Wonderfully explained. This is the kind of analysis one needs to do before buying a bike. It’s not able drags - which bike gets to 100 the fast. Kudos to you man!!
Very well explained 👍🏻 Riders should understand the difference between different segments bikes. It's not like someone is comparing/ drag racing cb350/classic 350 with dominar or all ktm🙏🏻
@@shaikabdullah7611 yup ,silly me , I was wondering while reading it ,it is 12500 rpm,i wrote it wrong .I had to do video in one shot and already recorded 10 times .so post it anyway.
@@themechanicsingh4159 its most likely 7250 rpm and its not like comapre cheetah tp hporse because cheteah isint stronger than horse and ktm is stronger than honda cb ....
@@mociczyczki look man , it’s about everyday drivability , I’m getting 37km/l and my friend 250 ktm is getting 25-30km/l , and ktm has to build power above 4000 rpm , i shift gear at 4000rpm , in reality I easily pass him in city , and I reach 100km/h more quicker and smoothly, doing 100 is no problem , I even overtake cars 80 to 100 no problem. And no vibration, ktm vibrate at 100 . Honda is a cruiser bike(old tech), and ktm is a sports bike (latest tech, performance,it will be better.and u pay 40,000 more for that.
Excellent content ! Its such a pleasure to see such an well informed rider ! Lovely analysis. I own an Honda CB350 2024 model and every bit can relate to what you say !
I can't wait to get this bike. Guys I've just started my youtube journey with a review channel. If you don't mind, do drop by. Have a beautiful day ahead!
irrespective of the power, torque figures, needing to shifting to first gear on speed breakers etc is the worst experience, when you ride it in city traffic. Most of the other bikes, can clear those speed breakers in 2nd gear itself. I understand that the taller 4th and 5th gear aids relaxed cruising, but in the Indian city conditions, a shorter first 2nd gear would have really helped.
@@themechanicsingh4159 but won't that compromise bikes top speed? Any suggestions what sprocketing for same.., I am considering CBR250 14+38 sprocket in CB350, would it set as is?
Very well made video. With little bit of engineering knowledge, was able to understand it. I'm bit Puzzled how Apache RR or KTM 250 does 100-150+ speeds despite having less CC Engine. In future, maybe another day explain us✌️
When Honda will fix this tall gearing core problem. How long we can drive in 2 & 3rd gear in the city. Most people who bought honda doesn't complain about the tall gearing and lack of power issue. That is really bad, Most of us are trying to defend that issue is ok, Unless many people complain Honda will not update anything or resolve this issue ? At least Honda should fix the power lack issue in the upcoming versions, its almost 1 year and they launched Anniversary editions without fixing all these complaints, People paying 2.5 lakhs such a huge amount for this bike and they have to adjust to the bike issues , why cannt Honda fix these problems
That’s not a problem, bike is giving 40km/l bcs of the tall gearing , bike only needs 4 gears . Just like old bullets . 5th gear is overdrive for highway cruising. I like the tall gearing . No need of rapid gear changes . In market just keep the bike in 3rd gear . No problem . Small bikes have small gear ⚙️ratio bcs very small engine and power band low . But this bike hits you with full 30NM torque at 3000rpm . That’s a good feeling . Just live with it and you will complain small gear ratio in small bikes . I hate when I ride my CD110 . It’s pathetic to ride even my friend apache 160 . I don’t like these power band and gear ratio .
Hi thanks for the great explanation, The tank capacity is 15 lit. 2litre we have to keep it reserved overall we are running the bike on 13 litre of petrol ?
It’s alright in hills, I rode mostly in 3rd gear in tight turns , no need to change gear like in apache have to downshift 3 gears to get pickup but Honda rode same as on plans no major power loss due to larger cc .
Yes , Honda cb350 will pull harder till 60 than KTM but will lose in top speed run as KTM would be revving to screaming 9000 rpm and will of course consume a lot of fuel.
@@themechanicsingh4159 Only our CB350 shows Real time fuel economy. At 120kmph top speed at 5th gear, bike sips so much fuel that Mileage indicator show 20 kmpl. Have you tested kmpl what it shows when you're at top speed?
U are getting good pickup in 1 and 2 gear till 3000rpm, initial pull is what u feel , then above 3000rpm it’s just engine reving , smoothly and speedo needle rising gently .
@@ananthuam5335 I ride at 20+speed in 2 gear ,and feel instant pickup,if u riding at low rpm (below 20kmh)u are stalling the engine,causing jerk , not good for engine. Keep throttle in non stress position.
I planned , even unbolt it,but no aftermarket support or replacement . As Honda uses different parts . But I know most parts are swappable with honda500x . But 500x parts are not available even at bigwing dealership .
@@themechanicsingh4159 It will not be hard to source compatible sprockets, either with a tooth less in front or 3-4 teeth more in the rear. Which city are u located in?
I always wanted tall gearing bike at this segment it will be great to ride in city traffic without changing rapid gears at a time...I am gonna buy rs350 in sept...
Tall gearing is great, recently brother bought 390 and man it’s a pain shifting 6 gears rapidly in Indian congested traffic , i am in just 3-4th gear in Honda and in ktm 1-4 gear are required, and to do highway over takes in ktm have to drop 2 gears , Honda 1 gear, so shifting down is not an issue, We both ride at 100-110 km/h no problem . But after riding 200 km on ktm , I rode my Honda and man the sound , it felt so smooth no vibration ( ktm has vibration) easily doing 80km/h and the sound was lovely ( bs6 ktm is literally silent) . Even brother felt. Then I realised its not about hp specs etc , it’s about feel , and practicality. Will have a side bike like interceptor but will keep Honda for life.
I rode with 15kg of luggage with pillion and 80-100kmph no problem, actually the engine rode so smooth with extra weight loved it. And full throttle open it did 110-120kmph . Depends upon the wind resistance. U need open highway to do 120kmph as it might take some seconds to reach and hold 120kmph ,for me it was for just 10sec and then traffic came. I rode 100km at 80-90kmph and bike was not even feeling it,
Gixerr sf 250 has a 250 cc engine and yet it churns out higher power( around 27bhp), but the Honda cb350 is only able to produce 21bhp. Does this mean that the honda, which has a higher volume engine( producing less power) will have a long life compared to gixerr's engine? Could you please explain it?
Engine long life don’t depends upon bhp of engine . Suzuki and Honda both makes reliable engine . Gixerr 250 is sports-tourer bike , service interval is 5000km .that is good . CB350 is a sports-cruiser bike ,service interval is 6000km that is impressive. These are Morden technology engines and they use advance fully synthetic engine oil and oil filters . So reliability of a engine was a thing of past. Japanese bikes will run forever if u do normal maintenance.
@@themechanicsingh4159 If that is so, then why would a manufacturer like Honda would go for an engine with higher displacement producing less power? They could have gone for 250cc and still be able to produce more than 20bhp.
In depends on the engine of choice...as honda prioritise initial torque over speed they went with long stroke but in their CBR series they use either square or short stroke engines as the High revvs and top speed is preferred, same goes for Suzuki as well... We are comparing long and short strokes here, why did Suzuki produces 22Nm as high as 7500 rpm.. Interms of engine life the short strokes has better engine life than longer ones as the surface area rubbing with cylinder wall is less, which means less worn out on rings, piston..etc.
@@dhivagarsrinivasan622 o yeah , then why do short stroke high revving motogp bike engine life is 3000 km, long stroke engine make peak torque at low revs which makes them suitable for good fuel economy , everyday commute and as rpm’s are low, they last longer, that surface area of piston and rings doesn’t make any sense, bcs short stroke will revving 9000rpm and long stroke revving 4000rpm producing same torque and power. Then by your theory big V8 V12 engine have so much surface area they should rebuild so soon. . U know new bs6 all Honda bikes have service interval of 6000km, that’s so good. It’s the quality of engine oil and filter that matters bro, Morden synthetic oils are inc the engine life. U just maintain them on time.
I ride at 40kmph in 3rd gear and 60kmph in 4th gear, 60+ in 5th gear , below 60 u have to drop a gear.and the ECO light turns ON on the meter to show i am getting good mileage, that’s a good feature.like I also have a Honda cb125 and u have to drive it at 40kmph at 4th gear(top gear) to get 60km/L . Average , so u just have to keep bike under 3000 rpm to get good mileage.
@@iamiam923 I only put 285km , and calculater 38 km/l . Not sure have to empty the tank . And now it’s lockdown in Uttarakhand,and I cut my finger in chain sprocket.so pretty fucked up with pain.
Since 2005, Benelli has been acquired by Qianjiang Motor Group, a Chinese company in turn that since 2015 is controlled by the Geely Holding Group.a Chinese company , The company was founded in Italy and design headquarter of big bikes is in Italy , also there 3 cylinder engine is produced there , I think . and cheaper models are manufactured in china. Bigger models like 600i uses Yamaha old engine and build quality is good but not as Japanese quality , but smaller models are alright .
Wonderfully explained. This is the kind of analysis one needs to do before buying a bike. It’s not able drags - which bike gets to 100 the fast. Kudos to you man!!
Thanks brother.
One of the most brilliant and simple analysis. Thanks for this man!
Thank you bro, It's nice to know that atleast someone is an informed buyer.
Very well explained 👍🏻
Riders should understand the difference between different segments bikes.
It's not like someone is comparing/ drag racing cb350/classic 350 with dominar or all ktm🙏🏻
Thanks brother. U can’t compare Cheeta 🐆 to a horse 🐎.
How fool he is
Ktm rpm is 1250 he said
@@shaikabdullah7611 yup ,silly me , I was wondering while reading it ,it is 12500 rpm,i wrote it wrong .I had to do video in one shot and already recorded 10 times .so post it anyway.
@@themechanicsingh4159 its most likely 7250 rpm and its not like comapre cheetah tp hporse because cheteah isint stronger than horse and ktm is stronger than honda cb ....
@@mociczyczki look man , it’s about everyday drivability , I’m getting 37km/l and my friend 250 ktm is getting 25-30km/l , and ktm has to build power above 4000 rpm , i shift gear at 4000rpm , in reality I easily pass him in city , and I reach 100km/h more quicker and smoothly, doing 100 is no problem , I even overtake cars 80 to 100 no problem. And no vibration, ktm vibrate at 100 . Honda is a cruiser bike(old tech), and ktm is a sports bike (latest tech, performance,it will be better.and u pay 40,000 more for that.
A bit technical for a layman like me, but helps a lot, as i am seeking to know why the Gear ratio is a problem comparing in its segment...
It’s not a problem at all, u know what .I love it . It’s definitely a young men’s riding bike.
@@themechanicsingh4159 But tell me why, Yamaha's bikes spare parts are more Cheaper than KTM or maybe Honda
Beautiful analysis. Now im confident to buy cb350rs
Lovely explanation i have never went in depth i am going to buy CB RS for sure and yes i got your explanation very clearly ...i will subscribe you
Excellent content ! Its such a pleasure to see such an well informed rider ! Lovely analysis.
I own an Honda CB350 2024 model and every bit can relate to what you say !
Thats the way to compare different technology with different bikes...salute man 👨
The video was in hurry , couldn’t explain in details,
Thanks.
I can't wait to get this bike. Guys I've just started my youtube journey with a review channel. If you don't mind, do drop by. Have a beautiful day ahead!
Good explanation, very detailed and calculation is awesome 👌,kudos to your effort.. 👍🏼
Thanks morning. U made my morning good.
Good analysis. Hard work .
I'm confused between TVS Ronin and Honda 350RS. This gave a pretty good idea of what I need and I'm going with TVS Ronin
Will recommend a good test ride of both or if ur friend have one, ride it before buying .
What did you end up buying?
@@sivaprakashchinnasamy3231 bought Ronin and it’s fantastic. But if u ride above 60 to 65, there are a lot of vibes. It’s best for the city driving
irrespective of the power, torque figures, needing to shifting to first gear on speed breakers etc is the worst experience, when you ride it in city traffic. Most of the other bikes, can clear those speed breakers in 2nd gear itself. I understand that the taller 4th and 5th gear aids relaxed cruising, but in the Indian city conditions, a shorter first 2nd gear would have really helped.
Hmm , u are making some point, just put a larger rear sprocket ⚙️ and u will solve it.
@@themechanicsingh4159 but won't that compromise bikes top speed? Any suggestions what sprocketing for same.., I am considering CBR250 14+38 sprocket in CB350, would it set as is?
@@arv1ndgr I’m also working on it , but have to swap the rim too, sprocket ⚙️ won’t fit .
Man you deserve a like👍, GREAT WORK.
Increase rear or reduce front sprocket to shorten overall drive ratio.
Excellent Video brother. Keep posting such a knowledge videos. All the best👍🏻
Very well made video. With little bit of engineering knowledge, was able to understand it. I'm bit Puzzled how Apache RR or KTM 250 does 100-150+ speeds despite having less CC Engine. In future, maybe another day explain us✌️
they are short stroke engines, higher revvs, more power. superbikes revv at 13,000+ rpm to generate their rated HP.
Ufff, loved the analysis. What are your aspirations man, open your own customization garage?
When Honda will fix this tall gearing core problem. How long we can drive in 2 & 3rd gear in the city. Most people who bought honda doesn't complain about the tall gearing and lack of power issue. That is really bad, Most of us are trying to defend that issue is ok,
Unless many people complain Honda will not update anything or resolve this issue ?
At least Honda should fix the power lack issue in the upcoming versions, its almost 1 year and they launched Anniversary editions without fixing all these complaints, People paying 2.5 lakhs such a huge amount for this bike and they have to adjust to the bike issues , why cannt Honda fix these problems
That’s not a problem, bike is giving 40km/l bcs of the tall gearing , bike only needs 4 gears . Just like old bullets . 5th gear is overdrive for highway cruising. I like the tall gearing . No need of rapid gear changes . In market just keep the bike in 3rd gear . No problem . Small bikes have small gear ⚙️ratio bcs very small engine and power band low . But this bike hits you with full 30NM torque at 3000rpm . That’s a good feeling . Just live with it and you will complain small gear ratio in small bikes . I hate when I ride my CD110 . It’s pathetic to ride even my friend apache 160 . I don’t like these power band and gear ratio .
@@themechanicsingh4159 very well Said 🙌
Well explained. What is the solution. Can we use larger back sprocket to solve this issue ?
this problem is mostly solved after ECU update
Great bro...useful video for honda lovers n informative
Thanks for explanation i am from tamilnadu
Good content, I am a non technical person, but understood well. Thanks
Thanks daughter’s daddy.
08:47 😂
Hi thanks for the great explanation,
The tank capacity is 15 lit.
2litre we have to keep it reserved overall we are running the bike on 13 litre of petrol ?
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Check out my Honda cb350 mileage video, 40km/l
I'm from north east india...planning to get this bike... but our road are quiet steep and hilly...will this bike performance b decent enough...
It’s alright in hills, I rode mostly in 3rd gear in tight turns , no need to change gear like in apache have to downshift 3 gears to get pickup but Honda rode same as on plans no major power loss due to larger cc .
@@themechanicsingh4159 thank you...
When a physics teacher wants to bought the best bike.
Incase of bigger sprocketing change ,we can overcome the issue or not?? Pls guide me
Super specs comparision brother , love it. What do you feel honda highness need to add ?
More horsepower , but it will mess up the fuel economy ,40km/l check out my video on it .
@@themechanicsingh4159 👌👍
Informative brother it’s just awesome info ..
have you tried changing the front or maybe rear sprocket for shorter gearing ?
Well explained! Does having higher torque means the bike pulls better than a short stroke if both bikes are at their ideal rpm?
Yes , Honda cb350 will pull harder till 60 than KTM but will lose in top speed run as KTM would be revving to screaming 9000 rpm and will of course consume a lot of fuel.
He does not have proper knowledge of
Mechanism
@@shaikabdullah7611 can u explain what I said wrong?
@@themechanicsingh4159 Only our CB350 shows Real time fuel economy. At 120kmph top speed at 5th gear, bike sips so much fuel that Mileage indicator show 20 kmpl. Have you tested kmpl what it shows when you're at top speed?
@@arv1ndgr nope
Make a video about paint quality and rust issues in cb350rs also some people claimimg rim got bend in a very small potholes
hi, can the top speed be increased a bit by changing the sprockets?...any recommended size?
Go with larger rear sprocket .that should work. changing anything else is waste of time and money .
brilliant stuff brother, learned few things which I had half knowledge until now…. loved those chickens clucking in the background too 😘
am not getting much pickup on 1st and 2nd gear on my cb350rs
U are getting good pickup in 1 and 2 gear till 3000rpm, initial pull is what u feel , then above 3000rpm it’s just engine reving , smoothly and speedo needle rising gently .
@@themechanicsingh4159 on low speeds , while i take a humb on 2nd gear the motorbike doesnt deliver the power to overcome
@@ananthuam5335 I ride at 20+speed in 2 gear ,and feel instant pickup,if u riding at low rpm (below 20kmh)u are stalling the engine,causing jerk , not good for engine. Keep throttle in non stress position.
Haven't you test drive the cb350 before booking?
It's has shitty gear ratios , nil low end torque and poor high end torque.
Good 👍
Superb info
I wish it had shorter 2nd gear ratio... Feels less powerful than fzs i had before..
awesome bro 👌
Great knowledge👍👍😁
There is no point for a 350cc bike to be fast... That's why bullet is loved.
👍 keep it up
Are you planning on changing the sprockets to shorten the gearing?
I planned , even unbolt it,but no aftermarket support or replacement . As Honda uses different parts . But I know most parts are swappable with honda500x . But 500x parts are not available even at bigwing dealership .
@@themechanicsingh4159 It will not be hard to source compatible sprockets, either with a tooth less in front or 3-4 teeth more in the rear. Which city are u located in?
@@anoshkhumbatta6327 I tried swapping ktm sprocket ⚙️ but Honda front sprocket have wider inner radius .so rear could be swapped . I don’t have time .
I heard of people swapping rear sprocket with gixxer sf 250
Can u share the sweet spot of every gears
No. Ride it to understand it.
@@themechanicsingh4159 OK
Bro, it does 108 in 3rd gear and 135 in 4th.
nice informative video
Great job 👌👌👌
May be i am wrong , but i think your Dob total means d+d+m+m+y+y+y+y total = 8
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@@themechanicsingh4159 this type of maths is skill of person whose entire date of birth total is 8 as per numerology, i am just learning it.
How about my DOB= 5
I always wanted tall gearing bike at this segment it will be great to ride in city traffic without changing rapid gears at a time...I am gonna buy rs350 in sept...
Tall gearing is great, recently brother bought 390 and man it’s a pain shifting 6 gears rapidly in Indian congested traffic , i am in just 3-4th gear in Honda and in ktm 1-4 gear are required, and to do highway over takes in ktm have to drop 2 gears , Honda 1 gear, so shifting down is not an issue,
We both ride at 100-110 km/h no problem . But after riding 200 km on ktm , I rode my Honda and man the sound , it felt so smooth no vibration ( ktm has vibration) easily doing 80km/h and the sound was lovely ( bs6 ktm is literally silent) . Even brother felt. Then I realised its not about hp specs etc , it’s about feel , and practicality. Will have a side bike like interceptor but will keep Honda for life.
Excellent 👌
How many teeth does cb350rs have on its rear and front sprocket??
14-35
Hey are you planning to modify the sprocket? The 5th gear is just to short
I’m getting used to it, in long rides love the tall gears.
Does front sprocket change will improve the tall gearing ?
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No ,differneCe between each gear will still exist.you will o lg get initial thrust but .
So not recommend for city rides?
yes it will
bentley?
can it cruise easily at around 120kmph with pillion and luggage?? (avg sized rider and pillion)
I rode with 15kg of luggage with pillion and 80-100kmph no problem, actually the engine rode so smooth with extra weight loved it. And full throttle open it did 110-120kmph . Depends upon the wind resistance. U need open highway to do 120kmph as it might take some seconds to reach and hold 120kmph ,for me it was for just 10sec and then traffic came. I rode 100km at 80-90kmph and bike was not even feeling it,
@@themechanicsingh4159 cool .. Thanks 😄
cb 350 hit 135 km/h at 3 gear you are crazy it will never hit 135 km/h at 3 gear unlesss in place with wheel freee spin in air ! ...
Not getting started when in gear, is this an issue?
Put smaller tyre , it will solve it ,
What's cruising speed for hness 350 and 350RS.
Thanks
80-100kmph all day.it’s shows ECO light on 90kmph.
@@themechanicsingh4159 Thanks
Plz send me the Japan honda link , plz
www.honda.co.jp/GB350/?from=navi_banner2_b
whats sprocket size in front and rear ?
13 teeth front, 35 rear
Gixerr sf 250 has a 250 cc engine and yet it churns out higher power( around 27bhp), but the Honda cb350 is only able to produce 21bhp. Does this mean that the honda, which has a higher volume engine( producing less power) will have a long life compared to gixerr's engine? Could you please explain it?
Engine long life don’t depends upon bhp of engine . Suzuki and Honda both makes reliable engine .
Gixerr 250 is sports-tourer bike , service interval is 5000km .that is good . CB350 is a sports-cruiser bike ,service interval is 6000km that is impressive.
These are Morden technology engines and they use advance fully synthetic engine oil and oil filters .
So reliability of a engine was a thing of past.
Japanese bikes will run forever if u do normal maintenance.
@@themechanicsingh4159 If that is so, then why would a manufacturer like Honda would go for an engine with higher displacement producing less power? They could have gone for 250cc and still be able to produce more than 20bhp.
In depends on the engine of choice...as honda prioritise initial torque over speed they went with long stroke but in their CBR series they use either square or short stroke engines as the High revvs and top speed is preferred, same goes for Suzuki as well...
We are comparing long and short strokes here, why did Suzuki produces 22Nm as high as 7500 rpm..
Interms of engine life the short strokes has better engine life than longer ones as the surface area rubbing with cylinder wall is less, which means less worn out on rings, piston..etc.
@@dhivagarsrinivasan622 o yeah , then why do short stroke high revving motogp bike engine life is 3000 km, long stroke engine make peak torque at low revs which makes them suitable for good fuel economy , everyday commute and as rpm’s are low, they last longer,
that surface area of piston and rings doesn’t make any sense, bcs short stroke will revving 9000rpm and long stroke revving 4000rpm producing same torque and power. Then by your theory big V8 V12 engine have so much surface area they should rebuild so soon. .
U know new bs6 all Honda bikes have service interval of 6000km, that’s so good. It’s the quality of engine oil and filter that matters bro, Morden synthetic oils are inc the engine life. U just maintain them on time.
135 in 3rd gear? Really?
115kmph , to be exact , than u hit the revlimitor
In what speed should i ride in city to get better millege?
I ride at 40kmph in 3rd gear and 60kmph in 4th gear, 60+ in 5th gear , below 60 u have to drop a gear.and the ECO light turns ON on the meter to show i am getting good mileage, that’s a good feature.like I also have a Honda cb125 and u have to drive it at 40kmph at 4th gear(top gear) to get 60km/L . Average , so u just have to keep bike under 3000 rpm to get good mileage.
@@themechanicsingh4159 thanks u soo much and wat is the millege u get ?
@@iamiam923 I only put 285km , and calculater 38 km/l . Not sure have to empty the tank . And now it’s lockdown in Uttarakhand,and I cut my finger in chain sprocket.so pretty fucked up with pain.
@@themechanicsingh4159 oh sorry
@@themechanicsingh4159 oops, sorry to hear that. Vibes to get well soon
Top Speed is 145 in hness right
Yes,
Bro Banelli is Italian and not Chinese.
Since 2005, Benelli has been acquired by Qianjiang Motor Group, a Chinese company in turn that since 2015 is controlled by the Geely Holding Group.a Chinese company ,
The company was founded in Italy and design headquarter of big bikes is in Italy , also there 3 cylinder engine is produced there , I think .
and cheaper models are manufactured in china.
Bigger models like 600i uses Yamaha old engine and build quality is good but not as Japanese quality , but smaller models are alright .
👍👌
Millege test bro please
City 39, highway 40-45 +
Benelli is Italian , not chinese
Ha ha Benelli is Chinese? I was told it's Italian !
Benelli is owned by Chinese company, its manufactured in China 🇨🇳, its headquarter is in Italy 🇮🇹 were they design bikes,
Is this in UPSC syllabus
Naa,
Wow just subscribed sir