Squidge does the best analysis for the viewer of any person in any country. I am South African... Lived in the UK and now Australia. I've seen first hand the "experts" but they don't come close to the in-depth analysis and passion he has for the deciphering of the games 🎉 he is also the most unbiased pundit ....something the Springboks game have struggled with for years when it comes to interpreting our style of play as being heavily criticised instead of appreciated. Thank you ❤
I absolutely love the South African team, and I’m a die hard Englishman. For me, I’ve said this before, Rassie is one of the greatest Rugby coaches in the world. The sheer desire to win is baked in to the national psyche. I’m not sure if because of the economic and social issues in SA over the last 30 odd years it’s helped to forge a super close and ‘family’ feel within the squad over the years, but it sure looks like it. People have been waffling about DuPont being the goat. I’m sitting there saying, what about the back-to-back winning New Zealand and South African rugby squads. What about all the players within those squads? It makes me chuckle 🤭
@@jordannangwala4608 it isn't a complete mystery to move country - you need to have skills/knowledge/attributes that are not available in that country (or not available at the level that you have) and match that with a company that requires them... one shortcut is to already be working for a company that is setting itself up in a new country and need someone trusted (attribute) and knowledgeable about the company and its culture to set up the new operation. If you are mobile (eg without kids or elderly relatives you have to care for), then you might be much more willing to take a posting like this than other colleagues. Best wishes!
Great guest this kid knows rugby I’m a former professional rugby analyst and he’s honestly better than me (probs why I also got fired 😢) but still he’s amazing
The collab I didn't know I needed. Well done boys! Quick one. How much do you think France (taking into account the new attack coach between the World Cup and 6N) were forced into changing their approach to the game because Dupont was no longer available for them? Antoine is ... Antoine. Nobody can argue he isn't one of the greatest players of his generation at the very least, and any coach who doesn't give a player like him the space or the tools to be himself isn't worth his salary. Also, when did the so-called "Dupont Law come into effect? Was it pre or post 6N? My memory is a bit fuzzy.
I get your point about no more than 5 phases. Ireland vs NZ in quarter finals had almost 20 phases in the last minute. However they never looked threatening, also never really crossed the advantage line. I don't believe a correct approach is putting a figure on how many phases, but rather to do something different when normal phase play of passing is not getting over the advantage line or building for an overlap etc.
That's the last play of the game in dead time it's not comparable to the rest of the match for loads of reasons. In the end it wasn't NZ defence or whatever reasons they gave both teams scored 3 trys. it came down to Jordi Barretts ankle
Add to the fact the All Blacks had 2 Yellow cards...a 38 year old 5/8 isn't breaking the line like Mo'unga did to set up his wingers,while Ireland had a 1 man advantage for 20 minutes
Would love an episode on games when they learnt something. Maybe defeats, or second half comebacks, when a new system came it. Think it would be great to hear about how players add something new to their game and where that comes from, especially with two who are so in touch with the modern game.
Squidge is the only non-South African analyst I've seen or heard who understands the Bok game. Everyone else is hung up on the forwards and interprets their tactics as solely dependent on set pieces - i.e. boring - when it's actually incredibly adaptive, dynamic and fascinating. He also looks at defence as much as attack, which most pundits don't do.
You guys should think about maybe collaborating with Kick Off and Kick Ons (KOKO with Drew Mitchell, Adam Ashley-Cooper and Matt Giteu) reckon Coley would really gel with Adam lol
@@LoveOfRugbyseriously hope you guys are being sarcastic , as it’s a collaboration I wouldn’t watch. The Aussie show is pathetic. Same as their team . Well that’s my opinion . 🏴
I keep hearing about how great this current French side is ("the greatest French side ever" I believe one kf the gentleman said) and it feels a little like being in the Twilight Zone. Were these people not watching in the 90's? In 1993, France toured to World Champions Australia and drew a teo match series 1-1. They then travelled to South Africa and New Zealand in 1994 and achived tour victories against both. THAT was a great French side. Historically, out of the first SEVEN world cups, France reached the Semi Final stage six times, advancing to the final thrice. Also, up until 2011, France regularly won 5/6 Nations tournaments. Now since 2011, France has only won ONE Six Nations. They've not progressed to a semi final even and they literally can't buy a win on tour. So how great is a side that hasn't progressed to the seminfinals in ages and have won only ONE Six Nations championship? I don't know, you might call me crazy, but there isn't much special about this Les Bleus side at all.
I've got to be honest a lot of this went over my head not sure if I represent the majority of fans in really wanting to know more about this stuff but just not being able to. I think I played in an era that was just before this stuff was developed and so need some hand holding. Like what they did on the 1014 TH-cam channel
There is technicality in physicality! The South African pack is routinely outweighed by their rivals, including England and Ireland, but they are better than these rivals because of their technical skills. Dan Cole knows this better than anyone 😅
Oh boy this can get long. So yeah, people like looking at pack weights or prop weights and then believe that a 140kg prop should dominate a 130kg prop; and assessment you correctly stated is not always true. So the first thing comes to technique; South African scrummagers have excellent technique, making them so hard to scrum against. And something people often forget is that a leaner prop is usually a fitter prop. So what happens to your 145kg tighthead on his sixth scrum? So fitness and technique, there's the first clue. The second "problem" facing them is the rest of guys are all huge - RG Snyman weighs as much as a prop does. Duane Vermeulen used to tip the scales at 120kg. PSDT is a beefy 115kg. So those props, they have a lot of energy in the system to work with. Then we get to how the props are used. Everybody remembers that incredible Richard Bands try and everybody loves seeing props run the ball. But seldom do you see Bok props do the same. Reason is simple - they want the props to keep their conditioning as long as possible, at least until the Bomb Squad forwards take to the field. South Africa plays the forward game better than any other nation, both currently and throughout history and the abive is just three points on how they achieve that.
Haven't SA lost 4 of the last 5 to the "less skilled" Ireland incl. at home with their most experienced team ever fielded and incl. in the RWC? Hmmm...
@@washerdryer3466 They haven't lost those tests in the pack, I can tell you that much. They also lost two by a kick - nothing to write home about. If Ireland could win something other than a 6N, the Boks would be worried. They can't, so they aren't. I'm half Irish by the way. Me name's not Dave.
Maybe he just wants to do things differently just like he has started, he doesn't want to be owned or sign any contract... No one can fire him now because he is independent. Sometimes we just need to respect other people's decisions.... obviously he doesn't want to be anyone's puppet and he is fine with that. He's channel keeps growing and he is happy with how he is growing as an individual.🎉🎉
Squidge is entertainment, but he does get stuff wrong. Englands opening try against Ireland was a result of Calvin Nash taking himself out of the game with a stupidly over the top hit. He was out of the game for the next few phases, and England scored down his wing. It might have been a shift they made in game with Ireland having a 6/2 bench and no real cover, but not since the world cup. Ireland last another back at 60 minutes can had Gibbson Park on the wingby the end
There is no top team that doesn't have a very physical element to their game 😅 top teams all have similar sized forwards it comes down to skill, heart and big match temperment. Height and weight in top packs is all pretty similar..
Too fond of their own egos. Tbey couldn’t find a way to stop themselves. So frustrating. In fairness Squidge is probably relishing the chance to understand two top level players perspectives on the technicalities of the game. He’s humble enough to listen and learn.
I'm a Bok supporter I listened to u guys and I think you guys did a awesome job but what do you think about world rugby wanting everyone to play like the all blacks and speeding up the game and don't let the rest of the world be themselves and play like what suits them and the end of it all u are just making it easier for New Zealand to be the beat everyone because fast running rugby only fits the all blaks and maybe Japan. I think that sucks
Where are England going .We will see at the end of year tour if they can beat both Sa and Nz at home.If they do that then I think they going the right way .
Have any these chaps been Watching rugby? Boks are most powerful forwards with an equally powerful second set of forwards and now with brown we are as good as kiwis with backs. And time to get better.
Squidge rugby engages in over-analysis. A lot of what he says is on the money, but at other times he tries to attribute set-play thinking and intention to open play flowing rugby. It's something that really irritates me watching his videos.
Fully agree. Sometimes stuff happens because stuff happens. It’s not always a super focused deliberate play or a deliberate structured defensive action that leads to an out come.
All hail our Squidge overlord
All hail!!! We must sacrifice our likes to the algorithm gods!
Squidge 10x better than tv pundits
Agree. He has brought so many non-rugby fans into the game than anyone else. A true legend of the game.
Stats for fans is very important. Squidge's 2019 final video changed my view on rugby. First time I saw the bigger picture
Squidge does the best analysis for the viewer of any person in any country. I am South African... Lived in the UK and now Australia. I've seen first hand the "experts" but they don't come close to the in-depth analysis and passion he has for the deciphering of the games 🎉 he is also the most unbiased pundit ....something the Springboks game have struggled with for years when it comes to interpreting our style of play as being heavily criticised instead of appreciated. Thank you ❤
How did you manage to live and thrive in all those countries
@@jordannangwala4608if he told us... he'd have to kill us ;-)
I absolutely love the South African team, and I’m a die hard Englishman. For me, I’ve said this before, Rassie is one of the greatest Rugby coaches in the world. The sheer desire to win is baked in to the national psyche. I’m not sure if because of the economic and social issues in SA over the last 30 odd years it’s helped to forge a super close and ‘family’ feel within the squad over the years, but it sure looks like it. People have been waffling about DuPont being the goat. I’m sitting there saying, what about the back-to-back winning New Zealand and South African rugby squads. What about all the players within those squads? It makes me chuckle 🤭
@@jordannangwala4608 it isn't a complete mystery to move country - you need to have skills/knowledge/attributes that are not available in that country (or not available at the level that you have) and match that with a company that requires them... one shortcut is to already be working for a company that is setting itself up in a new country and need someone trusted (attribute) and knowledgeable about the company and its culture to set up the new operation.
If you are mobile (eg without kids or elderly relatives you have to care for), then you might be much more willing to take a posting like this than other colleagues.
Best wishes!
What a show, what a guest. Thank you fellas.
Squidge, the man... The Legend! He should be given a segment on every major sport platform with full funding!
I remember the vid Rob did on SA winning the 2019wc and what he said about Ben Youngs. "I don't like this, I don't wanna be here" 😂
Well done Ben and Dan really great conversation with Squidge Rugby.
Especially big of them considering the personal and (IMO snarky) comments Squidge has made about them and their team mates.
Love the nerdy detail players go into for fans when encouraged by a fellow rugby nerd like Squidge.
Great episode.
Super insightful. Best podcast yet
A good episode. Dan Cole sounds like the calm old wise guy :)
this is golden content! Squidge needs to get more gigs on tv
brilliant. bloody brilliant. nuff said
The crossover we all needed
Great guest this kid knows rugby I’m a former professional rugby analyst and he’s honestly better than me (probs why I also got fired 😢) but still he’s amazing
Great podcast chaps, loving the show❤
Squidge should start his own broadcast of games with him commentating
He would, but the broadcasters keep copyright striking him😢
The collab I didn't know I needed. Well done boys!
Quick one.
How much do you think France (taking into account the new attack coach between the World Cup and 6N) were forced into changing their approach to the game because Dupont was no longer available for them? Antoine is ... Antoine. Nobody can argue he isn't one of the greatest players of his generation at the very least, and any coach who doesn't give a player like him the space or the tools to be himself isn't worth his salary.
Also, when did the so-called "Dupont Law come into effect? Was it pre or post 6N? My memory is a bit fuzzy.
I get your point about no more than 5 phases. Ireland vs NZ in quarter finals had almost 20 phases in the last minute. However they never looked threatening, also never really crossed the advantage line. I don't believe a correct approach is putting a figure on how many phases, but rather to do something different when normal phase play of passing is not getting over the advantage line or building for an overlap etc.
That's the last play of the game in dead time it's not comparable to the rest of the match for loads of reasons. In the end it wasn't NZ defence or whatever reasons they gave both teams scored 3 trys. it came down to Jordi Barretts ankle
It's called the gainline.
Add to the fact the All Blacks had 2 Yellow cards...a 38 year old 5/8 isn't breaking the line like Mo'unga did to set up his wingers,while Ireland had a 1 man advantage for 20 minutes
@@pixelpotato4874 Who's fault was that? The All Blacks were the most ill disciplined team at the World Cup.
@@DM-rp9ik 38phases and no results Seems like a waste of time
Squidge hardly got a word in
An international team will do well to sign up Squidge as a Technical consultant…
According to squidge hes been offered but hes declined.
Losing by a point in the QF doesn't mean France was a point away, they were still a semi final and final away
France was one N'Tamack away. Change my mind.
@@AntoineDumeige I can, he may have had a bad game, or he may have been injured in the first 30 seconds. Please change my mind.
Would love an episode on games when they learnt something. Maybe defeats, or second half comebacks, when a new system came it. Think it would be great to hear about how players add something new to their game and where that comes from, especially with two who are so in touch with the modern game.
Squidge is the only non-South African analyst I've seen or heard who understands the Bok game. Everyone else is hung up on the forwards and interprets their tactics as solely dependent on set pieces - i.e. boring - when it's actually incredibly adaptive, dynamic and fascinating. He also looks at defence as much as attack, which most pundits don't do.
Awesome show
You guys should think about maybe collaborating with Kick Off and Kick Ons (KOKO with Drew Mitchell, Adam Ashley-Cooper and Matt Giteu) reckon Coley would really gel with Adam lol
Would be very keen for this!
@@LoveOfRugbyseriously hope you guys are being sarcastic , as it’s a collaboration I wouldn’t watch. The Aussie show is pathetic. Same as their team . Well that’s my opinion . 🏴
@@kev63inuk it's a bit of fun mate, it's a great show
@@StarLeo_ I must of missed the best shows then Leo . But you’re right it’s only a bit of fun. Enjoy .
I keep hearing about how great this current French side is ("the greatest French side ever" I believe one kf the gentleman said) and it feels a little like being in the Twilight Zone. Were these people not watching in the 90's?
In 1993, France toured to World Champions Australia and drew a teo match series 1-1. They then travelled to South Africa and New Zealand in 1994 and achived tour victories against both. THAT was a great French side.
Historically, out of the first SEVEN world cups, France reached the Semi Final stage six times, advancing to the final thrice. Also, up until 2011, France regularly won 5/6 Nations tournaments.
Now since 2011, France has only won ONE Six Nations. They've not progressed to a semi final even and they literally can't buy a win on tour.
So how great is a side that hasn't progressed to the seminfinals in ages and have won only ONE Six Nations championship?
I don't know, you might call me crazy, but there isn't much special about this Les Bleus side at all.
What you say is true but the fact is they are a golden generation it's just that a.lot of other nations are also in a golden period.
@@MrCravendish yeah I suppose. 'Rising tide lifts all the boats' kind of thing.
This is fascinating - but I need Squidge's graphics to follow it all properly 😭
I would love more live stats feeds during the game. Would make it super engaging.
dan cole to make it to the WC 2031
squidge is an analytical genius
I've got to be honest a lot of this went over my head not sure if I represent the majority of fans in really wanting to know more about this stuff but just not being able to. I think I played in an era that was just before this stuff was developed and so need some hand holding. Like what they did on the 1014 TH-cam channel
There is technicality in physicality! The South African pack is routinely outweighed by their rivals, including England and Ireland, but they are better than these rivals because of their technical skills. Dan Cole knows this better than anyone 😅
The boks are a lot more lean than most teams at their weight so they're equal or bigger in pure muscle mass.
Oh boy this can get long. So yeah, people like looking at pack weights or prop weights and then believe that a 140kg prop should dominate a 130kg prop; and assessment you correctly stated is not always true.
So the first thing comes to technique; South African scrummagers have excellent technique, making them so hard to scrum against.
And something people often forget is that a leaner prop is usually a fitter prop. So what happens to your 145kg tighthead on his sixth scrum? So fitness and technique, there's the first clue.
The second "problem" facing them is the rest of guys are all huge - RG Snyman weighs as much as a prop does. Duane Vermeulen used to tip the scales at 120kg. PSDT is a beefy 115kg. So those props, they have a lot of energy in the system to work with.
Then we get to how the props are used. Everybody remembers that incredible Richard Bands try and everybody loves seeing props run the ball. But seldom do you see Bok props do the same. Reason is simple - they want the props to keep their conditioning as long as possible, at least until the Bomb Squad forwards take to the field.
South Africa plays the forward game better than any other nation, both currently and throughout history and the abive is just three points on how they achieve that.
Haven't SA lost 4 of the last 5 to the "less skilled" Ireland incl. at home with their most experienced team ever fielded and incl. in the RWC? Hmmm...
@@washerdryer3466 They haven't lost those tests in the pack, I can tell you that much. They also lost two by a kick - nothing to write home about. If Ireland could win something other than a 6N, the Boks would be worried. They can't, so they aren't.
I'm half Irish by the way. Me name's not Dave.
@@davesmith826 Lost 4 of the last 5. Stats don't lie. "They only lost by..." lol. SA arrogance and disresepct ...as per usual.
Nice!
More squidge please
Squide should host a rewatch party
I honestly don’t understand why Squidge hasn’t been picked up by WR and has his own show.
Maybe he just wants to do things differently just like he has started, he doesn't want to be owned or sign any contract... No one can fire him now because he is independent. Sometimes we just need to respect other people's decisions.... obviously he doesn't want to be anyone's puppet and he is fine with that. He's channel keeps growing and he is happy with how he is growing as an individual.🎉🎉
After Squarespace we need Converse Shoes to sponsor Squidge.
Great discussion and very informative 👍
Where can one find all the detailed stats?
Love this. Any chance squide can be funded to edit clips to illustrate the details?🎉
legend
Should have got Lawes on for this episode
You guys have a great podcast but you talk a lot over the guest
Saturday is made. Thanks.
guys, if you need somebody to explain rugby to, damn, let's grab a beer (or more)!
Good podcast but felt like Squidge didn’t get to speak enough. Nonetheless, love it
I always assumed Squidge was about 5’5. He actually looks pretty tall lol
What a shame Premiership rugby and UK broadcasters are so possessive about TV footage. I’d love to see Squidge analyse Prem games.
Squidge is entertainment, but he does get stuff wrong.
Englands opening try against Ireland was a result of Calvin Nash taking himself out of the game with a stupidly over the top hit. He was out of the game for the next few phases, and England scored down his wing.
It might have been a shift they made in game with Ireland having a 6/2 bench and no real cover, but not since the world cup. Ireland last another back at 60 minutes can had Gibbson Park on the wingby the end
So the soi sanpaku eyes still breathes...
😊😊😊😊
on screen graphics wuld have been good
LET YOUR GUEST SPEAK!!!!!!!
It’s so frustrating. They like the sounds of their own voice far too much. The guest has not been able to contribute anything of note at all.
Nice vid but i wish Squidge got the chance to speak more!
Staggered by the lack of pertinent questioning/curiosity and willingness to let the guest speak in this episode. Really tough listen.
There is no top team that doesn't have a very physical element to their game 😅 top teams all have similar sized forwards it comes down to skill, heart and big match temperment.
Height and weight in top packs is all pretty similar..
Why are league players such good union coaches?
You invite someone onto the show and then you don’t give them space to enter the discussion.
Too fond of their own egos. Tbey couldn’t find a way to stop themselves. So frustrating.
In fairness Squidge is probably relishing the chance to understand two top level players perspectives on the technicalities of the game.
He’s humble enough to listen and learn.
And how to adapt. You are playing NZ than you are playing SA. The north are great but some how they don't adapt
I'm a Bok supporter I listened to u guys and I think you guys did a awesome job but what do you think about world rugby wanting everyone to play like the all blacks and speeding up the game and don't let the rest of the world be themselves and play like what suits them and the end of it all u are just making it easier for New Zealand to be the beat everyone because fast running rugby only fits the all blaks and maybe Japan. I think that sucks
Love where England is going. Ireland are soooooo over rated. What have they won????
Albert. South Africa
Their last game against the world champions
Where are England going .We will see at the end of year tour if they can beat both Sa and Nz at home.If they do that then I think they going the right way .
Lads didn’t really let Squidge say a whole lot. Too busy giving their own insights and not letting their guest get fully involved in the discussion
The PEDs help enormously. How many failed South African doping tests is that now?
I could walk into any british school and find peds, then claim your entire island is a waste of time, but let's not.
@@shintenkai1648How many South African internationals have failed tests? Men and women. The country is a wash with doping.
Have any these chaps been
Watching rugby? Boks are most powerful forwards with an equally powerful second set of forwards and now with brown we are as good as kiwis with backs. And time to get better.
This was recorded a while ago.
Before a lot of the latest charges.
@@masterq2.033 why post so late then? If it’s so out of context. Makes no sense or post it or it’s out of date. But thanks
HAIRCUT
South Africa is the most technical team in the world - trash talk by Coles!
No
Dropped i to listen to Squidge, but all I got was the bald guy and the boy.
Squidge rugby engages in over-analysis. A lot of what he says is on the money, but at other times he tries to attribute set-play thinking and intention to open play flowing rugby.
It's something that really irritates me watching his videos.
Fully agree. Sometimes stuff happens because stuff happens. It’s not always a super focused deliberate play or a deliberate structured defensive action that leads to an out come.
These guys as internationals haven't got a clue about South Africa.
Guys, let's just call it a day and give rugby to the Springboks. There's other sports everyone can be good at.