Pillars Of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Review After 100%
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I'm still surprised this game sold so poorly since it's one of my favorite CRPGs in the last few decades.
Worth noting, however, is that the section on ship combat is outdated. The last patch added a new interface to skip the rounds of ships fleeing or closing on each other. Now you just pick an option and it happens, so combat starts right away if you want to board other ships.
I showed the new interface, I just wanted to complain about how bad the text event is
It sold well, it just did not make enough money for investors. Basicaly devs spend way more money on PoE2 than they should, and there way too many investors.
@@MortalReaver Hence why they are going for mass appeal and competing directly with Bethesda with Avowed. Funny how since the time of it's pre-production both Obsidian and Bethesda are now Microsoft owned studios so it will be interesting how this effects things when before they weren't.
TES:6 is a ways off but so is Avowed so they can effect each other similar to how F:NV was rushed out the door so that it doesn't interfere with Skyrim's launch
The marketing for this game was terrible. If you didn't know about it from the kickstarter campaign, chances are you wouldn't be aware of it until some weeks after release if at all. The main plotline is also fairly weak and the game is inaccurately cast as a pirate simulator as opposed to a classic RPG which seems to be a turn off.
This game deserved so much more love. I honestly think it far surpasses the first game, it was one of the most atmospheric RPG's I've ever played!
Not in the writing imo.
would you rather hear “there a settlement that need your help right away” * 500
I absolutely LOVED the AI editor. As an older gamer, I am kind of past the point where I want to be clicking furiously to make the characters do what I want. I am way more than happy to just give them strategies to follow, and just click when something that doesn't fit into the plan happens. IMO there is nothing wrong with watching a game for a while; it's just another kind of playing. I wish more games were like this!
@@One_Sun_One_People dragon age: Origins and final fantasy 12
@@Killibum lol i came here to say this. nice
Its something Ive always really enjoyed about Final Fantasy 12, tuning your team into a well oiled machine
@@One_Sun_One_People You'll enjoy the gambit system from ff 12 imo then.
I spent so much time fine-tuning the AI lol, it's amazing
Worth noting that Kana, our aumaua friend actually has a cameo in the second game. And you can even talk to his sister (I dont want to spoil ho is she, but you can easily figure it out) and learn about what he is doing.
Now now, this is the interesting part. In my playtrough, Kana was died in Defiance Bay so naturally he couldnt make it to the Deadfire islands. And you can have word with his sister abiut his death.
But. You can actually sacrifice one of your companions to a god, in the first game. And if that sacrificed companion of yours was Kana, you can even say this to his sister and including her, all party members (specificially returning companions) has diffrent reactions for that.
It just beatiful Obisidian fill their games with such details.
This game is absolutely beautiful and I love the combat, my only gripe with it was that the main campaign was WAAAAAY to short. Here's hoping we get another one in the future
Yeah, the story felt little bit rushed. Even a few side quests were more intresting like the winter beast of that dark underground island where you had to fight of the reincarnation of..I forgot the name :p
I was shocked when I saw that there are like 7-8 main missions and the rest is all optional side stuff.
When I started playing I just immediately got invested in the world and the colonial conflicts that I didn't even realize I wasn't advancing the plot.
Guess it goes to show how well the world hooks you in, it's a lot like New Vegas in this regard (that game also can be super straight forward and short if you want to speed through the main story)
Avowed is coming out soon!
@@brandonanderson9475 yeah it is but I honestly just wished they did pillars of eternity 3 instead.
Ekera, it was a really incredible game, I say.
I found the games to be technically proficient at nearly every level...and completely souless.
They explain everything in great detail but you dont feel any of it. The local problems are mechanical, parochial and irrelevant to the major quest, and the major quest is metaphysical gobbledygook that is so far above the character's pay grade as to be utterly pointless.
There is no urgency, no romance, no wonder, no adventure.
You play neither a dread pirate, nor dashing adventurer, stalwart defender for your people nor dedicated revolutionary. You're just a strange busy body wandering around doing odd jobs before you decide at some point to arbitrarily deal with some nihilist end game.
Unplayable game on PS4 .
I spent 40% of the game on loading screens, I love the game, but this is disappointing. It took me 90 hours to beat all the game and DLCS, I'm a hero. Around 40 hours at least of loading screens
@@sinisa5567
Is there any difference to playing on computer for 70 hours and having backaches while reading texts? I prefer playing while in bed with a joystick. By the way, Baldurs gate 1 and 2 , divinity 1 and 2 have a good port on ps4, played both.
That's on you for being last gen
@@NoCommentaryPlug
I have a playstation 5 friend, I meant the game is unplayable on ps4 and not " I have a ps4 now". Even though, optimization on playstation 5 could be better, at least the " stupid longer loading screens" got better. This game should be playable on playstation 2, on playstation 4 and 5 should run without any loading time to be honest. It's ridiculous how such a poor-graphic game take centuries and it's so bad opmitized for a console so good as Ps4 and Ps5.
@@iluvatarchem Nikos I also hold a brand new high-tech computer , Why do you guys assume someone never played on a different platform? I'm just saying the game is unplayable on ps4, on ps5 runs smoothly, I even replayed it. And I prefer the comfortability of playing on the console, The point is, they should never release a broken game on the console if it's not ready.
@@iluvatarchem
Exactly, because first I played on ps4 , then I set up a Computer, and some months ago I bought a ps5, in addition , I hold Xbox series S, nintendo Switch , And other consoles that I play once in a while and for me are considered relics already. Happy now? I can complain as much as I want for something I paid with my money and the service was poorly delivered. If you want to give money to a broken service/ product, that's your problem, not mine.
Sad to see that Deadfire didn't do nearly as well as the 1st PoE. I liked it, especially once turn-based mode was added. I really dug exploring the archipelago. Pity that this is probably the final isometric style PoE game that Obsidion will probably ever do, since they're now a part of the M$ empire. I liked that I could carry my PoE character over into PoE2; the world state thing in PoE2 was quite detailed.
I absolutely loved this game, 100%'d it in turn-based mode. Still have those shanties stuck in my head! Massively underrated CRPG.
@@iluvatarchem look at the sales number in total. Its day and night differences compared to Divinity Original Sin 2 so fair to say it is underrated even Pathfinder : Kingmaker doing better in sales
I think this game came out at first with turn based combat support, it would sold more. One of the few things I did not like in first PoE is chaotic combat.
I loooove POE1 and POE2 and I'm very happy you're covering this one! For me it combines the perfect aesthetics (I think it's just beautiful), worldbuilding and gameplay. I love the variety of classes, the multiclass system and (especially) the itemization. The theorycrafting of new builds focusing around the different synergies of (sub)classes and specific items is exactly what I want from a crpg. So if I had one (videogame-related) wish, it would be a POE3: building on the strengths of the two previous titles and maybe even introducing simple dialogue animations / cutscenes that would immersive you even more to the story and world and potentially attracting more players. The sales of BG3-EA suggest that there is a potential audience for AAA crpgs, I hope obsidian and microsoft might draw similar conclusions ..
Obsidian just didn't have anywhere near the resources to make something like Baldur's gate 3. I don't imagine Avowed will be a truly AAA game, it might be more similar to Alpha protocol, Elex, Greedfall in production.
@@7dayspking Yes, that's why I hope that Microsoft might grant them a slightly larger budget to expand the game and the engine a little bit where necessary to attract more people to these games. I definitely don't see a BG3 level of dialogue / animations / cutscenes. But for example the new pathfinder game by owlcat has some simple (not yet polished) cutscenes that add to the atmosphere of the story.
@@Alfados85 I would say the Pillars of Eternity games were larger, more expensive productions than Pathfinder WOTR is.
POE deadfire actually has a number of scenes just as complex and expensive as the opening cutscene in WOTR (Where Deskari carves Kenabres in half with his scythe.) and does do a lot with giving characters animations during scenes.
Unfortunately though, because of Obsidian's adherence to the structure of the original Infinity engine games, which were very open ended and where almost everything that happens is initiated by the player. There just aren't so many opportunities to insert the simple dialogue scenes, let alone the big, complicated animated set pieces except when players get locked into crucial story scenes.
Pathfinder WOTR's more linear, story driven structure allows for more frequent use of these sorts of scenes.
Obsidian's only option really would to develop a procedural dialogue animation and gesture system, but that'd put them into AAA budget territory.
@@7dayspking I see, thank you for your interesting answer! Do you think that the work on a future POE3 (in specific: animations) might profit from the development on Avowed (I guess it won't be the same engine..)?
@@Alfados85 We'll have to wait and see Avowed. Obsidian have made games with dialogue animation systems before, I don't think it was by accident they decided not to use one for POE. They also weren't planning on using much voice acting either, but in response to DOS2's full voice acting felt they had to change that late in development to compete with Larian.
It can have negative consequences in an RPG though, especially when there isn't the time and budget to do it properly like Larian seem to have managed to do with BG3.
I think Neverwinter nights 2's main campaign is a good example of it going somewhat wrong. Feels unfinished, rushed, extremely linear, railroady and half the time the game ignores the dialogues the player chooses because Obsidian I imagine just didn't have enough time to account for and make scenes for every option they planned.
NWN2 ends up feeling more like a rushed, cheap KOTOR than a sequel to Neverwinter nights.
I don't want to see developers try to force voice acting, cinematic dialogue scenes and that sort of thing unless they've got enough time to properly plan and implement it and the resources to do it right.
Hopefully Avowed will carry on the tradition...
is something wrong with me:? i started pillars three times. first time 'thats a lot of reading for my dyslexcia.... got tired around the tower's plot on the east ov the map (was round lvl 15-20). second time (and third) 'i have a great idea for a main character now that i know a bit ov the story!' i fizzle out around the same time. :(
(edit) I vaguely remember beating the main story and starting the white marshes story and fizzling out almost the moment I started :(
any one know a mod that reads to my dyslexia?
One of the nice things with CRPGs though is that because of what aspects of the game get emphasised they always have a good shelf-life unlike your regular AAA titles. There is always a chance that something draws attention back to the game down the line and it gets another chance to shine.
This game is excellent. Probably my favorite isometric rpg. Sad that it didnt sell well.
I don't normally play these type of games. But since I am going to be without internet connection for a long time, I decided to give this one a try since people have said that it is a very long game. Downloading it right now and I feel lost while looking at other reviews/gameplays. This video gave me a basic understanding of what to expect and to think about. Thx.
90% didn't even find "slow-mo" option in this game...
I feel like I'm one of the only people who loved the ship to ship combat
Nah, I kinda forced myself to figure out this minigame and at the end it was pretty satisfying. I run like a control setup, shredding enemy's sails and setting fires until they were pretty much unable to sail at all. Fun stuff
I like the concept. But it’s far far too shallow and repetitive to be a worthy addition. What’s worse, that apparently it was a major money sink - and that money most likely should have been spent elsewhere.
You are not alone, I was expecting to dislike the ship combat but I loved it
Me too; "There are dozens of us! Dozens!"
I find it okay. Sometimes it's even fub but I like naval combat
It’s a pleasure to watch videos like this with a guy that is not just intelligent, but highly experienced too. I’ve yet to play the game but this has peaked my interest. Many thanks.
I loved POE1, Deadfire was almost equally great. Probably sunk 400 hours combined into both games. My only problem was how separated the side quests were from the main story 90% of the time. Also, it did suffer a slight Dragon Age Inqustion story problem, setting up a cataclysmic event, where time seems limited yet for long portions between main story quests you're just traversing about doing other stuff - really fun and well written stuff but there was never any real connective tissue to the main story.
most games suffer from this even bg3
Well there is NOTHING I hate more than games with timers like that shit Kingmaker.
This game is fantastic. Every part of it pours out passion and love for the genre.
What I liked most was the dialog system and the character traits, for example "Honest 3", and how NPCs would react to it. Much better than in other games, especially better than the boring old alignment circle.
Better than BG3, hoping beyond hope they make a POE 3
Pillars 2 is so much better in so many ways, but I just can't connect to the story or the setting. I love the first game too much, haha.
I'm playing Pathfinder Wrath now, and just keep thinking how much better this game is, wrath has nice charater class mixing, but feels much better in this game.
This is exactly how I feel. Obviously the graphic and gameplay improvements are great, but if they were still releasing expansions for the first game today I'd still be buying them.
i'm not that big a fan of pillar's setting as a whole. it's just not that interesting and some of it's ideas were done better in other crpgs like arcanum with reincarnation.
That's true. Story wise pillars of eternity (1) was more interessting and the setting was very nice, but there the endurance and hp stuff was way too annoing, I really liked it that they changed that in deadfire.
I'd really like to see a Pillars Lore series
I'd really like to meet my dad
@@miembrosgibran i really like to meet my son 🥲
Me too man, me too
I would love a lore series, can’t find one anywhere.
@@pathfinder2elatino daddy is that really you?
I sank about 300 hours into this game and loved every moment. Divinity is still my favourite but damn obsidian did a great job! Its unfortunate we won't get a 3rd conclusion to this and the who idea of the gods story line.
What? Says who?
They turned it into Avowed instead
How did you manage that? I finished the game at 40 hours (and got bored halfway, despite that I love RPGs)
@@Brandelwyn maybe cus the combat? It's so good IMO
@@Brandelwyn if you finished it in 40 hours you played on easy mode and missed a lot of content
I played and beat the first game but when it came to the second game the unbearably long loading screens stopped me from finishing it. All in all not a bad game though.
Facts. The loading screens are hell for me
This game was great. Love the voice acting. Narrator, all the gods voices and Tekehu were chiefs kiss.
Well the narrator is the one who voiced Ellie from The Last Of Us
Did not like the game. But did not really like PoE1 either. The combat system is just so dull. Everything just feels weak and uninteresting in combat. Spells and abilities lack the "oomph" of other similar crpg, and enemy health pools are way too inflated.
Most debuffs feel impotent, either lasting too short, or just decreasing stats abit.
I much prefer faster phased crpg where skills and spells from both enemies and yourself feel powerful. A simple lv1 spell in Kingmaker, Sleep can disable a entire room of enemies for a long time, while a lv2 spell. Mirror Image can make your caster go from dying in a single round to an enemy, to not taking any damage for multiple rounds.
The Sawyer balance as its finest form
so you prefer the mess that is Kingmker to PoE? ...cool, I will put you in the *special* person cathegory
@@ricardobernardo3095 PoE1 is certainly better then the atrocity that is PoE2. And i love Durant. But Durant cannot by himself carry the atrocious itemization, class design, and boring combat of PoE.
Baldurs Gate 2 is the gold standard of a good CRPG. Pathfinder get closer to it then PoE. Even though it too fails to get anywhere near BG2 modded, it still atleast tries.
@@ricardobernardo3095 Kingmaker feel like you're on journey while POE2 like you see somebody else journey
@@ricardobernardo3095 Is it the category of people who like deeper and better games. Kingmaker is going to be remembered as the start of something amazing, just look at the buzz around wrath of the righteous, while poe2 will continue to be remembered as the disappointing flop that halted the momentum of an up and coming series.
I have to respectfully disagree here. I’ve playing as many crpgs as I can find with the Pathfinder ones being my favorites and Pillars 2 is the worst for me. It’s actually the worst one by far, with my main gripe being the length of the game. I admit that if you rush the story, the game is short but if you want to do everything then the game becomes a slog. I actually remembered shouting: “Just end already!”. I think the main reason for my dislike of the game is the fact that, if you are not invested in the lore of this world, which I wasn’t, then you will be bored beyond belief. It ends on an unsatisfying point too, with a sequel being all but a dream since Obsidian is busy making cheap knock-offs of Bethesda franchises.
Garbage game, dull as dishwater
Pillars 2 is probably my favorite game from Obsidian. It's their most polished, complete, unique and interesting game to date. It's a shame it sold poorly and encouraged them to ditch Pillars 3 in favor of an Skyrim clone.
Does is have random encounters? One thing that I liked about Dragon Age is sometime your quick travel would be interrupted by a bandit attack, for example.
I’ve been wondering for so long how to have a review system that stands head and shoulders above the rest- bro you nailed it. Stellar review, I bought this game and loved it thanks to your thorough rec!
After 165 hours i finished poe 2 with all their dlcs and i can say that is the best crpg i played.
Cant wait for Avowed.
It’s a good game, but I keep losing interest in it after 20-30 hours of a playthrough. Can’t really put my finger on why I give up on it.
I have played crpg's since the mid '90ies and I have a similar issue: I am in love with creating something, with the mystique and mystery of a new beginning & freedom of starting fresh, but a lot of that magic feeling disappears once into third and fourth acts, to chase down a villain or to end the game. So then, I just start over again. Ny favorite crpg's, I probably started over 10-20 times, only to never even once finish them. Maybe because, after the free-play of a second act, the game's narrative direction can never be the version I play in my head. This is probably why conclusive endings usually never hit the nail on the head, in any medium
@@Cleanpea I find that I’m much more likely to finish a long narrative game if I basically binge it. If I stop for a week or two the current game loses most of its appeal
@@ben5056 This is also true for me, hehe. I often come back tho, but much later
@@Cleanpea yeah, this review makes we want to finish PoE2 (when I have the time ...)
It's the load screens for me but I'm on xbox
For me, turn based made this game go from something I really did not gel with at all to one of my favourite CRPGs of all time. In general though this is a better *game* than POE1. Story was OK and pirates were a joy, but nothing special.
Great game. Terrible ending. It was like they never got round to putting one in.
Was gomna get this but ill becdamned the gamestore wad sold on physical copies. But i got octopath traveler 2 due to your reciew mortem. And got it $30 off.... It seems great
Pillars 2 is a fine wine. WIth age it will be rediscovered by those who had no pallet - and eventually we will get a third. Just got to wait 10+ years.
3rd seems like a cursed number for many devs
I *really* hope you are right.
Avowed is pretty much the third game in the series
I've put hundreds of hours into this game with all DLCs just making different character builds and exploring. Yeah the main story leaves a lot to be desired, but everything else is pretty great. I am very disappointed that there wont be a new CRPG version
Stop crying bro, we're getting Avowed with a huge budget.
@@skundini4999 Avowed? Never heard of that. Wasn't PoE2 huge Flop and sales fail? Where's the budget from?
@@SlayerSeraph Lol, Pillars 2 was amazing, and Microsoft bought Obsidian, hence the budget
@@skundini4999 most of the reviews for PoE2 are very negative or mixed at best, including. There are many ongoing issues and core design flaws compared to cRPG games and even poe1 (which was far from perfect or memorable story wise). Also PoE2 was indeed a marketing and sales FLOP. This wasn't meant to sound like an insult: It failed financially with weak sales and very disappointed unhapy customers and backers.
I haven't played bought or PoE2 after finishing PoE1 due to the combination of being disappointed with PoE1 Story, Characters and Ending - and hearing POE2 is worse in all those regards, and reading so many negative Steam reviews... that turned me off the game sadly.
Mainly the bad writing, anti god(s) rant and annoying, uninspiring and uninteresting plot and characters was the worst part of the game...
That's not to say they can't redeem themselves with Avowed.
@@SlayerSeraph Stop talking
"first time through!" hah!!! only one time for me, crazy how much depths these damn games have, did not think I would be spending 100 plus in this dang game lol
I LOVED this game. I was really surprised to hear that it didn't sell that well. It's really fun, the setting is great, the companions are great and no matter how you feel about the AI system setup - it lets people play as actively as a party with every action or as a single player with stuff already set up. You don't HAVE to do it. Saying all that though - I have gotten to ~5% of the endgame THREE times and have never finished it! (and I can't imagine doing everything again, since I remember it so well)
PoE 2 has fantastic gameplay however the story element is a MASSIVE downgrade from the first title. If I had the patience to go through the first game's tedium, I'd play it again just so I can explore the setting and story. With the second game, I have nothing to play it for except for the gameplay itself.
I liked it, but got tired quite quickly after playing through it (i didn't even bothered finishing all the dlcs at the moment).
First thing for me was the orevall setting ; Huana cultural aspects aren't bad per say, and pirates can be cool, but they don't come close to the fascination the setting of the first iteration conveyed.
Then leveling : i liked being able to reach lvl 20, but you actually reach that point way before the end, making future battles/content very repetitive. Even if i never used the AI system at all, and chose to run a full mage (meaning lots of different abilities).
Third was the quests... main quest is okay but not more than that, you basically understand most of what's going on right in the first hour playing if you completed the first game. No real discovery here, you run along a paved road. Which is sad (i'm on the side of more complex questlines like in 1st game or a Baldur's Gate). Secondary quests can be more compelling, but they suffer from the "effect of shortening", they feel very limited in both duration and geographical travels. Exploration quests and dungeons turn out to be very small and under connected with other places/quests/people, making it more like "a place to get higher in the power-up run and find a bit of loot", rather than adding interesting story.
That being said, combat system if far better than the first (particularly for spellcasters, you don't need to restrain using powers anymore for fear of resting continuously), and they got some fun subclasses. It's just sad the game isn't driving people to play it, it's good but it stops here for me. Sadly. Compared to a Tyranny it's quite sad.
Why this game takes so much time on loading ? Everywhere you go it takes loading.. just annoying. After all that update its not fixed.
I’m a newcomer to CRPGs, and Pillars 1 and 2 were the first two to hook me. I hope we get a true Pillars 3 someday, because no game I’ve found has given me a fun RTP -and- turn-based system.
I liked setting manual pause intervals and keeping my RTP AI mostly for life-support and basic attack targeting. I loved the flow of combat. Most game’s stories lose me, but the voice acting had me hanging on every word, Eora is probably the fictional world I have the most knowledge of, in spite of being basically terminally online in my free time.
ETA: The closing note of ‘game too short’ is an excellent complaint to have. POE2 is the to recommend game for people new to the genre, IMO.
Thank you so much for all these 100% reviews. I was debating between buying POE2/Tyranny/P:K and i think i'll go with POE2 it seems so fun!
It's one of my favorite RPGs ever, so fun. The multiclass system added just what this game needed with the already unique classes. I played through as turn based which isn't the best but I really prefer it to rtwp. Looking forward to avowed
Loved this game until I reached the max level, many hours before the end of the game, then I just stop playing. That level cap killed the game for me.
After like 200h on it I decided to do a marathon: both games in a row with the same character. And really it changes how you can see the game and I liked better the first one with a story that actually took you with it rather than the second one which sounded more like "please watcher do our stuff". Even the White March dlc feels like you're involved in some kind of schemes that are far beyond you. The story of deadfire feels very clumsy and eothas' goals are not very convincing compared to masked man's.
Although if you play both games in a row, it really empower the feelings of your choices because you can see them directly (like Pallegina side quest) and I felt like my watcher got a real influence over Eora.
I love this game, love playing turn based. Too bad they didn't implement it back into the first game too.
i dont like pirates, will i like the game?
My gripes with the game are mostly story based rather than mechanic based. Like, mechanically the game's pretty solid aside from the naval combat of course being underwhelming.
For one, super short for sure at least compared to what I'm used to. Second one being the companions seeming to just not react to story beats even when those beats directly involve them. For a vague example to not spoil anyone who hasn't played: A character literally gets a revelation about their god that should shake their faith but they never address it and you can never bring it up with them even when the god themselves say it straight to their face. Thirdly, honestly the game would've been better served IMO if you played a different character from The Watcher. Siding with certain factions IMO just doesn't fit with the main plotline nor the background of being the lord/lady of a castle god hunting. The stories seem to compete for a theme to give the game especially since the main story tries to stress speed but every other part of the game wants you to take your time and explore. Scrapping the main story and just having the game be about exploring and your actions or inaction deciding the future of the area would've served much better. The companions while nice for some to return didn't have the same charm IMO and I just didn't like most of them or was disappointed on where their stories went and how little I could interact with them. It would've been nice to have had more to actually interact with them. Then there's some parts that would never change and are more so a gripe with the system they use. Feels too restrictive to me and like it blocks off opportunities to learn new stuff during the adventure. Like learning the water magic from a quest or getting more soul powers from crypts. Taking from another game: I think it's something Tyranny did really well in that regard for magic. Finding new glyphs in crypts or from people that know the magic felt rewarding. Going in a crypt and finding a really cool weapon isn't as rewarding when you just can't use it because you're not the right class lol.
11:55 Oh my GAAAAWD! Like idk how, but I KNEW you were going to say Final Fantasy 12! And I LOVE Final Fantasy 12. It’s literally my favorite FF game. I thought the AI system was amazing. I loved it.
Question: as someone who has played through Dragon Age Origins at least 6 times, would you say I would enjoy this? Like are they similar?
I love inter-npc dialogue. Baldurs Gate 1, 2; Prince of Persia, Dragon Age Origins
I love all two games in the series, I can't wait for Avowed.
It's always interesting hearing people discuss how easy or difficult they find the game's combat, because it ranges everywhere from "This game is too easy, I beat the hardest difficulty with just 1 character" to "This game is too hard even though I'm playing on normal"
It simply means that there's a specific way to play the game and if you don't play it like that, it sucks
Just get arna run scion/fighter make big aoe blood bath and dump 300 focus on boss 😂
I think that for veterans of RPGs who understand what combat mechanics should be prioritized - PoE2 may feel too easy, especially if you know where to get good exp and equipment early on. Otherwise it may be very challenging, if not straight forward frustrating, i guess.
Found arna by accident and started a new run bc I wanted to build specific for it. Still mastering ai system but my brain blender is a lot of fun.
After diving into the ai system I found it way too cheesy. Don't get me wrong its great how complex it is what you can do with it but as a result why bother? Every fight becomes auto-wins once you figure out combinations and class mechanics. So it was a breath of fresh air when I returned to the game and found out they introduce turn-base. Now I have to put some thinking into the combat and its great.
PoE 2 sold a lot less than the first PoE because the first game was so incredibly dull and uninteresting. Sequels sell on the merits of their predecessors, PoE 1 sold on the Kickstarter hype and the fanboi reviews it got due to scratching an itch that hadn't been scratched at all in a couple of decades. PoE1 was NOT a good game, it had the trappings of a good game and it had the potential to actually be a good game, but bad design choices along with an almost complete lack of creative vision for the story turned it into a mess that tried to be everything but ended up being nothing.
I dont think youve ever played it...
@@rpscorp9457 I don't think you're very good at thinking.
It's one of few crpg games which worth completing and playing again and again
This game is on my wishlist. Strangely, I can barely recall the story of the first game.
There was a story in pillars of eternity 1 ? ? ? .... The Pillars of Eternity 2 has a better story that keep you in the game compared to Pillars of Eternity 1 where you didnt care anymore or even knew it existed. However, PoE 1 lore is ''deeper''. PoE 2 is better than the first game, you might have to deal with memory leak bug but restarting the game fix it
Great videos, I'm a big fan of post release reviews because they have the benefit of hindsight and patched gameplay for games that released in a rougher state but improved later.
Compared to first game I didn't really enjoy the sequel as much.
The world was too open. You can go anywhere, and that lead to lack of focus.
I didn't connect with the factions, ending was slog and quests were a bit too much running back and forth. And for love of Eothas, do proper ending.
Still bought the game and played it through.
Boarding ships in combat gives a lot more loot, it also provides a farm for XP, food, money, morale, and soul bound item challenges.
When starting and you get a ship assign 1 crew and no food or water. Dont fight anything just sail. Eventually morale will hit 0 and after that your 'crew' will mutiny and you'll get a powerful talent- with no in game consequences other that losing 1 crew.
AI for some classes is kinda weak- its feels good to control your main directly and make algorithms for the rest of your companions.
I gave up on this after 20 hours. The main problem was that I just didn't care: about the lore, the gods, the plot, the world or the people in it.
GAME: So, you're chasing this massive divine humanoid across an archipelago....
ME: Slow down. Where am I? Who am I? Why am I doing this?
GAME: Here's a few large screeds of Deep & Meaningful Lore to explain everything!
ME: So now you're having to *explain* to me why your game is interesting? In-game?
GAME: Uh, yeah.
ME: I'm out.
Your complain makes absolutely 0 sense. What game, what RPG, what CRPG specifically have you ever played that DOESN'T EXPLAIN the situation? Lore is something that every RPG worth its name has and shows you. Why would you want that to be delivered to you OUTSIDE of the game? Sorry if I sound mad, but seriously your complain is so asinine that I find almost impossible to believe you even into this genre in the first place or that you actually played PoE2, because the "Where am I" - "Who am I" - "Why am I doing this?" is literally, LITERALLY explained in the first 10 minutes of the game, before you even create your character. Seriously, Who plays an RPG then complains that the game has lore? Who complains that said lore is delivered in-game and that is needed to get the full picture and understand the world, characters and so on? Just... what?
@@TaigaGaoo I played Kingmaker. I loved it and I never had this problem. Why not? With Kingmaker, anything that needed to be "explained" was revealed gradually and indirectly, by skillfully-written dialogue or through items such as letters. With Deadfire, it felt like "OK, heavy lore-dump incoming... OK, another one...." As I didn't find said lore particularly fascinating, I got bored fast.
Yes, all RPGs have lore, but not all of them are quite so in-your-face with it. I suppose this comes back to basic narrative choices. If your main story presupposes a lot of world-specific knowledge (as it does in Deadfire), you need to find a way to clue the player in, and it's hard to do that without lore-dumping. Whereas if your basic narrative premise is more or less straightforward (as in Kingmaker), then the problem doesn't really arise: there's nothing that urgently *needs* to be explained.
@@johndeighan2495 You sound like a crybaby.
@@michaelpieters1844 😆
Unpopular opinion maybe, but I really like the naval combat turn based mini game. After a few tries, it suddenly all clicked into place, and now I love whittling down an enemy ship and crew, before going in to board them.
I forgot to come back and say thank you. I watched this and finally bought the game. I already loved the first, so this vid helped me to finally make up my mind. Should have been a no-brainer, but I do QA for a living, so I am really picky about what I play for fun. I hope more people get into this one, because Obsidian nailed it for any older RPG fan. Actually for anyone who loves a really top notch RPG.
You only reviewing the game after you 100% it is exactly the reason I subbed, I'm sure its how you gained many of your subs.
Its very nice to see someone who has played it all to give the best review possible!
This my favorite game let alone fave rpg. I dream of another isometric game like Pillars. It is in a league of its own.
Try Tyranny
Divinity: OS 2
Torment: Tides of Numenera
Baldurs Gate 3
Tyrany
Disco Elydium
@@zachcolgrove5660 Disco Elysium is more like a visual novel, got tired it after 15 hours of basically reading a book
@@nguyenproas
Its Amazing!
The Amount of Choice!
The update has voice acting!
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personnaly, i don't like voice acting in isometric RPGs, it feels like someone reading a book to me and i hate it, i prefer to read it myself and assimilate the info at my pace and let my imagination do its thing. And i hate when voice acting are only for NPCs and your character is a mute 😂 If you give me voici acting, i want the whole complete thing, not 5 lines out of 10 and not just for NPCs. Otherwise it feels awkward.
I love how you’re not a know it all but you kinda actually are since 100% every game. Very good reviews. Subbed.
This game is a gem. Really scratches the old school BG itch.
How do you analyse these games? Do you make notes and write things down as you progress? I catch myself forgetting a lot when playing to hit a 100%
I make bullet points as I play
Great review as always. But in my opinion you should really improve your audio, lots of white noise
I actually like the text based ship combat. I also loved the setting and its sad that people are so stuck with their European Medieval Fantasy mindset.
I really liked Wasteland 3. I couldn't get into this game. I keep trying but end up deleting out of frustration. Combat is all over the place for me. Am I searching for the wrong genre? I'm new to these types of games
@@Particle_Ghost Yes training wheels. I need them. I only use brain power for mixing and mastering music. sic
The game is amazing...sad the ps4 port is soo crappy
@@SaucisseMerguez ocasional crashes are the thing that bothers me the most...the looong loadings to be honest you kinda get acostumed
I love this game so much but the LOADING SCREENS ON CONSOLE
I went into this game not liking the pirate thing. But I honestly fell in love with it. And it fits in the world when you dig into it. I kept trying this game but never really getting out of the first island was getting bored. But as soon as you do the game open up so much. And the quests are great. The quests where you can plant the bomb on the piano was great lol.
As much as I liked this game, I prefer the setting of the first P.O.E. The gameplay was much better and I enjoyed the story, but I never got as immersed in the setting as I did in the first game.
I did not get immersed at all in PoE1. Tyranny was the exact opposite for me. It was so engaging and more down to earth, easier to get immersed. Actually i would've love to see more Tyranny than PoE but it's not gonna happen, sadly.
PoE 2 slowly became one of my fave cRPGs of all time. The world is just so different compared to a lot of cRPGs out there - really enjoyed the whole native vs colonizer narrative. The combat is also fun as hell, it was always hype when you score a crit and the game slows down as they blow up lol.
If you want different. Look at Spiderweb Software's games (Geneforge 1 mutagen a remake of the original and Queen's wish were recently released.). I'm not trying to recommend necessarily but their worlds, stories etc are quite unique. Spiderweb were actually making these style of RPGs before Fallout 1 (1997) and Baldur's gate (1998) were released. Far as I can tell Spiderweb were one of the first to make this sort of game.
@@7dayspking ooo thanks, deffo going to check this out!
@@Zynosphere Definitely check out a bunch of reviews, videos and maybe someone playing through parts of them before buying though.
They're much lower budget than all of these RPGs and are more similar to games from the early-mid 90s in their accessibility than they are to modern RPGs.
I think Mutagen (remake of Geneforge.) tried to alleviate some of that though.
that slow thing got tiring after a while
The setting of the second game is what killed it for me unfortunatelly. Gameplay wise good but the setting a big turn off.
As generic as it is, I just love the default fantasy setting of forests, dungeons, bigger medieval cities etc. Here the islands, the caste system and the villagers, the pirates(why...? ) just turned me off incredibly efficiently from the game. Just wasnt able to get invested at all, it all seemed very alien and in the wrong way.
Game sold poorly enough that we will never get a third continuation , what a mess of a decision to go this way.
Avowed it a third continuations
I love these games! Thank you for your review; I did not know there was so much out there to explore that was actually worth exploring.
I've been on the fence about buying this game for years, thanks for helping me finally make up my mind in picking it up!
Good job, Morti. I pretty much concur on your assessment of POE:2. I really hope they continue the RTwP isometric series. Hell with Tyranny as well. Anyway, good luck with the station and keep up the 100%'ing.
RTR.
The worst thing about this game is gods and their conversations, which cannot be skipped. That part of storytelling is really weak and should have been omitted.
Despite bad storytelling (especially Eders and Aloths stories), game is very interesting to play and offers good replayability.
Ship combat with guns could be better, but skipping that and boarding immediately is kind of a relief.
There are plenty of mods and experimenting with them is also interesting.
More could be said, but those who love this kind of game will find out for themselves.
I think I understand why this game didn't do as well as the first one. Just got to Neketaka and did a few quests, and the multiple slangs is really quite confusing, thats strike 1. It's a nice touch, but there's just too much, like how too much of a good food can make you sick level of too much.
Secondly, it really felt like nobody is giving a rat's crap about the impending apocalypse. Unlike the first game and the hollow born crisis, everyone knows something fucky is going on, and they are trying to fix it in their own way, while deadfire is the complete opposite. Felt like there's just no agency and that nobody cares, this mood can easily spread to the player, like how it's pretty much spread to me. Why bother with the stupid giant statue? Let's deal in petty politics instead.
I absolutely loved PoE1 but could never get into Deadfire. Maybe I was just awful at the game, but I could never afford virtually any of the ship upgrades, let alone a new ship, so any time I had to sail anywhere was a massive headache. I also just wasn't a big fan of some of the class design changes.
Poe 1 for me is a better experience, it allows roleplay. I find Poe 2 harder to roleplay beacause you start as the watcher from the first game. just my tuppence worth.
you can edit the AI in this game?
wow I didn't know this AT ALL and I just turned the AI off and micromanage everything
anyway, I like Pillars 1 better because the story is more engaging for me
Chasing down the destined enemy of your past lives and decide what to do with the souls of the hollowborns is just more interesting than the story in Pillars 2
The writing in this game is top notch
I really love this game and its franchise cause it introduce me into the CRPG genre but other CRPGs, while good, pale to comparison with this game.
Why? Writing and Dialogue BABY!
Some choices are so funny and well written to the point that I cannot stand the boring dialogue (generic good/bad guy) anymore and just want to be a smartass all the time just to mess with NPCs.
But the major issues that weight this game down for me are 3 things.
1. Memory leak. I noticed that in your review there are some footage that show the stutter and fps drop so I assume you had this problem as well. While not the end of the world but like you said "annoyance".
2. Romance. I like romance (Baldur's gate 2 and Bioware ruined me) especially when it's well written and have an arc and dialogue that help building the relationship. While this game has romance but let's just say it's disappointing although I understand that this is the first time Obsidian doing romance so I can forgive them but it need much more work which I know they can do it (but Josh hate it for stupid reason).
3. That one companion quest. You know? the quest that I know I fucked up after I done it because I trusted that companion words? and still when I go back and correct my mistake but still get the bad ending because the Dev decide to make the outcome have 50/50 chance? Yeah.
I stopped playing when I realised that my Barbarian needs to have a high intellect. Gave it another chance and wanted to play a mage/sorceror, then I realised that they should have high Might. So my spellcaster suddenly is better at lifting shit than the Barbarian .-.
The Attributes are so stupid
This game is a broken mess on Console. I have it on my ps4. I'd love to play it but it crashes approximately once every 30 minutes....
Knowing how much reactivity is in this game, I can only assume that 100% completion just means all quests and/or all achievements. There's so many dialogue permutations, classes, and narrative choices you'd need to spend easily 1000+ hours seeing it all.
Top marks for Pillars 2. It's better in every way than its predecessor. I put twice as many hours into the second game and really sought to go to every tiny island, delve every dungeon, and finish all of the quests. While I only played through once, it was as near to a 100% game as I could manage on a single run.
I just came here because the bundle is on sale. Looking at this video, why is the game so gorgeous but I haven't even heard of this?? Great video, instant buy.
I absolutely love the pillars series! I played the first game fanatically and now I’m even recording my playtrough of the 2nd game for TH-cam! I hope they make a 3rd installment
It's funny because I loved both games but for poe2 Story and plot is definitely worse than poe1 and shorter, but also feels more unique. Combat is a little better and more customization goes a long way, thank god for multiclassing. Ciphers in particular remained unique and very powerful throughout both games. Exploring the dead fire is more fun compared to the very compact map of 1 even if the ship combat gets quite old fast.
Performance-wise poe2 is really subpar I find that fps drops and the game really chugs in populated areas but that's mostly because of the unity engine when it really shouldn't be that performance intensive. The cast as well feels a lot weaker and sidekicks only feel like wasted potential. Ydwin especially feels like this, even though they tried to make it up to us in the expansions it still isn't enough for a character that was close to becoming a full companion.
poe1's story, cast and setting are better, but poe2 wins in the gameplay and customization department .
Personally when I'm given a choice between turn based and real time I will generally choose turn based. I'm pretty patient, which I think helps with this, but I just personally love turn based due to the insane things I've been able to do in it vs in real time.
I had more game overs by ship combat than by everything else combined and I was sure it was objectively terrible too. But my ship kept getting wrecked and I couldn't outrun them so I did so much of it that I turned it into an infinite money farm. But yeah, the ship combat seemed like some sort of late-phase feature-creep addition or something. It was a prototype idea even at its best.
The big other problem was that I hit the level cap long a bit before the final mission so I lost interest because my characters couldn't get any stronger and by the end my loading screens took several minutes.
I noticed there are no dark character classes available for example necromancers, witches, and dark wizards...
Yeah 10-20 hours is perfect game length. Not short by any stretch. Short is like 5 hours. I'm tired of long ass games. Especially with just how many games are out there. Plus the amount of replayability here is insane. So it doesn't matter that your first run is 20 hours max. I still haven't beaten the Witcher simply because it's so fucking daunting. And I actually love that game. Just can't spend all my time in a single game.