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  • TRIANGLE STRATEGY Benedict's Ending (Cutscene)
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  • @YamatufaGaming
    @YamatufaGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @francescobonaiuti6987
    @francescobonaiuti6987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    33:30 Benedict's smile... Really an interesting ending...

  • @sieglinde_
    @sieglinde_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This was the first ending I got. I wasn't a big fan of Benedict till the end when I felt like he really started to shine.

    • @tantctantzerchyun8869
      @tantctantzerchyun8869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I've got the same ending my first playthru. I can't irresponsibly forsake my people and I already knew Hysante is up to no good..

    • @RichSmithson
      @RichSmithson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tantctantzerchyun8869 Same. Roland was my boy till he wanted to surrender the kingdom to Hyzante.

    • @rickardedman8836
      @rickardedman8836 ปีที่แล้ว

      My route was 1. Frederica (going to the fabled Centralia with the Roselle), 2. Golden Route, everyone wins, 3. Roland (I did not like that ending, like WTF? Slavery is ok) 4. Benedict (Basically where we're at now, capitalism, or where Norzelia is heading to)

  • @txgoldrush
    @txgoldrush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Extreme Utility can allow for Liberty but at the cost of Morality. This is why Fredrica joins you but Roland doesn't. And this ending depicts the result.

  • @loganswalk8621
    @loganswalk8621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I like Benedict's character all through I wish for more flashbacks on the salt-iron war but he's a character shaped by war and lost and that's why he's such a pragmatist he wishes to end any conflict as quickly as possible even if it means doing morally dubious actions such as flooding the city while yes destructive would've ended with less casualties than years of warfare.
    But he's also one bound to the past wishing to persevere the oaths he made long ago and unwilling to let go likely because he doesn't want the sacrifices of the past to go to waste.

  • @OWRen5432
    @OWRen5432 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The ending i went with, and i will always call it the BASED ending
    Benedict best character in the game

  • @adnansz8930
    @adnansz8930 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the ironic of this ending is Roland looks like he is care about rosellan while actualy his decision it's make rosellan as sacrifice (slave) for a peace.

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually worse, the rich and free thinker also get enslaved

  • @MetalGearRaxis
    @MetalGearRaxis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    18:41 God Frederica's voice actress turned in an amazing performance. You can hear all the desperate agony she's holding in in that one shallow breath as she comes to terms with the fact that she failed her people. The weight of an entire race on her shoulders and on her conscience forever :(

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She unironically became like the Hierophant, a beautiful puppet to be paraded around as a symbol but in reality scorned by her people for being the only one to live well while the taint of being branded as salt thieves will stain their souls for all eternity

  • @IngFede1
    @IngFede1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A clear metaphor of capitalism vs socialism. The path with Aesfrost leads to a free economy, and it also frees the rosellan, but the free market is an indomitable beast and tends to amass wealth only for some and to impoverish the others. An imperial-religious system like Hyzante involved horrendous racial crimes but afforded loyal citizens protections derived from the salt monopoly. There are no absolute good and bad and all choices involve sacrifices. Beautifully written.

  • @RichSmithson
    @RichSmithson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    65 hours later and this is the ending i got. I played the game completely blind and didn't even realise there was a "golden path" till i had finished. Going through the game and learning everything you do from the npc's and the notes, i realised Hyzante were the bigger enemy then the Aesfrosti were. That their tax and monopoly on Salt was causing endless wars, and their slavery of a race of people to mine the salt was far worse then anything Gustadolph had done. I also couldn't believe Roland wanted to give up his kingdom so Hyzante could come in and take over. I would have agreed to him giving Hyzante the salt mine, but the entire kingdom was insane. Roland was so obsessed with getting back at Gustadolph, he was prepared to surrender to an even worse power.
    Im probably going to play through again with New Game + and see who else i can recruit and go another path. This time i think il surrender Roland to Gustadolp in the beginning of the game LOL.

  • @e.c7667
    @e.c7667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The picture at the end speaks volumes of this entire route.

  • @TheElementsAreWithMe
    @TheElementsAreWithMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I forgot to comment on this ending. The good of this ending: The Roselle are free , Salt is no longer a power struggle, and the heroes can do much more good for Nozella within the kingdom of Glenbrook then they can anywhere else. The Bad side, Roland becomes an eventual threat, thanks to Seranoa's idea of a "fair" rule as king, the unfortunate souls suffer more than ever, and both Gustodoph and Idore still draw breath. So yeah kind of in the fence with this timeline.

    • @icecoldnut5152
      @icecoldnut5152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I still can’t imagine Roland’s ending being better, like dude straight up wanted to give idore complete power

    • @sushi287
      @sushi287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@icecoldnut5152 Roland was literally encouraging slavery, and Frederica just wanted to abandon Norzelia entirely for like 50 people
      This path is definitely the most logical (other than the golden route, obviously)

    • @abelperez1434
      @abelperez1434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah all I could think of was that Roland was the biggest fool and unfit to be king when he said we should surrender to Hyzante. If Serenoa knew of this town in need he would definitely fix it.

    • @RichSmithson
      @RichSmithson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@icecoldnut5152 Roland was blinded by rage and wanted to get back at Gustadolph no matter the cost. There was no way i was siding with him after everything you learn about the Hyzantians. They were way worse then the Aesfrosti altho they were assholes too, just not as bad IMO.

    • @fukunaga-kane
      @fukunaga-kane ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sushi287 Let’s be real, are we really going to ignore all the havoc that’s happening (the obvious one is war) just because it’s righteous to do so (morality)? Even if more blood is to be shed?

  • @baberalla6890
    @baberalla6890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    tht smug look on Benedict's face at the end card card X'DDD. And poor Frederica, despite being queen, there's no crown or throne/chair for her to sit???

    • @sootythunder3111
      @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hell of a lot better then Roland’s ending, she has to shave her hair and she is going around trying to preach about the lies of the goddess and people throw stones at her trying to chase her out of town

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sootythunder3111 Well if there is any small consolation, if word ever got out she is both a Roselle AND an Aesfrosti and last child of the previous Archduke, the slaves will turn to her as a symbol of a new goddess, one that will cause all of the salt to burn away and the sinfulness of it. They cannot kill her or they make her a martyr, they will not repress her voice to the downtrodden who turn to the flicker of light for a new truth.
      In that timeline it will be religous turmoil, superstition to preserve peace vs the fervor of people who lost their culture and pride to these false peacekeepers. A Holy War would come.

    • @sootythunder3111
      @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrAsaqe I think your romanticized this a bit much, remember the Roselle in the source pretty much become indoctrinated through years of cruelty and hard labor, slave uprising make for good stories however if one’s enslavement is worked into religion and that hard work and death through while devoutly working to absolve your sins and lead to a purified rebirth in a theocratic society? I think you underestimate how nightmarishly effective this would be to keep a populace enslaved and unwilling to leave

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sootythunder3111 You are talking about a freshly inducted population still sore and upset about the fate given to them. The reason why Rosellan indoctrination worked was because there was no outside influence and if Frederica considers suicidal martyrdom as equally idolized as being worthy of the paradise. How can Hyzante spin this if worker shortages requires them to the draw from the faithful because some heretic believing in Frederica's vision of Centralia decided to take their own life with countless miners lost?
      The sad reality is now you don't only have the Roselle to count for but the Aesfrost loyal to the country who saw their archive destroyed and the final sacrifice of Svarog as well Royalists angry at Roland taking the worst option get thrown in the same mining pit resentful of the fate given to them and having to work alongside the Roselle who they will take their frustrations out on. Maybe Frederica's message will get to them, maybe not. You could segregate the slaves but that is another set of problems.

    • @sootythunder3111
      @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MrAsaqe let’s just agree that Roland’s ending is just garbage, out of the 3 “normal” endings really only Benedict’s is the one that can be even slightly construed as good,
      I mean I love Frederica but on a macro scale just up and abandoning your nation to endlessly war? Odds are the wars would end with both Hyzante and Aesfrost imploding on themselves under the stress of endless war and plunge the whole region into a new dark age, I can get wanting to save her people but while playing as Seronoa I could not abandon the people I was entrusted to lead and protect at castle wolffort, I couldn’t abide by Hyzante theocratic totalitarianism, and I begrudgingly sided with Aesfrost and became king

  • @GreyTwilight3993
    @GreyTwilight3993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This ending is very much like Delita's path in FFTactic. It would be perfect if this route ending end with Serenoa got stabbed by Frederica due to the Rosellan struggle life. lol

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or Cordelia who is bitter and angry at how her brother left her to fend for herself with someone like Gustadolph who will keep her as nothing than a plaything, a little trophy of his victory.

    • @flintson2268
      @flintson2268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh

    • @TheRaider1815
      @TheRaider1815 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MrAsaqe it is strange how little Roland seems to care for Cordelia.... you can do Frederica's ending without ever recruiting Cordelia, which means that Roland just abandons her to die (or worse) in a bloody civil war

  • @VideoGaming4Dummies
    @VideoGaming4Dummies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This kinda feels like a neutral ending to me. With Roland plotting to overthrow Serenoa, it feels like war will just begin anew sooner or later.

    • @jahmelhemsworth3087
      @jahmelhemsworth3087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My thoughts exactly! Would make for a great setup for triangle strategy 2

    • @flintson2268
      @flintson2268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean I don't think hel go to war right away they're final promise was for Roland to watch over and guide him

  • @pica2754
    @pica2754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yeah the roselle are free but not thriving. It seems like the only ones prospering are the nobles and merchants. To me it seems like opening up the salt trade wasn't enough because regular people didn't benefit from it. It seems like Roland might lead a revolt.

  • @Maxwell_Ignitus
    @Maxwell_Ignitus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wow, thanks for making this video. I did the Frederica ending and I can’t bring myself to do this ending or Roland’s, both just seem like such bad options. I’m gonna go for the golden/true ending, I wish you luck on the rest of your triangle strategy journey

    • @YamatufaGaming
      @YamatufaGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and thanks for watching it :)

    • @sootythunder3111
      @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      While I love Frederica i could not go forward with her plan, her plan requires Seronoa to abandon the people he presides over as lord abandoning them with a war on the horizon.
      And let’s be honest if this was real as King Seronoa could have create an expedition to search for the Roselian homeland and if found could have had it reserved for them after the war and his rule was secure
      I mean by siding with Aesfrost he does wind up liberating the slaves, the only difference is that he now has the resources to protect them
      The divide for Benedict and Frederica ending is created for the sake of contrivance

    • @miguelgomez2458
      @miguelgomez2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sootythunder3111 i agree

    • @icecoldnut5152
      @icecoldnut5152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let’s all just agree roland had the worst idea lmao

  • @dee6561
    @dee6561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wtf Idore just strolls in

  • @rizadon18
    @rizadon18 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Based ending, Benedict did nothing wrong

  • @TenOfTwenty
    @TenOfTwenty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This ending was the one I chose because honestly Benedict has the most concrete plan but honestly, I don't understand it. I don't get how opening the salt trade allowed mass poverty and famine. Salt has really nothing to do with grain production and Glenbrook is depicted as a feudalistic. Meaning more people would be economically and socially better off than before. Whatever, still better than Rolands delusional idiotic plan and Federica's goodhearted idiotic plan. I'll go for the Golden Ending next.

    • @pica2754
      @pica2754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I don't understand it either. The golden ending seems like the truly best one. It seems like seranoa isn't doing enough to help these people. It even seems like Roland will lead a revolt.

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretty sure the idea is that Serenoa becomes content with the status quo despite amassing riches from salt trade. In other words, he doesn't do enough to alleviate poverty etc.

    • @andrewmiller4116
      @andrewmiller4116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because that’s what happens in a free market, those with power can easily succeed and those put in unfortunate positions will struggle

    • @TenOfTwenty
      @TenOfTwenty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewmiller4116 Compared to Feudalism? Regardless of someone's beliefs on economic policy, the free market is still a better option than a peasant being tied to their land and forced to give up a large percentage of their harvest each year.

    • @basilofgoodwishes4138
      @basilofgoodwishes4138 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TenOfTwenty Capitalism is not much better than feudalism and the only reason that feudalism is gone is due to it not being profitable in comparison to capitalism and yet capitalism made initially everything worse and in many countries it still does.
      Climate change is the result of unchecked capitalism as the industrial owners refuse to change their policies to maximize profit at the expense of the world.
      Also Feudalism is argued to be not a thing and is not the entirety of the middle ages, heck it was a step up from the slave economy of old.

  • @Violetenist
    @Violetenist ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the ending honestly surprised me with how they ended up going "freedom and free market kinda bad" instead of a healthy social enlightened monarchy or hell even a closer to socialist aligned monarchy if you include how Serenoas ideals are changed and growing the more the game goes on to garner sympathy by dialogue and his thoughts, at the very least he can most likely implement stronger social safety nets and projects to improve not only Roselle but others lives if the economy is already improving, not to mention itll circulate to more activity that im even more surprised Benedict said "no can do lol".

    • @geontavares1789
      @geontavares1789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The need to make this "freedom and free market bad" to make this ending not so good and perfect. They had to put something "bad" in this ending, but to me, doesn't make any sense. Just when literally everyone get access to the salt.. the poverty rises?? wtf

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because only the rich and established can actually exploit the situation, remember what happened in Glenbrook was the poor suffered even more as seen with the aid distribution leading to poor people being killed.
      Meanwhile the Roselle never rebelled in this ending, they were told they will no longer work at the source and the only organization that would stand up for them was disbanded with its leaders dead. Meanwhile Frederica is allowed to remain in power as a result of a political marriage but remains a powerless figurehead
      And while not mentioned, Svarog isn't mentioned but it was implied he was tried for salt smuggling and sentenced for execution not unlike how Dragan was quietly murdered
      So while the imperfect system is no longer sustained by scapegoats, it has also led to a prosperous era where the weak are trampled on with the only saving grace being Roland supported by Idore who now was given proof of how without Hyzante's teachings that Norzelia is doomed for conflict

  • @pakyip9267
    @pakyip9267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks. Enjoying both endings so far. Seems Frederica's ending aligned with freedom. Whereas Benedict more with utility side of things, like taking the salt into their own hands. 👐😂

  • @lock8030
    @lock8030 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Shocks me that people believe this ending isn't too bad. In truth, yes Serenoa becomes king but at what cost? He becomes a puppet of Benedict's desire to strengthen the Wolfort name and Gustadolph's ambitions. People still suffer under Serenoa's reign and little change is done. Yes, the idea of being able to rise in societal status through skill is incorporated but that simply leaves those in dire situations stuck in poverty and despair. The reality is not everybody will truly have the opportunity to take advantage of this system simply due to upbringing and unforseen circumstances. This ending is the emphasis of empty promises made. It's all for show. Besides the Golden Ending which is clearly perfect, Frederica's ending is the only one I can relatively entertain. You at least succeed in saving a subjugated population. Here, you achieve nothing.

    • @gregredden5090
      @gregredden5090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree with your assessment. Factoring in Roland’s revolt along with Gustadolph still alive, nothing really gets any better in this ending. It doesn’t really matter if everyone is aligned at the moment, Gustadolph would make a play for all of Norzelia eventually. Too much of a cunning snake lol.

    • @geontavares1789
      @geontavares1789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think this ending isn't too bad. It's literally the best ending if we compared to the another 2 routes.

    • @geontavares1789
      @geontavares1789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      haha Frederica it's literally the worse ending. WTF

  • @Thecrummer62891
    @Thecrummer62891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks so much for this. It's impossible to find. And I still can't find Roland's ending.

    • @YamatufaGaming
      @YamatufaGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont know why but i got Problems to unlock the roland ending in my first playthrough but right now im playing new game plus for the golden route and i try to get there roland too if it works.

  • @haydomo1069
    @haydomo1069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was my first ending, I felt pretty pleased with it since is their TRULY a world where no one suffers? ✨

  • @flintson2268
    @flintson2268 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got this just now

  • @rhysegozun
    @rhysegozun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I chose Frederica's ending though it may have ended bitter sweet at least it was more conclusive than this. Havent seen anyone post the Roland ending yet and my stomach churns on how horrid things will go out.

    • @YamatufaGaming
      @YamatufaGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I tryed to get roland ending but it dont work on my first playthrough i try everything but i dont get it. Right now im on New game + for the perfect golden route + i hope to get roland ending there as well.

    • @leonakalionking
      @leonakalionking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda f'd up as well to be honest, and Frederica's fate is damn sad......😭

  • @TheJonaGaze
    @TheJonaGaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t watched the whole video yet, my thoughts will follow in a reply. I had to stop at 18:25 because that line is such a tragic irony. “Murder is a grievous sin, even if it is done in the name of one’s family.” To me, the quote depicts this Norzelia as feudal as ever, especially with key characters like Lyla and Gustadolph still containing some inkling of desire rooted in their old ways. Unification and peace might have been the vision, but I think it’s skewed in its visualization. Murder, whether it be justified by defensive means or not, is at the core of this ending in particular. The epilogue title, “The Endless Road” makes me think about the futility of feudalism, and how it will indeed come to an end at some point.

    • @TheJonaGaze
      @TheJonaGaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think in all of the other endings, Benedict is broken, emotionally and mentally. I’m not a fan of his response in the golden route. His line, “I refuse,” should have ended there, and not the “I refuse to leave house Wolffort…” too cheesy, but I definitely understand that it caters to the cliche of the “true” ending.
      In this ending in particular, I think Benedict is still as broken as he is in the other 2 alternate endings. He may have gotten what he wanted, like he confesses in the graveyard scene, but at costs of major sacrifice that was decided on the ambiguity of “justice.”
      Roland’s arch is fantastic, it really lends itself well to what he would have done should the ending gone his way. That Idore cameo is WILD. They are certainly conspiring together, which really makes me think even more about the title of the epilogue “The Endless Road.” In this ending, I assume peace will only be held for a bittersweet moment.
      Of all the ending portraits, this one goes hard. It’s the only one where a stern look is held. Benedict smiles, of course. Frederica holds one, I imagine, out of spite for what has been done-or the lack thereof-for the Roselle. What’s most curious is why does Serenoa hold one? He looks badass like a strong headed king, and maybe even bares some resemblance to Lord Symon. Though, I think it’s a front that he keeps to display his “conviction,” and a very fortified look at that. Makes me think about Roland’s remark in the true ending where he comments on how Serenoa is a true leader as he didn’t need to rely on the Scales of Conviction.
      I gotta say that all endings are so thought provoking, and I greatly appreciate that I am able to have a game with these kinds of experiences. The writers and creators of the games must have had a great time, albeit maybe with some phases where they had to pull out their own scales of conviction lol. I was so happy to hear about the official release date, and am happy to say a great game was delivered.
      Once again, and lastly to say, thank you for uploading. I enjoyed watching these videos thoroughly, and am relieved that I don’t have to put in another 75 hours to figure out what I’m missing in all the other routes. I hope you’re enjoying whatever game you play next!

    • @todd2.08
      @todd2.08 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not as bad Frederica’s ending

  • @EverythingIsNothing4
    @EverythingIsNothing4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    out of the 3 base endings, this seemed like the only choice that made sense lmfao.. i was tempted to follow frederica but i knew that this path would free rosellans from slavery as well while not abandoning the realm which feels silly.. the game trying so hard to paint this ending as negative just didn’t land like

    • @zackfair6791
      @zackfair6791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The game tried pretty hard to make me care about the roselle but i wasn't buying it.

    • @EverythingIsNothing4
      @EverythingIsNothing4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zackfair6791 you…. Didn’t care about a race of people that are enslaved solely bc of them being that race??? what the

    • @zackfair6791
      @zackfair6791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EverythingIsNothing4 Nah. The enslavement stuff is not my problem. Their race is irrelevant.

    • @zackfair6791
      @zackfair6791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@99splashing77 I liked Frederica, and it is imo unfortunate i had to part ways with her. I couldn't care less about a bunch of random people (roselle in this case) who are prisoners and forced to work.

    • @kaptinbarfbeerd1317
      @kaptinbarfbeerd1317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zackfair6791 I felt the same way. To me it seemed this ending would appeal to those who valued idealistic morality over practicality so I thought it was a bit contrived. Benedict had the right idea, and with serenoa crowned king, there would have been nothing stopping him leading an expedition to find the roselles homeland anyways but the game didn't show that possibility in order to pigeonhole the roselle into poverty. I mean, the ending mentioned a roselle killing a merchant but how likely is it the roselle would have killed the merchant out of necessity unless the merchant pointlessly escalated the situation or the roselle was bloodthirsty to begin with? The game was great but the writing at the end was a real let down. Especially Roland's suggestion which was absolutely bonkers.

  • @sorx767
    @sorx767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of all the votings only 2 swings in my favor, and this is not the one I choose but I'm fine with it
    Such are Life and politics

  • @MrLoneWoof
    @MrLoneWoof ปีที่แล้ว

    In the first half I though: well, this isn't so bad. Roland is gone, but things are looking ok. And then it got worse and worse.

  • @carvotheboss
    @carvotheboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can't stand that Roland goes on this whole "I hear the voices of the weak" tirade in this ending when in *his* ending he's a literal slave master that is put in charge of religiously persecuting anyone who doesn't bend the knee to Hyzante. I guess those voices wouldn't matter to him if they were Rosellan for some reason.
    Like seriously, he's hypocritical and delusional. But frankly the "bad" parts of this ending don't make much sense in the first place. Glenbrook is a literal breadbasket capable of mining both salt *and* iron, ruled over by people who have actually enacted social services and legislation meant to facilitate economic growth. How this somehow turns into widening inequality I don't understand. There's no reason this isn't a good ending.

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People like Patriatte and Sorsley would be forgiven for being shitheads because they can make money. People like Sycras and Svarog would likely meet certain death because their morals keep them from exploiting people meaninglessly. So you see grain exchanges bandy under corrupt cronyism and nobility justifying any kind of punitive action under meritocracy and the common man has nothing but violence as their option

  • @mitchelld3
    @mitchelld3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think its a little goofy that the writers try to shoehorn this ending in to being “the bad end”. This ending is almost entirely the same as gold end. Only diff is that guatodalph is alive, frederica is queen, and serenoa is king. I dont see why those facts should lead to tons of poverty and racism.
    Salt is cheaper, lower taxes, more opportunity and jobs, rosellan queen, and peace across the continent should equal prosperity. It felt like they were trying to make some sort of a rip on capitalism and freedom and they failed.

    • @linkachu1000
      @linkachu1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I don't consider it a bad end. The world IS better. Capitalism is better then Feudalism and Theocracy. It's still flawed but poverty had already been a major issue before.
      They ended the Slavery of the Roselle, salt is more accessible and Hyzantes Theocracy is dead.
      A lot of issues remain but Hyzantes reign ending leaves a lot of possibility for the future. Gustadolph's freedom is a flawed shallow ideal of freedom but freedom at all Is an improvement over the Theocracy and the rampant corruption Glenbrook had before.
      Norzelia can slowly and painfully take these gains and use them as a base to further improve over the generations much like we did in our own world.

    • @sootythunder3111
      @sootythunder3111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Honestly I was confused when I learned this WASNT the gold ending

    • @ragvald8835
      @ragvald8835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This. I went wth this ending, and Rolands cameo at the end is just so cringe... He blames Serenoa for a rosellan death, but in his own ending that guy would die in a mine much faster. This is the best ending from the basic 3, at least. Everyone is alive, duty fullfiled, salt is widely available, rosellan are free, and Serenoa is a king as a bonus. Yeah, there a poverty still, but it's still better than slavery. And Frederica's ending is too selfish, in my opinion - you save rosell, but everyone else in Norzelia is kinda f**ed, house Wolfort people included.

    • @MrAsaqe
      @MrAsaqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ragvald8835 Because the so called "freedom" was not freedom, the Rosellans are still living in abject poverty despite being given their freedoms and will unlikely ever prosper under the new rule of merchants than they did under Hyzante, here Roland show Idore the lack of morals in his faith from enslaving the Rosellans to keep the secret of salt mining to themselves and how Frederica is the only one who didn't got shafted.

    • @ragvald8835
      @ragvald8835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MrAsaqe i`m pretty sure Roland isn`t showing Idore anything, they`re working together now. It`s heavily implied that Roland is dissatisfied with Serenoa rule and is about to ally himself with Idore to overthrow Serenoa. Thus, cycle of war comes anew.
      As for rosellan and poverty, that`s just capitalism for you. Our world is exactly the same. As Benedict pointed out, there are laws in place to help them, but ultimately, it`s up to themselves to better their place in a world. That`s ain`t easy, of course, but they can seek jobs, stand up for themselves. Compare it to hopeless despair of eternal slavery Roland was about to give them.