Red Hunter 650 with a side car. It would on occasion’s get to 100, bearing in mind it was geared lower . Just given up riding due to a few health problems, but still follow what’s going on in bikes.
That's what I had from around 1964. Leather was expensive, and quite useless in the wet, we used to wear welly boots with white socks turned over at the top. I still wear textile jackets now , but with armour for added protection. Still riding ( all year ) after 60 years!
Yes indeed, I seem to remember Belstaff being the garb of choice in the late 70s and early 80s due to the fact that they were very reasonably priced and they were warm, dry, windproof and lasted yonks!
They are so nostalgic. Everyone who had one, or a Belstaff, has a tale or memory. I do remember when they were wet and very cold, they would stand up on their own when you took them off .
Around 2020 I made one of my return trips to the UK, I now live in W Australia, being still an avid motorcyclist in my senior years, I treated myself to a Barbour jacket. Big mistake, back home in 35-40c heat I thought I was melting in the black Barbour. I quickly decided to go back to my vented gortex I normally wear ! Oh well we live and learn.
I have ex British military Gortex jacket and pants. Cost me about $75 over 10 years ago. It is the ultimate in keeping me dry. In Wyoming we have storms that come out of nowhere with hail. I got caught out on my KTM990. Cars were taking shelter under road bridges. I kept going, only 10 miles to home. Not a drip got through even down my neck. Only my feet were wet because boots not waterproof. On the side of waxed cotton I still have a Drizabone cattleman’s slicker. Worked great but not traveling as fast on a horse!
I can almost read your better half's mind
"Hurry up Stuart, I feel a right wazzock parading about like this"
Another history lesson most do not know. Well done!
Quality British made ,the TV programme "Made in Britain " did a great job showing how they are made . Very sustainable product.
Sadly just a fraction of Barbour products are still made in England. But I have seen a few smaller English still make their version of the Barbour jacket here in England, often for a fraction of the price of the Barbours’ made outside the UK
I had Belstaff jacket and trousers in the 70's and still wear a waxed motorcycle jacket now, but due to the inflated price of Belstaffs, it's now a Merlin. Brilliant jacket that's both warm and waterproof.
I still have my Belstaff (with an ACE Cafe patch) that I bought about 40 years ago. I usually wear them on really old motorbikes. And I agree with you that Merlin probably makes the best waxed cotton clothing today at a reasonable price and in Scottish fabric. It somehow suits a modern classic as it is a modern classic itself.
I went into a Barbour shop.
Had a short back and sides .
He asked, do you want anything for the weekend? I took a Radio Times!!!
I’ve got my grandfathers Barbour jacket. It’s easily one of my favorites. Winter season I’ll pair it up with waxed fjallraven pants and I’m full waterproof!
Thanks Stuart. Greatly appreciate your efforts and insight. Bless you and your family.
Good morning Stu. Good video. I started biking at the end of the 60’s so missed the cafe racer era. Most of the rockers I knew wore ex WD leather jackets as they were readily available & cheap. My first leather jacket was from Lewis leathers and cost me £14. I’ve not owned a Barber jacket as I’ve always stayed with leather but I’ve always thought that they look very stylish.
@@andrewallen9993 I had the lightning jacket. It got messed up in an accident but I kept it for years. A few weeks after I did bin it, I saw an advert from Lewis saying they’d buy old jackets to make patterns from. Bugger.
I bought my Barbour International suit, jacket and trousers, new in 1987 and still wear it! A few patches, worn through inner lining, but regularly re-waxed it is still waterproof even on long journeys in the rain and looks the business on my 1953 AJS… An armoured shirt underneath adds safety. I recently bought a second one, a lighter 6oz version on ebay, being two sizes larger, which I can wear it over a leather jacket if I get caught in the rain. The quality is not as good as the original 8oz version, but because it is lighter, it can be easily stowed away.
I have had the Berliner version of this jacket, which is identical but has built in body armour compartments in the lining. An excellent jacket which I have used for fourteen years and it still looks as good as new. The bonus with a Barbour jacket is that the factory offers a repair and refurbishment service, so mine should see me out even if I take a tumble.
I bought a Belstaff jacket about 20 plus years ago and I have only worn it a handful of times. The fabric back then was specific to motorcycling and much thicker than the fashion jackets they make today.
I have waxed it every year and it's in as new condition. I wore it out once last year and somebody approached me and offered to buy it from me for a pretty sum.
Needless to say I have kept it.
A lovely jacket for any classic rider and enjoyed the detailed review. I just got the “Accolade” version of this in a brown colour. It’s a Barbour remake of the first Trials jacket worn back in 1937. It’s got a plain velour neck lining and a plain fabric lining rather than the usual Barbour plaid pattern. I got the XL size and it’s pretty true to my usual fit and I can get a thin armoured shirt on underneath together with a T shirt and a thin jumper. The person that sold it to me said that a tip is to put it in a warm tumble drier to get the creases out from the delivery packing and folding but I haven’t tried that yet (a bit concerned about wax residue going on other clothes) so it’s hanging up in the airing cupboard for now. Being right handed I always have my jacket belt buckle on the left and move it to the side to avoid the dreaded tank scratches. Not cheap but a great classic investment garment that definitely just gets better with age. I haven’t tried the Belstaff alternative with armour built in but that would not be as versatile in some respects IMHO.
Excellent review.
I knew the moment TH-cam recommended your channel, I needed to subscribe. This video is just another reason why. Cheers from Pittsburgh again!
I'm very happy to find your channel Stewart. I'm from the New England area, USA and appreciate your discerning nature. Thank you for all the effort put into video making and research.
WCW
Thanks for the video, and one more note, this very jacket also comes in a tailored slim fit,unlike the regular it has a bit longer length and sizes are by international standard from s-to xxl
Another of my favourite old photos of Internationals being used and worn was in a Barbour brochure years ago, knowing me, probably late 90s or early 2000s. It shows the East German TT racers, in the early 1950s wearing them, looking happy and triumphant, no pun intended, but possibly after their class win, if my memory is good enough, maybe it was the sidecar category. It's great to see other people wearing them, not just Steve McQueen and his trial photos, or seeing celebs in wellies at Glastonbury. I'm sure i wore mine every day since new, until it resembled tatters and Barbour quoting me £250 per bellow pocket replacement. Oooffff. It's still just about wearable but looks ike I've skated down the tarmac a few times wearing it. I can't bring myself to bin it
In the mid 90s an older buddy gave me a waxed coat that I took to be a Barbour’s or Belstaff but the logo above the pocket was TT Leathers. He road raced back in the 70s so it made sense. I wore that coat a lot when riding trials or helping create sections in preparation for putting on an event. Sadly the thing just got so old that the fabric was falling apart so it had to be thrown away.
My wife and I wear Barbour all the time, we have several between us. Always stylish, always weatherproof. We get ours from Roy’s of Wroxham, in Norfolk.
Couldn’t afford a Barbour in ‘72 as a schoolboy so I had a PVC thing from Pride &Clark mail order with a postal order! Then a Belstaff when I started work which I had for 30 years and eventually got a Barbour! All things come to him who waits! Still has a unique and musty smell - maybe not perfect for a date! Nice film Stuart!
I have a Triumph Barbour wax jacket, with armour, that seems to be lasting well. I also bought one for my wife when she rides pillion. You can’t get them anymore. I waxed it once a few years back. Last year I decided to use the Barbour Clean and Wax service to clean off the road grime too. The Barbour Clean and Wax service is brilliant and easy to use. I also have a Barbour “Reelin” jacket that I bought for dog walking, which is the jacket I keep by the door and use for chores etc. It is more fitted than most of their jackets. Never thought of myself as a Barbour type until I escaped to the country twenty years ago.
Looked at a Belstaff Trialmaster for old time's sake, as I virtually lived in on in the 1980s. I paid £33 for mine back then, they are now £650. Even allowing for inflation that's quite a rise for a jacket that looks great but isn't particularly warm, or waterproof or protective. Barbour used to make a proper WW2 style dispatch rider's jacket. Ankle length with various ties and buckles to keep the rain out. I had one years ago until it reached a scrofulous state.
Scrofulous is a brilliant word, thanks for sharing it!
They do come with “armor” now, so there’s that…
Remember a Barbour is for life not just Christmas Mrs Fillingham!
Thank you sir. This video arrived at just the right time.
I’m in the process of kitting out for a three month tour of the Scandinavia & the Baltics this summer.
On the back of your video I ordered the Union Jack version and it arrived today.
I am absolutely delighted with it. The quality is excellent and the fit and comfort the same.
I don’t care for body armour, I find it uncomfortable. I like the big pockets and the fact it doesn’t feel like a straight jacket.
Price was a very reasonable £231 and I couldn’t be any happier 🙂🇬🇧✌🏻
Back in the day I was a motorcycle courier, I wore a wax cotton jacket and trousers, every day during winter, it never leaked or made me sweat. I don't even remember being cold, maybe I was more resilient then( I know my bladder was better!) Steve Mcqueen died far too young, he was quite a real cool guy.We will never forget that fence jump or that car chase!!
Nice to see a British company surviving the onslaught from the East and still making sproducts to the original design and quality.
Thank you for sharing your purchase with us. Again thank you Stuart.
It's all a matter of personal preference of course, but in my humble and unimportant opinion the Barbour International jacket is the greatest bit of motorcycling kit ever created !.. My Dad had one from being a teenager (so of course when I was a teenager I didn't want one and bought a Belstaff instead !..) He had no liner when he was a kid (not sure they made one at the time ?..) but he said it was pretty commonplace to wear a thick jumper, then fold a newspaper to size and shove that inside your Barbour to stave off the worst of the cold !.. When I was 21 my girlfriend of the time - now my wife - bought me a Barbour International for Christmas, I started to get a bit 'ungrateful' until I tried it on and realised how fantastically well designed it was, the upshot is that I've never been without one ever since and as long as Barbour keep making them I never will be !..
Hi Stuart,
Loved your Video on Barbour jackets.
I have two, a brown trials version, but more importantly, a leather one.
This is the jacket of choice when I ride my Bonneville.
I have actually owned it for over thirty years, it has had a couple of minor repairs, once when the stitching on the back failed, and once when one of the press studs broke.
I have never had any item of clothing that has attracted as much comment as this jacket, and not just from other bikers. It is identical to the waxed cotton version and cost quite a lot when I bought it new.
I used to run an autojumble years ago, and having had a particularly successful event, I decided to treat myself when I came across it. I have not seen another since. I wear it regularly, and I love it.
If they made it now, I am sure I would not be able to afford one.
Best wishes, love your work.
Ian Peterson
Not had the motorcycle specific jacket but have had a Barbour Beaufort for 40 years now. Has been regularly dragged through thorn & bramble hedges backwards during its time. Still good but will be sending it back to Barbour for a full service in the summer. Excellent jackets & great review Stu, may treat myself to the bike version very soon.
Great review Stuart! I have been using AeroStitch products for over 35 years here in the USA and they now make a waxed cotton version called the Falstaff Jacket which has a traditional look but also has vents and armor. Pricey, but worth a look. Happy New Year! Also your partner looks very smart in her new jacket!
After watching your video, I bought a black waxed Barbour International from a well known auction site for £100. Worn twice so in very good condition.
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode! I own a Barbour and it's one of the best purchases I made. I make sure it's re-waxed and it's still going strong after 7 years.
Yes, Stuart - I used to have a well-used second-hand Barbour coat & trousers over 40 years ago - they were definitely in need of rewaxing, as they were certainly not waterproof! Nice to see that you have enlisted another cast member for your filming, but to continue the theme, Willow should have been wearing a Barbour dog coat as well!
I remember when i started riding bikes legally at 16 , my Nan bought me a Belstaff trials master jacket , it was great i used to carry a plug spanner and couple of other necessary tools in the pockets , not a good idea if you fell off , i got a warmer jacket which i got from an Army & Navy stores in Liverpool in a sale for £7 . 7shillings & 6 old pennies , it was a leather flying jacket the type R A F pilots wore ,
My wife bought me a great wax cotton jacket couldnt wear it out still got it , but it no longer fits me , so i bought another one from speed wear another great jacket, even though i have other R S T etc .
Great video.
Had a Barbour waxed cotton jacket in the early 80s - it was really good, especially once it got a bit worn in and dirty. Kept me warm and dry in some horrible weather.
Uncle Stu, that brought back good memories!
First jacket was a Brando cafe racer leather style - looked bloody good too - absolutely useless outside of posing! Belstaff wax cotton copy of Barbour jacket was a revelation until I ran out of talent and destroyed the bike, jacket and almost myself!
But, rebuilt the busted bike, body and treated that leather jacket with wax and it finished me out of the clip-on rear set phase before I worked out waxed cotton and sitting up watching the world at a less frantic pace could be so enjoyable! Thanks for the nostalgia🤗
I wore a Barbour back in the early 80s, mainly for wet days but one of the few properly waterproof jackets at the time. Merlin do pretty good copies with armour/liners etc at a decent price
Agree with you 100%. I had a black Belstaff waxed jacket in the late 1970’s, and coupled with an army surplus green shoulder pad jumper underneath, was enough to keep out the cold and wet throughout the bleakest of winters. I must admit to having a Lewis Leathers quilted leather jacket as well, but that was kept for best!
Interesting video. As someone from "back in those days" my cohort tended to use whatever they could afford. Ex RAF leather flying jackets could be bought cheaply from Army and Navy stores as could the old Aqua Scootems. Never came across a Burberry in our neck of the woods though. I still have my 1952 US Army Parka from then that I actually used on a motorbike and still do. Sometimes now I use an Aussie brand (Drizabone) waxed horse riding coat (see Man from Snowy River) works well on a bike but no good in our summers. Thirty plus C heat and you need a good bit of airflow.🙂
My Dad said he couldnt afford a Barbour in the late 50s he eventually bought a belstaff black prince which was a rubberised cotton, (he still has it ) i had a barbour when i was an apprentice, which was ruined after i was knocked off my bike, and have often wondered about getting another, this video brought back memories, especially the map pocket where you could safely store an OS road map
And very smart too! The ladies and gents. Great to see Willow too. Hope y'all had a great break. 👍
I had a TT Leathers (remember them) clone in Red. As they were based, and made in the north east in the late 1960s so probably some Barbour expertise as they are based in the same area. I bought a new Barbour International on sale about 15 years ago. Great jacket even reproofed it a couple of times. Wore it a bit on the bike but the lack of modern pads made it seem less safe. However last year bought one of the padded shirts to wear under the Barbour and it is a great combination.
Love these jackets. I bought my first waxed jacket (Belstaff) trailmaster around 47 years ago. I brought it to Canada with me when I emigrated in 81 and wore it for another ten years or so. got rid when it shrunk, (I got fat).
Bought another Trailmaster about ten years ago, this one had both elbow and back D30 armour.
My wife has a (Barbour) Triumph branded wax jacket. Did not know that Belstaf copied Barbour. Never too old to learn. Great video. All the best for 2024.
My late dad had either a mac ! or his irvin army (airforce) surplus flying jacket and a beret ! I still fancy a Barbour, when I started I went to lewis leathers and still have my 1st jacket, if I breathe in I can almost zip it up still 🙂
Hi Stewart, still wearing my belstaff trialmaster since 1994, I think I've had my money's worth! Still in good condition if you look after them and wax every few years. Great video.
Not being a ton-up boy - back in the very early '60 my all-year bike was a Jawa 250 - I had a leather-look bomber jacket for around town when I was home on leave, but my regular riding kit was a heavy PVC two-piece suit from Lewis Leathers over the top of my battle-dress uniform. Combined with fur-lined flying boots, fur-lined gauntlets, jet-style helmet with Mk.8 flying goggles and a knitted woollen scarf around my neck and lower face, I may not have been able to feel fingers or toes on my 75-mile each way commute, but at least I was dry! The fact that I looked like the Michelin Man mattered not at all. 😊
Hello Stuart, great video! I'm a Historian and I do appreciate a lot this kind of content since the main target of my professional researches is the cultural (and artistic) aspect of History. Besides that I guess I'm also what people usually call "an avid motorcyclist" so everyting in this video pleases me.
Thank you!
I can't recall your video on which you share your thoughs about armor and I'd like watch it.
Could you please provide me the link of that video?
Thank you once again, all the best from Brazil. ✌
I have a cruiser from Scippis, for decades. I make my own wax , but also use an English brand: waterproof wax , GOLD LABEL. This wax doesn’t need to be melted. Just put it on and use a hairdryer or paintstripper (be careful) to warm it up and get into the fibers.
Very good result.
Make wax: beeswax in pellets, paraffine in pellets and mineral oil.
You need a pot and Bain Marie, because it can start to burn.
If you warm the water in a big pot, you put the ingredients in another metal pot, which you put in the water.
When ready, put the mixture in a silicone baking form and you end up with bars of wax.
The less oil you put in, the harder the coat will be.
Normal wear: 30% beeswax, 40 paraffine and 30% oil.
In 1966 aged 18yrs I bought the jacket and trousers for £100 and lived in the jacket as I went everywhere by bike. At weekends wore my suit underneath when going to the club. Biggest drawback when it wanted re waxing. Today aged 76yrs I generally wear Merlin textile gear.👍🏍
Great review. Just bought one and managed to get almost 50% off .... what's not to like 😊
I have two of these, both in black, one slightly larger , so I get a good fit summer or winter. Both bought within 6 months of each other, one from Barbour, one from an independent. One has cotton tartan lining in the sleeves, the other has a nylon material .
Leather motorcycle gear is lower cost these days, but a good Barbour jacket would be nice. Here in the states I just use a black military jacket. Very comfortable and looks very similar to a Barbour jacket
I have a Belstaff Trailmaster Pro. The classic design is great and I love the functionality! I really like wax jackets!
Retired last month, was going to treat myself to a clasic 350 but my wife wanted a new kitchen so to keep the peace I'll just get this jacket to give the impression I've got a motorbike
Yes, when riding long distances back in the 70’s Belstaffs or Barbour were the only thing back then that kept you anywhere near dry along with seaman’s thick white socks , plastic bags on your feet and the rear zip long leather boots. Then along came waterproof cordura material and the rubber Derry boot in the 80’s, what a difference ! I would like to buy a new Belstaff now, but the cost is ludicrous !! They have now become a fashion item, like so many things.
Here in California I got a Barbour jacket for my 15th birthday in 1970. It was fantastic for AMA District 36/37 enduros in the winter! I also wore it riding my sort of road legal Penton 175 Jackpiner to high school when it was raining. It got lost in a move in the late 70's, sigh.
In 1959 when I started was the Trailmaster the Barbour competition - boots and gloves from the Army Navy stores - plenty perfect - am still riding - Motorcycles are awesome
Good Morning Stu , this takes me back as i had both the Belstaff & Barbour , My mates wife was a supervisor at Barbour & she refurbished mine , so take care & ride safe
You seem to have lost an enormous amount of weight Stu! I hope everything is ok?
Yeah all is fine thanks! Just made some post lockdown lifestyle changes!
I must agree that wax cotton is best. Over here in Australia I have so many riding jackets, but the best by far is s my Dryrider wax cotton which is a Barbour lookalike , I wax it every couple of years and it makes it 100 percent water proof. It has a quilted inner which is removable for our hot summers. Perfect jacket for riding compared to all my others whether leather or others..
Brilliant content as usual My favorite motorcycle channel ❤
A very interesting and entertaining video Stuart. I didn't know Barbour have such a link with motorcycling.
I am keen to know your views about armour. Please post a link to your previous video on that subject.
All the best 👍
Still have the 2 belstaff jackets I have when a kid,
Still have road dirt on em as well.
I had a Barbour jacket in the late 60's and had several cafe racers. I never rode in a leather jacket until 2005 or so.
Hi Stuart,spot on ,now I wrote to Barbour and explained the were missing a trick.How could they lose sales to Belstaff without whimper.
Offer some high tech armour in key places or to keep you happy a practise made armour jacket.
I emphasised in my e mail I rode a RE 650 and really looked the business thus attired.Gues what no answer....
Similar story with the Barbour Soey fishing jacket I go salmon fishing and sgain the traditional is best. They did a short run recently and they sold out to the fashionistas instantly and now go for 500 quid second hand.
Theh need people like us directing business it is acgreat company employing lovely Yorkshire ladies but I wonder if they should address the motorcycling and fishing markets directly Cheers Dr Jeff
Nice one Stuart, my personal favourite biking jacket....
Hi Stewart, My early motorcycling days in the 60s, the Barbour international was de rigor. Mine lasted years, when after much use and a fair bit of trials competition, I bought a Belstaff jacket. Oh boy what a disappointment that was. The material was not as robust, but the clincher to get rid was the poppers were coming apart so I could not close the front or pockets. When I bought my Royal Enfield Himalayan, I bought a Barbour international Here in France and since I swapped the bike for a 350 classic it is once again a pleasure to ride in comfort, Just my experience.
I completely forgot about this Stuart, and yes, I waxed cotton jacket was my first motorcycle jacket. In fact, I had two of them one after the other had completely worn out…. Then after about 10 years of riding, I managed to afford to buy some good leathers….. a Manx leather jacket and fieldsheer leather trousers….. still have the leathers and I’m looking for a wax jacket…. Great article.
Barbour jacket, white silk scarf, black motorbike boots with long socks turned down over the top, silver helmet and flying goggles. A bike with rear sets, swept back pipes and clip ons and you have the complete cafe racer/ ton up boy!
I recently purchased one of these and have been teased mercilessly for wearing a girls jacket with gold buttons. I still like it though.
Great video Stuart…own and do ride with my wax Barbour jacket (with under armour). Although not the Barbour International (Barbour Corbridge wax rustic jacket but you do have to go up 1 size!).
Lovely to see Willow out and a debut appearance of the beautiful Mrs who you’ve been hiding all these years.
Massive thanks for this one. I wore a really good latex suit in the rain back in the 80's but it was an ugly bright blue (but high vis.) and was finished after the first couple of rips.
I've been the proud owner of a Barbour International jacket for about 20 years, but the black nylon material version. "Waterproof and breathable" it says on the inside label, and I can attest to its excellent performance!
Exactly right Stuart. I was given an old Barbour Jacket when I first started riding on mates pillions and always determined to get another when it wore out! Luckily for me I live about 15/20 miles from the Barbour factory in South Shields so popped along to have a look in the factory shop. Unknown to me I was looking at a "Seconds" rail and the lady said they were £60 each and pick the one you want! I got one and to this day I have not found any reason for it to warrant the Seconds tag?? I have the Barbour, a leather jacket and a gore tex but the Barbour is still my jacket of choice especially in warmer weather! All my mates also wore Barbour or Belstaff it looked funny on a cold night going to the local as the jackets were so stiff they stood up on their own in a bunch, like well trained dogs waiting for us!!! LOL
Hi Stewart. I got my first bike in 1965. My first jacket was second hand & leather. A similar type to Brando's in the wild one.
In 1968 ish I was part of a group of local motorcyclist's who rode to Skegness. It was a Mod's V Rocker event. Nearly all motorcyclists wore Leather Jackets in my era. The minority in Wax Cotton. I started racing bikes in 1970. I bought my first pair of race leather from Lewis on HP. Great days
Mr. Fillingham- Thanks for the information about the waxed cotton jackets vs. leather ones. I have wondered for years how you British riders deal with your weather; as I have noted shortcomings of leather in the rain. Your videos are always fun and helpful! Bob
menudos paseitos guapos se da Stuart con la moto., adentro, afuera …… Epi y Blas
Hi Stewart,Very useful episode,ordered a Barbour jacket from John Lewis,my thought being if it’s wrong size easy to return via Waitrose and reorder correct size.Very pleased with it and at £265 cheaper than Barbour.Thanks for the recommendation.
Preferred Belstaff myself and had a custom leather jacket made in Belstaff style, which I’ve had for 15 years and is still good as new.
In the film " Leather Boys " from 1964, starring Rita Tushingham and Colin Campbell, Dudley Sutton and the actor that played Mike Baldwin in Coronation Street, a few Barbour International A7 jackets can be seen.
I believe Rita herself wore one!
My memories of 50's & 60's motorcycle wear are of army surplus great coats.
Belstaff gear for me. I had a full two piece leather suit made by Lewis Leathers in 1969, £29-10 shillings made to measure, Lewis Leathers Flight Boots, as well, still got a pair somewhere. Most people had an ex-Dispatch Rider Trench Coat for winter. Ton-up boys was a feature of the Sunday Pictorial, who paid a team of Yobs to have a staged fight in Clacton.
Great Video Stu, I remember my dad had one back in the day. I at the time went the leather route but just love it and I think I will invest in one. Such a great Jacket. Thanks.
Thank you very much Stuart for this video. I had been waiting for this for a long time.
Hope you enjoyed it!
I have got a soft spot for waxed cottons motorcycle jackets and I own a late 70s Belstaff Trialmaster and an early 2000 - Made in England (check the label when you buy one as they are all made elsewhere now, that’s why I bought an old, secondhand one) - Barbour International jacket. The Belstaff is made of a much heavier cotton than the Barbour and has got a more rugged look, but both are great quality, can be repaired and rewaxed. Only downside is that they are not breathable, unlike some of the more modern waterproof fabrics used in other motorcycle jackets.
Great review Stuart, just purchased one on Vinted new with labels £150 and did what you advised and try one on. Got it to wear with our new to me Triumph Bonnivelle T120. My wife and I also got a set of Knox under armour shirt and pants to do the DGR in May. Love the videos you produce. Roll on dry days.
Was my first bike jacket in 1980! served me well for a really long time as long as you look after it.
I ordered a belstaff trailmaster royal Enfield 120 years edition from RE's website yesterday, so i guess its perfect timing for me to watch this video. Do consider making a video on the re waxing process and details. Superb video as always. Cheers
My first motorcycle jacket was my neighbor’s Korean War Army Fatigue jacket that he wore in Korea. He liked my new 1968 Honda 50, but I think his wife wouldn’t let him have a motorcycle, so he gave it to me. When winter came I convinced my friend to trade for the Wool US Navy Peacoat that his Dad had given him. That peacoat lasted me through 4 years of college on and off my 1972 Honda 350. I would like a Barbour, but they cost more than £6 here. You look sharp in yours with your flat cap.😎👍
Still have mine in 1 in brown and 1 in black they pong a bit but they ain't going anywhere.
I had a gold top leather jacket. Made in Hull,my home town i kept it for years and later my daughter discovered it, mouldy and smelly but we rubbed it with saddle soap and the lining with a bit of persil and she wore it for a fair few years complete with my triumph and matchless badges but only for fashion purposes. It was hopeless in rain and snow but typical female it was the look that mattered to me.
Agreed Stuart .
But then the whole 60s thing is viewed throught rose colour specs.
It was not all hippy free love.
My £5 a week wage didn't allow me much freedom at all.
Still use waxed cotton but amoured ( weighs a ton)
Started wearing Belstaff Trial master gear in 73 when I rode an OSSA MAR in competion.
Even old Sammy Miller swore by it.
I have the Barbour Trooper model (without belt). It's marvelous. Unfortunately Babour's representative left Argentina some years ago and these kind of jackets are not available any more. And rewaxing turned difficult because of the lack of dealers and shops.