The speedrunning community for Dragon's Dogma recently made a huge breakthrough with new strategies implemented... HavocSpill twitch - / havocspill Flyoutfate twitch - / flyoutfate
Encampment to oxanne, is it faster to go left of the ruins (instead of through), then pass through the channel on the other side of the same boulder? It feels like a straighter path, but I may be wrong.
@@The_Arisen we need a lot of time to test that - I was thinking of running a few tests sometime soon but your suggestion feels pretty solid. We can definitely test it out
The build doesn't seem to be a pure assassin, as far as I can tell, is there any particular reason for it? Without any context it kind of seems to me that would be best to give the highest chance to one shot everything. That and it seems like the Baleful nails were equipped every time a jail warp happened, but I'm not sure if it was needed for anything.
@@MarlowPreston every small optimization counts - this wasn't an assassin build, because Assassins don't have access to Skull Splitter, which is needed for the Everfall segment of the run. We're a strider for the entire run, although I've been considering the idea of a mid-run vocation swap utilizing the Fournival quest. The thing about it is we don't really know what would change in the run itself, so it doesn't seem worth it to incorporate yet
Speedrunner: Beats the entire game in less than fifteen minutes. Me: Day three of Bitterblack Isle grinding. I've forgotten what the sun looks like... Bomb supplies running low.
@@vladdracul5072 speedrunning is for people who have already beaten the game and want a harder challenge, so they create something new to do with the game they already beat they also end up discovering many things about how the game works
I remember that i once got stuck in Bittleblack when first playing because i had no idea what the teleport stones did (i did not know english very well at the time) i also had only had tMy personal pawn. Once i managed to get out i remember that (most) of the rest of the game was a breeze because i could one shot everything lol
Just finally bought this game for short of a 5 bucks on steam and I just love how open the mechanics of this game are and how almost every mechanic interacts with another somehow. This game truly is a masterpiece.
I love this game. The story kinda sucks till you fight the dragon. But everything else is amazing. And sorcerer just feels soooooo fun to play. Very few games let you become OP with magic so easily. It's always gotta be balanced or underpowered so people will wanna play the other classes. DD Says screw that go drop a tornado an earthquake and a couple meteors on that chimera and have fun doin it. What's your favorite class?
@@MrMaltelein Holy focused bolt comestation that lightning whip spell and heck even ingle are very good spells. Sure sorcerer can do most of that and more but being able to also cast healing is good when low on curatives.
Imagine being the duke and within the day of the dragon attack the new Arisen just kills the dragon. No time to even think about wtf just happened. Edit: Or being Gregori. Just made this Arisen and suddenly he's at your doorstep. "Uuuuh. I guess this person is your beloved do you want to OH WE'RE FIGHTING, oh I'm dead"
because they are not true speedruns. a true speedrun is from the fresh start of a game till it's end. The nature of the game here has sort of "main story runs" and these kind of "speedruns" require a lot of preparation in gear and character leveling first + going through the entire story once to get all the teleportation locations unlocked as well. So the preparations are anythign but "speed". that is why I guess that morrorwind is such a great game in terms of speedruns as it is truly from 0 to the end.
I actually wonder. If dialogs can stop the timer, and the ox still moves during the dialog, could it be an idea to kick the ox, talk to an npc, wait for the ox to stop running, close dialog, rush to ox and repeat to not let the time pass while the ox runs? If this can be done, then that might mean that the whole speedrun could be done in 6 minutes, maybe 7 or 8.
I discovered the jail bribe on my own yesterday when I was trying to sneak past the guard and they just didn't move while I was frozen in terror behind a box. Eventually I swallowed my fears, jumped out of the boxes ready to beat the shit out of him and turned out I could just talk and bribe like nothing happened.
I didn't think it was possible to get such a short run. My mind is blown! I did a speedrun once, but I wasn't all that seriously about it. I just wanted to unlock the reward costumes. I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I clocked in at an hour and eight minutes. But wow, this run was skillfully done and amazing to watch. I have tried to do the skullsplitter everfall landing, I just don't have the knack. I end up faceplanting with a sickening yet hilarious crunch. I'm more for endurance challenges. I'm still pretty stoked that I was able to do the Bitterblack challenge, starting at level ten with a rusty weapon, and also abstaining from using curitives. But hats off to anyone who can speedrun Dragon's Dogma so effectively!
@@hugodogobob Ahh so that's how it's done. I didn't jump but I didn't run towards the edge either, I would attempt to step off from a stationary position instead. Thank you for letting me know!
@@helenrowan5383 no problem, I struggled for a while. Saw people doing it and was like wtf. And I accidentally did from a run in bbi in the helix place with the gorecyclops and was like oh, it was way simpler than I thought.
@@hugodogobob I'm definitely going to give it a go next time I fire up the console. I look forward to the day where my character no longer kisses the ground due to an ill timed skullsplitter.
This is super cool to see! I used to run this category like 3 years ago on console a little bit, I think 18:10 was my personal best (never fully grinded an optimal character or submitted to the leaderboards). Glasnonck's run had already stood for a while and the community and strat development seemed somewhat dead at the time, it's awesome to see people breaking the record and coming up with new tech. Makes me want to try running it again! ...Well, maybe I'll wait until someone figures out an ox skip, haha.
One of the best lines in this game...'Even in numbers, a weakling, is a weakling still!' Mass-congrats on a Dragonfotged experience! 👏🐉 *Edit: i'll need the 'delorion' to even come close to that lol
I know Biting Winds helps you get a short burst of dash but I never know until now that it essential for the speedrun and goddamn 6:29 looks like a freaking ninja Literally this run is "I am Speed"
I'm writing this before watching the video, because even after seeing just the thumbnail made me go "what". So I went to check the leaderboard and then I noticed a funny thing: In real time the new record is 6:34 minutes slower than the previous record. Obviously for the leaderboard only the in-game time counts but it's kind of funny that if you wanted to watch a Dragon's Dogma speedrun it would be faster for you as a viewer to watch the "second-fastest" run.
@@LunarFortune Id like to see what 'as fast as possible' looks like in NG, where you actually have to engage the mechanics rather just spam blast arrows that were stockpiled in NG where you can take as long as you want.
Agreed, I only do New Game Hard any% and New Game Hard Hero (All Side Quests) speed runs. Nice to see how they'd tackle the problems these runs can give.
Congratulations to them! Amazing time, did speedrun mode for the achievment, one of the best RPGs of ALL time, maybe surpassed by dragons dogma 2 XD lets Hope for the best
I am going to hand it to you. Your way of beating Seneschal is even faster then mines. I mean how I handle Seneschal is use the Maker's Finger to 1 shot Seneschal but you did it without a Maker's Finger.
Instant reset, this skill is op af, you can´t be damaged by maneaters and can kill/ scape a gorecyclops, i´m no apeedrunner but Strider / Ranger / Assassin are utterly broken and fun, we´re gods on this game lol.
Ol' Havoc sounds like he's a few chats with a discord moderator away from getting his egg cracked. Being a speedrunner is about as high-risk as you can get. Stay strong, buddy.
After finishing the game about 76-82 and at the start i feel very slow but every new game+ it made me very fast after beating the game 13 times i got too cocky and do a hard mode but i just keep dying so i got back to easy
I've known you can bribe the guard after breaking out since like.... 2012 back on the Xbox 360.... If I knew a damn thing about the speedrunning community I would've said something.
Thank you! Also if I reply with the mod list I plan on downloading could you check and see if it’ll work? And make sure nothing conflicts. If not that’s cool just trying to get the best experience of this game
0:50. How did you manage to use Mad Dash in this kind of area? I thought the only way to get Mad Dash is you are supposed to go to The Encampment first and talk to the innkeeper to select Set Skills. At 0:50, you have not even set your skills yet. I thought once Grigori turns your character into an arisen, you cannot have the Mad Dash yet even at level infinite.
New Game Plus allows you to carry over equipped skills so long as you were the starter vocation/had skills that matched the starter vocation of your choice in the previous playthrough!
14:24 and here i thought how badass she is by shooting the chicken and not even looking but no, she is talking to guard .. of course .. women :) Also .. FlyOutFate? For some reason it took me 18 minutes to realize its not FLY YOU FOOLS :)
Video was lots of fun to make! Big thanks to Rift for having us, and let's see if we can't push the time down further o7
I am super excited for our further attempts at finding more strategies, and I'm very glad to have been here!
Encampment to oxanne, is it faster to go left of the ruins (instead of through), then pass through the channel on the other side of the same boulder? It feels like a straighter path, but I may be wrong.
@@The_Arisen we need a lot of time to test that - I was thinking of running a few tests sometime soon but your suggestion feels pretty solid. We can definitely test it out
The build doesn't seem to be a pure assassin, as far as I can tell, is there any particular reason for it?
Without any context it kind of seems to me that would be best to give the highest chance to one shot everything.
That and it seems like the Baleful nails were equipped every time a jail warp happened, but I'm not sure if it was needed for anything.
@@MarlowPreston every small optimization counts - this wasn't an assassin build, because Assassins don't have access to Skull Splitter, which is needed for the Everfall segment of the run. We're a strider for the entire run, although I've been considering the idea of a mid-run vocation swap utilizing the Fournival quest. The thing about it is we don't really know what would change in the run itself, so it doesn't seem worth it to incorporate yet
Speedrunner: Beats the entire game in less than fifteen minutes.
Me: Day three of Bitterblack Isle grinding. I've forgotten what the sun looks like... Bomb supplies running low.
For me speedrunning doesn't "beat" the game, it beats the purpose of playing.
@@vladdracul5072 how insightful. Why not go back to beating your purpose?
@@vladdracul5072 Rest assured they've "beaten" the game numerous times, so this is just for giggles.
@@vladdracul5072 speedrunning is for people who have already beaten the game and want a harder challenge, so they create something new to do with the game they already beat
they also end up discovering many things about how the game works
I remember that i once got stuck in Bittleblack when first playing because i had no idea what the teleport stones did (i did not know english very well at the time) i also had only had tMy personal pawn.
Once i managed to get out i remember that (most) of the rest of the game was a breeze because i could one shot everything lol
I guess the wind was pushing him
I guess he was pushing Wind
Bruh😂😂😂
His time must have been running free
It _was_ until they changed the menu music.
Into the current again
Master runs all. You can't go wrong.
master "WORKS" all
@@nukenade4623woosh
@@2ndcenturion /woosh indeed
Just finally bought this game for short of a 5 bucks on steam and I just love how open the mechanics of this game are and how almost every mechanic interacts with another somehow. This game truly is a masterpiece.
I love this game. The story kinda sucks till you fight the dragon. But everything else is amazing. And sorcerer just feels soooooo fun to play. Very few games let you become OP with magic so easily. It's always gotta be balanced or underpowered so people will wanna play the other classes. DD Says screw that go drop a tornado an earthquake and a couple meteors on that chimera and have fun doin it. What's your favorite class?
@@Guardian-of-Light137I really don’t understand why standing still for 5 minutes just to one shot a boss that can be killed faster is fun for anybody.
@@zzodysseuszzbecause big rock goes boom?
@@Guardian-of-Light137 I mean every class except maybe mage is overpowered in this game in it's own way lol, that keeps it balanced :D
@@MrMaltelein Holy focused bolt comestation that lightning whip spell and heck even ingle are very good spells. Sure sorcerer can do most of that and more but being able to also cast healing is good when low on curatives.
Imagine being the duke and within the day of the dragon attack the new Arisen just kills the dragon. No time to even think about wtf just happened.
Edit: Or being Gregori. Just made this Arisen and suddenly he's at your doorstep. "Uuuuh. I guess this person is your beloved do you want to OH WE'RE FIGHTING, oh I'm dead"
How is this game speedrun not more popular? It has everything to be a top speedrun game.
I know right, probably because it's not as big as skyrim and souls. It's got potential and speedrunners are still figuring it out.
oxcart is aids and theres no real fun moments to the run, its no surprise its unpopular honestly
It had to compete with the souls games and lost.
because they are not true speedruns. a true speedrun is from the fresh start of a game till it's end. The nature of the game here has sort of "main story runs" and these kind of "speedruns" require a lot of preparation in gear and character leveling first + going through the entire story once to get all the teleportation locations unlocked as well. So the preparations are anythign but "speed". that is why I guess that morrorwind is such a great game in terms of speedruns as it is truly from 0 to the end.
I actually wonder. If dialogs can stop the timer, and the ox still moves during the dialog, could it be an idea to kick the ox, talk to an npc, wait for the ox to stop running, close dialog, rush to ox and repeat to not let the time pass while the ox runs? If this can be done, then that might mean that the whole speedrun could be done in 6 minutes, maybe 7 or 8.
That cockatrice kill looked so casual and the Arisen looking so done with being asked to do chores. I love this
Amazing, I love speedrun commentaries, video comes at a good time as well since GDQ is going on. Gratz to the runners
I discovered the jail bribe on my own yesterday when I was trying to sneak past the guard and they just didn't move while I was frozen in terror behind a box. Eventually I swallowed my fears, jumped out of the boxes ready to beat the shit out of him and turned out I could just talk and bribe like nothing happened.
So sick to see a video on the speed running side of this game, havoc and flyout deserve at the rep they get from this
I didn't think it was possible to get such a short run. My mind is blown! I did a speedrun once, but I wasn't all that seriously about it. I just wanted to unlock the reward costumes. I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I clocked in at an hour and eight minutes. But wow, this run was skillfully done and amazing to watch. I have tried to do the skullsplitter everfall landing, I just don't have the knack. I end up faceplanting with a sickening yet hilarious crunch. I'm more for endurance challenges. I'm still pretty stoked that I was able to do the Bitterblack challenge, starting at level ten with a rusty weapon, and also abstaining from using curitives. But hats off to anyone who can speedrun Dragon's Dogma so effectively!
Are you jumping before doing the skill? You have to do it from a run towards the edge.
@@hugodogobob Ahh so that's how it's done. I didn't jump but I didn't run towards the edge either, I would attempt to step off from a stationary position instead. Thank you for letting me know!
@@helenrowan5383 no problem, I struggled for a while. Saw people doing it and was like wtf. And I accidentally did from a run in bbi in the helix place with the gorecyclops and was like oh, it was way simpler than I thought.
So simply put, activate the skill while on the ground running towards the edge. It's easy to overthink it haha
@@hugodogobob I'm definitely going to give it a go next time I fire up the console. I look forward to the day where my character no longer kisses the ground due to an ill timed skullsplitter.
This is super cool to see! I used to run this category like 3 years ago on console a little bit, I think 18:10 was my personal best (never fully grinded an optimal character or submitted to the leaderboards). Glasnonck's run had already stood for a while and the community and strat development seemed somewhat dead at the time, it's awesome to see people breaking the record and coming up with new tech. Makes me want to try running it again! ...Well, maybe I'll wait until someone figures out an ox skip, haha.
i like to watch these records after i do my own speedruns as a way to unwind and enjoy the pros.
Congrats!! You have achieved The Dragon Breath social achievement!! Nice one!
I’ve just put 55 hours into DD so this was especially cathartic to watch
Awesome video. I just got in to your lore videos after picking up this game a couple weeks ago. This was great.
seneschal: "alright ive sent out the dragon i wonder how long its gonna take the new arisen- oh hey arisen"
played through this game like 8 times and never knew you could speed up the ox cart...
In 15 minutes I'm still at the cart quest, BUT MY GUY FINISHED THE GAME
In 15 minutes ill still be searching for every coin on cassardys
I just finished DG like a week ago. I swear there isn't enough DG content on youtube. This was fun
Great run! Amazing tactics! I need at least twice as long just to choose my perfect pawns xD
Ahah, can relate dude
You finished the game the same speed it took me to make my character.
brooo ive been siting on 13:12 for years, had no idea how close ive been to a actual speedrun record holy shit
Damn, that's insane dude. Can't even get through ox cart in 15 min.
@@The_Rift yeah it was before the kicking exploit got patched
@@The_Rift the best I can do now is 30 something minutes
Is this the power of knowing goblins ill like fire?
This is absolutely mesmerising
Really nice...now let's see what the speed-run for DD2 will be like :D
I bet they wont have an ox cart in dd2
@@montgomeryfortenberry Watch as they have atleast 2, just to spite the players.
@@ForemostCrab7 lolol
i wish i was even 1% this good >.< my first playthrough ever took me over 200 hours T-T
I did everything possible on hard in 80 hours 😂
that fly dude was yappin bro
Holy moley! Btw, did you know that wolves hunt in packs?
One of the best lines in this game...'Even in numbers, a weakling, is a weakling still!'
Mass-congrats on a Dragonfotged experience!
👏🐉
*Edit: i'll need the 'delorion' to even come close to that lol
You know what they say; It's about Time
I know Biting Winds helps you get a short burst of dash but I never know until now that it essential for the speedrun and goddamn 6:29 looks like a freaking ninja
Literally this run is "I am Speed"
Hear ye, Hear ye! the Dragon has... Ehh, never mind...
This guy is an Isekai protagonist in Dragon's Dogma at this point.
Was that a different cutscene for killing grigori with a maker's finger in that first area????
I'm writing this before watching the video, because even after seeing just the thumbnail made me go "what". So I went to check the leaderboard and then I noticed a funny thing: In real time the new record is 6:34 minutes slower than the previous record.
Obviously for the leaderboard only the in-game time counts but it's kind of funny that if you wanted to watch a Dragon's Dogma speedrun it would be faster for you as a viewer to watch the "second-fastest" run.
And I did it in 47 mins lol. Well, I always hated speedruns. I couldn't use any teleports in my time trial game :(
oh my gosh! 47 minutes was exactly mine too 😂
And here I was being proud of my 57 minute run.
so many things i had no idea about in the long time ive played the game.
Before I watch this... have not seen any DDDA speed runs but I am going to guess something crucial to the runs are BLAST ARROWS.
Merciful winged death!
I wish more attention was paid to NG runs
Yes every dd speed run just spans items
@@umwha the point of speedrun is to be as fast as possible....
@@LunarFortune Id like to see what 'as fast as possible' looks like in NG, where you actually have to engage the mechanics rather just spam blast arrows that were stockpiled in NG where you can take as long as you want.
Agreed, I only do New Game Hard any% and New Game Hard Hero (All Side Quests) speed runs. Nice to see how they'd tackle the problems these runs can give.
@@LunarFortune there are different categories.
godlike speedrunners
13:16 is no squander 'neath you?!
Mercedes is waifu
What a gaffe!
I was going to get *REALLY* impressed with how powerful that character was. Only to find out it's a new game plus speed run.
Going to attempting my first ever DD speedrun in anticipation of DD2 and for my trophy hunt!!
Wish me luck!!
Congratulations to them! Amazing time, did speedrun mode for the achievment, one of the best RPGs of ALL time, maybe surpassed by dragons dogma 2 XD lets Hope for the best
I didn't even know u cooould move this fast 😅
I also found out about the guard because I didn't know how else to get out.
I am going to hand it to you. Your way of beating Seneschal is even faster then mines. I mean how I handle Seneschal is use the Maker's Finger to 1 shot Seneschal but you did it without a Maker's Finger.
How does he cancel the bitting wind animation like that?
Instant reset, this skill is op af, you can´t be damaged by maneaters and can kill/ scape a gorecyclops, i´m no apeedrunner but Strider / Ranger / Assassin are utterly broken and fun, we´re gods on this game lol.
whaaaaaat my favorite game ever cant wait for dragons dogma 2
For the griifin hunt jus' know yu' don' need to talk to the huntin' party, jus' go kill it.
Why the fuck do you type like that
7:14 cool look its the crow
I've put hundreds of hours into this game over the years and just now found out you can speed up the ox.
Nice!
Masterful!!!
Every time these guys say the word "like" everyone has to drink a shot!
If you're a level 200 strider, wouldn't a fracture dart, placed between the liches take them both down in one shot?
New strat!!!
Unfortunately the windup animation is slower than pentad and any follow up recovery shots would be :(
does the quest chasing shadows disappear afrer the dukes directive
No such rift exists other than to obstruct me
i you could just use the dragonbane right off the bat and then turn in the wakestone game ends in 20 sec
good game
well done. just woow.
22 minutes is my best. I'm okay with that. I've still never managed to get it any faster.
how is he kicking the ox
Master! Goblins!
Ol' Havoc sounds like he's a few chats with a discord moderator away from getting his egg cracked. Being a speedrunner is about as high-risk as you can get. Stay strong, buddy.
Dang it. I just did it in 36 minutes and was feeling pretty good. Of course someone online did it in less than half the time. lol
I really like the speedrun mode idea but wish there were more rewards to unlock
12:52! lol
Wow!!!!! Less than 13 mins!!!!!
Doesn't the oxcart quest automatically skip if you start it at night-time?
After finishing the game about 76-82 and at the start i feel very slow but every new game+ it made me very fast after beating the game 13 times i got too cocky and do a hard mode but i just keep dying so i got back to easy
Why doesn't the run start on a new save?
Because that wouldnt be fast
Very niceeeee!!!
I've known you can bribe the guard after breaking out since like.... 2012 back on the Xbox 360.... If I knew a damn thing about the speedrunning community I would've said something.
Awesome 👍
Does it go back to hard-mode after you finish? I don't want to lose my initial setting before I hit speed run.
Me running around while he does it 😮 ermmm hahaha 😆
Without speedrunning Ive had a below 30 minute playthrough.
Lol sure buddy.
Do you have a in depth guide to modding DD? It’s my first time modding and I do not want to mess it up
Hey, here is a short guide: th-cam.com/video/LvBlUJ8366A/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! Also if I reply with the mod list I plan on downloading could you check and see if it’ll work? And make sure nothing conflicts. If not that’s cool just trying to get the best experience of this game
Does being in a menu pause the speedrun?
wait!, you can make the ox move faster!?.
LESGOOOOO
0:50. How did you manage to use Mad Dash in this kind of area? I thought the only way to get Mad Dash is you are supposed to go to The Encampment first and talk to the innkeeper to select Set Skills. At 0:50, you have not even set your skills yet. I thought once Grigori turns your character into an arisen, you cannot have the Mad Dash yet even at level infinite.
New Game Plus allows you to carry over equipped skills so long as you were the starter vocation/had skills that matched the starter vocation of your choice in the previous playthrough!
YOU CAN KICK THE OX TO MAKE IT MOVE FASTER?!?!??!
Finish 1:12:28
Play Dragon's Dogma
Well, if he is level one million and one shot every boss, its not really a speedrun for me.
How the F he move like this anyone knows?
5 years ? Well didn't know i was that good it only took me like 20 hours to finish the game lads !!
14:24 and here i thought how badass she is by shooting the chicken and not even looking but no, she is talking to guard .. of course .. women :)
Also .. FlyOutFate? For some reason it took me 18 minutes to realize its not FLY YOU FOOLS :)
I didn’t see anywhere where he gathered evidence for the trial is that skipable???
If you dont get any evidence the trial just defaults to guilty
if i was there my score 3hours 55miunites 59seconds
It would nice if someone could do a speed run, without starting with all the OP gear.
What is the new game record?
why not use op pawns? is that in the rules?
dont need them
For autonomy maybe that need solo to add more weapon damage
In what way would that speed up the run? He kills everything in a second or 2
A bit weird to do a NG+ speedrun?