@@TheManyVoicesVA you'll get no argument from me. Like Tex said, it's one of the few machines in the Inner Sphere that can take a hit from a Rommel or a Demolisher, survive, and then stomp it flat.
Oh I should also mention the Spider-9M. 2 MVSP lasers makes it actually incredibly dangerous and it only costs slightly more than an OG spider, due to its XL engine discount.
I've been really enjoying running Ravens and many of them fall below the 1000 BV mark. Lots of great variants with a wide variety of weapons and utility items. Also while they're a tad slow for a light, they tend to have decent mobility and survivability for what they are. I'm actually considering getting a forth Raven and running an all raven lance some time just for laughs with mixed loadouts.
Funny thing, my first exposure to Battletech was when a game called "MechWarrior 2" was bundled with the PowerMac my parents got when I was in high school. You could customize the load-outs on 'mechs, and I basically created the closest thing to the Firestarter-H possible in the game with 10 ER medium lasers and a heat sink that was one of the best 'mechs in the game, able to complete any mission that didn't need a long range weapon.
The Dasher is great omnimech for dropping Elementals on your opponents and backing up the ensuing mess caused. As someone who plays mostly in later eras I got a few under 1000BV Clan Invasion mechs for clanners and clantech enjoyers. - Howler/ Baboon is a speedy light clan battlemech that fills shin kicking missle spitting gremlin role. I enjoy the original for the 3 clan lrm 5 and endless ammo along with variant 6 (Dark Age+ though) for being 550BV. - Mist Lynx/ Koshi is a clan omni and it has many configuration that make it good at removing infantry or spotting and with 7/11/6 movement it'll get where it needs to go. Prime, A, E, H are all fine choices maybe the D if you hate VTOLs. - Piranha barely squeeks in at 998BV designed as an anti-infantry scout with 9/14 movement, it does a great job shredding back armour with it's 12 machine guns with a clan ER small laser and 2 ER Medium lasers for dealing with harder units. Variant 2 is cheaper at 874BV and swaps the MGs for ER micro lasers and the ER small and ER medium lasers for heavy versions. In double checking some info I found a Kit Fox Config V that has 2 ER small lasers and Arrow IV for 974 BV so go out and scare somebody with that.
I personally tend to lean towards improving pilot skills if I have left over points, before taking small/cheap units, though my circle of friends also tend to run tank and infantry heavy lists so that might also play into my thinking. Good video and suggestions though!
That Dasher H is pretty sweet, going 'all in' on the ultra high speed ultra short range disintegration beams. If you ever run into a player who uses nothing but these 800bv monsters, I'd remind you that LRM carriers cost just as much and thunder-augmented munitions are a thing. Minefields don't give a crap how high your 'to hit' number is. Oh, 'Speed is armor' huh? Well how much actual armor you got on those legs, hmmm? (Seriously though, very good mech picks all around. Each plays a specific role really well, and for an excellent price.)
Interesting list. I definitely agree with the Firestarter Mirage and The Davion Spider. I would have added the JVN-10F Fire Javelin on my own list. Used correctly they always seem to earn back their BV and make their presence known. Sure the Jenner is better armored and has a faster ground speed but the JVN just keeps pouring it on for nearly 200 BV less. It's one case that I'd often rather punch then kick against larger mechs.
I used to prefer te JVN-10F, but the 10N is awesome, man. Take a pair of them, load a tom of infernos each, and they have the option to practically force a shutdoen on anything that is running near the red line...
I definately prefer the armor of the F over the N, but in combined arms environments or if BV is limited the N definitely has it's place. Sometimes I field 1 of each. I usually prefer the JVN over the Firestarter because you don't have to forgo weapons fire to punch. A lucky medium laser hit to the rear torso of many common heavy mechs opens them up enough that the 3 point punch can penetrate.
Ouch it looks like pretty much every Mech I love heavier then a light class is over 1,000 BV (The Phoenix Hawk 1D used to be under 1,000 before the point values were revised in 2007)
Here is one that I can almost can guarantee you have not tried. The 3025 tech TRC-4B (the 96 pts of armor and 4x small lasers, 50-ton version of the Chameleon) that moves 6/9/6 and is there to protect your recon Wasps, Locusts, and Stingers from Spiders, Assassin's, and Jenners. BV (2.0) 999 pts. LL, 2x MLs, 4x SLs, 2x MGs. Only 10 head sinks, but if used appropriately against the mechs that can close with your striker recon mechs, it will not be a problem. And it is a universally available training mech.
Yeah interesting, I've played with it in Crescent Hawks Inception as a boy but never in real BT. I guess the reason I never tried it is that a PXH-1 seems better to me? No matter how you use it you're going to have a lot of weapons going to waste unless you shut the thing down with heat, and the armor is real low
The PXH-1 (especially the -1D variant) IS a better choice, but does not meet your 1,000 pts. BV restriction. This does. If you are allowing mods (and you would have to check if it stays under 1,000 pts.), drop 0.5 tons of MG ammo and add 8 pts of armor back onto it. Again, it's purpose is two-fold, to command a recon lance made up of 20 ton mechs AND protect them from the 7/11 or 8/12 mechs that are the only ones fast enough to run down the 6/9 Stingers and Wasps. The assumption, especially in campaign operations, being that you have Stingers, Wasps, Chameleons, and Phoenix Hawks in light lances because they are faster than the 5/8 mechs, but also still have hands so they can carry off supplies from raids on enemy depots. The Chameleon actually fills these roles really well. And provides pretty good anti infantry protection with the MGs and SLs.
And while 96 points of armor IS light it is more than the: ASN-21 (72 pts), ASN-101 (64 pts), CDA-3C (64 pts), JR7-As & -Ds (64 pts), or MON-68 (88 pts), with only the LRMs on the Assassins, LL on the Mongoose, and PPC on the Cicada being able to match or out-range the LL on the TRC-4B {and all create heat issues as the Cicada is the only one with greater than 10 [it has 11] heat sinks}. The only 7/11 move "intro tech" (i.e. 3025 tech) mechs (the 8/12 mechs will not have enough weapons to deal with the TRC-4B IMO) that have more armor than the TRC-4B are the HER-2M (120 pts, but no JJs and MLs are longest range weapons) and the JR7-F (120 pts with 5x JJs but still MLs as longest range weapons).
You should try the panther. Dont bring one. Bring two or many if possible. Focus fire, rotate out mechs as they get damaged. Stock panther is 769. Jump 3 spaces and fire the ppc to stay heat neutral, jump 4 and fire to build 1 heat. Ideally you want to run and jump until you can get into heavy woods or behind light cover. Then go stationary and fire until you get hit. Then fall back behind another panther and make them fight through that one to get the one that is already damaged. At 769 bv you can take 7 of them and upgrade 2 of those to 3/4 pilots and have 125 points left over in a 6k list. Your opponent on a 6k list is probably bringing 4 mechs. Think about that. You can basically roll up on them and fire 7 ppc shots at a single mech. If you can do that for two turns and get 4-5 hits on a single mech its probably backing off. Now in that 2 turns you probably had 2 panthers get mauled, but likely still have both ppcs functional. Fall back with them behind the other 5 and keep shooting. Your opponent has a problem. He cant rotate as well because he probably has 1 or 2 mechs that weren't meant to brawl and cant take hits for long at all. Its even worse if he has brought a fast light mech that cant take more than 1 or 2 hits before falling apart. Now you might be thinking that the panther isnt all that amazing, but look at the numbers. In this scenario you got 7 ppcs that will be firing as soon as you have even a tiny chance to hit. You will keep firing them until you lose them and you have plenty of mechs to hold the line while damaged mechs fall back. Oh and mass panthers will also get you that wonderful initiative advantage. I cant say enough about how nice it is to no move mechs in the back and watch you opponent have to move more tactically vulnerable mechs. Where this strat comes up short is melee. You do not have melee capabilities due to lacking weight. So dont melee other than attempting to kicks to get someone to fall over. Your bread and butter is mass ppc fire. At later tech you can move up to an ER large laser with targeting computer for a couple hundred more bv. Im not certain its worth it tbh but it can be an interesting numbers game. You basically go stock pilots and lose 1 mech but now you got better brackets, with better to hit numbers, but slightly lower damage.
Solid choices for pure mech games. However, the best mech for under 1000 BV, and for the roles you're talking about, is almost always a VTOL. Whether spotting, back-sniping, or providing indirect fire, these things punch WAY above their weight when utilized properly, and are a serious force multiplier. Plus, they're so fast that they usually don't have to make the PSRs that jumping mechs do. Cruising speed is enough to shoot and scoot, even if they only have level 1 terrain or woods to hide behind. Obviously, they don't work in vacuum, but then neither do a lot of cheap mechs. Not enough heat sinks to function properly. If I HAD to go with a mech, though, from outside your excellent list, it would be the OstScout. Nobody ever pays attention to that thing, so it can pretty much bounce around the battlefield at will, revealing FoW and spotting for indirect fire against enemy indirect fire units. At 497 BV for the basic POS, you can take TWO of the damn things for under 1000 BV if you wish, which just makes it even less likely that anyone will even bother shooting at one of them when they've got bigger problems to deal with. Their main weakness is that, unlike your picks, they can't really help out in a clutch if your strategy is poor or the dice do not favor you. They are purse scouts, hence why a lot of players will ignore them. Really, it would be better if they were quads, to avoid the PSR checks as much as VTOLs can, but I don't think there are any quads under 1000 BV. Right?
Out of curiosity, how do you usually balance pick-up or one-off games when not using BV? Just curious since you said that you have been playing quite a lot of BV games "lately." Thanks in advance, I enjoyed this video, great topic. :)
I've been playing for 40 years. I've never used BV or other points based methods. we would use weight class. light lance v light lance. since the smallest unit we used was company, BV or other points systems were never very useful. how do you assign and balance points on a battalion? 1 company of mechs 1 company of armor 1 company of infantry plus support 1 command lance so... 200,000 bv? completely impractical.
The Jagermech is pretty awful lol. Carries a bunch of ammo that isnt well crit padded, and has pretty crap damage. Pathetic armor for a heavy. Overall, Id rather take something a bit more expensive and actually have a decent support platform lol.
@@TheManyVoicesVA put percision ammo on it. Light mech killer or crit seeker. Killed plenty of dashers with it and, the defense is to kick as it's a head clipper, and should be on a hill anyway :)
I disagree on the JM6-S. Too thin skinned, too slow, too pillow fisted, and too prone to exploding. I can maybe see if you're playing against vehicles and want to try for movement crits, but this is where the speed is an issue. It just kinda sucks at every job.
I feel learning about Clan Mechs for your channel would certainly broaden it’s appeal. Because this list lacks Clan Mechs, especially given that those aren’t restricted to Clanners (salvage/trade/whatever), it doesn’t feel as useful to those of us that do.
Im honestly surprised at the lack of the PNT-9R here, a decently durable and decently maneuverable light with a PPC is not a bad thing to have, and putting a PPC on the board for 760ish BV is pretty good
Is the scarabus my own secret cheap mech? It's less than 1000 bv...move like a dasher ..can fire all its weapons without any heat issues...has loads of electronic counter measures and a hatchet...yeah it's not too tough but after using it and fighting against it...its a beast
It's about the closest the IS can get to a Dasher H, and I don't dislike it, but it just doesn't hit with that same nuclear-level impact. And that left arm makes the weapons pretty vulnerable. Eminently playable though
The Locust 1E. 2 Medium lasers, 2 Small Lasers, almost max armor for 20 tonner. Fast, dangerous, and I've used it both in tabletop and online to great success. An absolute STEAL at 553 BV
Only downside is the 1E moves all of the weapons out to the arms. The 1V can stay in the fight longer just because it doesn't care as much about losing the torsos.
Here is my super special cheap 'mech that does ALOT in a group formation. This 'mech is useless by itself. It will get surrounded, it does not have enough weapons. Roles: rank filler, if in 3050's the Hoplite 4d at 1022 BV will be a end game killer. In a line, the speed is often 4/6 or 5/8. The goal is to move enough and have the guns bear on the enemy "en masse". The Hoplite is designed to sit in the middle of the line and participate in the line/rank fighting. It protects the back of other more important 'mechs by virtue of being cheap, massive and in the way AND it's not worth your time shooting it. Why shoot the hoplite when you can shoot a rifleman, marauder, warhammer, Victor, etc ? And at the end of the battle, you have a functional Hoplite picking off damaged 'mechs left and right and people will despair at the sheer useless mass of internals, heatsinks, that it has. This is one of the best crap 'mech in Battletech.
i don't play by "batle value" never have. i simply go by tonnage. take the Locust, rip out the MG's and ammo and the standard Med Laser. Put in 3 Clan ER Med Lasers. Have fun.
The Charger also falls into this category for a different reason. Big and tough and pretty fast for under 1000 BV
Really out here hyping the old wrecking ball.
@@WolfHreda Hahaha I really am... I think its good sue me XD
@@TheManyVoicesVA you'll get no argument from me. Like Tex said, it's one of the few machines in the Inner Sphere that can take a hit from a Rommel or a Demolisher, survive, and then stomp it flat.
@@WolfHreda well plenty of mechs can do that. But the Charger can do that multiple times and also moves 5/8 lol
Yeah CGR is good for its BV, no question
The funny thing about the Spider is that it is one of the hardest mechs to obtain if using the original Mercenary’s Handbook, need a roll of 8+.
That table is old skool, memories of rolling dice around my middle school lunch table are flooding back to me
Oh I should also mention the Spider-9M. 2 MVSP lasers makes it actually incredibly dangerous and it only costs slightly more than an OG spider, due to its XL engine discount.
My knowledge of mechs becomes much less complete after 67, thanks dude!
@@TrailblazerBT ur welcome! I ran this thing in a tourny a while back. It is incredibly good at backstabbing.
Where is the plasma rifle/hardened armour UrbanMech , the Anubis and Dola ? But seriously nice mechs
I'm also surprised that the charger wasn't included but I like the recommendations you did have and will probably try them at some point
To be clear it's not a top 5 list, it's a list of five suggestions that people might have missed
I've been really enjoying running Ravens and many of them fall below the 1000 BV mark. Lots of great variants with a wide variety of weapons and utility items. Also while they're a tad slow for a light, they tend to have decent mobility and survivability for what they are. I'm actually considering getting a forth Raven and running an all raven lance some time just for laughs with mixed loadouts.
Funny thing, my first exposure to Battletech was when a game called "MechWarrior 2" was bundled with the PowerMac my parents got when I was in high school. You could customize the load-outs on 'mechs, and I basically created the closest thing to the Firestarter-H possible in the game with 10 ER medium lasers and a heat sink that was one of the best 'mechs in the game, able to complete any mission that didn't need a long range weapon.
Hm 10 ER meds or 10 ER smalls?
Alright, its 2am and i'm ready to make some cheap lists!
All of the mongoose variants are pretty much under 1k points. Worth looking into.
Yeah the goose rules
The Dasher is great omnimech for dropping Elementals on your opponents and backing up the ensuing mess caused. As someone who plays mostly in later eras I got a few under 1000BV Clan Invasion mechs for clanners and clantech enjoyers.
- Howler/ Baboon is a speedy light clan battlemech that fills shin kicking missle spitting gremlin role. I enjoy the original for the 3 clan lrm 5 and endless ammo along with variant 6 (Dark Age+ though) for being 550BV.
- Mist Lynx/ Koshi is a clan omni and it has many configuration that make it good at removing infantry or spotting and with 7/11/6 movement it'll get where it needs to go. Prime, A, E, H are all fine choices maybe the D if you hate VTOLs.
- Piranha barely squeeks in at 998BV designed as an anti-infantry scout with 9/14 movement, it does a great job shredding back armour with it's 12 machine guns with a clan ER small laser and 2 ER Medium lasers for dealing with harder units. Variant 2 is cheaper at 874BV and swaps the MGs for ER micro lasers and the ER small and ER medium lasers for heavy versions.
In double checking some info I found a Kit Fox Config V that has 2 ER small lasers and Arrow IV for 974 BV so go out and scare somebody with that.
Good recs! Yes, I didn't even mention the Dasher's utility as a BA transport
I personally tend to lean towards improving pilot skills if I have left over points, before taking small/cheap units, though my circle of friends also tend to run tank and infantry heavy lists so that might also play into my thinking.
Good video and suggestions though!
LOL @ Vincent from the Black Hole. That takes me back. Love these videos, BTW.
An interesting mix. You're all over the timeline. I would have put a couple of LOcusts in here, and the Cicada 3C. Maybe the Wasp 7MAF
That Dasher H is pretty sweet, going 'all in' on the ultra high speed ultra short range disintegration beams.
If you ever run into a player who uses nothing but these 800bv monsters, I'd remind you that LRM carriers cost just as much and thunder-augmented munitions are a thing. Minefields don't give a crap how high your 'to hit' number is.
Oh, 'Speed is armor' huh? Well how much actual armor you got on those legs, hmmm?
(Seriously though, very good mech picks all around. Each plays a specific role really well, and for an excellent price.)
Interesting list.
I definitely agree with the Firestarter Mirage and The Davion Spider.
I would have added the JVN-10F Fire Javelin on my own list.
Used correctly they always seem to earn back their BV and make their presence known.
Sure the Jenner is better armored and has a faster ground speed
but the JVN just keeps pouring it on for nearly 200 BV less.
It's one case that I'd often rather punch then kick against larger mechs.
FIre Javelin is great, I like the mirage a little better and they're very similar so that's why I left it off
I used to prefer te JVN-10F, but the 10N is awesome, man. Take a pair of them, load a tom of infernos each, and they have the option to practically force a shutdoen on anything that is running near the red line...
@@jakubfabisiak9810 I like the armor on the F though
@@TrailblazerBT it's nice, though very similar to JR7-F. JVN-10N is unique as an inferno machine with speed.
I definately prefer the armor of the F over the N, but in combined arms environments
or if BV is limited the N definitely has it's place. Sometimes I field 1 of each.
I usually prefer the JVN over the Firestarter because you don't have to forgo
weapons fire to punch. A lucky medium laser hit to the rear torso of many
common heavy mechs opens them up enough that the 3 point punch can penetrate.
Ouch it looks like pretty much every Mech I love heavier then a light class is over 1,000 BV (The Phoenix Hawk 1D used to be under 1,000 before the point values were revised in 2007)
Here is one that I can almost can guarantee you have not tried. The 3025 tech TRC-4B (the 96 pts of armor and 4x small lasers, 50-ton version of the Chameleon) that moves 6/9/6 and is there to protect your recon Wasps, Locusts, and Stingers from Spiders, Assassin's, and Jenners. BV (2.0) 999 pts. LL, 2x MLs, 4x SLs, 2x MGs. Only 10 head sinks, but if used appropriately against the mechs that can close with your striker recon mechs, it will not be a problem. And it is a universally available training mech.
Yeah interesting, I've played with it in Crescent Hawks Inception as a boy but never in real BT. I guess the reason I never tried it is that a PXH-1 seems better to me? No matter how you use it you're going to have a lot of weapons going to waste unless you shut the thing down with heat, and the armor is real low
The PXH-1 (especially the -1D variant) IS a better choice, but does not meet your 1,000 pts. BV restriction. This does. If you are allowing mods (and you would have to check if it stays under 1,000 pts.), drop 0.5 tons of MG ammo and add 8 pts of armor back onto it. Again, it's purpose is two-fold, to command a recon lance made up of 20 ton mechs AND protect them from the 7/11 or 8/12 mechs that are the only ones fast enough to run down the 6/9 Stingers and Wasps. The assumption, especially in campaign operations, being that you have Stingers, Wasps, Chameleons, and Phoenix Hawks in light lances because they are faster than the 5/8 mechs, but also still have hands so they can carry off supplies from raids on enemy depots. The Chameleon actually fills these roles really well. And provides pretty good anti infantry protection with the MGs and SLs.
And while 96 points of armor IS light it is more than the: ASN-21 (72 pts), ASN-101 (64 pts), CDA-3C (64 pts), JR7-As & -Ds (64 pts), or MON-68 (88 pts), with only the LRMs on the Assassins, LL on the Mongoose, and PPC on the Cicada being able to match or out-range the LL on the TRC-4B {and all create heat issues as the Cicada is the only one with greater than 10 [it has 11] heat sinks}.
The only 7/11 move "intro tech" (i.e. 3025 tech) mechs (the 8/12 mechs will not have enough weapons to deal with the TRC-4B IMO) that have more armor than the TRC-4B are the HER-2M (120 pts, but no JJs and MLs are longest range weapons) and the JR7-F (120 pts with 5x JJs but still MLs as longest range weapons).
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You should try the panther. Dont bring one. Bring two or many if possible. Focus fire, rotate out mechs as they get damaged. Stock panther is 769. Jump 3 spaces and fire the ppc to stay heat neutral, jump 4 and fire to build 1 heat. Ideally you want to run and jump until you can get into heavy woods or behind light cover. Then go stationary and fire until you get hit. Then fall back behind another panther and make them fight through that one to get the one that is already damaged.
At 769 bv you can take 7 of them and upgrade 2 of those to 3/4 pilots and have 125 points left over in a 6k list. Your opponent on a 6k list is probably bringing 4 mechs. Think about that. You can basically roll up on them and fire 7 ppc shots at a single mech. If you can do that for two turns and get 4-5 hits on a single mech its probably backing off. Now in that 2 turns you probably had 2 panthers get mauled, but likely still have both ppcs functional. Fall back with them behind the other 5 and keep shooting. Your opponent has a problem. He cant rotate as well because he probably has 1 or 2 mechs that weren't meant to brawl and cant take hits for long at all. Its even worse if he has brought a fast light mech that cant take more than 1 or 2 hits before falling apart.
Now you might be thinking that the panther isnt all that amazing, but look at the numbers. In this scenario you got 7 ppcs that will be firing as soon as you have even a tiny chance to hit. You will keep firing them until you lose them and you have plenty of mechs to hold the line while damaged mechs fall back. Oh and mass panthers will also get you that wonderful initiative advantage. I cant say enough about how nice it is to no move mechs in the back and watch you opponent have to move more tactically vulnerable mechs.
Where this strat comes up short is melee. You do not have melee capabilities due to lacking weight. So dont melee other than attempting to kicks to get someone to fall over. Your bread and butter is mass ppc fire.
At later tech you can move up to an ER large laser with targeting computer for a couple hundred more bv. Im not certain its worth it tbh but it can be an interesting numbers game. You basically go stock pilots and lose 1 mech but now you got better brackets, with better to hit numbers, but slightly lower damage.
@@goodbodha Cool strat!
Solid choices for pure mech games. However, the best mech for under 1000 BV, and for the roles you're talking about, is almost always a VTOL. Whether spotting, back-sniping, or providing indirect fire, these things punch WAY above their weight when utilized properly, and are a serious force multiplier. Plus, they're so fast that they usually don't have to make the PSRs that jumping mechs do. Cruising speed is enough to shoot and scoot, even if they only have level 1 terrain or woods to hide behind. Obviously, they don't work in vacuum, but then neither do a lot of cheap mechs. Not enough heat sinks to function properly.
If I HAD to go with a mech, though, from outside your excellent list, it would be the OstScout. Nobody ever pays attention to that thing, so it can pretty much bounce around the battlefield at will, revealing FoW and spotting for indirect fire against enemy indirect fire units. At 497 BV for the basic POS, you can take TWO of the damn things for under 1000 BV if you wish, which just makes it even less likely that anyone will even bother shooting at one of them when they've got bigger problems to deal with. Their main weakness is that, unlike your picks, they can't really help out in a clutch if your strategy is poor or the dice do not favor you. They are purse scouts, hence why a lot of players will ignore them. Really, it would be better if they were quads, to avoid the PSR checks as much as VTOLs can, but I don't think there are any quads under 1000 BV. Right?
Agree with absolutely everything you say here
I hate the new Dasher. its arms no longer look like an impediment to VTOL traffic.
Out of curiosity, how do you usually balance pick-up or one-off games when not using BV? Just curious since you said that you have been playing quite a lot of BV games "lately." Thanks in advance, I enjoyed this video, great topic. :)
I've been playing for 40 years. I've never used BV or other points based methods. we would use weight class.
light lance v light lance.
since the smallest unit we used was company, BV or other points systems were never very useful.
how do you assign and balance points on a battalion?
1 company of mechs
1 company of armor
1 company of infantry plus support
1 command lance
so... 200,000 bv?
completely impractical.
Probably a disappointing answer but I wasn't playing pickup games for a long time. Just constructed scenarios and campaign games
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Jagermexh 6s! Also good video
The Jagermech is pretty awful lol. Carries a bunch of ammo that isnt well crit padded, and has pretty crap damage. Pathetic armor for a heavy. Overall, Id rather take something a bit more expensive and actually have a decent support platform lol.
I like well protected mechs but I can see the argument for the JM
@@TheManyVoicesVAthe jager I always ask myself “can I make this interesting as a chassis?” Typically that involves 2x AC/10’s or LB-10X’s.
@@TheManyVoicesVA put percision ammo on it. Light mech killer or crit seeker. Killed plenty of dashers with it and, the defense is to kick as it's a head clipper, and should be on a hill anyway :)
I disagree on the JM6-S. Too thin skinned, too slow, too pillow fisted, and too prone to exploding. I can maybe see if you're playing against vehicles and want to try for movement crits, but this is where the speed is an issue. It just kinda sucks at every job.
Urbanmech with arrow 4 under 700bv
Broken!
I feel learning about Clan Mechs for your channel would certainly broaden it’s appeal. Because this list lacks Clan Mechs, especially given that those aren’t restricted to Clanners (salvage/trade/whatever), it doesn’t feel as useful to those of us that do.
@@Ruinis_Gaming Yes I'm focusing more on Clans, if you check my other vids I've just started a series rating the 3050 omnis
Im honestly surprised at the lack of the PNT-9R here, a decently durable and decently maneuverable light with a PPC is not a bad thing to have, and putting a PPC on the board for 760ish BV is pretty good
Is the scarabus my own secret cheap mech? It's less than 1000 bv...move like a dasher
..can fire all its weapons without any heat issues...has loads of electronic counter measures and a hatchet...yeah it's not too tough but after using it and fighting against it...its a beast
It's about the closest the IS can get to a Dasher H, and I don't dislike it, but it just doesn't hit with that same nuclear-level impact. And that left arm makes the weapons pretty vulnerable. Eminently playable though
don't you hate it when a mech is like 'smell my armpits' and then instead it hits you with 48 damage from point blank range 😤
Yes I hate it
The Locust 1E. 2 Medium lasers, 2 Small Lasers, almost max armor for 20 tonner. Fast, dangerous, and I've used it both in tabletop and online to great success.
An absolute STEAL at 553 BV
@@mikegould6590 Great mech for the pre-large pulse eras, still quite playable even after that
@@TrailblazerBT Its made a huge impact at our table even when Clan forces are fielded.
Only downside is the 1E moves all of the weapons out to the arms. The 1V can stay in the fight longer just because it doesn't care as much about losing the torsos.
Introtech?
The tech from the intro box set, or the 3025 era. No Star League, no Clan, no Primitives.
Here is my super special cheap 'mech that does ALOT in a group formation.
This 'mech is useless by itself. It will get surrounded, it does not have enough weapons.
Roles: rank filler, if in 3050's the Hoplite 4d at 1022 BV will be a end game killer.
In a line, the speed is often 4/6 or 5/8. The goal is to move enough and have the guns bear on the enemy "en masse". The Hoplite is designed to sit in the middle of the line and participate in the line/rank fighting. It protects the back of other more important 'mechs by virtue of being cheap, massive and in the way AND it's not worth your time shooting it.
Why shoot the hoplite when you can shoot a rifleman, marauder, warhammer, Victor, etc ?
And at the end of the battle, you have a functional Hoplite picking off damaged 'mechs left and right and people will despair at the sheer useless mass of internals, heatsinks, that it has.
This is one of the best crap 'mech in Battletech.
i don't play by "batle value" never have. i simply go by tonnage. take the Locust, rip out the MG's and ammo and the standard Med Laser. Put in 3 Clan ER Med Lasers. Have fun.