@@randybobandy9828 right. Dudes with freak genetics get to look like him. You know nothing of his training philosophy or you wouldn’t have made this comment. Obviously he took steroids but any ifbb pro does. Recovery can be more important than the actual workout.
@@randybobandy9828 that was the method for his last Olympia, not his entire lifetime of training. If you busted your ass in the gym more often you wouldn’t spend so much time there.
@@randybobandy9828 Mike isn't lying, if you spend too much time in the gym you can waste energy with unnecessary sets, his method teaches you to train harder for less time, this is scientifically proven to work.
You're prescribing him knowledge he doesn't talk about. Anyone with a brain knows that working out requires rest and stresses the body. He had no specific knowledge of cortisol. Of course he obviously did something right to get that physique.
@@Ybby999 “up to a certain point in time stress can be beneficial to the body, but after a specified amount of time it’s actually detrimental.” He’s talking about in terms of muscle growth. After about an hour, no matter how hard you’re working out your cortisol will spike. With how hard he worked out it probably did start spiking around 30 minutes. He was able to realize this while other bodybuilders of the time spent upwards of 6-8 hours in the gym every single day. Are you really that dense?
@@Ybby999 “up to a certain point in time stress can be beneficial to the body, but after a specified amount of time it’s actually detrimental.” He’s talking about in terms of muscle growth. After about an hour, no matter how hard you’re working out your cortisol will spike. With how hard he worked out it probably did start spiking around 30 minutes. He was able to realize this while other bodybuilders of the time spent upwards of 6-8 hours in the gym every single day. Are you really that dense?
@Janoy Cresva you need to change your mindset and find a fitness related activity that you truly love doing. Doesn’t matter if it’s swimming, lifting, running, CrossFit whatever you wanna do it’ll make it much easier and more enjoyable to spend large chunks of time doing it
That's what I do. Everyone told me I was stupid. It just felt right for me. I was doing it coming off of addiction and I was addicted to pushing as hard as I could. I got jacked quick only one or two sets per exercise but pushed until complete failure. And that's different mentally for everyone.
Totally agree I not only felt better but I noticed after focusing on quality rather than quantity of reps I got better results and felt better long term
It actually doesn't matter if you agree or not, that's just has to do with your state of mind. This is science and looking at how the body works and it works that way no matter what you feel about it, just like if you believe the earth is flat or not it is still round and the planet moves around the sun not the opposite
@@fredrikandersson1846 it varies greatly depending on genetics. This guy is a genetic freak and took roids so yeah of course 2 hours a week will get him huge. Not the same for everyone. Different body types like ectomorph, endomorph and mesomorph require very different diet and workout plans.
@@scozzbaggs9224 naah bro if you take rest when you dont need rest its just a spilled 24 hours you are only gonna need rest days if you actually train to failure and cant do anything but laying in bed in pain thats a day where it wouldnt be a good move to go to the gym the next day
Bring yourself to failure and walk away! Works a treat for me. No injuries, no over training, superior results compared to when I did 2 hours 5 times per week!
@@respecteverybodynohate9637he won that contest in 1980 Arnold looked soft had no legs lacked definition but still won why it’s a popularity contest than he retire again and the following year his best friend wins it Franco who had a bad leg and titts lol no joke mike and Tom platz was first second that year
He literally died from PED abuse lmao, do you people realize that? Do you even think before typing about how amazing his methods are? It would be like if some guy that died from using too many PEDs got to the top using only cheat reps with a slow eccentric and all of you called him ahead of his time.
Grow up, Drugs are used in all sports, even the Olympics ..! There are drugs that hide drugs..! But you have to put the very hard work and dedication to achieve anything..! Please don’t take that away from them. Take care
Yes, Weider Blatantly Robbed him. He never competed after that because he knew it was rigged. Just a Freighttrain of Ugly Politics / Favortism. Unfortunately, he let it affect him negatively after the 1980 Olympia.
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329 hi Ronald, I was lucky enough to see him in a seminar in England about 2 days after the Olympia . He looked incredible, he was way ahead at the time, with his knowledge of the body, I started to train to total failure. I found that I needed to train every other day, not for the muscle to recuperate. But for my nervous system to recuperate from the tress. I was 5’6’’ 9 stone and ended up 15 stone 10lb in simetry 18’’ neck 18’’ calf’s 17 3/4 biceps. Met and trained with Dorian Yates, when he was training for the mister Britain, to get a professional card. Back in the early 80s lived in a small town. Me and my mate, out grew the weights at the town gym. So soon as we finished work, we would make our way to the train station. Catch a train to Birmingham, Britain s second biggest city to train. Temple gym, a real spit and sawdust gym under ground in seller’s. Della shaharby, female miss Olympia contestant trained there with Johnny Fuller another mr Olympia contestant. We thought we trained hard till we went there for the first time..! Some great memories met so many of the top bodybuilder’s at the time. I’m nearly 61 now would love to train, but my elbows and wrist’s have had it. Bodybuilding has opened so many doors and opportunities to me over the years. Good luck with your training, and God bless you, take care. Steve.
As a young man I bought his book Heavy Duty directly mail order from him. He offered phone consultations at that time I was able to afford 4, 30 minute consults. He made a huge impact on me.
@@ktb0717 Obviously I was not using gear but his philosophy held true. I was making gains that were well ahead of my peers that lived in the gym. To this day I hold his training principles as complete gold.
I like when Mike Mentzer says sarcastically that if more is better then why not train all day long??? Haha rest in peace, Mike Mentzer your amazing! And thank you Mr. Little for the videos.
I'm a consultant for a large gym chain. Every time someone starts with "I'm going to train 7 days a week" crap, I ask them why Usain Bolt can't sprint full speed for a marathon.
Well Arnold was already a legend when Mike peaked in 1980, and he was robbed of the 1980 Olympia by Weider. I admire Schwarzenegger but Mike deserved that win which would have given him the recognition and respect he truly deserved.
One my trainers in vegas who became one of my best friends trained directly under mentzer, and was in his training vids, talked about him every time we worked out. He was a goat.
Overtraining is actually VERY difficult to do. Lol Especially with your abs which are a small muscle group that is an endurance muscle. Your abdominal muscles are literally stabilizing your trunk, and holding your organs in place 24/7.
I met and got to know him in 74 when he started training for mr america. At that time he was working full body 3 times a week. 2 to 3 sets per bodypart. Of course he was genetically gifted but I never saw anyone at that time grow so big so fast. Discusing his workout philosophy with him was like getting a college lecture in physiology..
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE John you are absolutely right.Although at the time we all got so used to seeing him, Not getting Mike and his brother Ray on film is something I always regretted later on.
@@RMokros Arnold smoked and was drinking alcohol in his morning coffee before workouts every day. You can do that with just about any of these guys from that era lol. Mike died cause of a heart disease that ran in his family. People like you just spout that shit about his personal life because you don't like that he was smarter than your favorite guy.
Mike was beyond his years, his logic still holds water because the body can only take a certain amount of stress. Rest and recreation are necessary to develop your muscles.
This is how I've been training the last 3 years. Train about 4 to 4 and a half hours a week. Went from 165lbs (75kg) to 205 lbs (93kg) and much much stronger now. Before that I over-trained and was always dealing with some injury or pain. Dont try to grind through the pain and increase the weight a little more slowly. The gains will come, save yourself all the crap that held me back for so long.
Exactly what I've mentioned to people. I lifted religiously for 10 years, and made my biggest gains, with working out less. I work out 30 minutes, 3-4 times a week right now
This is 100% facts,and the ppl that say overtraining is not real blows my mind,obviously If ur enhanced that's going to help, but recovery is Paramount in building muscle
I will say this, im a 41 year old guy who worked out for a year straight. No roids, no supplements or anything. Just healthy eating and protein shakes. Two hours per workout, 5 to 6 times a week and i saw improvement but very little in my opinion based on the work i put in. Found some of Mikes videos and decided to try his ideas and i can honestly say, for me they are working. Recovery is half of muscle building as i am now learning, especially for guys in my age group doing it naturally. Workout the chosen muscle group until failure and soreness then rest it for 3 days then do it again. You will be surprised
When I learned about MIKE MENTZER's training methods everything changed for me. I no longer have anxiety to get to the gym. 2 Hours per week is more then enough if you make th3m efficient.
Mike Mentzer deserved both the 1979 and 1980 Mr. Olympia wins but his training principles went against what Joe Weider said and what Arnold did so they prevented him from rightfully winning the Olympia.
I'm using his method.. working my muscle groups to failure, allowing the time to heal short hard routines to complete failure. Six months in and I've gotten results my pullups my díps everything this works his method is working for what I want to do. this works for every body type you are trying to achieve. Just be mindful of your diet what you eat is important. But I promise you this works. 💯
I agree with that. If you train 7h a week, why not train 14h a week. I usually train 45min to 1h and if close to 1h I feel exhausted (not in a good way). 45min is effective to me and maybe 30min would be even better. I believe less is better if done properly. Mike Mentzer was a very wise guy
I believe this. I worked out for years to get a very good physique but now I can't because I work a lot and the jobs very physical. Surprisingly though in 6 months I still look the same but more cut and I realized it's because I utilize each muscle group daily from wor alone.
There's a huge difference in the traning volume you have to do for maintaining versus growing. Maintaining requires MUCH less volume than growing. So it checks out.
@@harshtruthengineer1382 Yep! Pretty much. Look up Nautilis and Arthur Jones. I remember buying a copy of The Nautilus Bodybuilding Book in October of 1989, a month before turning eighteen. I've used HIT principles ever since. When you see the results you get for comparitively little time you'll never want to go back to being a 'gym slave' again. The flip side of this is that HIT really is VERY high intensity. It bloody hurts.
Split your weekly sets per muscle group into 2 sessions a week, rather than hit one muscle group once a week. The science has proven undoubtedly through multiple studies that 2x a week is better than 1x, volume equated
@@Charles-pf7zy okay thanks , would you drop me link for research articles , becouse there is to many tiktokers going gym 2months and giving advice. I wouldnt mind go 2 days , but I need more volume as my job is sitting every day for 7-8 hours.
@@Charles-pf7zy That works for me as well Charles. I am 52 and need more rest but still feel good with 3 workouts a week. I do a M//W/F schedule with 2 workouts that alternate. So one week has one workout twice and the other once. Then the following week it flip flops.
Based same here, in my first 8 months of training i trained 1 hour 30 mins, did 20 sets a day, it was too much. I always overtrained, and felt exhausted and miserable. I was growing since i was new but i couldve grown way more if i wouldve started doing low volume at the start. Now i train 40 mins a day just like you and i feel like im growing weekly! If your intensity is at max, 40 mins is plenty, literally training more than an hour is too much if youre training hard, if you think 1 hour isnt enough, youre just simply not training hard enough.
This. For example, if you do 4-split like 1. upper body push 2. upper body pull 3. lower body push 4. lower body pull you can easily work the respective muscle groups to a total fatigue in a 30 min workout. Even once per week is sufficient, in which case it means 2h of weekly training in total.
30mins a session is actually plenty if you put down the cell and only rest 30secs in-between sets. Can bang a lot out just have to get savage on that ass
One of Mike's analogies was look at the body of a sprinter and a long distance runner. There's usually a significant amount of muscle on a sprinter compared to the slim physique of a distance runner.
As a working man I did not have alot of time to train. I learned the Mike Mentzer way! I trained 1.5 hr 3 times a week! I worked out each body part twice a week. I did no more than 3 sets per body part! I trained from 7 to 15 reps to failure, every set! It took me about 10 years to go from a skinny kid 160 lbs to 230 lbs. and I got big! Resting, eating & supplements is a huge part of it. This Man was right!
Great advise! The controlled stress is called Hormesis. By creating a controlled stress, you create a healing response in the body making all out cells stronger and creating longevity in your health span
yeah, but other's did differently and had similar or much better results. He was a bit "blocky" for back then, although I really like his physique. Lee and Arnold had nice athletic v-tapers.
Through many years of trial and error I realised that I only need to spend 2 hours a week on upper body and 2 hours on lower body and I respond very well to it. I try to hit every muscle in the gym and don't prioritise any particular movement. It's crazy how much better I feel not killing myself and not creating tight muscles and imbalances in my body. The most important part of working out is definitely rest. But you have to go hard when you do workout.
Mentzer is the man. Been following his philosophy now for three months. Literally have better results in three months than the last 15 years of jumping from program to program.
He trained high intensity. He goes back to another set before he stops hearing his blood pumping in his head. I read about him in muscle development mag a long time ago. I think he died from heart failure at age 49. It’s not a easy lifestyle.
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329 There is a huge body of evidence supporting the devastating consequences of overtraining as a natural. However Mike was able to make the gains he did with so little training due to his ground breaking stacking protocols. He was a very smart man and a huge loss to the world and his family
Gym bro who are unfamiliar with the Mike Mentzer system training can refer to the following: Do one warm up set with a moderate weight, and then another set with a heavy weight you can only lift for up to six reps with MAX energy output. Here are few keys: 1. Paying attention to both concentric and eccentric phase of every reps. 2. Once the fully contracted position is reached, pause momentarily before returning to the retracted position. 3. Slowly lower the weight through the eccentric (negative) phase until the muscle is fully extended. The last rep will make you look like Thanos-skinned Captain America pulling the helicopter. Your muscle soreness will last for 3-4 days. Do not train other muscle groups during these 3-4 days. Get enough rest and eat enough nutrients to fully nourish your muscles. Train this way and you'll look bigger and beat your PR every time you get back to the gym.
Such a difference in body builders when they get older from then too now, this guy still has mass looks healthy everyone looks horrible when they get older
@The RealMathilda That’s simply not true. Cholesterol is one of the major risk factors for heart disease. I’m not sure where you got that information but you should read from more than one or two sources 👊
“cutting-edge science” is a very nice way to say that whatever new data you are using has not been repeated or stood over a long period of time. Cholesterol is highly associated with heart disease, Dr. Carvalho from Nutrition Made Simple did a good breakdown of some of the misinformation on this subject.
@The RealMathilda No the ldl cholesterol theories are usually from the keto people. After checking out Dr Attia, I have to say i’m not fan. For many reasons I don’t believe he has the correct qualifications to speak as definitively as he does as he does not have a specialization in nutritional science or anthropology which are the most relevant fields in my opinion. He is also an advocate for low carb diets and has worked with some other famous low carb authors which makes me wonder how he got into this grouping with little experience in the specialty. Many of his comment sections seem to be debunking or debating his information that he is providing which indicates to me he is either misinformed or not showing enough evidence for his claims. I also am not a fan of paywalling medical information when there is many free resources that are transparent and don’t rely on FOMO and sunk-costing your audience.
I totally understand rest is important but he had some unique genetics most people and almost all other body builders couldn't get to that stage just training 2 hours a week
Back in the 80s alot of people discredited this man, he was ahead of the time
💯
@@randybobandy9828 right. Dudes with freak genetics get to look like him. You know nothing of his training philosophy or you wouldn’t have made this comment. Obviously he took steroids but any ifbb pro does. Recovery can be more important than the actual workout.
@@randybobandy9828 that was the method for his last Olympia, not his entire lifetime of training. If you busted your ass in the gym more often you wouldn’t spend so much time there.
@@randybobandy9828 Dorian would work out forty five minutes a day four days a week so it really isn’t that crazy
@@randybobandy9828 Mike isn't lying, if you spend too much time in the gym you can waste energy with unnecessary sets, his method teaches you to train harder for less time, this is scientifically proven to work.
Mentzer red pilled us from the bodybuilding matrix.
Good reference!
So did Dorian Yates
@@wayne-o_2_the_swayne-o324 Dorian got it from Mike
Facts
Doing remote work in the gym
The mustache makes me believe him.
Adolf hitler
The way of the mustache..!
😂
🤣🤣🤣
He got that John Holmes stache going.
What an articulate man.
His book is emaculate
@@pube66 dude that was 40 years ago, bodybuilders today juice way more
My thoughts exactly.
@@pube66 who cares if he’s roided it’s a fucking mr Olympia ofc he’s not natty
@@basedcringe9000 juicing is juicing dont try be a white knight and defend his roiding.
He’s a wise man. Stimulate don’t annihilate.
His working sets did annihilate too though lol
That’s a hodge twins quote right there 😂
Actually a Lee Hainey quote!
Definitely Lee Haney
@@MADYogiFreshLee Haney
It’s crazy with his level of knowledge of his body he understood how cortisol worked in workouts before it was even medically proven. That’s nuts.
Really shows how valuable experience and listening to your body is 👏
You're prescribing him knowledge he doesn't talk about. Anyone with a brain knows that working out requires rest and stresses the body. He had no specific knowledge of cortisol. Of course he obviously did something right to get that physique.
Why cortisol? Because he said the word stress??
@@Ybby999 “up to a certain point in time stress can be beneficial to the body, but after a specified amount of time it’s actually detrimental.”
He’s talking about in terms of muscle growth. After about an hour, no matter how hard you’re working out your cortisol will spike. With how hard he worked out it probably did start spiking around 30 minutes. He was able to realize this while other bodybuilders of the time spent upwards of 6-8 hours in the gym every single day. Are you really that dense?
@@Ybby999 “up to a certain point in time stress can be beneficial to the body, but after a specified amount of time it’s actually detrimental.”
He’s talking about in terms of muscle growth. After about an hour, no matter how hard you’re working out your cortisol will spike. With how hard he worked out it probably did start spiking around 30 minutes. He was able to realize this while other bodybuilders of the time spent upwards of 6-8 hours in the gym every single day. Are you really that dense?
His style was basically doing only 1 or maybe 2 sets ( not counting warmup) and going all out, until you feel like crying and/or vomitting. Done.
Steroids killed both Mentzer brithers
@Janoy Cresva you need to change your mindset and find a fitness related activity that you truly love doing. Doesn’t matter if it’s swimming, lifting, running, CrossFit whatever you wanna do it’ll make it much easier and more enjoyable to spend large chunks of time doing it
@Janoy Cresva pissening
@Janoy Cresva This video starring Mike himself is a good place to start learning about his style: th-cam.com/video/tcMOG0ECqDU/w-d-xo.html Good luck!
That's what I do. Everyone told me I was stupid. It just felt right for me. I was doing it coming off of addiction and I was addicted to pushing as hard as I could. I got jacked quick only one or two sets per exercise but pushed until complete failure. And that's different mentally for everyone.
Those 30 minute sessions must have been INTENSE!
Yep
@@dreniparaj6012thanks for sharing
Or he’s full of shit. But then again when you’re on the sauce you don’t need to do much. 😂
@FlipGuitarist80 yeah I have some serious doubts about how little he was training
@@FlipGuitarist80lmfao you know nothing about bodybuilding if this is your honest take on this
Totally agree I not only felt better but I noticed after focusing on quality rather than quantity of reps I got better results and felt better long term
Yep I could get an all out workout done in less than 10 minutes doing just 1 set of true failure for a couple exercises.
Lazy ppl
It actually doesn't matter if you agree or not, that's just has to do with your state of mind. This is science and looking at how the body works and it works that way no matter what you feel about it, just like if you believe the earth is flat or not it is still round and the planet moves around the sun not the opposite
@@fredrikandersson1846 you're misinformed my friend
@@fredrikandersson1846 it varies greatly depending on genetics. This guy is a genetic freak and took roids so yeah of course 2 hours a week will get him huge. Not the same for everyone. Different body types like ectomorph, endomorph and mesomorph require very different diet and workout plans.
“What’s your rest day bro?”
“Yes”
You shouldnt do rest days planned only when you feel you need it lol
@@bigsmegzz2523 the worst advice
@@scozzbaggs9224 naah bro if you take rest when you dont need rest its just a spilled 24 hours you are only gonna need rest days if you actually train to failure and cant do anything but laying in bed in pain thats a day where it wouldnt be a good move to go to the gym the next day
@@bigsmegzz2523 u do u
@@scozzbaggs9224 i have to say with that im enhanced so it might be that i guess for a natural lifter this will not work out so great true that
Bring yourself to failure and walk away! Works a treat for me. No injuries, no over training, superior results compared to when I did 2 hours 5 times per week!
Quality workouts are more important than quantity. He is exactly right.
Roids help
And quality reps
Basically rest days are the most important. Not enough rest days = no muscle growth. Period.
More quantity will result in more growth, high volume high frequency mid intesity
30 mins 3 times per week for me. Intensity and nutrition are key.
DL brah
💯💪
What do you do?
Yeah but are you yoked?
@@dangrimes5078 what do you think ? Of course Daniel son
He should have been Mr. Olympia 🔥🔥🔥
Sadly he gave up after he lost to Arnold Schwarzenegger
@Micozane Woods NPC opinion.
@@micozanewoods4745 also arnold did a lot more of roids than this dude
@@respecteverybodynohate9637he won that contest in 1980 Arnold looked soft had no legs lacked definition but still won why it’s a popularity contest than he retire again and the following year his best friend wins it Franco who had a bad leg and titts lol no joke mike and Tom platz was first second that year
@@respecteverybodynohate9637it was rigged
Mike was so far ahead of the curve in his knowledge wow.
I wish he was my strength coach
And look at him still looking great. Definitely ahead of his time. Cheers
He literally died from PED abuse lmao, do you people realize that? Do you even think before typing about how amazing his methods are? It would be like if some guy that died from using too many PEDs got to the top using only cheat reps with a slow eccentric and all of you called him ahead of his time.
HE WAS THE RIGHTFUL WINNER OF THE OLYMPIA THAT YEAR..! GOD BLESS HIM AND HIS BROTHER, LEGENDS..!
Winner of roid usage
Grow up, Drugs are used in all sports, even the Olympics ..! There are drugs that hide drugs..! But you have to put the very hard work and dedication to achieve anything..! Please don’t take that away from them. Take care
Yes, Weider Blatantly Robbed him. He never competed after that because he knew it was rigged. Just a Freighttrain of Ugly Politics / Favortism. Unfortunately, he let it affect him negatively after the 1980 Olympia.
@@stephenbradburn7225
Amen Stephen. I'm so sick of hearing gym wimps jealousy say that the success of someone else is due to drugs.
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329 hi Ronald, I was lucky enough to see him in a seminar in England about 2 days after the Olympia . He looked incredible, he was way ahead at the time, with his knowledge of the body, I started to train to total failure. I found that I needed to train every other day, not for the muscle to recuperate. But for my nervous system to recuperate from the tress. I was 5’6’’ 9 stone and ended up 15 stone 10lb in simetry 18’’ neck 18’’ calf’s 17 3/4 biceps. Met and trained with Dorian Yates, when he was training for the mister Britain, to get a professional card. Back in the early 80s lived in a small town. Me and my mate, out grew the weights at the town gym. So soon as we finished work, we would make our way to the train station. Catch a train to Birmingham, Britain s second biggest city to train. Temple gym, a real spit and sawdust gym under ground in seller’s. Della shaharby, female miss Olympia contestant trained there with Johnny Fuller another mr Olympia contestant. We thought we trained hard till we went there for the first time..! Some great memories met so many of the top bodybuilder’s at the time. I’m nearly 61 now would love to train, but my elbows and wrist’s have had it. Bodybuilding has opened so many doors and opportunities to me over the years. Good luck with your training, and God bless you, take care. Steve.
As a young man I bought his book Heavy Duty directly mail order from him. He offered phone consultations at that time I was able to afford 4, 30 minute consults. He made a huge impact on me.
Did his 3 minute workouts hold up for transformation to urself? Or was he just a genetic freak
30minute*
@@ktb0717 Obviously I was not using gear but his philosophy held true. I was making gains that were well ahead of my peers that lived in the gym. To this day I hold his training principles as complete gold.
@@carlbruhn1772 can you share what your workout is and some tips pls.
Hey could you share some insights, I also have several books and would ask you some questions if you don’t mind
I like when Mike Mentzer says sarcastically that if more is better then why not train all day long??? Haha rest in peace, Mike Mentzer your amazing! And thank you Mr. Little for the videos.
You’re welcome, Josef. Thanks for your post.
I'm a consultant for a large gym chain. Every time someone starts with "I'm going to train 7 days a week" crap, I ask them why Usain Bolt can't sprint full speed for a marathon.
Because trainong all day is too much with little rate of return.
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329
Because they human body has limitations.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion
Exactly Mike's point. And that limit is much less volume than many believe.
🔥 Mike Mentzer is just a freaking league & wizard of his own.
This man was ahead of his time!
Mentzer is underrated! And should have had more popularity and recognition.
Well Arnold was already a legend when Mike peaked in 1980, and he was robbed of the 1980 Olympia by Weider. I admire Schwarzenegger but Mike deserved that win which would have given him the recognition and respect he truly deserved.
One my trainers in vegas who became one of my best friends trained directly under mentzer, and was in his training vids, talked about him every time we worked out. He was a goat.
You’re talking about Marcus. I’ve known him for years. Good man.
One of my favorite body builders him and Tom Platz
Tom still Alive 👍🏻👍🏻
As an intermediate lifter I made my all time greatest gains using Mike‘s training principles👍
Overtrainjng is very easy to do. Not a bodybuilder but training my abs and I Discovered that impatience can manifest itself as overtraining.
Also chronic joint issues, tendonitis, and of course odd injuries
Overtraining is actually VERY difficult to do. Lol
Especially with your abs which are a small muscle group that is an endurance muscle. Your abdominal muscles are literally stabilizing your trunk, and holding your organs in place 24/7.
What a clear minded and intelligent fellow
Train hard, Rest harder !
Rest doesn't get enough credit! That's when you actually grow ✔️
@@jkroemer2685
That goes for your mental health as well
This man was decades ahead of the curve. To this day we still have guys who stick to 4-6 hours of intense training daily to reach "peak physique".
Yes, those guys are called Mr Olympias
I met and got to know him in 74 when he started training for mr america. At that time he was working full body 3 times a week. 2 to 3 sets per bodypart. Of course he was genetically gifted but I never saw anyone at that time grow so big so fast. Discusing his workout philosophy with him was like getting a college lecture in physiology..
So cool of you to share that story. I wish I (and others) had the prescience to have videotaped him back in the day.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE John you are absolutely right.Although at the time we all got so used to seeing him, Not getting Mike and his brother Ray on film is something I always regretted later on.
He looked way better as a post pro competitor than any other. 🤔
Are you sure about that? He died at 50. He smoked and did meth his whole career.
@@RMokros psyop to discredit his work.
@@RMokros wow he had fun in life and still somehow looked better than everyone? crazy
@@RMokros Arnold smoked and was drinking alcohol in his morning coffee before workouts every day. You can do that with just about any of these guys from that era lol. Mike died cause of a heart disease that ran in his family. People like you just spout that shit about his personal life because you don't like that he was smarter than your favorite guy.
He was ahead of
His time ..
Mike was beyond his years, his logic still holds water because the body can only take a certain amount of stress. Rest and recreation are necessary to develop your muscles.
I train 3 days a week .. 50 mins .
Just amazing and got more gain that never got while training 5 years / 5 days a week
PLEASE SEND YOUR WORKOUT ROUTINE, I NEED TO GET BIG AND STRONG BECAUSE I AM GETTING ABSOLUTELY MAN HANDLED AT WRESTLING. PLEASE BROOOO
Wow. Mike is brilliant,articulate and an OG.
I've started his training method. I'm doing 1 set, 4 exercises per session every 4 days. It takes me 10 minutes to complete. 👍
This is how I've been training the last 3 years. Train about 4 to 4 and a half hours a week. Went from 165lbs (75kg) to 205 lbs (93kg) and much much stronger now. Before that I over-trained and was always dealing with some injury or pain. Dont try to grind through the pain and increase the weight a little more slowly. The gains will come, save yourself all the crap that held me back for so long.
Matt?
Exactly what I've mentioned to people. I lifted religiously for 10 years, and made my biggest gains, with working out less. I work out 30 minutes, 3-4 times a week right now
So what's your work out routing look like?
I do around 40 mins 4 maybe 5 times a week if I'm bored
I followed Mentzer"s training for years and he was a monster.
This man sounds very experienced and massively sure of himself. I love it!!!
His body building book was a good book
I agree. More intense and less training time improves your recovery time. This recovery time increases muscle growth.
This is 100% facts,and the ppl that say overtraining is not real blows my mind,obviously If ur enhanced that's going to help, but recovery is Paramount in building muscle
This dude was enhanced 2 hours a week is suboptimal af for bodybuilding or strength training.
Intelligent body builder
I will say this, im a 41 year old guy who worked out for a year straight. No roids, no supplements or anything. Just healthy eating and protein shakes. Two hours per workout, 5 to 6 times a week and i saw improvement but very little in my opinion based on the work i put in. Found some of Mikes videos and decided to try his ideas and i can honestly say, for me they are working. Recovery is half of muscle building as i am now learning, especially for guys in my age group doing it naturally. Workout the chosen muscle group until failure and soreness then rest it for 3 days then do it again. You will be surprised
Mentzer is the true winner of the 1980 Mr. Olympia!! Arnold won through bodybuilding politics!!
Mike is the man
When I learned about MIKE MENTZER's training methods everything changed for me. I no longer have anxiety to get to the gym. 2 Hours per week is more then enough if you make th3m efficient.
He was like a mystical character in the bodybuilding world, RIP Legend 🙏🏻
Mike Mentzer deserved both the 1979 and 1980 Mr. Olympia wins but his training principles went against what Joe Weider said and what Arnold did so they prevented him from rightfully winning the Olympia.
I’ve noticed how much good a rest day helps me. But still stay on the meal plan!
Hey man, biggest tip for diet is to chug water when ur hungry
Keep grindin
food is everything
@@marcthebarber239 yeah if you want to shrivel up like a girly man
Rest days are when you grow 👍
just do maint. on non-lift days or you'll start to chub up.
I'm using his method.. working my muscle groups to failure, allowing the time to heal short hard routines to complete failure. Six months in and I've gotten results my pullups my díps everything this works his method is working for what I want to do. this works for every body type you are trying to achieve. Just be mindful of your diet what you eat is important. But I promise you this works. 💯
Mike Menzer is The Real Legend That Changed The Concept of Training in Bodybuilding.
"QuaLity not quantity" It wont get stale, youLL feeL better and youLL Recover better
I agree with that. If you train 7h a week, why not train 14h a week. I usually train 45min to 1h and if close to 1h I feel exhausted (not in a good way). 45min is effective to me and maybe 30min would be even better.
I believe less is better if done properly.
Mike Mentzer was a very wise guy
If you only train two hours a week, why just 30 mins per week?
The law of least effort.
Sounds like a bright man
Wow I needed this guys awesome it’s not about the length of the work but the quality
And the gear lol
Broo. Steroids.
He sounds so well informed and educated.
Bodybuilders are smart people never underestimate them.
what's the correlation? big muscles, big brains? I don't get it. Plenty of idiot to go round.
I believe this. I worked out for years to get a very good physique but now I can't because I work a lot and the jobs very physical. Surprisingly though in 6 months I still look the same but more cut and I realized it's because I utilize each muscle group daily from wor alone.
There's a huge difference in the traning volume you have to do for maintaining versus growing. Maintaining requires MUCH less volume than growing. So it checks out.
It’s not what you do it’s how you do it.
The man, the myth, the legend! Both Mentzer brothers were brilliant men.
Both died before age 50. Very sad.
@@peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube bad genes on their part.
This is a smart, realistic and rational man.
Mike Mentzer. Night of Champions 1980. One of the best physiques of all time at that contest. Way ahead of the curve.
Wasn’t the NOC (New York) in 1979?
He was trained by Arthur Jones HIT program. I met Mike in 78 and was very impressive.
Is that the program he's talking about there? 2 hours per week
@@harshtruthengineer1382 Yep! Pretty much. Look up Nautilis and Arthur Jones. I remember buying a copy of The Nautilus Bodybuilding Book in October of 1989, a month before turning eighteen. I've used HIT principles ever since. When you see the results you get for comparitively little time you'll never want to go back to being a 'gym slave' again. The flip side of this is that HIT really is VERY high intensity. It bloody hurts.
@@damianreid2452 cheers mate I appreciate the advice 👍
I actually train 35-45 min 5 times a week, and feeling very good.
Yea for my body it's the same. One or two muscle groups are exhausted in 30 mins and after 5 times of that a week all groups are covered.
Split your weekly sets per muscle group into 2 sessions a week, rather than hit one muscle group once a week. The science has proven undoubtedly through multiple studies that 2x a week is better than 1x, volume equated
@@Charles-pf7zy okay thanks , would you drop me link for research articles , becouse there is to many tiktokers going gym 2months and giving advice. I wouldnt mind go 2 days , but I need more volume as my job is sitting every day for 7-8 hours.
@@Charles-pf7zy That works for me as well Charles. I am 52 and need more rest but still feel good with 3 workouts a week. I do a M//W/F schedule with 2 workouts that alternate. So one week has one workout twice and the other once. Then the following week it flip flops.
Based same here, in my first 8 months of training i trained 1 hour 30 mins, did 20 sets a day, it was too much. I always overtrained, and felt exhausted and miserable. I was growing since i was new but i couldve grown way more if i wouldve started doing low volume at the start. Now i train 40 mins a day just like you and i feel like im growing weekly! If your intensity is at max, 40 mins is plenty, literally training more than an hour is too much if youre training hard, if you think 1 hour isnt enough, youre just simply not training hard enough.
It’s always those idiots who come gym 7 days week thinking they going to gain muscle but all u need is 2/3 hours a week of hardcore training
This. For example, if you do 4-split like
1. upper body push
2. upper body pull
3. lower body push
4. lower body pull
you can easily work the respective muscle groups to a total fatigue in a 30 min workout. Even once per week is sufficient, in which case it means 2h of weekly training in total.
Perfect fucking physique in other words work smarter not harder he is the father of heavy duty training and actually it's perfect imp
30mins a session is actually plenty if you put down the cell and only rest 30secs in-between sets. Can bang a lot out just have to get savage on that ass
correct!
Yeah I do that! I always have sore muscles the next day by training 30-40 min
100% true!
Maybe for someone on PEDs and very fast recovery genetics. This will not work for everyone though.
@@dinnybam2057 of course it will work just not as good
1980 Mr Olympia 😞
Screw the Weiders and their politics. Wankers.
He was robbed 😠
He's not wrong. For real I'm injured right now and only able to work out a little and I'm not losing muscle infact o feel like I'm growing
This mentality is really helping me out lately. He really was a very smart person.
One of Mike's analogies was look at the body of a sprinter and a long distance runner. There's usually a significant amount of muscle on a sprinter compared to the slim physique of a distance runner.
Bro knew his body and trained according to that
Totally agree. I workout 4 consecutive days a week for 30-40min high intensity no rest. 👊🏾💥💪🏾
and 3 consecutive off days? i do 4 days a week but monday tuesday, thursday friday.
@@sebastianconstantin5176 which days you work and which days you rest in a week can you tell please
@@srjjjjnnvcccv I work monday tuesday, Wednesday off, thursday and friday work, weekend off.
@@sebastianconstantin5176 ok bro thanks 👍
As a working man I did not have alot of time to train. I learned the Mike Mentzer way! I trained 1.5 hr 3 times a week! I worked out each body part twice a week. I did no more than 3 sets per body part! I trained from 7 to 15 reps to failure, every set! It took me about 10 years to go from a skinny kid 160 lbs to 230 lbs. and I got big! Resting, eating & supplements is a huge part of it. This Man was right!
What a legend Mike was
Great advise! The controlled stress is called Hormesis. By creating a controlled stress, you create a healing response in the body making all out cells stronger and creating longevity in your health span
yeah, but other's did differently and had similar or much better results. He was a bit "blocky" for back then, although I really like his physique. Lee and Arnold had nice athletic v-tapers.
Through many years of trial and error I realised that I only need to spend 2 hours a week on upper body and 2 hours on lower body and I respond very well to it. I try to hit every muscle in the gym and don't prioritise any particular movement. It's crazy how much better I feel not killing myself and not creating tight muscles and imbalances in my body. The most important part of working out is definitely rest. But you have to go hard when you do workout.
Mentzer is the man. Been following his philosophy now for three months. Literally have better results in three months than the last 15 years of jumping from program to program.
He had a very good physique. Triceps were Superb..!
When your knowledge displays your mastery of your art...well spoken sir. Kudos
This man here was a Prodidy! Mike was way ahead of his time, he studied the muscles function and work.
_"Look at that picture."_
Interviewer low-key simping. Good.
Mike Mentzer
When brains met braun
If I remember right he was also very experimental on his PED usage.
Do your remember if he said specifically what he was doing differently?
He trained high intensity. He goes back to another set before he stops hearing his blood pumping in his head. I read about him in muscle development mag a long time ago. I think he died from heart failure at age 49. It’s not a easy lifestyle.
He was on PEDs for sure.
@@peskylogicchillinsky6007Futube GAWDDAMN
@@brandoncouriwilliams8491 yeah that’s young to me
Mike Mentzer is the Vincent Van Gogh of the Fitness world. We only appreciated thier work when they were gone.
Interesting comparison. Thanks for your post.
The Man...Thank you
Facts. I train 45 min 5 days a week. Flawless! Simple easy. More IS NOT BETTER!
This is actually a very good point. Good on you for making it
That means you train even more than he did. He only did 2 hours a week. Four 30 minute workouts.
No offense, but Mike would say that you're grossly overtrained. I have been studying his ideas since 1981.
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329 keep studying bud! The only gross one is you with your outdated views and opinions. 👍🏼
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329 There is a huge body of evidence supporting the devastating consequences of overtraining as a natural. However Mike was able to make the gains he did with so little training due to his ground breaking stacking protocols. He was a very smart man and a huge loss to the world and his family
Very articulate in his speech 👏👏
Gym bro who are unfamiliar with the Mike Mentzer system training can refer to the following:
Do one warm up set with a moderate weight, and then another set with a heavy weight you can only lift for up to six reps with MAX energy output.
Here are few keys:
1. Paying attention to both concentric and eccentric phase of every reps.
2. Once the fully contracted position is reached, pause momentarily before returning to the retracted position.
3. Slowly lower the weight through the eccentric (negative) phase until the muscle is fully extended.
The last rep will make you look like Thanos-skinned Captain America pulling the helicopter.
Your muscle soreness will last for 3-4 days. Do not train other muscle groups during these 3-4 days. Get enough rest and eat enough nutrients to fully nourish your muscles.
Train this way and you'll look bigger and beat your PR every time you get back to the gym.
Shit made for tren bois
I totally agree with Mike's principles in body building. 💪
Such a difference in body builders when they get older from then too now, this guy still has mass looks healthy everyone looks horrible when they get older
@The RealMathilda Too many drug cocktails and High cholesterol from excessive egg intake usually.
@The RealMathilda That’s simply not true. Cholesterol is one of the major risk factors for heart disease. I’m not sure where you got that information but you should read from more than one or two sources 👊
@@XrayTheMyth23 he’s right, u got an outdated/false data about cholesterol, maybe u need an update
“cutting-edge science” is a very nice way to say that whatever new data you are using has not been repeated or stood over a long period of time.
Cholesterol is highly associated with heart disease, Dr. Carvalho from Nutrition Made Simple did a good breakdown of some of the misinformation on this subject.
@The RealMathilda No the ldl cholesterol theories are usually from the keto people. After checking out Dr Attia, I have to say i’m not fan. For many reasons I don’t believe he has the correct qualifications to speak as definitively as he does as he does not have a specialization in nutritional science or anthropology which are the most relevant fields in my opinion. He is also an advocate for low carb diets and has worked with some other famous low carb authors which makes me wonder how he got into this grouping with little experience in the specialty. Many of his comment sections seem to be debunking or debating his information that he is providing which indicates to me he is either misinformed or not showing enough evidence for his claims. I also am not a fan of paywalling medical information when there is many free resources that are transparent and don’t rely on FOMO and sunk-costing your audience.
Far ahead of his time
This is the ultimate fitness red pill.
I will change a lot about my view on working out.
This Video Introduced Mike Mentzer to Me❤
We appreciate Your Great Work,John Little!
I can't see anything lacking,, he looked really solid. vary healthy.
Give it a moment Old Skool BodyBuilding is gonna show up all pissed
Report him for harassment & being a "troll."
I read 1 of his books. He inspired me a lot when i started getting into weight lifting. What he said makes so much sense.
Waaaaaay ahead of his time!
I totally understand rest is important but he had some unique genetics most people and almost all other body builders couldn't get to that stage just training 2 hours a week
Dont forget more importantly steroids😅