It's been a long time since I saw this movie but I remember a scene where Stevie and his Dad are in a restaurant talking about school and Stevie basically tells him how he cheated his way through school BUT the Dad basically said "if you didn't care about school why did you make the effort into cheating" and to this day that scene still sticks w/ me to this day.
Love it too. It shows his dad truly knows his son. He doesn’t get mad that he cheated he reminds him u must care about your future if u wanted to pass.
Yeah, his son is an entitled, spoiled piece of shit. His dad worked his ass off so he can live a life of luxury and have plenty of financial freedom to live out his phony "rebellion".
@@roblangada4516 This has been my major problem with the whole punk ethos that ate up my high school and college years -- a problem I only later recognized the weight of. The society I hated provided the stability for my father to work hard and provide for us. Nearing 40, I've learned personal responsibility accounts for the vast majority of the injustices I used to gripe about. Still they've got some dang good music.
I love that no matter how much of a sellout/dork/whatever you want to call him he is, Stevo's dad is actually really supportive of whatever it is that Stevo does. Even if he doesnt fully understand how Stevo thinks of things, its clear that he actually loves and cares about his son, and both wants his son to do what's best for himself and also do something that will better his life.
Thats why when Bob and Trish told him the girl they were gonna introduce him to at her party was a rich girl, he very self-awarely says he's a rich boy too. With a little disdain but fully aware that his parents gave him plenty of love support and freedom to prove them right in the end.
@@andrewcook1246 Yeah. Things like that are what makes this such an awesome movie, with this being a really big part of it. It doesnt diminish the plight of the many poor friends who Stevo has, shows that rich people can have very real and meaningful solidarity with their poor friends, while also not demonizing rich people either by showing that Stevos parents actually love and support him, even if they dont quite get what he is doing. It does a great job of humanizing all of its characters, regardless of what their background is, and especially making a point about how all of us regardless of background can make a difference. This is especially true because Stevo is our protagonist. By having him be a rich kid from a rich family, it makes a great point how everyone can see the same issues, and also how oppression is not jus the plight of the poor, we just have different resources in how we fight against that oppression, with Stevo eventually recognizing what his position in society is and being able to take his experiences hanging out with the marginalized members of society and be able to translate that understanding into him using his law degree to fight the system from the inside.
I think it’s arguable that he actually does understand how Steve o thinks of things. It’s been 24 years since I first saw this film and I love the writing even more at this age! Brilliant.
"They're not going to get this in New York..." It's such a good line considering how significant the punk scene was in New York, especially compared to 1980s UTAH lmao
He basically did!! In a very tongue-planted-(firmly)-in-cheek "nod" in film he directed called: "Fat Kid Rules the World" (based off the book of the same name) which has a similar tone
My son just turned 18 and I gave him a kind of reverse version of this speech. Youthful rebellion is a pipe dream. I was a rebellious SLC rivethead in my youth, and even I saw the irony in the movie when it came out. HIs parents were way cooler than my conservative LDS parents too
I wish someone would upload the car scene he had with his dad. This scene and the car scene really shows even with their disagreements Stevo and his dad have a great relationship. Like his father is happy that Stevo has all these opinions but feels like he's doing nothing with it. Yeah he's not a fan of how he's dress or the fact he rejected Harvard, but he's super supportive of Stevo, and Stevo doesn't even act out that much either. The one moment I loved is as they're talking, his dad brings up how well Stevo did in school, and Stevo says he "cheated" through school, his did sees through that bullshit and goes "ok why cheat if you didn't care about your grades"
I love how he has grown up and changed into an adult and corporate citizen yet has this moment where he shows that he still holds on to the same rage he had about the war in his youth and he is still legitimately convinced that he personally played a role in ending the war. Brilliant.
I love this whole film,and this is one of the top iconic scenes. Very of the times. Haha "remember son, I didn't sell out,I bought in" classic. He is low key jelly...
so did i , to my mom. It was in a restaurant. At the end of my speech, the whole place applauded. One waiter quit his job on the spot to pursue a career in fairground mechanics. It was beautiful.
This film never got the credit it deserved. As a mid 80's punk that watched it all blow up in my face, it's a an anthem to the fact that the absurdity of life isn't a call to to end it but a call to rebel against it. Even if you will lose.
Going through some old highlights and this is the scene that really made me remember how great this movie is and why I need to watch it end to end again.
When you a real punk from the SL,UT underbelly of the beast and this is so unrealistic because you and all your friends were street kids some at 16 who looked out for each other and kicked it at crazy houses all while saving a few bucks to see the next punk show like a reunion of sorts god I loved that shit
I suppose that’s part of the point. Because at the end of the film he ‘buys in’ and turns out he was kinda a poser all along without knowing, the real punks wouldn’t have the option to buy in like he does
Most of us never had the buy in option. Still, I respect his poser ass. At least he tried. Now onward to Harvard. See if you can fix some of this shit that wee peasants have to waddle through.
I love the juxtaposition lol. He's trying to rationalize his sons persona while Mathew Lillard just laughs and completely dismantles everything his dad just said.
This is the best "coming of age" movie ever. So good, and so overlooked, just like the Gen X kids it's about. lol. I love the scene where Steve-o's dad comes to pick him up for lunch, driving a Porsche. lol. RIP Bob tho :( Trendy ass posers.
Shooter McGavin is an awesome dad. I was totally Steve and Bob as a teenager but now as an adult I feel like those views were totally ridiculous and finally grew up and the only way to beat and bring down the system is by being educated and in it, like Steve-o at the end of the movie.
This blows my mind how some family discussions start by the parents saying go to college to be a lawyer, doctor, etc but end with the child choosing him or her own future path. Each generation is different.
I never realized this before but Steve’s jacket is probably undersized cause he made it in high school and outgrew it, it would also explain why he doesn’t have it later (I know they’re a million different ways to lose a jacket but I personally always wondered why he has that only in this scene)
This scene out of context doesn't really represent the movie. Stevo in the movie is 4 years after this, he's toned down. His dad is a lot more relaxed about his son's personality. they have a relaxed relationship with easy banter. Also, Stevo somehow never turned into a burnout he graduated from college with a money earning degree.
One of the reasons I love this movie is because it shows me that when you were younger, you have immature, thoughts and beliefs about certain things, it’s not until you reach a certain age where you’re like. Oh yeah, I totally got to get my shit together and fix everything and make everything better just like he does in the movie, parents want what is best for their kids, that’s why his parents never shamed him or treated him like an outcast for the way he was dressed or acted, and then he had some real bad shit happen to him like people usually do in life, and then he decided to change it and for the better more or less that’s why I love this movie, because I lived a very crazy lifestyle for the past like six years and I’m 24, I just had a couple friends pass away the last couple years and it really should be nothing more that I gotta get my shit together and be responsible not be an imbecile just like he does at the end of the movie! I understand that not everybody has parents, but you can’t use that as an excuse, just be the best person you can be. If you are a bad person that does crappy things to people, the chance of good things happening to you are less than none but if you’re a good person, being good, helping people, not being an asshole, you will get far in this life. They say the good die Young but I say, I think they die because they just didn’t get where they needed to be to change things around where or when they needed too most!
You know...I just had an interesting thought about the sequel. They could've had Stevo return. Imagine if you will if Ross (aka Heroine Bob and Trish's son) towards the end of the movie was arrested for attempted murder or something. They had to do something, so Sean and Trish reached out and got a hold of Stevo who is not a hotshot attorney in New York. Ross doesn't know who his attorney is until he comes in and introduces himself. At the end when he gets the kid cleared of his crimes, maybe have him pass on his razorblade necklace or something. Just a thought
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“I didn’t sell out son. I bought in.”
I tell myself that everyday.
Yeah, we all watched it.
Aren’t they synonymous
@@paulocanecarlthedamnjohnson No
I tried to explain that difference to somebody the other day.
They didn't make it easy, I love having smart company.
It's been a long time since I saw this movie but I remember a scene where Stevie and his Dad are in a restaurant talking about school and Stevie basically tells him how he cheated his way through school BUT the Dad basically said "if you didn't care about school why did you make the effort into cheating" and to this day that scene still sticks w/ me to this day.
Love it too. It shows his dad truly knows his son. He doesn’t get mad that he cheated he reminds him u must care about your future if u wanted to pass.
Matthew Lillard really is a genius in this movie. such an entertaining performance
Adam Freedman leo oor CD ver CMM
Adam Freedman VG
lol he's a mugger
Probably one of his best roles..
Which is why its weird seeing him in goodgirls at the moment lol
I think it's important to note that Steve-o actually did as his father recommended and "toned down" his hairstyle.
He also "bought in" at the end of the movie
He also spends the entire film literally being a lawyer
Honestly his father comes across. As a super reasonable parent.
Yeah, his son is an entitled, spoiled piece of shit. His dad worked his ass off so he can live a life of luxury and have plenty of financial freedom to live out his phony "rebellion".
@@roblangada4516 This has been my major problem with the whole punk ethos that ate up my high school and college years -- a problem I only later recognized the weight of. The society I hated provided the stability for my father to work hard and provide for us. Nearing 40, I've learned personal responsibility accounts for the vast majority of the injustices I used to gripe about. Still they've got some dang good music.
I think this is one of the funniest scenes christopher mcdonald has ever done - better than anything in happy gilmore or his other comedic roles.
Wish my dad coulda got me into Harvard... Sheesh
He does, except for the fact that he eats pieces of shit for breakfast
The little "Fuck you dear." at the end KILLS me!
I love that no matter how much of a sellout/dork/whatever you want to call him he is, Stevo's dad is actually really supportive of whatever it is that Stevo does. Even if he doesnt fully understand how Stevo thinks of things, its clear that he actually loves and cares about his son, and both wants his son to do what's best for himself and also do something that will better his life.
Thats why when Bob and Trish told him the girl they were gonna introduce him to at her party was a rich girl, he very self-awarely says he's a rich boy too. With a little disdain but fully aware that his parents gave him plenty of love support and freedom to prove them right in the end.
@@andrewcook1246 Yeah. Things like that are what makes this such an awesome movie, with this being a really big part of it. It doesnt diminish the plight of the many poor friends who Stevo has, shows that rich people can have very real and meaningful solidarity with their poor friends, while also not demonizing rich people either by showing that Stevos parents actually love and support him, even if they dont quite get what he is doing.
It does a great job of humanizing all of its characters, regardless of what their background is, and especially making a point about how all of us regardless of background can make a difference. This is especially true because Stevo is our protagonist. By having him be a rich kid from a rich family, it makes a great point how everyone can see the same issues, and also how oppression is not jus the plight of the poor, we just have different resources in how we fight against that oppression, with Stevo eventually recognizing what his position in society is and being able to take his experiences hanging out with the marginalized members of society and be able to translate that understanding into him using his law degree to fight the system from the inside.
I think it’s arguable that he actually does understand how Steve o thinks of things.
It’s been 24 years since I first saw this film and I love the writing even more at this age! Brilliant.
"They're not going to get this in New York..."
It's such a good line considering how significant the punk scene was in New York, especially compared to 1980s UTAH lmao
Matthew Lillard could totally play the dad now
I thought he did play the dad in the sequel
He basically did!! In a very tongue-planted-(firmly)-in-cheek "nod" in film he directed called: "Fat Kid Rules the World" (based off the book of the same name) which has a similar tone
I forget how incredible this movie is. Lillard kills it 100% man. Flawless victory. Everybody just rocked it. Movie is a 10
The scene Bob dies gets me every time his acting in that is great
I remember being so distracted by the bald cap that Matthew Lillard was wearing in this scene
Haha, same!
those peace signs he's throwing randomly here and there....I GET THAT!
Mikatze K what is that?
congratulations. Did you "get" anything else from the scene?
He did that to show his parents he understands what Woodstock was in a subtle asshole way. He didn't do it as an awkward conversation quirk.
Lol they’re so supportive
They’re like the coolest parents anyone could ever ask for
"But for the first time in my life, I'm eighteen, and I can say 'Fuuuuucckk youuuuuu!!'"
I lmfao every time.
@Willz __ okay boomer
My son just turned 18 and I gave him a kind of reverse version of this speech. Youthful rebellion is a pipe dream. I was a rebellious SLC rivethead in my youth, and even I saw the irony in the movie when it came out. HIs parents were way cooler than my conservative LDS parents too
$100 says that Stev-o’s father gave the same speech to his father and how being a hippie is awesome.
That's the joke Cpt Obvious...
I wish someone would upload the car scene he had with his dad. This scene and the car scene really shows even with their disagreements Stevo and his dad have a great relationship. Like his father is happy that Stevo has all these opinions but feels like he's doing nothing with it. Yeah he's not a fan of how he's dress or the fact he rejected Harvard, but he's super supportive of Stevo, and Stevo doesn't even act out that much either. The one moment I loved is as they're talking, his dad brings up how well Stevo did in school, and Stevo says he "cheated" through school, his did sees through that bullshit and goes "ok why cheat if you didn't care about your grades"
Take a picture, it’ll last longer!!!!
100% that scene you’re describing was so good. This movie was so underrated.
VOLKS VAGEN!!!
What's important here is that his parents understood, respected and supported his decisions. Something 95% of us never got the chance to experience.
Who knew Shooter Mcgavin would be such a good dad. I remember watching this back around the early 2000s. Always loved this movie.
Those last few lines between the parents were EPIC!!! Dad knew Steve-o was gonna be a lawyer.
"Collectively, we ended that goddamn war in Vietnam!"
I love how he has grown up and changed into an adult and corporate citizen yet has this moment where he shows that he still holds on to the same rage he had about the war in his youth and he is still legitimately convinced that he personally played a role in ending the war. Brilliant.
Yeah but can we talk about how ICONIC his outfit looks \m/
I also love how his Mohawk flays around when he jumps. I fkn love him lol
I love this whole film,and this is one of the top iconic scenes. Very of the times. Haha "remember son, I didn't sell out,I bought in" classic. He is low key jelly...
I recited this whole monologue to my mom while really high once when I was 17. She and my friend who were there were very confused.
so did i , to my mom. It was in a restaurant. At the end of my speech, the whole place applauded. One waiter quit his job on the spot to pursue a career in fairground mechanics. It was beautiful.
Fake.
Still Based.
That's one hell of a mohawk
Taylor Knight.
That's because its fake
It is kinda perfect for the scene,with how it bounces....
That's how I'm trying to be. Mine's only half that length.
Watching it wave back & forth always cracks me up
And hell of speech..
I really appreciate the dad hahahahah he is actually pretty nice
This film never got the credit it deserved. As a mid 80's punk that watched it all blow up in my face, it's a an anthem to the fact that the absurdity of life isn't a call to to end it but a call to rebel against it. Even if you will lose.
Lol I actually like his dad
“He takes after his father. He’s a son of a bitch.”
“Fuck you, dear”
😂
Shooter McGavin!!!!
This was supposed to be shooters tour
still eats pieces of shit for breakfast
DAMN YOU PEOPLE, THIS IS GOLF!!!
"it's difficult dear.."
I always thought his parents were pretty fucking awesome.
Yeah Steve O was kind of a spoiled brat
"this whole statement about the American Indian you are doing, I am baffled"
The chemistry between all of them is so perfect.
They cut off the best part...
IIIII LOVE! LIVIN IN THE CITY!
If i said that to my mom i wouldnt have a home to come back to
It's hilarious that the mother called her son a "son of a bitch." So that makes her...
Fuck you dear.
i did this for my monologue in theater and it was so fun(:
No, you didn't.
killertomatofuck yes I did? Lol
@@TL27TL27 you have two different accounts?
@@danbam3411 Yes, I got logged out of one
Going through some old highlights and this is the scene that really made me remember how great this movie is and why I need to watch it end to end again.
1:36 "We're hip, we're cool"
harvard out, university of utah in and im going to get a 4.0 in damage lol
Fuck yeah, go Utes!!
When you a real punk from the SL,UT underbelly of the beast and this is so unrealistic because you and all your friends were street kids some at 16 who looked out for each other and kicked it at crazy houses all while saving a few bucks to see the next punk show like a reunion of sorts god I loved that shit
I suppose that’s part of the point. Because at the end of the film he ‘buys in’ and turns out he was kinda a poser all along without knowing, the real punks wouldn’t have the option to buy in like he does
Most of us never had the buy in option. Still, I respect his poser ass. At least he tried. Now onward to Harvard. See if you can fix some of this shit that wee peasants have to waddle through.
3:07 “I’m 18 and for the first time in my life I can say fuck you!!!” so relatable
Poor Shooter...no wonder he was always pissed.
1:02 I still do this peace sign move till this day
That bald cap is hanging on for dear life in this scene and I love it
"They're not gonna get this in New York"
As if it didn't start in York and Jersey lmaoo
"rebellion, freedom" (pauses and shrugs) "love"
I couldn't imagine having parents like that...
i want his fuckin jacket...!!
Make one
"I didn't sell out, I bought in" is arguably the most important line in the entire film.
You realize now just how cool his dad was
Didn't sell out, I bought in...dunno what it means, but I like
It doesn't mean anything. It's just an empty defense.
His parents are great
I love the juxtaposition lol. He's trying to rationalize his sons persona while Mathew Lillard just laughs and completely dismantles everything his dad just said.
I can't think of another Actor Best to Play this Part at This Time in the 90s then Matthew Lillard!!!
You do know this movie is based on real people that actually lived in SLC? Head over to Raunch Records, that guy was there at the time
Parent here. This scene hits quite differently now.
"I AM THE FUTURE"
I laugh everytime he is saying that whilw jumping lol. How his.mohwak stay up ?? Lmfao every time
It isn't his real hair
Elmer's glue.
Aquanet and glue.
I'm going to get a 4.0 in damage!
This is the best "coming of age" movie ever. So good, and so overlooked, just like the Gen X kids it's about. lol. I love the scene where Steve-o's dad comes to pick him up for lunch, driving a Porsche. lol. RIP Bob tho :(
Trendy ass posers.
Best mohawk ever
I have a feeling this exact dynamic will repeat itselves with millennials and their gen alpha kids
Damn the energy! Love it
These parents are low key really cool haha.
Shooter McGavin is an awesome dad. I was totally Steve and Bob as a teenager but now as an adult I feel like those views were totally ridiculous and finally grew up and the only way to beat and bring down the system is by being educated and in it, like Steve-o at the end of the movie.
2:14 the funniest part of this whole scene
This blows my mind how some family discussions start by the parents saying go to college to be a lawyer, doctor, etc but end with the child choosing him or her own future path. Each generation is different.
I never realized this before but Steve’s jacket is probably undersized cause he made it in high school and outgrew it, it would also explain why he doesn’t have it later (I know they’re a million different ways to lose a jacket but I personally always wondered why he has that only in this scene)
He also toned down his punk style. Kind of like how his father suggested.
This scene out of context doesn't really represent the movie. Stevo in the movie is 4 years after this, he's toned down. His dad is a lot more relaxed about his son's personality. they have a relaxed relationship with easy banter. Also, Stevo somehow never turned into a burnout he graduated from college with a money earning degree.
Lmao his dad is pretty cool tbh
Shooter McGavin eats pieces of shit for breakfast.
"I didn't sell out, I bought in" one of my favorite movie quotes ever.
i am the future i am the future
Explains crazy kids today talking to a baby boomers. The hair is amazing. The volume and staying power.
This scene is amazing
The writing in this is so good
One of the reasons I love this movie is because it shows me that when you were younger, you have immature, thoughts and beliefs about certain things, it’s not until you reach a certain age where you’re like. Oh yeah, I totally got to get my shit together and fix everything and make everything better just like he does in the movie, parents want what is best for their kids, that’s why his parents never shamed him or treated him like an outcast for the way he was dressed or acted, and then he had some real bad shit happen to him like people usually do in life, and then he decided to change it and for the better more or less that’s why I love this movie, because I lived a very crazy lifestyle for the past like six years and I’m 24, I just had a couple friends pass away the last couple years and it really should be nothing more that I gotta get my shit together and be responsible not be an imbecile just like he does at the end of the movie! I understand that not everybody has parents, but you can’t use that as an excuse, just be the best person you can be.
If you are a bad person that does crappy things to people, the chance of good things happening to you are less than none but if you’re a good person, being good, helping people, not being an asshole, you will get far in this life. They say the good die Young but I say, I think they die because they just didn’t get where they needed to be to change things around where or when they needed too most!
Now we need a sequel, Lillard to play the dad to a social justice warrior kid. SLC SJW!
There was a sequel...
@@septickittens2040 No. There was never a sequel! *Raises newspaper over face and block out reality*
"He takes after his father, he's a son of a bitch." "Fuck you dear."
best scene form that great film :)
You know...I just had an interesting thought about the sequel.
They could've had Stevo return. Imagine if you will if Ross (aka Heroine Bob and Trish's son) towards the end of the movie was arrested for attempted murder or something. They had to do something, so Sean and Trish reached out and got a hold of Stevo who is not a hotshot attorney in New York.
Ross doesn't know who his attorney is until he comes in and introduces himself. At the end when he gets the kid cleared of his crimes, maybe have him pass on his razorblade necklace or something. Just a thought
@Fandanglius That was the whole point of the movie, he's being a poser most of the time, and he realizes that at the end, that's why I loved it :)
I was part of the revival punk scene in the late 90s eaely 20s and this movie nails it.
I wanted to meet him so bad at Monsterpalooza.
@Paonk He was never a poser. He just moved on.
Bought in.
"I didn't sell out son. I bought in."
Yooo his mom is the main hospital lady in Sons of Anarchy 😂
I’m torn between my youthful mindset and adult responsibilities during this scene.
JD Vance right now can relate to dad lol.
I didn't sell out, I bought in. Amazing
The truth will set you free. Love ya. Philadelphia USA
It's Shooter McGavin!
I kinda want to see a prequel with the parents in the 60s going to Woodstock and rallies.
I AM GOING TO GET A 4.0 IN DAMAGE
"But for the first time, I'm eighteen and I can say, 'Fuuuuccckkk Yoooouuuu!!!!" LOL.
No spoilers but I cry my eyes out single time I watch it. 🖕🏼
This my favorite part haha so true. His Mohawk is awesome.
What’s true
Iiiiiiiiiii love living in the city!
The proper response would have been "glad you said it and not me".
Oh god- Matthew Lillard in a Mohawk 💀
"Yeah...its difficult dear." lol
I need to find this movie