Very likely Syd friendzoned him. When you ask someone out and they respond in shock, it's usually because they never saw you in that light. Then her response after to him cemented it.
The discussion made me remember the Marcus/Sydney conversation in Honeydew. She said, “I miss you dude.” His reply caught her off guard. That’s when she pulled the freeze frame joke.
"what's going on here?" Nah he felt the vibes. Welcome to the biggest divide in the bear fan base. That intimate scene. He felt it. That was intimate AF.
Tell me abt it , and what calmed him down in the panic attack , their banter and how Sydney gets a little jealous. I’ll be so real from being on the sub Reddit for a bit ppl are mad hateful and racist abt Sydney and even bash the actor 💀 it's 2024 and ppl are getting this angry over an interracial ship and suddenly the concept of romantic chemistry don't exist it's just they're good friends
It definitely is meant to be and probably more to her coming from Carmy who pretty much changed her life, but its not the same for Carm. She might be feeling the inimacy but that's all that the show has shown. The fans are kinda stupid with their divide. If they have to focus on each other it has to be as professional chef partners, not lovers. Carmy clearly fucked up and regretted saying that even when he meant it at the time. Can't wait for season 3.
lupa having the audacity to immediately shut down roshi for picking up some vibes from carmy and syndey when he himself was wrong about sydney and marcus 💀 LMAO
the fact carmy literally has a panic attack and his mind is racing thinking about claire and his family and the panic attack wont calm, and then as soon as he imagines and thinks about syd he starts to calm down immediately… if that doesn’t show how he cares for her idk what else will
"I don't wanna take it from you, I don't wanna knock it down. I will take it from you, I will knock it the fuck down." I love how real Jimmy is with Carmen.
They’re pretty much family, he’s rooting for him, but both brothers have played him out of a lot of his money. At least Carmy is putting a lot of it into action at the moment.
syd and carmy under the table has to mean something. like the both of them are carrying and supporting the table, which i guess represents the restaurant?
Roshi actually wrong on this one, in the season 1 finale, while the bachelor party is going on and Richie and Carmy are outside talking (right before Richie gets arrested), Richie says "I don't know, he was Mikey Bear" so Sheera was right, they did call him Bear
I think he was just thinking about what she told him in episode 1 because he’s panicking that he has to live up to that, “the best chef at the best restaurant in the world.” I didn’t really see him calm down about it.
I also think Syd and Carmy moment under the table was something more because when Carmen had the panic attack it took thinking of Syd to him calm down. And I think Syd has a crush on him.
Roshi was correct when he said there was more to the table convo. You had 2 scenes with deeper meaning than the surface concerning Carmi and Sydney. The first was when he was having the panic attack and only thinking of Sydney was what calmed him down.
shutting roshi down by saying he's reading the vibe between carmy and sydney wrong when he's completely right 😭 like the episode starts w/ carmy only calming down after visualizing sydney
i know y'all aren't gonna hear this but good friends and supportive people (yes, people of the opposite sex too) can be that for you without something romantic being involved. sydney is 100%, bonafide, military grade ride or die and he knows that and that relief can be extremely potent when he's basically reaching for the stars. that does NOT mean that he wants to cuddle up to her late at night; ambition and dreams and that pursuit of greatness is an entirely different kind of headspace and mindset and while romance helps, it is not the end all be all; devotion is, and that doesn't need any kind of romance or affection to be powerful. it doesn't happen often and almost never in media, but this show is mature enough to have that happen. intimacy =/= romance, and when it comes to emotional themes, something complex and atypical like that fits right in with everything else in the show. it could ALSO be that it was romantic, me personally i enjoy the possibility of either
@@osvelit hi! I see where you're coming from, and, personally would not be upset if they stayed platonic, I love their dynamic and agree that intimacy does not always mean romance! I was mostly commenting from a chemistry perspective and just think they'd fit well together. thank you for commenting :)
It's gotta be racist how ppl are writing paragraphs upon paragraph on how they can never see anything romantic between the two and all scenes with them are “platonic”😭
Honestly, I still don't know lol I think I want them to stay friends - I like their relationship as chefs and business partners. Idk if every connection we see as viewers needs to be a romantic one. Platonic relationships can be just as deep. But I guess we'll seee!
I think Claire's a great fit, being they've liked each other for so long but DANG, that scene with Sydney was really special. Actually all of them are. Even if you check out the very first time he sees her when he'd forgotten she was coming in for a job, it's like his heart stops and he gets a little flustered talking to her. (maybe I'm just projecting. HAA! cause they're so cute together)
I agree because they have been through so much in a short time. I still think the point is they are close and yet not romantic. That would be a bad move and lazy to me. Claire has history with Carmy, but not as strong for the viewer. Claire herself, or the actor I should say, is great.
I'm with Roshi on this, Carmy and Syd had VIBES going on, in this episode specifically. At the end of the day, I'm good with both - them getting together at some point or for their relationship to stay platonic. But you can't deny the chemistry because that's clear as day.
Regarding Syd & Carmy, it was the way that 2 lines were delivered by the actors that hinted at possibly something deeper. First, when Carmy quickly jumps in to say “I wouldn’t want to do this without you” - it was a visceral response. He spit that out almost before she finished speaking. Second, when Syd whispers, “you make me better at this.” I think that scene was just intended to be a heart-to-heart talk about their business relationship. It felt like something more because they were being vulnerable with each other. They weren’t flirting, and I never got the sense that Syd was ever jealous of Claire for romantic reasons. She was just pissed that Carmy was making business decisions based on his talks with Claire instead of her. THAT SAID, that discussion under the table felt more intimate than any scenes that Carmy has with Claire. There is great chemistry between these 2 actors, but if anything ever ends up happening between them, I hope that it’s a very slow burn. I’m more invested in a story about running the restaurant than I am about romance.
Roshi asked why for example Mcdonalds doesn't have a Michelin star so I wanted to explain the history of the Michelin star, and why Mcdonalds doesnt have one. Michelin stars were originally a way to get more people to buy Michelin tires, they wanted to create a demand for more cars and in turn more tires. So they created a "Michelin guide" that included how to repair and change tires, but also included maps with places to visit and more specifically recommendations on restaurants and hotels. The Michelin guide was free at first but after a while they realized that people don't really take it seriously if you get it for free so they upped the quality of it, had "mystery diners" go to restaurants and hotels to and review them. It then evolved into a rating system for restaurants and hotels. However this rating system is slightly different from other rating systems, to get a Michelin star you have to apply for one and when you do they have different people come to your restaurant anonymously and rate you on a couple different factors, including how good the food tastes, the presentation, how fair the price is, and also how consistent the service is across all the different reviewers. The most amount of stars you can get is three and that is only awarded to the best of the best restaurants in the world. There is no criteria for what type of restaurant you have to be to get a Michelin star so technically if they wanted to a Mcdonalds could get a Michelin star, however that is very unlikely. thanks for listening to my ted talk.
Really any. Cause I remember watching a documentary about different food spots (don't remember the name of the program, it's on Netflix) and there was one street spot in, I think Thailand, that has like 1 or 2. And I think it's so cool. Cause when u hear Michelin stars, u think about those fancy exclusive food spots. And while those are a good chunck, they're way more inclusive. Cause ay, good food is good food
The Carmy and Sid scene was the two taking turns being a kind of therapist for one another. One lays on the floor like they would a therapist's couch, while the other talks them through the real issues they are having trouble voicing about themselves, especially the troubles in regards to how they are dealing with opening and running "The Bear". When it comes to this game, they are totally in sync; it's all the other noise that gets in their way and distracts them both. It's only in these types of interactions, where they spend time and truly talk to one another that they are both grounded in the mission of making "The Bear" a real success, even through all of the noise in their life, whether it's family or their love lives.
I opened a restaurant once and I had just started a relationship just before opening. Definitely did not last with the amount of time I had to commit to the restaurant/program I was helping build at the time. I find Carmy's situation to be super relatable.
I love how we're finally getting to see the restraunt come together with each character returnig with something new to bring to the team. love ur vids guys🔥
Michelin stars were obviously created by the Michelin tire company. This was in the golden age of driving and freeways. It was made as a travel guide for tourists and business people who travelled a lot. 1 star - worth the stop 2 stars - worth the detour 3 stars - worth the journey
I know no one's gonna really talk about it, but I really loved the Cubs monologue that Jimmy gave to Carmy. As a Red Sox fan and baseball fan in general, I know all too well about getting caught up in the heat of the moment. If you'd wanna learn more that whole ordeal 20 years back, I'd recommend watching the 'Catching Hell' 30 For 30 if you can find it. Good watch and tells you a lot about how getting too attached to a team can lead to taking things too seriously.
You were right Roshi about something deeper being there between Carmy and Sydney , on twitter the show account liked a comment about them being together so I think that's were its gonna head.
Fun Easter egg! The gifted chef jacket was Thom Brown and, at the time, Ayo Edebiri had a contract with them / they were doing all of her red carpet looks (she might still be in that contract I just can’t remember) Also I encourage everyone to make that omelette expeditiously. Boursin cheese is insane just with crackers but it makes an omelette or scrambled eggs next level
Maybe its just me but i think this whole Claire relationship is meant to looked forced as if its something that he genuinely doesn't want, especially with that scene when he was having a panic attack, but idk maybe thats just me
I kind of agree. Carmy being with Claire feels like something that’s tied to his grief over his brother. I feel like once he heals fully and moves on (sorts through all his emotional baggage) he’ll let go of Claire and move on.
For Syd and Carmy I think they are laying possible groundwork for a relationship. Because during Carmy's panic attack what calmed him down was Syd. But I think the restaurant will self-destruct if they do that lol.
IMO it’s a relationship of sorts, as in a platonic one based on respect and appreciation for one another. I feel like this story would be so cheapened by anything romantic happening between them. Not enough loving platonic relationships are shown on television, especially in the case of business partners.
@@lucascassol2995 their romance would cheapen the show?? what does that even mean?? if anything claire's romance cheapened the show because she is literally forced onto us and we're expected to believe that a romance blossomed out of childhood association and helping her move?? their cheap "shared background" should've laid ground work for a childhood friend support imo, not "omg we just randomly reconnected after i went through your friends to get your number, despite giving me the wrong number intentionally, we should smash a couple times and be a thing :D" like...
@@lucascassol2995Romance doesn’t cheapen a show, poor writing does. The story the writers want to tell might not center what you personally value, or what you’d like to see, but that doesn’t mean it’s less meaningful or that the story is “cheapened”. If it’s written well, acted and portrayed well, then it will be meaningful regardless if it’s platonic or romantic.
I think yall are in denial about Carmy’s and Sydneys dynamic. I agree with Roshi In the way that their bond translates to something a bit deeper. In Carmy’s panic attack; the happy moments of Claire are interlinked with his familial trauma because she’s tied to his past. I think the connection comes from the fact his family (Richie, micheal, & that nerdy guy) kept pushing him towards her during a really traumatic night. He heavily associates her with negative emotions he has to the past, and with his family. He links his family with trauma, dysfunction, fear, and stress & that triggers him. I think the panic attack digresses with the thought of Sydney (the only person in the show that has no ties to his family) because he views her as a calming influence & the thought of him to her means alot to Carmy he really cares about what she thinks in general. Thats why in the flashback she says something like “he’s the most excellent chef at one of the best restaurants in the country“ which essentially calms him down. They both genuinely love what they do and acknowledge and admire each other as great chefs. In a way Syd represents a fresh start for him to purse his own path forward away from the guilt and anxiety he’s so accustomed too. P.S the song to Strange Currencies by R.E.M plays when Syd appears during his panic attack. The same song plays when Carmy & claire 1st meet in the show. The lyrics have a deeper meaning than a platonic relationship would suggest.
People keep saying this and maybe I gotta rewatch the episode but I don’t see it. I see him having a panic attack and thinking about the pressure he’s under with Syd’s expectations on top “you were the best chef at the best restaurant in the world,” did not calm him down, imo.
I am just gonna say this. The last two episodes make the point that personal sacrifices need to be made and that you have to suffer to create the work you envision. I think this is true for Carmy, because he still has not worked on his mental health but this is not true. You can be a creative with high vision and objectives and be happy.
Roshi was not wrong for sensing something deeper between Carmy and Syd during the table scene😭😭 I ship them together, even if I know it’s not likely to happen rn due to Carmy mental health and the restaurant, their really cute and their connection is beautiful and the table scene only solidified that fact for me so I was excited for yall reaction to it to see if yall also sensed something romantically intimate between those two😭🧍🏽♂️
Yea Carmy doesn’t deserve Sydney yet. He high key pissed me off this season with all his distractions. He was the only one besides Ebram who didn’t have any character development meanwhile Syd and Richie both lapped him. I hope he can catch up next season but I doubt it cuz Chris Storer loves a tortured self sabotaging MC 😩
@adrianTurbogocrazy Ay listen imo, I don't really blame Carmy for ANYTHING that's happened, take accountability sure but man his position in this show is stressful and he's trying. That's why I like his character a lot. Tbh don't really the Sydney character development, like yeah I see trying to fix her mistakes but... gotta be more than that.
Syd & Carm are definitely long-term endgame. She's the one who truly calms him, who understands him. Claire has a past with him, sure, but many have mentioned how she can often register as a manic pixie dream girl who re-enters his life to show him the joys of love. But we have little idea who Claire is outside the context of being with Carmy. We see Sydney through it all, and even though she and Carmy can butt heads, _she_ is the one that grounds him, centers him. Also. If the show didn't spell it out enough, the risotto dish (Carmy helped her strain the etouffeé stock, which is distinctly Creole, just like Syd's dad describes of her mom, and we even see her mom serving her the risotto in a brief flash during her dream sequences) with cola-braised short ribs that Syd keeps dreaming about and working on is her literally *combining* her family's signature dish with Carmy's (beef). No wonder she felt hurt when Carmy told her to keep working on it and perfect it, because whether or not he realized it, he rejected the idea of them together. But. He said it's almost there. So let's hope with time, as Syd perfects the dish, she and Carmy can perfect being able to talk about their feelings.
I think that’s probably the way they’re going, but I honestly think they’re a terrible match. They’re both so neurotic they could each benefit from someone a lot more grounded and not as high strung.
@@thewhatness Yeah, and what they do is run a business and cook at an incredibly high level. That’s not a romantic relationship. Those qualities in a person don’t mean they’d be a good partner. And I really, really don’t think they’d be good for each other in that context. Maybe if Carmy went to like, a fuckton of therapy first. I don’t know.
Dont let them silence you Roshi! You get it. one of us...one of us... I think there's def a reason people are picking up on certain vibes. the writers can go either way with it tho so we'll really just have to see.
On the table scene, when Carmy is venting his concerns and fears, Syd is supporting the table and when Syd is venting her fears, Carmy is supporting the table.
Idk what the writers are planning long term but it’s clear they’re hinting at Syd and Carmy having a distinct, deeper connection. Whether it ends up being romantic or not, we’ll have to wait and see; but it definitely opens up valid speculation into romance being a possibility. Will it happen? Maybe yes, maybe no. But the possibility is certainly valid based on what we’ve seen so far.
I think Sydney was so hyper-focused that Marcus asking her out broke her brain a bit. It's like asking photoshop to suddenly be a word processor. She needed to recalibrate.
@@Cavpal I think both things can be true. As an INTP who sometimes feels more computer than person, I have absolutely had my brain broken this way by people who have pursued me romantically seemingly out of nowhere. A lot of the times it's people I've never been interested in, and sometimes not.
Chefs need a recipe for relationships. Michelin stars are for quality of ingredients and consistency of the execution, and the third star is given out if the chef also owns the restaurant. The tire company created the star system to give people a reason to drive across country so people could buy more tires, for real.
I feel like the show is hinting that she has Lupus like her mom, and is trying to save him the pain. The scene with the medicine cabin, feeling like she wouldn’t have another opportunity to go for her dream, and with what happens in the next episode Plus if Sydney is feeling Marcus it could be why she turned him down, so he doesn’t have to experience what her dad went through especially with his mom.
I wonder if the writers purposefully made Claire’s character 2 dimensional because we are only as invested in her and Carmy’s relationship as Carmy is; which he’s very distant with it. We have no backstory for Claire other than they used to kind of be childhood friends and she appeared out of nowhere so that explains why most of us don’t care for their scenes together.
I could see Claire having a bigger story arc in season 3 and will be an important factor for Carmy’s growth. Carmy has a lot of mental issues to process and trauma to heal from
AIN'T NO WAY yall haven't peeped that Syd & Carmy have a possible slow burn romance brewing since S1 lol. It's so obvious they have feelings for each other but both of them just don't know it YET(or they just dont wanna acknowledge it). If you go back and watch S2E3: when Sydney arrives at the restaurant... look at Carmy's body language when he's near Sydney & then pay attention when the camera cuts to Richie... he peeps there's something between them but he's not gonna say anything!😂I don't understand how ppl like Carmy & Claire together... the panic attack scene literally explains that their relationship isn't good for him, Claire BRINGS OUT THE PAST ESP. HIS TOXIC FAMILY MEANWHILE, He thinks about Sydney who brings out the bright future for him(the restaurant) come on now! I'm completely fine with Syd & Carmy just being platonic friends for now because Carmy is not in a good place to be in a relationship and Syd is HEAVILY determined for her star. If they were to get together, it would only happen in the series finale. & if they don't once the series if finished I'd still be fine lol I am perfectly fine with the plentiful slow burn scenes(more like the table scene) the writers are giving us viewers between them for the next onward season(s). I just love both actors on screen chemistry... it's just too good 🔥 lol Another thing I’d like to add: 1. Syd also has no problem putting Carmy in his place when he’s not doing the right thing and Carmy always uplifts her when she’s feeling negative. 2.someone on twitter & tik tok pointed out Syd and Carmy have somewhat similar tattoos. Syd: 3 of swords in a heart and Carmy with a knife in a hand (idk can someone explain the meaning lol)
The Michelin Star doesn't mean it's worth getting in your car to drive to eat there. It means it's worth visiting another country just to eat at that restaurant.
As someone who used to feel a lot like Carmy, its really not a matter of whether you prioritise a relationship or something else. Its actually about active problems vs. passive problems. In Carmy's life, Claire is a passive problem: he doesnt organise time to spend with her or try and fit her into his life actively. He drops whatever he's holding when she calls around because he's terrified of this one really good positive thing ending, the 'other shoe to drop'. The problem is, this turns work from an active problem to a passive problem, because suddenly what was planned and organised has been instantly derailed, and he feels powerless to catch up when he gets back. It seems like a terrible issue, until you realize it isn't. As the guys on the couch aptly put, he could just call claire back, or set an alarm to call the fridge guy and answer claire's call. This would still leave him with both problems, but have an active solution already in the works. Its weird, but when the brain gets overwhelmed finding ways to make your problems concrete and making choices on when to deal with them is the only way to survive. This is a classic mental health issues when people are high functioning depressives like Carmy. So Carmy draws the wrong conclusion: Claire is taking away from my focus at work, when in truth its his own fears that are doing that. Claire has the potentail to massively improve his time at work by making him calmer and reducing his stress levels down, but instead of solving the illness with a cure, Carmy is reaching to prevent symptoms.
This show trying to hook Syd and Carmy up with other people, but then they have Carmy calm down from a panic attack(about his girlfriend BY THE WAY) by thinking about Syd and give them a verrrry intimate conversation under a table??? Like pick a lane guys
My Think is, The episode starts off with Carmen and Claire doing the nasty right? It made me feel more uncomfortable than like "Yeah, this is true love" Carmen and SYD, All they were doing was screwing some bolts underneath the table, talking to each other. I left the energy, intimate and very personal. The pauses and longing stares, many people miss. phew~
I don't think Carmy and Syd have anything more than friendship, but nothing stops me from finding their relationship more interesting to watch than Carmy's with Claire. I also don't think it was jealousy on Syd's part, because Carmy really was distracted and it doesn't matter how many times a person apologizes if they aren't willing to change what's wrong.
I think that a big reason as to why Carmy and Claire progress so fast is because although we don't know them that well (Claire especially), these two have known each other for a LONG time, since childhood/teenage years. I personally think that they're chemistry really sold that, and it is appropriately awkward at times cuz although they knew each other... they ARE different people now. Kinda like reconnecting with a childhood crush. And yeah, I know some folks didn't like the show veering away from the restaurant, and I get it. But by the end of the season, the show def justified the time it spent on the two.
Very likely Syd friendzoned him. When you ask someone out and they respond in shock, it's usually because they never saw you in that light. Then her response after to him cemented it.
The discussion made me remember the Marcus/Sydney conversation in Honeydew. She said, “I miss you dude.” His reply caught her off guard. That’s when she pulled the freeze frame joke.
I felt so bad for Marcus 😅 He shot his shot and immediately got shot down. I wanted to cry 😭
I feel like either Syd sees them as friends or possibly the show is hinting that she has Lupus like her mom, and is trying to save him the pain.
@@applepie6832just friends lol
@@KimandKamJam Nah, Marcus got the npc syndrome.
"what's going on here?"
Nah he felt the vibes. Welcome to the biggest divide in the bear fan base.
That intimate scene.
He felt it. That was intimate AF.
Even from day to day, I go back and forth with what vibe I think I felt from that scene, haha.
Tell me abt it , and what calmed him down in the panic attack , their banter and how Sydney gets a little jealous. I’ll be so real from being on the sub Reddit for a bit ppl are mad hateful and racist abt Sydney and even bash the actor 💀 it's 2024 and ppl are getting this angry over an interracial ship and suddenly the concept of romantic chemistry don't exist it's just they're good friends
It definitely is meant to be and probably more to her coming from Carmy who pretty much changed her life, but its not the same for Carm. She might be feeling the inimacy but that's all that the show has shown. The fans are kinda stupid with their divide. If they have to focus on each other it has to be as professional chef partners, not lovers. Carmy clearly fucked up and regretted saying that even when he meant it at the time. Can't wait for season 3.
Def a "wait, is this what I think it is? or is it?" moment
lol i was about to say... the carmy/syd shippers have been going strong since s1
lupa having the audacity to immediately shut down roshi for picking up some vibes from carmy and syndey when he himself was wrong about sydney and marcus 💀 LMAO
the fact carmy literally has a panic attack and his mind is racing thinking about claire and his family and the panic attack wont calm, and then as soon as he imagines and thinks about syd he starts to calm down immediately… if that doesn’t show how he cares for her idk what else will
Uncle Jimmy bringing Carmy back to earth. That table scene was deep to me.
"I don't wanna take it from you, I don't wanna knock it down. I will take it from you, I will knock it the fuck down."
I love how real Jimmy is with Carmen.
They’re pretty much family, he’s rooting for him, but both brothers have played him out of a lot of his money. At least Carmy is putting a lot of it into action at the moment.
syd and carmy under the table has to mean something. like the both of them are carrying and supporting the table, which i guess represents the restaurant?
yeah, like they both need to be there for everything to stand.
Makes way more sense than than that stupid love story everyone is trying to push on them.
Any of the Berzatto siblings are bears, Carmy-bear, Mikey-bear, and Sugar-bear. it's a family nickname lol so both are correct
9:00 This monologue about The Cubs, Alex Gonzalez, and the chain reaction of fuckups is oddly a subtly inspiring monologue.
Roshi actually wrong on this one, in the season 1 finale, while the bachelor party is going on and Richie and Carmy are outside talking (right before Richie gets arrested), Richie says "I don't know, he was Mikey Bear" so Sheera was right, they did call him Bear
They all call each other Bear
I think they all call eachother Bear, their lastname being Bearzatto (or smt like that). So Mikey, Carmy and Sugar.
@@aureliamonap Yeah, the "Ber" in "Berzatto" sounds like "Bear" so they call each other that
Nah I’m with Roshi. Syd and Carm got chemistry. Not to mention when Carmy had that panic attack, thinking of Syd calmed him down
I think he was just thinking about what she told him in episode 1 because he’s panicking that he has to live up to that, “the best chef at the best restaurant in the world.”
I didn’t really see him calm down about it.
@@spiraljumper74the music slowed, he took his head out his hands and stopped tweaking. It's mad clear don't deny just say you don't think its romantic
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@@spiraljumper74 he also thought about when she came back after quitting…
THEY ARE IN LOVE PLEASE ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR SALADS or under our table
I also think Syd and Carmy moment under the table was something more because when Carmen had the panic attack it took thinking of Syd to him calm down. And I think Syd has a crush on him.
Roshi sees the vision bc Sydcarmy's chemistry is def unmatched
Roshi was correct when he said there was more to the table convo. You had 2 scenes with deeper meaning than the surface concerning
Carmi and Sydney. The first was when he was having the panic attack and only thinking of Sydney was what calmed him down.
Not y’all gaslighting roshi 😭 that was so intimate 🌚
Sydney Carmy slow burn LETS GOOOOOOO
shutting roshi down by saying he's reading the vibe between carmy and sydney wrong when he's completely right 😭 like the episode starts w/ carmy only calming down after visualizing sydney
i know y'all aren't gonna hear this but good friends and supportive people (yes, people of the opposite sex too) can be that for you without something romantic being involved. sydney is 100%, bonafide, military grade ride or die and he knows that and that relief can be extremely potent when he's basically reaching for the stars. that does NOT mean that he wants to cuddle up to her late at night; ambition and dreams and that pursuit of greatness is an entirely different kind of headspace and mindset and while romance helps, it is not the end all be all; devotion is, and that doesn't need any kind of romance or affection to be powerful.
it doesn't happen often and almost never in media, but this show is mature enough to have that happen. intimacy =/= romance, and when it comes to emotional themes, something complex and atypical like that fits right in with everything else in the show. it could ALSO be that it was romantic, me personally i enjoy the possibility of either
you can't say he's right if nothing has happened yet (and I personally don't think it will)
@@osvelit hi! I see where you're coming from, and, personally would not be upset if they stayed platonic, I love their dynamic and agree that intimacy does not always mean romance! I was mostly commenting from a chemistry perspective and just think they'd fit well together. thank you for commenting :)
It's gotta be racist how ppl are writing paragraphs upon paragraph on how they can never see anything romantic between the two and all scenes with them are “platonic”😭
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the scene under the table is why they deserved those Emmy's man.
calm down it wasn’t that good they was just talking
carmy & syd were giving CHEMISTRY!!!!! BIOLOGY!!!!! EARTH SCIENCES even🤭😭💕roshi knows what’s up
Sheera and Lupa made him think otherwise 😂 he was onto the truth.
Nah, I maintain the point was an actual man-woman close relationship that is platonic.
Theyre trying to silence him but Roshi sees it!!
they mesh better as a friend/sibling duo to me. I think that romance would be a weird and kind of lazy direction to take these characters in.
Honestly, I still don't know lol I think I want them to stay friends - I like their relationship as chefs and business partners. Idk if every connection we see as viewers needs to be a romantic one. Platonic relationships can be just as deep. But I guess we'll seee!
that syd and carmy moment under the table had more intimacy than carmy and claire’s entire relationship.
literally
This whole Claire thing is just so weird and came outta nowhere imo lmao
I think Claire's a great fit, being they've liked each other for so long but DANG, that scene with Sydney was really special. Actually all of them are. Even if you check out the very first time he sees her when he'd forgotten she was coming in for a job, it's like his heart stops and he gets a little flustered talking to her. (maybe I'm just projecting. HAA! cause they're so cute together)
I agree because they have been through so much in a short time. I still think the point is they are close and yet not romantic. That would be a bad move and lazy to me. Claire has history with Carmy, but not as strong for the viewer. Claire herself, or the actor I should say, is great.
It's called platonic intimacy. Y'all ned better friendships
All siblings are called bear maybe even the whole family because if there last names
Don't worry, Roshi, most of the Bear's audience is on your side...if you know what I mean.
I'm with Roshi on this, Carmy and Syd had VIBES going on, in this episode specifically.
At the end of the day, I'm good with both - them getting together at some point or for their relationship to stay platonic. But you can't deny the chemistry because that's clear as day.
Regarding Syd & Carmy, it was the way that 2 lines were delivered by the actors that hinted at possibly something deeper. First, when Carmy quickly jumps in to say “I wouldn’t want to do this without you” - it was a visceral response. He spit that out almost before she finished speaking. Second, when Syd whispers, “you make me better at this.” I think that scene was just intended to be a heart-to-heart talk about their business relationship. It felt like something more because they were being vulnerable with each other. They weren’t flirting, and I never got the sense that Syd was ever jealous of Claire for romantic reasons. She was just pissed that Carmy was making business decisions based on his talks with Claire instead of her. THAT SAID, that discussion under the table felt more intimate than any scenes that Carmy has with Claire. There is great chemistry between these 2 actors, but if anything ever ends up happening between them, I hope that it’s a very slow burn. I’m more invested in a story about running the restaurant than I am about romance.
Roshi asked why for example Mcdonalds doesn't have a Michelin star so I wanted to explain the history of the Michelin star, and why Mcdonalds doesnt have one.
Michelin stars were originally a way to get more people to buy Michelin tires, they wanted to create a demand for more cars and in turn more tires. So they created a "Michelin guide" that included how to repair and change tires, but also included maps with places to visit and more specifically recommendations on restaurants and hotels. The Michelin guide was free at first but after a while they realized that people don't really take it seriously if you get it for free so they upped the quality of it, had "mystery diners" go to restaurants and hotels to and review them. It then evolved into a rating system for restaurants and hotels. However this rating system is slightly different from other rating systems, to get a Michelin star you have to apply for one and when you do they have different people come to your restaurant anonymously and rate you on a couple different factors, including how good the food tastes, the presentation, how fair the price is, and also how consistent the service is across all the different reviewers. The most amount of stars you can get is three and that is only awarded to the best of the best restaurants in the world. There is no criteria for what type of restaurant you have to be to get a Michelin star so technically if they wanted to a Mcdonalds could get a Michelin star, however that is very unlikely.
thanks for listening to my ted talk.
Really any. Cause I remember watching a documentary about different food spots (don't remember the name of the program, it's on Netflix) and there was one street spot in, I think Thailand, that has like 1 or 2. And I think it's so cool. Cause when u hear Michelin stars, u think about those fancy exclusive food spots. And while those are a good chunck, they're way more inclusive. Cause ay, good food is good food
Jolly did a series where they went to Macau and ate a few Michelin star places. One of thoser places was a street food vendor that had a star.
The Carmy and Sid scene was the two taking turns being a kind of therapist for one another. One lays on the floor like they would a therapist's couch, while the other talks them through the real issues they are having trouble voicing about themselves, especially the troubles in regards to how they are dealing with opening and running "The Bear". When it comes to this game, they are totally in sync; it's all the other noise that gets in their way and distracts them both. It's only in these types of interactions, where they spend time and truly talk to one another that they are both grounded in the mission of making "The Bear" a real success, even through all of the noise in their life, whether it's family or their love lives.
Sydney shutting Marcus down is showing she’s more focused and committed than Camry.
She’s just not attracted to him, that’s the main point
Or she’s just not into him like that
@@Keesha_Hardytwo things can be true
She just doesn't see him that way.
@@jaylanthompsonYep that.
I opened a restaurant once and I had just started a relationship just before opening. Definitely did not last with the amount of time I had to commit to the restaurant/program I was helping build at the time. I find Carmy's situation to be super relatable.
I love how we're finally getting to see the restraunt come together with each character returnig with something new to bring to the team. love ur vids guys🔥
Michelin stars were obviously created by the Michelin tire company. This was in the golden age of driving and freeways. It was made as a travel guide for tourists and business people who travelled a lot.
1 star - worth the stop
2 stars - worth the detour
3 stars - worth the journey
Syd making omelette for sugar, is kinda like when Carmy made sprite for Tiff.
I know no one's gonna really talk about it, but I really loved the Cubs monologue that Jimmy gave to Carmy. As a Red Sox fan and baseball fan in general, I know all too well about getting caught up in the heat of the moment.
If you'd wanna learn more that whole ordeal 20 years back, I'd recommend watching the 'Catching Hell' 30 For 30 if you can find it. Good watch and tells you a lot about how getting too attached to a team can lead to taking things too seriously.
You were right Roshi about something deeper being there between Carmy and Sydney , on twitter the show account liked a comment about them being together so I think that's were its gonna head.
Carmy and Syds moment was very intimate, they definitely have feelings for each other, but maybe not necessarily romantic.
Fun Easter egg! The gifted chef jacket was Thom Brown and, at the time, Ayo Edebiri had a contract with them / they were doing all of her red carpet looks (she might still be in that contract I just can’t remember)
Also I encourage everyone to make that omelette expeditiously. Boursin cheese is insane just with crackers but it makes an omelette or scrambled eggs next level
rosh is onto something there hehe, wild to see people who don't see the vibes
ayo said that table scene was one of her fav scenes to film
She 100% isn’t into Marcus, at least not yet. He mistook her friendliness as flirty
Maybe its just me but i think this whole Claire relationship is meant to looked forced as if its something that he genuinely doesn't want, especially with that scene when he was having a panic attack, but idk maybe thats just me
I kind of agree. Carmy being with Claire feels like something that’s tied to his grief over his brother.
I feel like once he heals fully and moves on (sorts through all his emotional baggage) he’ll let go of Claire and move on.
It's not just u
Bro the scene between Carmy and Syd is one of the best moments ever and I absolutely love that scene so much!❤
For Syd and Carmy I think they are laying possible groundwork for a relationship. Because during Carmy's panic attack what calmed him down was Syd. But I think the restaurant will self-destruct if they do that lol.
IMO it’s a relationship of sorts, as in a platonic one based on respect and appreciation for one another. I feel like this story would be so cheapened by anything romantic happening between them. Not enough loving platonic relationships are shown on television, especially in the case of business partners.
depend if they do it right that can be something really good to have them in a relationship@@lucascassol2995
@@lucascassol2995 their romance would cheapen the show?? what does that even mean?? if anything claire's romance cheapened the show because she is literally forced onto us and we're expected to believe that a romance blossomed out of childhood association and helping her move?? their cheap "shared background" should've laid ground work for a childhood friend support imo, not "omg we just randomly reconnected after i went through your friends to get your number, despite giving me the wrong number intentionally, we should smash a couple times and be a thing :D" like...
@@lucascassol2995 Wat
@@lucascassol2995Romance doesn’t cheapen a show, poor writing does. The story the writers want to tell might not center what you personally value, or what you’d like to see, but that doesn’t mean it’s less meaningful or that the story is “cheapened”.
If it’s written well, acted and portrayed well, then it will be meaningful regardless if it’s platonic or romantic.
3:55 thank you editor for the punch sound effect.
I think yall are in denial about Carmy’s and Sydneys dynamic. I agree with Roshi In the way that their bond translates to something a bit deeper. In Carmy’s panic attack; the happy moments of Claire are interlinked with his familial trauma because she’s tied to his past. I think the connection comes from the fact his family (Richie, micheal, & that nerdy guy) kept pushing him towards her during a really traumatic night. He heavily associates her with negative emotions he has to the past, and with his family. He links his family with trauma, dysfunction, fear, and stress & that triggers him. I think the panic attack digresses with the thought of Sydney (the only person in the show that has no ties to his family) because he views her as a calming influence & the thought of him to her means alot to Carmy he really cares about what she thinks in general. Thats why in the flashback she says something like “he’s the most excellent chef at one of the best restaurants in the country“ which essentially calms him down. They both genuinely love what they do and acknowledge and admire each other as great chefs. In a way Syd represents a fresh start for him to purse his own path forward away from the guilt and anxiety he’s so accustomed too.
P.S the song to Strange Currencies by R.E.M plays when Syd appears during his panic attack. The same song plays when Carmy & claire 1st meet in the show. The lyrics have a deeper meaning than a platonic relationship would suggest.
syd and carm is romantic
those vibes are fully romantic
the man literally thought of her and his panic attack calmed down
People keep saying this and maybe I gotta rewatch the episode but I don’t see it. I see him having a panic attack and thinking about the pressure he’s under with Syd’s expectations on top “you were the best chef at the best restaurant in the world,” did not calm him down, imo.
Ikr
@@spiraljumper74rewatch the episode
I actually made that omelette and it was hittinggg😂😩
That Gonzales story HITS. That monologue is so good.
Also, I definitely feel that they're puttin Syd and Carm together.
I have a feeling Roshi is gonna enjoy watching Carmy crash out next episode
Syd took off because it's 25 mins till open and she gotta go be Head Chef lol
I am just gonna say this. The last two episodes make the point that personal sacrifices need to be made and that you have to suffer to create the work you envision. I think this is true for Carmy, because he still has not worked on his mental health but this is not true. You can be a creative with high vision and objectives and be happy.
Roshi was not wrong for sensing something deeper between Carmy and Syd during the table scene😭😭 I ship them together, even if I know it’s not likely to happen rn due to Carmy mental health and the restaurant, their really cute and their connection is beautiful and the table scene only solidified that fact for me so I was excited for yall reaction to it to see if yall also sensed something romantically intimate between those two😭🧍🏽♂️
I honestly can't see them getting together, idk something about it feels weird.
@@ihatetheheat4524 They have the most chemistry on this show.
It would be so ass if they made Carmy and syd get together
Yea Carmy doesn’t deserve Sydney yet. He high key pissed me off this season with all his distractions. He was the only one besides Ebram who didn’t have any character development meanwhile Syd and Richie both lapped him. I hope he can catch up next season but I doubt it cuz Chris Storer loves a tortured self sabotaging MC 😩
@adrianTurbogocrazy Ay listen imo, I don't really blame Carmy for ANYTHING that's happened, take accountability sure but man his position in this show is stressful and he's trying. That's why I like his character a lot. Tbh don't really the Sydney character development, like yeah I see trying to fix her mistakes but... gotta be more than that.
17:08 we got another carmysyd truther. Which is valid because their chemistry is ridiculous.
Syd & Carm are definitely long-term endgame. She's the one who truly calms him, who understands him. Claire has a past with him, sure, but many have mentioned how she can often register as a manic pixie dream girl who re-enters his life to show him the joys of love. But we have little idea who Claire is outside the context of being with Carmy. We see Sydney through it all, and even though she and Carmy can butt heads, _she_ is the one that grounds him, centers him.
Also. If the show didn't spell it out enough, the risotto dish (Carmy helped her strain the etouffeé stock, which is distinctly Creole, just like Syd's dad describes of her mom, and we even see her mom serving her the risotto in a brief flash during her dream sequences) with cola-braised short ribs that Syd keeps dreaming about and working on is her literally *combining* her family's signature dish with Carmy's (beef). No wonder she felt hurt when Carmy told her to keep working on it and perfect it, because whether or not he realized it, he rejected the idea of them together.
But. He said it's almost there. So let's hope with time, as Syd perfects the dish, she and Carmy can perfect being able to talk about their feelings.
if they do it right i do want to see more than friendship between them
@@justlive2809 It'll be slow burn, but I have to imagine it's on the menu.
I think that’s probably the way they’re going, but I honestly think they’re a terrible match. They’re both so neurotic they could each benefit from someone a lot more grounded and not as high strung.
@@spiraljumper74Sir? They literally just admitted that they make each other better at what they do when having a tender moment under the table.
@@thewhatness Yeah, and what they do is run a business and cook at an incredibly high level. That’s not a romantic relationship. Those qualities in a person don’t mean they’d be a good partner. And I really, really don’t think they’d be good for each other in that context.
Maybe if Carmy went to like, a fuckton of therapy first. I don’t know.
Dont let them silence you Roshi! You get it. one of us...one of us...
I think there's def a reason people are picking up on certain vibes. the writers can go either way with it tho so we'll really just have to see.
DO YOU NOT SEE THE SYDNEY AND CARMY CHEMISTRY
Roshi was definitely seeing it but it was shut down immediately/ there chemistry is unmatched
Literally
No.
Yh
On the table scene, when Carmy is venting his concerns and fears, Syd is supporting the table and when Syd is venting her fears, Carmy is supporting the table.
Idk what the writers are planning long term but it’s clear they’re hinting at Syd and Carmy having a distinct, deeper connection. Whether it ends up being romantic or not, we’ll have to wait and see; but it definitely opens up valid speculation into romance being a possibility. Will it happen? Maybe yes, maybe no. But the possibility is certainly valid based on what we’ve seen so far.
y’all could title the last episode the clappening with the way the whole couch been 10 toes down on stuff and wrong the whole time 💀
I think Sydney was so hyper-focused that Marcus asking her out broke her brain a bit. It's like asking photoshop to suddenly be a word processor. She needed to recalibrate.
Or, she just doesn't see him like that. They give bro energy.
@@Cavpal I think both things can be true. As an INTP who sometimes feels more computer than person, I have absolutely had my brain broken this way by people who have pursued me romantically seemingly out of nowhere. A lot of the times it's people I've never been interested in, and sometimes not.
Can someone PLEASE tell me what reaction 17:55 is from 😂
Chefs need a recipe for relationships. Michelin stars are for quality of ingredients and consistency of the execution, and the third star is given out if the chef also owns the restaurant. The tire company created the star system to give people a reason to drive across country so people could buy more tires, for real.
The table scene is a visual of them supporting each other.....first Sidney holds the table then Carmy supports the table while she works on it.....
aint no way yall havent picked up on the syd and carmy romance yet 😭
syd and carmy are 1000% romantic don’t let anyone silence you
LMFAOO ROSHI. bro said the chickens unborn child 🤣 then lupa sayin stfu. that was hilarious 12:00
SYDCARMY TRUTHERS RISE UP!!!!!
I do not care about Claire, just get to whatever Carmy and Sydney are up to.
FACTS
This is my favorite series you guys have watched since snowfall💪
I feel like the show is hinting that she has Lupus like her mom, and is trying to save him the pain. The scene with the medicine cabin, feeling like she wouldn’t have another opportunity to go for her dream, and with what happens in the next episode
Plus if Sydney is feeling Marcus it could be why she turned him down, so he doesn’t have to experience what her dad went through especially with his mom.
Tf is Roshi talking about those aren’t the names of the episodes 😂😂 4:56
The banter between all three of y'all are great BUT roshi got me cracking up like crazy with that Drake comparison 😂😂😂😂
34 seconds ago is wild
Call the fridge guy!!
I wonder if the writers purposefully made Claire’s character 2 dimensional because we are only as invested in her and Carmy’s relationship as Carmy is; which he’s very distant with it. We have no backstory for Claire other than they used to kind of be childhood friends and she appeared out of nowhere so that explains why most of us don’t care for their scenes together.
I could see Claire having a bigger story arc in season 3 and will be an important factor for Carmy’s growth. Carmy has a lot of mental issues to process and trauma to heal from
3:57, can you see me home waiting for the right time… Sydcarmy brainrot had me singing Bags by Clairo during that scene lol 😅
have we not seen the chemistry between carmy and syd like.. at all? 😭
The scene under the table is really good Lol oh man I really love this episode
Guys, please add why women kill season one to your list of shows❤
PLEASE 😭 this show is wild, and has Lucy lu in it!
AIN'T NO WAY yall haven't peeped that Syd & Carmy have a possible slow burn romance brewing since S1 lol. It's so obvious they have feelings for each other but both of them just don't know it YET(or they just dont wanna acknowledge it). If you go back and watch S2E3: when Sydney arrives at the restaurant... look at Carmy's body language when he's near Sydney & then pay attention when the camera cuts to Richie... he peeps there's something between them but he's not gonna say anything!😂I don't understand how ppl like Carmy & Claire together... the panic attack scene literally explains that their relationship isn't good for him, Claire BRINGS OUT THE PAST ESP. HIS TOXIC FAMILY MEANWHILE, He thinks about Sydney who brings out the bright future for him(the restaurant) come on now! I'm completely fine with Syd & Carmy just being platonic friends for now because Carmy is not in a good place to be in a relationship and Syd is HEAVILY determined for her star. If they were to get together, it would only happen in the series finale. & if they don't once the series if finished I'd still be fine lol I am perfectly fine with the plentiful slow burn scenes(more like the table scene) the writers are giving us viewers between them for the next onward season(s). I just love both actors on screen chemistry... it's just too good 🔥 lol
Another thing I’d like to add:
1. Syd also has no problem putting Carmy in his place when he’s not doing the right thing and Carmy always uplifts her when she’s feeling negative.
2.someone on twitter & tik tok pointed out Syd and Carmy have somewhat similar tattoos. Syd: 3 of swords in a heart and Carmy with a knife in a hand (idk can someone explain the meaning lol)
Syd/Carmy truthers RISE
The Michelin Star doesn't mean it's worth getting in your car to drive to eat there. It means it's worth visiting another country just to eat at that restaurant.
I’m sooo for syd and carmy being friends but let’s be real for a sec, that scene had me questioning their entire relationship
Yall the only reactors I watch I love y’all 🎉
As someone who used to feel a lot like Carmy, its really not a matter of whether you prioritise a relationship or something else. Its actually about active problems vs. passive problems.
In Carmy's life, Claire is a passive problem: he doesnt organise time to spend with her or try and fit her into his life actively. He drops whatever he's holding when she calls around because he's terrified of this one really good positive thing ending, the 'other shoe to drop'.
The problem is, this turns work from an active problem to a passive problem, because suddenly what was planned and organised has been instantly derailed, and he feels powerless to catch up when he gets back.
It seems like a terrible issue, until you realize it isn't. As the guys on the couch aptly put, he could just call claire back, or set an alarm to call the fridge guy and answer claire's call.
This would still leave him with both problems, but have an active solution already in the works.
Its weird, but when the brain gets overwhelmed finding ways to make your problems concrete and making choices on when to deal with them is the only way to survive. This is a classic mental health issues when people are high functioning depressives like Carmy.
So Carmy draws the wrong conclusion: Claire is taking away from my focus at work, when in truth its his own fears that are doing that.
Claire has the potentail to massively improve his time at work by making him calmer and reducing his stress levels down, but instead of solving the illness with a cure, Carmy is reaching to prevent symptoms.
My man said putting her ankle into it. Not wrist 😂
this is why Sheera is important here..giving the female perspective!
NGL Left Twix slaps. Dinner of champions.
This show trying to hook Syd and Carmy up with other people, but then they have Carmy calm down from a panic attack(about his girlfriend BY THE WAY) by thinking about Syd and give them a verrrry intimate conversation under a table??? Like pick a lane guys
roshi was actually onto something.
I´m stressing knowing that he didn´t even call the fridge Guy in the end
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of The Bear!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
Honestly I think syd and carmy have really good chemistry even if they don’t make it romantic 😭even though I wouldn’t mind that
Bro you really need to a reaction for Sukuna vs Makora Blu-Ray version. Shits wild
My Think is, The episode starts off with Carmen and Claire doing the nasty right? It made me feel more uncomfortable than like "Yeah, this is true love"
Carmen and SYD, All they were doing was screwing some bolts underneath the table, talking to each other. I left the energy, intimate and very personal. The pauses and longing stares, many people miss. phew~
Ayyyyyye. I made it to the comment highlight! 😂
wait... did the editor put the slap shot? lol
17:10 they are soulmates. i dont make the rules i just follow them
Carmy & Sydney would be good but both need to grow more and gotta have time to chill together outside the restaurant
THE BEEEEEEEAR
AAAAAAAAHH
I don't think Carmy and Syd have anything more than friendship, but nothing stops me from finding their relationship more interesting to watch than Carmy's with Claire.
I also don't think it was jealousy on Syd's part, because Carmy really was distracted and it doesn't matter how many times a person apologizes if they aren't willing to change what's wrong.
I think that a big reason as to why Carmy and Claire progress so fast is because although we don't know them that well (Claire especially), these two have known each other for a LONG time, since childhood/teenage years. I personally think that they're chemistry really sold that, and it is appropriately awkward at times cuz although they knew each other... they ARE different people now. Kinda like reconnecting with a childhood crush. And yeah, I know some folks didn't like the show veering away from the restaurant, and I get it. But by the end of the season, the show def justified the time it spent on the two.
You said it perfectly, the Claire chemistry is a little different but definitely there and more to come.
100%. The time spent with Claire shows us how Carmy needs to grow.