I was just researching the Beneteau swift trawler line. They made a swift trawler 50 and now they make a swift trawler 48 . The difference in interior space between both boats is amazing .The 50 is so much bigger. Now I noticed that the newer swift 48 has regular shaft drives again where the older 50's only come with pod drives. That of course makes you wonder why Beneteau the largest boat builder in the world after all goes back from pods to shafts. Maybe someone who reads this knows more about that ?
If you run in shallow water pods are an accident waiting to happen. Volvo pods are much better than Zeus pods but Volvo parts are very expensive and somewhat limited. I agree that the economy and maneuverability make up for the service costs however the likelihood of hazards are a huge issue and not worth the trade off. Give me shafts, props and thrusters any day. Just my opinion.
Thanks for the podcast on pods man! Up until I saw your manifesto just now I was a straight shaft guy with a big ass keel to protect the prop. Your doing exactly what your supposed to be doing. Keep it up.
New re-designed Volvo Penta IPS PODS no longer require hauling the boat for oil change. This, combined with increased fuel efficiency, makes them less costly than traditional shaft drives.
Zeus pods goes into great detail on what happens when their unit strikes an obstacle. Volvo Penta IPS videos are silent on that topic. Can you explain what happens if an IPS hits a log?
Can Pods combine the input of a bow thruster into the joystick control? Don’t think so. Don’t let them tell you that you don’t need a bow thruster with pods. You will when the breeze gets up.
Spoken by someone who 1) has never lost the use of their boat for a season because of a bad microchip that was unavailable 2) hasn’t had to deal with the dramatic increase in maintenance costs - recurring revenue stream for the yards and manufacturers who maintain them 3) assumes they’re as reliable as other more traditional drive systems - they’re not 4) is apparently unaware of the massive issues associated with a particular manufacturer of pods
I don't have a boat, but been on few and they always tell current depth. How do people run aground with sensors telling you approximate depth of water to damage the pods ?
like all types of engines/motors/drives, that depends on what breaks... and how good you are at DIY. The software?.. that's going to be tough, but it's probably a download & reset away. Prop comes off? installing new props is not that hard. rudder issues? There is probably a manual steering option. "engine issues", well, they're inboard, so as long as you have access, it shouldn't be that bad. The same can be said for cars.
You obviously have no direct long term experience. POD seal replacement $9k - $14k per pod. To replace to and bottom seal you have to remove the entire pod actuator since top and bottom seals must be replaced. If water got into the actuator then you are talking 35k and up to replace or rebuild. Plus when any of these events occur which do frequently it can take 2 months to fix. Imagine if the boat is 100s of miles from home. None if these isses with shafts and thrusters with joystick option as well.
What's your opinion on Pods?
hey great review on pods but I just have one question - whats the highest hp motor can a pod handle? thanks 👍🏼
I was just researching the Beneteau swift trawler line. They made a swift trawler 50 and now they make a swift trawler 48 . The difference in interior space between both boats is amazing .The 50 is so much bigger. Now I noticed that the newer swift 48 has regular shaft drives again where the older 50's only come with pod drives. That of course makes you wonder why Beneteau the largest boat builder in the world after all goes back from pods to shafts. Maybe someone who reads this knows more about that ?
If you run in shallow water pods are an accident waiting to happen. Volvo pods are much better than Zeus pods but Volvo parts are very expensive and somewhat limited. I agree that the economy and maneuverability make up for the service costs however the likelihood of hazards are a huge issue and not worth the trade off. Give me shafts, props and thrusters any day. Just my opinion.
No different than any other system. The same thing happens to any drive system. That's operator error 100%
@kirkwilliams4942 if I bang my props, it's a $500 problem. If I bang my pods, it's tens of thousands. Not the same at all
Are recording at the garage or the toilet?
Toilet
Thanks for the podcast on pods man! Up until I saw your manifesto just now I was a straight shaft guy with a big ass keel to protect the prop. Your doing exactly what your supposed to be doing. Keep it up.
The ips on my princess is a game changer. Plenty of power, they screw forward, the efficiency is great.
I like Pods. And the Azimut 77S. 👍🏻
New re-designed Volvo Penta IPS PODS no longer require hauling the boat for oil change. This, combined with increased fuel efficiency, makes them less costly than traditional shaft drives.
Great video man I loved it!
i wondering how long he had to pay for saying my wife or my girlfriend?
You forgot about Relatability !
I like pods because my dream yacht (Azimut 77S) has them.
Zeus pods goes into great detail on what happens when their unit strikes an obstacle. Volvo Penta IPS videos are silent on that topic. Can you explain what happens if an IPS hits a log?
Can Pods combine the input of a bow thruster into the joystick control? Don’t think so. Don’t let them tell you that you don’t need a bow thruster with pods. You will when the breeze gets up.
Still need a bow thruster.
Are pods better or worse than straight shaft in bad sea conditions ?
how would pods be on a crab boat?? i like the idea of them but i wonder about thing like forward and reverse fast??
Can you hull a crusiers yacht 360 express with Pods on a trailer?
Hey man try to cut down on the echo
You should check out SeaDrive pods
Thank you Chris! Appreciate the honest info! I love pods too!
Awesome
dude the audio, fix the echo
I scrambled to stop the video and it took me 5 seconds... thank God
Thanks for the 5 seconds of watch time. It’s much appreciated as is your thoughtful comment.
major echo in the background. Terrible acoustics.
Spoken by someone who
1) has never lost the use of their boat for a season because of a bad microchip that was unavailable
2) hasn’t had to deal with the dramatic increase in maintenance costs - recurring revenue stream for the yards and manufacturers who maintain them
3) assumes they’re as reliable as other more traditional drive systems - they’re not
4) is apparently unaware of the massive issues associated with a particular manufacturer of pods
I don't have a boat, but been on few and they always tell current depth. How do people run aground with sensors telling you approximate depth of water to damage the pods ?
Sound should be improved
_"...my wife...my girlfriend who runs the lines..."_
Both of them?
Dude the audio is terrible. Lots of echo/feedback in your voice. Since you like pods get the Apple Airpods. They provide a much clearer sound stage.
After you help me find a Regal 46 Coup quit you day job and do stand up! :)
If a pod breaks, can you repair it DIY? Nope...
like all types of engines/motors/drives, that depends on what breaks... and how good you are at DIY. The software?.. that's going to be tough, but it's probably a download & reset away. Prop comes off? installing new props is not that hard. rudder issues? There is probably a manual steering option. "engine issues", well, they're inboard, so as long as you have access, it shouldn't be that bad. The same can be said for cars.
I’d have a heck of a time repairing my nibril props or my drive shaft DIY.
Lol yeah like I can repair my out drive when it hits a shoal…NOT!
You obviously have no direct long term experience. POD seal replacement $9k - $14k per pod. To replace to and bottom seal you have to remove the entire pod actuator since top and bottom seals must be replaced. If water got into the actuator then you are talking 35k and up to replace or rebuild. Plus when any of these events occur which do frequently it can take 2 months to fix. Imagine if the boat is 100s of miles from home. None if these isses with shafts and thrusters with joystick option as well.
Did they have pods in 1917? LOL
LOL