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KISLEV Army Guide - Part 1: Roster | Warhammer 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- A guide to the faction of Kislev's army and how to play them. Starting by going through the roster of each unit to understand their capabilities and roles on the battlefield. Part 2 will cover the tactics and strategies to best use them! [Coming soon]
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The Boyar has surprisingly high armour considering he's fighting with a bear chest.
And bearly anyone noticed it.
Thats why I had to wait for the guide for so long BECAUSE THERE WAS A FRICKING THIRD LORD COMING FOR KISLEV HOW AWESOME IS THIS!? =D
Ok wtfI thought Boris Ursus was just a prank
Really, when did they say that?
Saw more of the video, never mind.
Lothern ice guard looking great, cant wait for ai stacks of them.
At least they're not ap.
Terminally underrated comment
Sisters of icelorn lol
I just realised from this video that some of them are actually wearing big fluffy girly headbands. I always thought all of them were wearing hats.
They shall be billions.
"I want to see Skarbrand riding a Cultist!" I lol'd.
Rule 34 artists: *Heavy Breathing*
Total Kink: Warhammer III
The Patriarch hero is Zerkovich. The resemblance is uncanny.
That's why he keeps saying Lords on heroes. He wants Katarin to ride him.
@@IIBloodXLustII Can't blame him tbh
yo wtf
Ra ra Rasputin, lover of Kislev's Queen
@@argokarrus2731 This version:
Ra-Ra-Rasputin, HATER of the Russian Queen
The game should include links these army guides in the help section. They're perfect for learning new factions quickly and understanding all the different numbers and abilities
You mean putting TH-camrs out of a job?
@@kennethma861 Umm, no? I just meant it would be cool if CA recognised Zerk's hard work and dedication to the series
I appreciated all the "below 50 %" abilities.
With high elves, if they receive a couple volleys before clashing in melee, they have spend half of their buff before even entering melee.
This however, because it triggers later, will make kislev extra tough when it matters.
Positively impressed on the kossovite dervishes, ca rarely gives low tier cav a solid charge bonus. This should really help them to make short work of most ranged units.
Yeah I think he underrated the Dervishes’ offensive power, with that solid charge bonus it ranks as pretty decent light cavalry damage wise compared to other races… however with no shield and a pathetic 15 armor they are weaker defensively than their counterparts, quite fragile indeed.
@@briancline7349 not to much more squishy then the elf ones. The elf light cav is probably a bit stronger, but it's really good compared to tomb kings/brettonia.
the high elves also don't have lords on heroes. 🤣
@@zebjensen4251 Lords on heroes to op plz nerf
@@Olav_Hansen just imagin nikai riding a skink or the meow yin on an alchemist or any number of other combos. 🤣
Ice guards reminds me of shades without the armor-piercing missiles but magic damage instead.
for me they are like human sisters of avelorn)
@@KeterGold Sisters of Kislev
Snow leopard is gonna be a great unit to finish off large fleeing targets that may regen and or come back to the battlefield.
Just for you to know: I have my lunch hour at precisely this hour when news come for the game. I have been thoroughly enjoying having faction rosters, info on mechanics for the game, etc. From your channel while eating. Cannot wait man:)
So basically all of Kislev's rosters are units with ranged attack and decent melee stats+ bears.
There's a leopard too.
I'm still trying to figure out if I should use ranged or melee against Tzeentch units. 🤔
@@ctdaniels7049 Quite sure the bears would do
By far the best and most useful info regarding WH3! These army previews are great. You get a simple and interresting overview which would help for the future campaign. Much better than lenghty legendary campaigns of other streamers when they just try to find their way how to graps each new faction…
This roster is so solid, it really is the best one and not the one I was most hyped about until now.
All faction units look great but i think the Kislev units are really well detailed and all in all look great.
Not to mention the roster are abit more larger, more diverse with all the hybrid & flexible units.
Great guide! I hadn’t thought a lot about Kislev, but they might really be my starting faction.
It's interesting on how almost all infantry units can deal some damage at range, and how almost all ranged units can handle themselves in melee. I like that. It's a "I'm not trapped here with you, you are trapped here with me" situation
Well, that is very Kislev of them. Constantly being in the shadow of Chaos tends to make a people tough
Usually that's bad tho. Jack of all trades master of none, if you can keep your ranged units protected they'll be much better if they're ranged only compared to having some decent melee but never use it.
"I wanna see Skarbrand running on Cultists"
N’Kari : "That's MY thing !"
SKARBRAND HATES WALKING!! * grabs nearest cultist *
A lot of other video guides out there aren't much more useful than a run of the mill wiki guide. I've always appreciated that this channel doesn't just list the units but helps to interpret what their stats mean and how to strategize with them.
15:37 it's not uncommon for Karl Franz to be riding his General's of the Empire during tough times.
BRING ME TO MY MEN
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS!!!
One of the most important combat stats is hit points. Don't forget to mention those when summing up a lord/hero's combat effectiveness
Kostaltyn seems really cool! We dont have enough support lords like him.
He would have been a lot cooler if he got some unique mount like a shrine of some kind
I agree with you both. Easily my first lord in 3.
@@zernst2798 He does not need one and a shrine would mean that he really is just Kislev's Volkmar.
@@PG19871230 Well he is a warpriest so thats pretty much what he is. But Katarina on a sled and him on a shrine would add diversity to kislev mounts
Well, I did champaign with him, and got to Belakor, but my army of armored kossars, strelsi and horse archers can't do much, and I can't auto-resolve, for some reason.
Ahhhh love these roster breakdowns! Was waiting for this!
My favourite roster atm. All units look amazing and the playstyle looks flexible to build different kinds of fun armies.
Would love missiles with vanguard deployment but oh well let's hope for dlc
im not sure yet how excited to be, i love the versatility through a shittonne of dlcs all the rosters have now in wh1+2 and yes i know a lot more will come for the new once guaranteed, but until then... well i dont see so much buildpossibilities in any of the new factions, i mean how many different units are there? 10 per faction? thats kinda meh.
@@Chris_KAy Couldn't agree more, very low versatility compared to what we're used to but that's a new AAA game for ya.
The LIGHT WAR SLED did recieve a nerf in patch 1.1. Their armor is now only 50. But, can be upgraded through lord buffs to around 60.
Just thought i`d mention that.
i love how the kislev men are voiced by the "slavic" voice actor in Medieval 2 total war.played the voices for Hungary, Poland, and russia i think
I was hoping for a human faction but empire is too quick to retreat for my taste. Kislev definitely more tanky with more leadership and that unbreakable ability, i also love to uses guns, so eager to play them.
Bretonnian elite knights don't run away much either
I would suggest you to play WH2 Brettonia with the Radious Total War mod. Thats what human factions needed. Lots of new
strong melee infantry and missile.
@@dearghostl.a6737 in radious every faction got everything
Sounds about right. No soft town dwelling folk in the Kislevite army.
Right now I am playing Kislev like the tactics applied in Napoleon, Empire or Fall of Samurai.
17:34 And...
Then the Winged Hussars arrived!
I just hope the Game One factions can compare to this... especially my poor empire
Look up units mods for the empire. They are amazing. Alot of new artillery, the reikgsuard infantry plus many different knightly orders.
empire def should, but i think this is a hard counter for vampire counts because they have 0 ranged, and seems that every unit of kislev is a range hybrid
@@tzad2104 Seems to be a very small army though. No units with more then 68 models, while most factions have lots of 100-120 model units.
@@tzad2104 Khorne will shit on Vampire counts already.
@@bortoo6634 aye
Ngl Kostaltyn looks a lot like Rasputin. May just be me but he really does. I like how they’re sorta based off of the Russian empire, it’s cool how the names are sorta play ons to the real world counterparts (Kossars -> Cossacks).
Ko Ko Kostaltyn, hater of the Kislev Queen! There was a cat that really was gone!
A big lack of light/medium artillery for them. Would like to see some horse drawn guns (more mobile but smaller damage then the empires).
They should have them since there are no flyers for them already (that is ok lorewise), but to also miss out on the arty?
Dlc units probably.
Yeah, figure similar to how high elfs had no anti armor options at launch the artillery is lacking to push a lord pack that'll come rather early in the dlc lists. I guess on campaign you can hire empire arty with alliances but still, Kislev I thought used to have some arty options. The kislev reborn mod grand cannon feels great for example, massive thing by no means good to make up an artillery line to rival emp or dwf but amazing at reaching out and making itself felt.
I think the gun sleights will be really strong. Im gonna make an early OP call. They're what war wagons should've been. Faster and with more damage/charge and more people shooting from them with tons of ammo.
Yeah, you could fit double the amount of people riding on those things and give them larger rifles (hence more damage per shot) because they can use the sides of the wagon as support for the weapons, and give halberds for the two frontal units to use when charging. But I think just the ranged buff could be enough since they could work as 360-degree firing arc version of the Outriders. Double the amount of horses too to make them faster to do that job better.
I’ve only achieved long victory in 3 warhammer games.
Medieval 2 total war with France, Wales in kingdoms, and Kislev.
Now I feel time to also play multiplayer again.
Little Grom looks more like a mortar than a cannon.
It’s more like a bombard
Was hoping for a cannon but Little Grom will have to do lol.
This is the most badass army roster I have seen so far in any Total War Game
68 unit size? CA you where so close to greatness.
First mod on Steam: Unit Size +1
Description: Nice.
They're saving that for slannesh. 😁
well it is the standard size for missile infantery in warhammerTW in large unit size
I love your work. It is always very informative. If I may make a small suggestion. When showing mountable lords and heroes. It would be amazing to get a shot of said lords/heroes on said mounts. I know it is a bit more extra work and you do so much already. But just a suggestion.
when you said lords on heros I was borderline dying of laughter thank you for that I appreciate it.
18:54 That's exactly what I'll call them. Because that's what they are. I so hope to manage to create a situation similar to the battle of vienna.
Lords on mounts, lords on heroes, lords on lords, just general lord-action!
Sounds like an army that's at its best when its back is against the wall. Really interesting. I think I'm going to really like this faction (I might end up in situations where my back is against the wall more than I'd like to admit >.>).
Seems kinda like they have some similarity to Lizardmen and Dwarfs in that, in the "You're getting your ass kicked, but they break and flee first" sort of way.
Except bears, instead of artillery or dinos.
So what I got from Kislev's playstyle with this guide: *HYBRID UNITS. LOTS AND LOTS OF HYBRID UNITS.*
I'm so fucking happy Boris is in the base game. I was really bummed when I thought he wasn't. Nice surprise to wake up to today.
I want to see a lord riding a hero. Specifically imrik, greatest of the Dragon Prince's, and his fire wizard Mikaela. Or maybe the other way around I'm sure that his Royal Swaggerness wouldn't mind letting the sorceress be on top
Can't wait for Immortal Empires. Want to hire some of these and Cathay's units for Belegar Ironhammer.
The charge bonus is suprisingly weak for the bear cavalary
They are not chock cavalry, so they should not have a good charge bonus.
It's fine the way it is. They're most likely going to have extremely high mass, which means they will push into enemy units further than other cav and disrupt them just as much or more. Then on top of that they're more effective in prolonged combat, making them capable of more damage output with less micro.
Makes sense considering bears arent that fast (compared to horses)
@@mr.joesterr5359 Grizzlies can run around 35mph soooo might want to rethink that XD
@@jademerrydown2943 You might want to rethink your comment since a horse can run around 55mph which is 1.6 times as fast, so bears in fact aren't that fast compared to horses
Elemental Bear giving me serious Godzilla vibes and I am here for it.
Was about time we got to see kislev.
These look great, the first human faction I am interested to play.
Especially with how many of their units are hybrids, its pretty sick and unique.
woa these character models are awesome. such epic armor!!
"By our Blood" sounds a whole hell of a lot like "Sigmar forgot about us"
Every daemon gangsta until BORIS URSUS shows up
"Wait, Lord on Heroes?!" xD great idea!
Thank you so much for the guide - this is exactly what I needed to become a Kislev main.
Very cool army. Looking forward to doing my Ogre campaign then trying the challenge co-op run for Kislev
Overall, nice race rework, Kilsev feels quite unique fro human faction
You want to see lords on heroes? Come on Zerkovich. As one of the boyz you should know there's already Skarsnik and Gobbla.😁
Would do these on Ultra unit sizes since that's the basis for balance now -- otherwise, thank you and great video!
I see one problem with the snow kitty. A fully juiced Skarbrand (in campaign) can one shot it with its 3-3.5k weapon strength. I know the ai will have a problem getting that high of a weapon strength, but that poor cat just has such little health...
Torn between Winged Hussars and freaking Bear Calvary. Will be my first faction to play as.
Since imperial wagons similar to those sleds are considered a waste of gold I'm afraid it will be the same with these two, despite nice-sounding armor piercing.
Holy shit it feels like I've waited years for this vid. Cheers mate!
I like this roster a lot, looks very flexible and every unit seems to have a pretty clear role. You can adjust in every direction by choosing the units carefully. I like it much more than Cathay, which I fear could be very one-dimensional
I don't like how Cathay has to stand still. That's like a bonus that isn't a bonus, it's more like a sacrifice. Yin Yang can actually boost performance, but standing still could lower performance. I think that's why they're so weak in MP so far.
@@will.roman-ros but since Cathay has superior ranged units to almost anyone, they can force the enemy to engage them on their terms. You just need a couple fire rain rockets, sky junks, or cannons.
@@lukeberghaus272 you may be right, but gameplay I've watched, I rarely see Cathay win or use those units to good effect. Bc if they field even half their army as missiles, the infantry are too squishy to defend. Less than half missiles and Cathay doesn't seem to have the killing power to win, unless they have 2 sentinels, which appears their best build. So the best builds utilize their single entities (LL, heroes, and sentinels) and flying cav, not their infantry, missiles, or sky junks. Against Nurgle, sure, missiles are prob best builds.
I simply haven't seen Cathay missiles "melt" anything. I assume the lower reload - without harmony, means they get less volleys before the enemy gets tied in. And bc harmony means the infantry have to be close, a monster stopped 35 m away, is so close to just initiate a charge on those missiles, and Cath arty further back, needs like a cheap melee unit to get its harmony, where I assume the already longer reload for arty would suffer immensely without harmony.
So in all this, my greater point is that harmony attracts one to pick a less effective army (eg: you didn't want a cheap melee unit, or didn't want a sky junk, but did so for the buffs), and after that suboptimal outcome, on the battlefield you now have to position the suboptimal army - sub optimally. Or, you sacrifice the buffs - meant to balance the faction, for your ideal army comp and positioning. So you pretty much never get an optimal outcome. Cathay appears to lose a lot for all these reasons.
@@will.roman-ros I’m actually surprised the sky junk isn’t meta vs Khorne or Slaanesh, and the cannon against Ogres and Nurgle. Fire Rain Rocket itself is the most awkward one to try and make work though. It seems like it should stay as a potential reinforcement to bring in if the enemy massed infantry.
@@lukeberghaus272 khorne and slaanesh still have furies and bloodthirster. But otherwise, battles I've seen Cathay balloons and arty, they were not impactful enough for me to care, as long as i got tied in to melee. Cathay is better off bringing xbows and infantry. The flying cav and sentinals are their power melee.
"Lords on Heroes.." *laughs, while a mental picture of Boris mounting an Icemai... Realisation."NOW WAIT A MINUTE..."
"I want to see Skarbrand riding a Cultist!"
Where is Tarriff?
I’m sure we’ll see lords riding heroes when the embargo lifts for Slaanesh 😈
Has anyone told him that the game is now balanced to ultra unit size... That also includes multiplayer....
At last. The Ice Queen of Narnia.
Skarbrand riding a cultist. My man you just gave R34 artists something to do.
R34 and artists are barely interested in Warhammer anyway from the few amount of art there is out there, you can thank GW for that.
Love how the units look, though I will say I'm never a fan of the cold factions having so much exposed skin. Hell the Kossars don't even have sleeves.
Getting some serious "His Dark Materials" vibes from Kislev
I just realized liil' Grom is a chariot! Not one of the best, but if some infantry flanks you, you can use it as a chariot to defend itself until something can pin down the enemy for it to escape.
Loved how he accidently called winged lancers winged hussars
Lords riding heroes is more of a slaanesh thing than a Kislev thing.
''doesn't end well with 15 armor against other lords...''
Hellebron : Zerkovich, am I a joke to you ?
Yes.
You know after about a year with the game, I use the armoured kossars as a free company militia type of unit. The penalty for leadership being shot in the back with the ranged damage leadership penalty is quite good. Once they are out of ammo you charge them in for the decent melee damage.
Edit: Also despite the ice bear being called crap by the comunity, they do make a good Distraction Carnifex.
volkmar watches this video every day up until he makes his invasion into kislev
YES YES YES FINALLY
I kinda wish Zerk would talk about health amounts a bit more. Two thousand health doesn't seem like a whole lot for a single entity war beast, especially with wounds.
haha, some of them are even squating! Nice detail :P
Great vid as usual! That being said, other than from LegendofTotalWar, I have not heard anything positive on cavalry aside from the various monstrous cav units. What is the verdict? Is a 72 charge for Griffon Riders and a PALTRY 38 for Bear Cav enough? Looks like I will be tweaking shock cav at the start of playing yet again...
I don't know why, but it is amusing to me that something that has to be pulled by two polar war-bears is described as "Little". Cant wait for a DLC that adds BIG Grom.
I hope there's one in the middle just called Grom.
Okay, thats it im going Boris Ursus first campaign! He sounds right up my alley!
I think you actually have to unlock him. Could be wrong, but that's what I was reading.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Ya, i found that out in another video, damn. :(
13:26 damn some of those Tzar guard will bludgeon you with the sword instead of cutting you lol
Lords on heros
That is a thought worthy of a mod
Imagine Konstaltive preaching on the back of a patriarch who is also preaching
You can make the winged hussars arrive with this faction.
Skarbrand on a cultist.... Definitely number one on my wishlist for the mod community.
Tzar Guard and Armored Kossars literally having the same model is... interesting.
I could have sworn that Tzar Guard were supposed to have full-sleeved, Druzhnik type armor, instead of the Kossar look
I love elsa so much... She is perfect in TW: Warhammer 3 yay!, my first campaign must be her and her polar bear!
The one we've been waiting for 🐻❄️🥶😎
What I've noticed, little grim is great against nurgle and the enthusiasm sniping down lords. Combined with a storm mage makes it a icbm.
The elemental bear struggles hitting infantry, I think there are issues with its hitbox. Watched one die to a unit of plague bearers after 5-10 mins of stomping and swiping and missing. Either that or the plaguebearers were heal tanking it.
Kislev it is then! Wil be my first campaign whit Boris. Thanks for the vid!
You’ve heard of “it’s also a gun” now get ready for “it also has a gun”
Still waiting for the Lords on Heroes unit! You are on to something
Kislev looks awesome.
Anyone else thinking of a ranged doomstack of Streltsi up front, ice guard glaives behind them, cannons in the back and some bears on the flank? SHEEEEEEEEEEEESHHHH
Lords on heroes, still waiting for Dwarf shieldbearers
Boris has a Shardblade? But does he have shardplate too?
Is that a reference to the storm light archive books?
You're a king thanks for this
King or Tsar?
Will we get part 2 ? 😅