Muc Off Faces Backlash Over ‘Disgusting' Advert & THAT £340 GCN Kit - The Wild Ones Podcast Ep.33
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We chat GCN’s latest pricey kit drop, the latest handlebar offering from ENVE, aerodynamics and the Muc Off advert that got the internet talking this week. Here’s the full rundown:
00:00 Our honest opinion on GCN’s premium kit
06:01 ENVE’s £1300 handlebar
12:34 What’s with these new Poc and Kask road helmets?
18:39 People are kicking off over this Muc Off advert…
36:34 Overrated/Underrated: Girona
41:17 Overrated/Underrated: direct to consumer brands
49:20 Overrated/Underrated: ‘proper’ coffee
52:39 Overrated/Underrated: suits/formal wear
54:32 Francis is the problem… (FUOTW)
55:08 Installing silca sealant with tough tubeless tyres
57:18 Nic ran a marathon in flip flops!?
01:00:20 Clip-on bars or TT bike + Ironman tips
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As a man who's initial impressions were "why be offended over this" over the Muc Off ad, Producer Emily's explanation linking it to womens discomfort in male dominated spaces is really interesting and eye opening - something that I think is very valuable for men in all areas of life (not just cycling) to understand. Very well put.
Yes, this. I was going to come here and say that Emily’s comment should be shared in various forums that have nothing to do with cycling. She describes the phenomenon perfectly. This comment coming from a youth worker, where inclusion and non-toxic communication is crucial. Well done Emily, huge props.
Her speech was quite powerful.
I thought the same. Thanks Emily for laying it out so clearly.
Very agreeable 😅
Absolutely. Impeccably explained and with added link between seemingly unrelated issues... I wish I could high five her IRL. Awesome woman.
Thank you, Producer Emily, for speaking about your experience as a woman in the world and in cycling spaces. Hyper-sexualizing situations may seem harmless enough here and there but it all adds up and before you know it, you're going through a nontrivial amount of your day on guard and nervous. And if it's not just some random person on the corner doing it, but a global brand, that effect is magnified.
Emily's breakdown of how perpetuating outdated, creepy content affects those who are vulnerable to the worst of the male experience is honest, erudite, judgement free. Wonderful and important perspective Emily, thanks!
Came for the GCN bashing, heard an inspiring disussion about women in cycling instead. This is a great channel!
I really appreciate Emily sharing her experience !
Emily, you did an amazing job there. Great explanation of why life for women can just be tougher.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Try being an attractive black man like myself now that is tough, I go to the supermarket or a restaurant and have almost every woman eyeing me off settle down ladies Garry is happily married.
@@tonyg3091 grow up
As an old fart in his 50's, I think the very lucid explanation of why Muc Off's ad is not a good thing (incredibly relevant input from Emily) was spot on. She Clearly set out why this perpetuates or at least contributes to a culture where women can feel unsafe. That's why it isn't enough to say 'it's a joke'. Men need to wake up. As decent blokes, we shouldn't want women to ever have to feel the way she describes (so eloquently).
‘It’s lazy, it’s weak, its vulgar, be more intelligent” 100%, well said.
All that ad did for me is want to put my money into the hands of mature brands, like Silca.
Genuinely incredible monologue by Emily on why women don’t feel safe and while she says she doesn’t speak for all women, it’s sad to think she likely speaks for the majority!
As the father of a young, active daughter, it both scares and angers me in equal measure what kind of world she will be growing up in.
The response from the majority of well meaning men of *shrugs ‘we’re not all like that’ isn’t good enough and unless we actively get on board to call out and eliminate the sort of behaviour that Emily sadly experienced in Richmond Park, our mothers, sisters, daughters and granddaughters are destined to experience the same.
Anyway, just my tuppence ha’penny worth but well said that woman. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hi Peter, greatly enjoy your channel and this comment of yours!
@@redkeyspoke Thanks Nathan, I really appreciate that.
I have run lots with my daughter over the years, mainly on the hills and quiet back lanes that lead from our house to the off-road. She then moved to our nearest city - Chester - and going running with her there, on roads, I was genuinely absolutely shocked by the amount of cars slowing down and leery comments (presumably before the shouter realised that the person running in front of my daughter was a bloke) And then she tells me that it is just absolutely routine
Well said sir! Change will only occur when we all acknowledge the need for it to do so!
25 % of women experience sexual assault or attempted sexual assault in their lifetime (UK statistic). 97 % of women in the UK experience sexual harassment in their life. The numbers in other western countries like Germany, USA, etc. aren't really better.
The problem is that a good amount of guys only start reflecting their douchy behavior until they have a daughter ... because they know how men treat women from themselves.
I personally don't think I've sexually harassed anyone, but I've definitely been unaware about women's issues until I started dating my first girlfriend (now wife). I've never felt unsafe walking through the city at night. But that's not the experience my wife always had.
So I think it's also our responsibility to call out creepy and douchy behavior of other men.
I wasn’t even the entire way through listening to Emily and I knew I needed to comment. What a wonderfully intelligent and coherent presentation of the issues facing women in typically masculine settings. A joy to listen to!
I'm really glad Emily could share her story and opinion on the Muc-Off ad.
Emily is spot on, about the Muc-off thing, it marks the space as unwelcoming to a number of people. I might not be a woman, but I'm queer, and I know all too well that in the sort of space where that kind of jokes are made, homophobic ones closely follow...
As a man I appricated the speech given by producer Emily and no one interrupting her, wish this sort of stuff would be talked about more widely to be able to bring in more diverse group of riders.
Yes, I agree. By filming the guys paying attention to what Emily was saying was good editing 👍. No doubt that was due to Producer Emily’s skill and wisdom in demonstrating what all men should be doing in this space - pay attention to what women are saying and feeling, call out bad behaviour in men and respect all women.
Nick is making the assumption that your local bike shop is good. Before I did my own bike builds I once paid my LBS to build up a frame I got as a crash replacement. They never bled the brakes properly, I took it back a few months later when I completely lost the front brake, they kicked off when i queried why I needed to pay for their corrective work.
Last summer I was with my 13 yrs old son on a cycling path and a woman came to us asking if we could pretend we're with her, I looked over my shoulder and I saw that creepy bearded dude in jeans following us, she said he was right behind her for like half an hour, I told my son to go on with her and turned around, the friggin maggot turned back and flew the f away...
Fkin creeps
Nick is a brilliant addition to this podcast. So knowledgeable being someone properly intertwined in the cycling customer.
Thank you Emily.
Emily's monologue was very thoughtful and articulate. Also, best round of overrated / underrated in a while!
i genuinely appreciated Emily's thoughtful explanation and contextualization of the muc off situation. well done!
£340 to become a huge advertisement hoarding for SHIFT Media, not for me
THIS!
I am male, 194cm/85kg (6″4/13st5), three-day beard, broad shoulders for a cyclist (44cm handlebars). From time to time, when a car approaches from behind, it honks wildly, and the male passengers open the windows, shout at me and drive on. The first time this happened, I was scared and stopped to check my bike, thinking it was a warning that something was wrong with it! But the bike was fine! I couldn't explain what that meant.
When I spoke to my daughter about it once, she said: 'You're wearing a man's bun, and a ponytail on the bike because of the helmet. If you make yourself so small on the bike with your shoulders tucked in and they can see the ponytail, they think you're a woman. It's called "cat calling". It happens to me all the time, and sometimes it makes me uncomfortable when a man walks behind me on the sidewalk, even if he's not doing anything like that.' My daughter was 14 at that time.
Pro Mechanic Nick is a man of reason is definitely what I’m here for. 🤣🤣
Nick is a great addition to this podcast. Please more 😀
So much respect for the space you all have created and the way she gave an explanation to how women feel in certain situations and their experiences. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 thank you for the awareness you have created and I love the content you guys bring every time. Mad respect 🫡 ❤
You guys are all fab. You clearly love cycling and care about others. You're careful not to abuse your viewers trust and inform/entertain for free to a high level. Not sure how anyone could take that badly to be honest.
Emily, extremely well said, I think the channel would benefit from including you more. To move towards equality in life we need more of these voices and these discussions.
I work in the bike industry here in the UK and eagerly await your pod cast every week - never fails to impress me with the content and common sense , interesting and relevant content - you nail it week in week out 👊👊👊👊
I bought a Canyon full sus and I had another popular brand road bike. I went to service my mtb where I bought my road bike. The owner said that they will service it but last time. I said ok and took my bikes to other bike service. Now I have two canyon bikes and a new friend in that other bike shop. Good luck.
I don't understand this point of view. Basically if you are not living in capital city of your country, there will always be a brand, that is nor offered by your local bike shop. So they refused to make money on the service, cause you've didn't bought the bike from them? Idiots...
Place where I'm servicing my two Canyons Lux CFR and Ultimate CFR is my local Cannondale shop(plus few smaller brands). I'm riding bikes for around 20 years, and I've never owned a Cannondale, and they where dealing with my S-Works, Giants, Scotts, and even Santa Cruz.
As a bike Shop owner, I would be happy if more people need my help. As a customer, I wouldn’t go to a shop with such an elitist mindset. If I’m willing to pay the price , but you don’t want to repair it, I’ll go to another shop with nice people.
Same. However (we’re an all female shop) we still experience inappropriate words and behavior.
Thank you for your excellent discourse Emily! While I started the podcast for F and J, I am so happy that you’re contributing more and more. It’s always valuable.I love the podcast. Cycling needs to be welcoming and safe for everyone.
21:50 Emily is SPOT ON!!
Well done Emily, your explanation of the issue which is much much wider than muc off or indeed cycling was brilliant. Cycling has an issue which it would be interesting to explore on your podcast. I think the discussion about how good the product is was largely irrelevant as jimmy and nick said for another product, poc was it? buy or don’t buy. The problem with women not feeling safe is something all us men should be more concerned about
Well said Emily
👏🏽 Father of a daughter here. Well said Emily!!! Also it's so refreshing that she was able to have her say without interruptions.
I'm not really on board with the idea that if you don't buy your bike from the local bike shop you can't expect to take it there to fix things.
I bought one of my bikes 15 years ago and the other one second hand. When I go to the bike shop i pay for repairs and parts. I don't buy my car from the local mechanic either.
Especially if your local bike shop doesn't stock the brand you want.
@@DS-um9hibut if you then buy a bike at a shop that does stock that brand, why not use them for servicing it as well? They will carry the brand specific spares or are able to order parts and handle warranty issues. The local bike shop will not.
@@virtualmartijn plenty of reasons, distance to travel, the fact I know my LBS mechanics, the fact I would rather support local where I can... They are more than happy to supply me with spares and on the odd occasion I can't (be bothered) to carry out my own repairs to complete them as well.
Also my LBS is more than just a shop, its a great meet up point that does decent coffee and the staff often organise rides. Of course everyone has different experiences.
My LBS only stocks major cycling brands = entry level alu bike £1300. No thanks.
I'm all for it. Give your money to mobile or independent bike mechanics that will probably charge less, give a better service, and appreciate the money going to them instead of paying for people that are so a-moralistic they don't want your money.
Thank you Emily, you’re helping to educate us all. Great work
Best cycling podcast especially when Nic is on wouldn't miss it keep the videos coming .
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Agu 5 years ago was one of the cheapest cycling clothing brands, I have a few pieces I purchased online from a German shop. One of the reasons is Brexit and overall cost, and the second is that ALL brands tend to start at lower-end prices, and gradually go to the very expensive level. Rapha is crazy expensive, with a very generic cut and quality, nothing "technical", I use X-bionic as proven top high-tech, (they got other 200 awards), and the best value for money but it is not the mainstream for "professionals" they simply don't sponsor or promote their products.
the "normal" agu stuff ist still quit good and reasonable priced.
Great listen, will try some more episodes 😊❤
Interestingly GCN have made a few videos recently about how expensive bikes have become and that they are planning on testing more ‘affordable’ bikes then they release frankly ridiculously priced kit!
I agree that it seems expensive but so what? It doesn’t make GCN hypocrites.
As someone whose tinnitus gets worse with age, I've been very conscious lately about how loud wind noise can be. I admit being a little curious about these newer aerodynamic helmets that partially cover the ear because I wonder if they can help with that.
You could find it makes it worse. In the motorbike world helmet caused wind noise is a big problem, and the reason most motorbike riders wear earplugs.
@@stewieDM agree so much. I already had tinnitus from being dumb as a kid but riding my Aprilia without earplugs is so uncomfortable.
I used to have "cat ears" for cycling. They make you look like you stole Elvis' sideburns but they cut a lot of wind noise out.
Another great podcast. The three of you are a great group.
Had not seen the Muc-off ad until featured here. I found it amusing at first but quickly felt a bit over done in a gross way. Wouldn’t have given it much thought but Emily’s explanation of the way it brought up the creepy encounters with men cyclists made me reconsider. Imagine being a woman washing her bike and some dude walks up and makes a preference to Muc-off. Would not want ti risk that.
Are we seriously relating gross ads to bad behaviour? A gay male could take some of this ad being directed at him. Some of it is about self gratification. It's not directed specifically at females. It's gross on linking sexual stuff to cleaning a bike. It's that simple.
Huge stretch to suggest it enables or encourages bad behaviour.
The revelation with the Muck Off ad is the immaturity of their all-male marketing staff.
Right you think it's immature and that's fine but how is it sexist?
All I saw were disembodied gloves that looked somewhat mannish, does the extended ad have some sexy lady in a muc off bikini staring at the camera like Paris in a Carls Jr ad?
@@SpicyTrifongo I didn't say it was sexist. I said it was all-male, agreeing with Emily. This sort of innuendo is typical of immature men. I don't see it with women.
@@Ron_Boy watch last week's Saturday Night Live or a couple stand up comedy specials from women comics.
Men do not have a monopoly on making sexualized jokes.
Lisa Lampanelli made a whole career out of it.
Boo. Hoo.
As someone who is to some degree ‘woke’ I find explanations from producer Emily, as a woman in a predominantly male industry, mega important. It’s too often men arguing why stuff like this is JuSt A JoOoKeE! Without taking time to think about it or asking people with a different view why it’s insensitive.
Massive respect for tackling this subject head-on 🤘
you got big "I don't like when gay people kiss in movies" energy but from the opposite direction.
@@SpicyTrifongo lol what?!
@@jtmuso you didnt like the ad. That's OK.
But how is it OK to go and accuse muc off of being sexist or create a hostile environment for women?,
@@SpicyTrifongo the ad comes across as crass to me. On top of that they’re promoting a product to solve a problem which doesn’t exist.
People can form their own opinions and some of those are that the ad is sexist. This is freedom of speech and expression. Muc-off have the right to make an ad and people have the right to form an opinion. I think it’s crass and has the air of being made by teenage boys, as well as promoting a product which is not necessary.
i love watching your shows , always fun and down to earth . Almost all the new bikes i have i have bought from the same shop except for one to help a friend get his leg up in the business at a shop he was working at , all the rest is same shop and the why is the after market service !!!!! they have always given me great deals and even when the bikes warranty has expired in many cases have done the work or given me a great deal , my other bikes i have picked up other time they service like their own. I have had some bad experiences with other stores and simply not delt with them again. support your local shops !!!!
They are the ones that support your local kids teams and up and coming riders.
Great shows keep them coming
I just want to say that you guys are amazing:) This podcast and the entire Cade Media channel is one of my most favoured channels on TH-cam. I truly appreciate you guys, keep up the good work! :)
Well shit Emily, ain’t that the truth of so many women’s experiences. Thanks for putting that out there in such a coherent and sensible way.
More women in all spaces with those spaces feeling safer.
Well said Emily!
Great video. Thanks for sharing Emily.
A good coffee is never overrated but it depends on what you define as a good coffee. I tried a lot of small roasters and they all can`t keep up with the Italian roasters that I prefer, but they are much more pricier (sometimes more than double). We use to buy things for a higher price when we think it must be special. By the way it is sometimes the same thing with so called boutique bikes.
Fantastic explanation Emily!
Well said Emily.
Well done Emily, you demonstrated great courage in sharing your story, even though this is obviously something has a lingering affect.
Great stuff!! Keep it up 🎉
Appreciate Emily’s comments on Muc Off and anything else she contributes. Even though my interest in all things cycling has waned recently, your conversations are always worth watching. Keep up the great work!
outstanding content! thanks
Quick personal story about the direct to consumer brand.
Last year, I wanted to upgrade my bike. With a few years of experience with previous bikes, I new that I was looking for something specific: shorter reach than most race road bikes (back issues), shorter crank length (knee issues), with a bike that could hold a big cassette for my big mountainous rides. So I made a big Google Sheets table to try to calculate bike geometries and check which could potentially fit.
I went to the 5 big bike shops in my city. Only one could have a proper discussion about bike geometry (my favourite bike shop!), but unfortunately didn't sell something that fitted me. One (the Giant shop) even complained that I did a pre-bike fit to have more precise geometry requirements for my bike. None of them would let me try the bikes for a few kilometres to check the feeling I had on them.
I think that bike shops need to understand that they have to become wise and sound adviser for potential buyers and not just Sales people casually selling bike stuff.
On the other hand, I'm always mad at people that I see buying bikes after falling into marketing traps, or getting advices from bike shops just to make their minds about an online purchase. And at those who want to see bike shops doing things for free all the time. Servicing a bike costs time, and a lot of money. But the market prices are so high and the hype so huge about many tech gimmicks that unfortunately entry bike cost is one of the biggest factor for purchase decisions.
On my side, I found a shop in another city that sold a bike assembled in my hometown and they were able to send it to me. I then changed and assembled all the remaining custom parts I wanted thanks with my local bike shop. I think that's the best of both world.
Jimmy, I would say this to in person as well. You're awesome! Thanks guys for the podcast
When this talk came out ive been at alicante, Spain and it was pretty nice to ride arround :)
5 years ago, GCN was the first place I checked for bike related content. But, IMO, they are no longer relatable for at least half of their content. It’s too bad really, but that makes room for more meaningful content, like yours! Keep up the good work. Maybe if we stop talking them, they will get the hint.
Thank you Emily, this episode is a must watch for your monologue, I'll be sharing it far and wide.
luved it great fun as ever, Many thanks
Well said Emily, this is fantastic. 20:00 Everything you say here IS IMPORTANT. I wish i had the space to share some stories but i believe we can all do better to create a more wholesome cycling landscape.
As a 63 yrs old cancer patient who now has some complications due to radiotherapy damage,I started cycling a while back.a short while back,I've now had to stop due to an impending operation but my point is, even though I'm was a very new pss poor cyclist who has retired !!,(from cycling) bar Zwift in the future,I love this channel, Very well done guys and gals keep it coming.
Stage 4 Cancer club member here too. I’m with you mate .
Maybe I've missed this in the past, but I'd love a segment on everyone's favorite cost-effective kit brands or even specific items.
Absolutely on point, Emily. 👏 24:42
Hey Chris and Jessie, love the show. With regards to Jeffs video about narrow bars. You didn't mention the second half of the video. The aero wasn't the point but the tucked in position allowed Jeff to attack/sprint more easily. I personally ride 38cm bars but that was always from a confort stand point.
Emily’s insights regarding the muc-off ad alone is the reason why I really like this channel. You guys outperform pretty much any other bike related channel, in particular GCN (which I actually unfollowed some time ago). Chapeau
Will we ever have a wild ones without a GCN discussion in the future xD
very nice content thank you
I guess you won't read this Jimmy but I really enjoy what you bring to the podcast. Don't bother about the trolls.
Hearing Emily's talk about wider issues regarding the Muc-Off advert is extremely insightful. Thank you so much for talking about this, it's hugely appreciated
Love the podcast! Best wishes to the Cade family.
Brilliant insight from Emily! 🔥
Speaking about those Challenge Tires, Those things were a battle to install. I just took mine off a week ago, after about 4 or 5 months because I just wanted to install a wider tire to get a feel for how I would like wider tires. I couldn't get the Challenge tires off so I cut them off ruining the tires. It's a good thing I never had a puncture while riding because I would have been stuck. I got blisters on both thumbs during my attempts. I will never buy those tires again.
I hate Nic's opinion on DTC brands. There are PLENTY of car mechanics that don't sell cars. Plenty of washing machine repair people that don't sell the product new. Bike shops trying to gate keep selling new bikes is petty and is simply giving bad service in the long run. And he says it himself, Canyon bikes have plenty of issues... they are ripe for selling maintenance then no? It just doesn't hold water IMO...
About women feeling threatened all the time: I heard a female comedian say something along the lines of "Imagine walking around people that are physically stronger and bigger than you are and imagine they might be attracted to you. Could you stop them if they really wanted to do something? No."
👏👏👏 amazing podcast covering all areas of our favourite interests
More of Emily please! I started out thinking, “what’s the big deal?” Then Emily shared her very simple experience that I am sure is not at all uncommon, and I thought, yeah, she is completely right! Her perspective is so important, and she isn’t just a producer on your show to interject from time to time. Cheers’
Great show, keep it up guys. I find the content is superb and I had had no idea Nick was such a badass, Ironman with flip flops, Ooft!
Glad it's not just me that thought Strada Bianca tyres are the hardest to get on. Good thing that they last for ages and are easy to plug. Wouldn't want to be wrestling with them by the side of a trail in the rain. And yes, I used them with Silca sealant 😏
They are such a nightmare. They answered my email on the show, I now feel slightly embarrassed at how happy I was when I heard my name... add in the Silca sealant and wow. Nearly broke me. I did it though. 4 of em...💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Well said Emily 👏👏👏
Brilliant episode. Great combination of presenters. Nick is brilliant.
I wouldn't say it in person but I love all 3 of you ❤ Great podcast - thanks.
Great, intelligent show! As a female cyclist, i really appreciated Emily’s explanation. I also think that people don’t “overreact”, but they (women, minorities,etc) are just fed up from dealing with b.s. for so many decades, and the rest of the public, who haven’t been putting up with stuff for years don’t understand, but the rest of us are just “OMG, it just won’t stop - and we’re deep into the 21st century”. Again, thanks for the continued intelligent, balanced and interesting content.
in your words, how did the muc off ad have anything to do with women?
@@SpicyTrifongo- good point - it objectifies gay men as well as women. Thanks for speaking up - I think we often forget that the gay male body is often forgotten as it is often a target of corporate sexism too.
As a Canadian, I find that buying online from Europe is often the only way to get stuff. A lot of items just aren't sold here at all, even American brands, and a lot of stuff is way overpriced. I think that a lot of the blame goes on manufacturers who don't make their products available in certain markets for reasonable prices. There's no reason that something should cost twice a much to buy locally as it does to buy it online, shipped across an ocean.
GCN have had kit made for their filming that's then made available for purchase - I wouldn't buy it (wouldn't have a clue what size to fit a middle age person that is a distance from 'race weight'!) but don't see what the problem is adding it to their shop. No one has to buy it.
If I had £200 for some shorts I'd want to go to a shop to see them before. Fair play to anyone that can afford them though.
Hi guys, love the show, you’ve helped change my opinion on what’s necessary and what’s overrated as a beginner cyclist, saving me money in the process so thank you so much. Can we see in the future both Nick and Francis on the podcast, I know the intention is just to have 3 of you but Nick has the tech knowledge and Francis has the practical/race knowledge and together they’d provide a great perspective. Once again love the podcast, keep it up!
Your point about there are good and bad bike shops is spot on. Do not mind paying a little more at a good LBS. Issue is in my experience there are more bad ones out there. In times like these when the industry is struggling, hoping customers remember who the good ones are and support them.
There is a visor that attaches to the POC helmet for what I seen watching the EF Education-Cannondale team during the Challenge Mallorca Femenina last weekend
Nice one Emily 👍.
I’ve done a few Ironman ‘races’ I treated them as an all day buffet and tried to eat as much of the entrance fee as possible 😀
Great discussion around the MucOff ad 😊😊
And I had to grin at Nick - nerd-engineers live in a different world 😂
GCN for bikes is like Donut Media for cars-- loud, goofy entertainment for the lowest common denominator
None of them would need expensive kit, and those who do wouldn't be caught dead seen with it
I haven't been to other places in Spain yet but last year I had a chance to visit Girona. I fell in love immediately. I would say the "scene" is actually much bigger than I've seen anywhere else. Or maybe I should say much more concentrated. Never seen so many great cafes and bike shops in such a small area. I live in San Francisco Bay Area so it's not uncommon for me to run into hundreds of cyclists on a 4 hour bike ride but Girona is so small that you step out the door and immediately see dozens of super high end bikes roll by. So if you're a casual cyclist who cringe at that performance focused road cyclist it really might be a turn off. I personally really love looking at high end gear and training 12 hours and in that sense I LOVE that Girona has a high concentration of that kind of mindset. I really, REALLY would love to move there and we're seriously trying to make it happen.
Well said Emily, and Jimmy you are fantastic. Cade media make the best bike media on TH-cam and I listen again with podcast. Keep up the excellent work guys!
Brilliant piece.
Very well explained Emily
Since the Alex Crankgate, people have been bashing on GCN every week. AGU charges €180 for the same unbranded jersey on their site
For me one of the best Podcast out there.
#Mucoff i 100% agree with @Emily thank you for being so open and outspoken.
I salute!!!!
And to the rest of the Crew, keep up the great work, greets from Germany.
Love