Joey Explains Why He Loves "Midwest Emo" Music
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"Is there southern emo?" Sir, that's called bluegrass.
Or what country used to be in the 70s-90s
Reminds me of telling my friend DMX was gangster rap emo lol. I’m slippin’, I’m fallin’, I can’t get up.
does that mean camping in alaska is bluegrass?
@@formal_bintheir genre is midwestern emo doesn’t matter where they’re from
I wonder how people would've reacted if joey simplified it by saying midwest emo and math rock are basically "emo jazz" lmao
Don Caballero would've gotten annoyed if you would've said that they play 'jazz', lol
Good way to describe it to the uninitiated honestly
the moment I saw "midwest emo" i stopped everything and clicked this video.
WHAT A LEGEND JOEY! REPRESENT
Same
Same.
Same lol
common Joey W
Connor and Garnt: "People just create genres willy nilly, like mid-west emo"
Me a metal fan: YOU HAVE NO IDEA DUDE!!!
eh, once you'll nail basic subgenres of metal, you're pretty much good to go
most of the more niche metal subgenres are not really distinct subgenres (if someone is going to tell me a 100% definitive difference between prog and tech death metal, I'll give this person an award), but kinda stackable descriptors
honestly, metal subgenre categorization got ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING on electronic music
Honestly, metalheads think metal is the only genre that overly and unnecessarily categorizes their preferred type of music, but other genres do the exact same thing, you just don’t know about it. For example:
Pop has chamber pop, baroque pop, dance pop, synth pop, art pop, avant-pop, ambient pop, dream pop, etc. Punk has art punk, post-punk, proto-punk, Oi!, ska punk, skate punk, hardcore, post-hardcore, crust punk, anarcho punk, etc. Rap has boom bap, G funk, jazz rap, abstract hip hop, trap rap, emo rap, gangsta rap, disco rap, etc. Electronic has techno, IDM, EDM, house, synth wave, progressive synth, plunderphonics, downtempo, etc.
@dragonballfanscantread2383 Prog Metal, Metalcore, Power Metal, Folk metal, Gothinc Metal, Industrial Metal, Nu/Rap metal, Glam Metal, Groove Metal, Stoner Rock
aw hell nah 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀@dragonballfanscantread2383
Midwest Emo was huge back in my hometown during my high school and college years. I still listen to some songs every now and then even though I never delved too far into the genre. American Football, Modern Baseball, Mom Jeans, Tiger's Jaw, Charmer, and Free Throw (saw them at a live show) were some of the bands I listened to a bit.
Those bands all slap. Now I wonder if Joey has listened to all my favorite bands
Modern Baseball were fantastic. Even have a tattoo dedicated to them. If you were in your midteens in 2014 they were basically Gods. And their music has aged really well too I feel.
I’ve been wanting to see Free Throw for like a year now. Hopefully they come around soon
hospital bracelet is also a great band
@@notvora hospital bracelet slaps! i miss them :/
Midwest Emo was omnipresent growing up here in the Midwest and it really captures the cold skies and ennui of wishing you could hope for something better or for your love life to be perfect.
That "stuck in a dead end town" vibe, if you will 😅
Im so glad midwest emo is getting more recognition and love i found the genre in late 2019 early 2020 and ive loved the genre ever since
It’s so funny seeing it being so popular now. It was popular here in the Midwest in the early 2000s and then became extremely cringe and now it’s popular again outside of the Midwest
Bro I absolutely love Midwest emo, it is such a good genre, American football, Modern Baseball, mom jeans, etc. I just love the technical guitars and the almost whiny vocals, just love like all of it.
American midwest emo and folk punk is soo good, also japanese math rock/post rock scene is full with talented musician
Real talk, Math Rock and Mathcore are the shit.
I had no idea I had like identical musical tastes to Joey. What a King he is.
A great introduction to Midwest emo is a band called Modern Baseball. Primarily their albums Sports and You're Gonna Miss it all.
Sports is super a fantastic album and has this homemade feel about it that I can’t find anywhere else
@@daveSoupy I love how Coals sounds it was recorded in a highschool music room
Depressing music helps me process. Happy music when I am not in a good place, can give me a moment of relief but it won't last unless I confront my current state of mind.
Also. To the people who want to know. Midwest Emo is Emo mixed with Math Rock. Math Rock is Rock which utilizes Math in their composition. The time signatures are very complicated that add up, hence the name, Math Rock.
I like to call Midwest Emo Twinkle Emo because the guitars sound very twinkle and ethereal. Yvette Young is a very good example of this
@@diydylana3151 nobody is doing it, so I have to do it:
"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE
@@gelena31 was waiting for it haha
@@gelena31 oh god not the copypasta
@@gelena31 there it is lmao
@@diydylana3151 no for sure, I just remembered it while reading your comment dw
This is the ultimate crossover.
Mineral, Sunny Day Real Estate, and American Football are classics. Tigers Jaw is the best new one.
Throwing Tiny Moving Parts out there for another fucking great midwest emo band. And, if for some reason, you haven't heard of The National, they're great if you wanna feel depressed and want to sulk in that gloomy atmosphere for a bit.
Minnow slaps.
I saw TMP in November. It was such a fun show
TMP was the first time I heard Midwest Emo, they are the reason I fell in love with the genre. Such a nostalgic vibe. Also Birdhouse is my favorite song of theirs!
Same! I came across the clouds above my head music video in 2014 right before or at the start of my sophomore year after my family moved from Fresno to Tracy CA and my friend bobby who i met at tracy high ended up putting me on to Title Fight and Whirr. It changed my life as my previous fave bands were Smashing pumpkins, three days grace, blink 182, and tool @bananafish7976
Midwest emo/shoegaze recommendations for anybody whose interested (from well known to more obscure picks)
American Football
Sunny Day Real Estate
Title Fight
Modern Baseball
Marietta
Turnover
Tigers Jaw
Joyce Manor
Microwave (not really midwest emo but I had to include them)
The World Is A Beautiful Place & I'm No Longer Afraid To Die
Tiny Moving Parts
The Hotelier
Michael Cera Palin
Oso Oso
Charmer
Prince Daddy And The Hyena
Macseal
Dikembe
Remo Drive (Greatest Hits only)
Carly Cosgrove
Pool Kids
Perspective A Lovely Hand To Hold
Dogleg
Oolong
Guitar Fight From Fooly Cooly
Carly Cosgrove mention WOOOOO
Im a fairly new fan of them and based on the context i got from watching these podcasts, Joey really is the music guy in their group and hearing him talk about midwest emo just made me like him even more
yeah, he himself is a multi-instrumentalist and makes music under the name Ikurru. I haven't listened to it tho, so idk what he plays
Finally midwestern emo gets recognition lol
Bro modern baseball is literally my favorite band I love Midwest emo
I get the listing to depressing music talk. having something to connect to and not only that but something to feel the emotions you need to feel out that really is what's best for me.
Dude garnt and Conner’s reactions had me feeling with joey. I’m not alone when explaining the genre
I was gutted when he said American Football invented emo. Many 4th wave bands are influenced by them, but they were nothing back in 1999. Emo was invented in the 80s...
I was so surprised when I read the title. It's such an underrated genre
Gotta look up Midwest Pen Pals as they are the blueprint for Midwest emo especially their song Movies like Juno
Amazing band and song you should check out this is pointless they have a similar sound
Being from the midwest i may be biased but the midwest emo music be hitting hard in the middle of a drive down a shitty road surrounded by corn
I need a video on all your favorite bands and songs in Midwest emo lol
i believe cap n jazz (mostly same members as american football) was the first "midwest emo" band
Midwest emo and emo folk is the shit. Legit the realest music out there. Raw and unrefined passion for the music.
The first good Joey take I've heard. Bravo.
I was thinking just that lmao
Agreed
A C K S H U A L L Y American Football didn't found Midwest Emo
ayo i did NOT expect madvillainy, my man
Midwest Emo is the only Emo that ages well.
Pink moon is one of the greatest albums ever made
Luke Cyrus Goetze did an amazing lapsteel cover of pink moon if you haven't heard it.
This could have gone so much more smoothly had he just offered to play Never Meant on his phone, lmao.
Haven't had anyone dislike Never Meant when I showed them. Truly a timeless classic.
AMERICAN FOOTBALL IS SO GOOOD
truuue
TMP is also awesome!
although i'm not that into LP2 and 3, LP1 is legendary
@@SirFooplesTheThird yes agreed. also sunny day real estate are of course fantastic too.
It's so great he's talking about this but he was really struggling to explain it well lol
"suburban emo" is I think the best way I've ever heard midwest emo described
I love how Joey is explaining the different layers of Emo 😂
Pretty fire 3x3 from all of them
I LOVE MIDWEST EMO SO MUCH - Not done watching the video tbh but I’m so excited for this one lol
LEGEND
cuz it's amazing tape of music, that's why
Modern Baseball is my favorite band rn
he's one of us!!!
American football and Thursday are my go tos
Cliff notes version: Math Rock is a jazzier, noisier version of Indie Rock mixed with Progressive Rock and a bit of Noise Rock
I ended up binging a lot of Japanese math rock on Spotify after this, Haisuinonosa, Osterreich, Co Shu Nie, Paranoid Void, Tricot, Cinema Staff, Ling Tosite Sigure and Toe are my new faves and I'm hoping to find more. \m/
I haven’t watched trash taste in a while cool to see that Joey also likes midwest emo
I guess if I were to describe Midwest Emo to some one, I'd tell them: "It's just emo but less loud and whiney added with beautiful musical composition with Math Rock."
His history take and description of Midwest Emo is so off 😂
4:30 exactly how i feel when i have to say "emo" out loud
Band of Horses is southern emo for sure
Lets gooo!! Midwest Gang
Starting off amazing with the genius Nick Drake
Nice Joey!
Fuck yea Joey!!! Me too!!!
Let's just forget~
HOLY SHIT ive never could have thought that joey likes midwest emo, what a chad
the way Joey describes midwest emo, it feels like he doesn’t actually know that much about how to describe music. Like, math rock isn’t hard to explain to a layman, just say it’s rock music with weird time signatures and rhythms. And about midwest emo, just say it’s indie rock with twinkly guitars and amateurish whiny sad vocals
I'm so Happy Joey is talking about Midwest Emo AND American Fucking Football!!!
I owe this man a beer
Midwest emo has amazing guitar riffs
Wow!! JOEY IS ONE OF US 🎉❤😂
As someone who has been listening to midwest emo since 2002, I'm glad it's getting popular today.
I love Midwest emo
Nick Drake
people, please listen to the brave little abacus, the greatest midwest emo band
I listen to Dragon Force songs when I'm sad, going from Seasons (Acoustic Version), then Reasons to Live, then any random fantasy themed song of theirs yelling "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!! THIS IS IT!!!! I'M GONNA WIN THIS!!! GONNA F'ING GET THROUGH THIS!!!"
Let's gooooooo
Midwest emo the got unknown genre
Joey is the goat
How dare you tell me that my favorite genre(Finnish Pagan Shaman Folk Metal) is too specific!
I can only think of Korpiklaani.
Midwest emo is something different. First time i listen to it, i feel.....empty....its....its so different from the rest music i ve been listen to this day. Its...make me calm...its make me...feel.....i dont know...fine....i feel somehow relate.....
Midwest emo is different. Totally different
I swear all I hear in midwest-emo is the music that's in Shinkai films
Midwest Emo is Emo but the sadness is derived from a life in a suburban hellscape, and thus way sadder and more painful.
Also _happy sound make pain go way._
Joey definitely was on /mu/ in the early 2010's
my man
"american football founded midwest emo" ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠
Nick Drake is proto to is all props for joeys knowledge
fucking valid taste joey
still waiting for someone to put a Midwest emo intro over the pizza debate
yeah I don't blame anybody for hearing these genres and being like yeah that is made up which garnt literally did on the spot also I love math rock it sounds so good to me I love the wails
any D.C. emocore enjoyers?
4:30
The middle guy is saying "like" the whole time.
I’m a Floridian but my heart belongs in Missouri
Midwest emo is mellow depressed rock
Any tiny moving parts fans in the comments?
Yea boi
Henlo
being from the midwest, midwest emo is easy to relate to and understand but hard to really get why it even exists unless you're literally from the midwest
I’m from the Midwest and emo or “screamo” as it was known in my area was huge pre-2012. I personally find it cringey af. It just brings me flashbacks of scene kids
Midwest emo..is kinda underated.
"Its not a phase mom!"
Nick Drake died of an overdose of anti-depressants. He was 26.
he should listen to oolong.. ogbert the nerd.. arcadia grey.. origami angel.. prince dadd.y.. hwe...r t..tr a..
JOEY LOVE MIDWEST EMO?!
Omg Joey sound like he's trying to explain Midwest Emo to boomers "so what was it, country emo?" I'm dead 🤣
I put this in the main video a while ago, but this is for people who want to get into Nick Drake:
Just a few (possible) corrections/information about NICK DRAKE:
-He was born fairly privileged I believe. He was upper middle class, but that doesn’t really matter in the context of his music.
-He may not have had bouts with depression since childhood, though it’s possible, as Nick was described as very sensitive and introspective. From what information is given, it seems the lack of success of his first 2 albums “Five Leaves Left” and “Bryter Layter” exacerbated a decline in his mental health. He felt that he became a failure to his parents and peers. He had the talent to back it up, as these are phenomenal albums. The only problem was marketing, and Nick Drake had trouble performing live and connecting to an audience. During the time leading up to Pink Moon, that was when his depression started developing. He was prescribed anti-depressants, but due to the stigma on depression and mental health during the 70’s, he would often not take his medication, and would often bounce back and forth between neutrality and depression. It was a vicious drilling cycle. He would take his medication and get energy to write music, and would immediately emotionally crash.
-Pink Moon’s cover was a painting, because any pictures they attempted to take of Nick for the cover/album art, showed him very detached. He was always looking away and was hunched over, and nobody knew what to do with them for the album.
-Pink Moon is the only song on the album that has piano. The rest of the album is just guitar. After Bryter Layter, he had plans to just do an acoustic only album. The previous album had orchestration and heavy instrumental backing (with various contributions by the Velvet Underground’s John Cale). He felt since that didn’t work for sales of his album, he would try to do an acoustic album only.
-According to close friend and Pink Moon’s album producer John Robert Wood, Nick Drake wouldn’t play music unless he was in a good headspace. However, no doubt his music was introspective and dealt with depression. This was possibly during the time when his mental state would ping pong between neutrality and a crash in depression. We don’t know if he was already this drilled deep within depression, but it’s very possible.
-We don’t know if his death was a suicide or accidental. He overdosed on painkillers, and his family say he could have attempted to take a bunch and get back on his feet the next day and continue his music, or he deliberately chose to end it. In some twisted way, his sister, Gabrielle Drake, a famous British actress, stated that she would have felt some comfort if she found out he chose to end his life himself, as everything else in his life was out of his control, so at least he controlled how he would go out.
-Different note, but his song “Fruit Tree” off his debut album “Five Leaves Left” discusses how an artist isn’t remembered or appreciated until they’re dead. It’s a haunting context for his future.
RIP Nick Drake. I didn’t know Joey listened to him, and I’m glad his name is being spread more.
Yesss americ
an football! 🥰
If you know. The title of midwest emo song is ssooooooo weird. Here i found the titlw was...a title of game.
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL(I constantly listen to Midwest emo and talk shit about it to make people think I don't actually listen to Midwest emo)
Dude in Akira shirt is a vlogger/podcaster? He's barely literate. He talked for most of the 10 mins in this video but he used only 20 words, half of them "like", and expressed 1 complete thought.
based midwest emo fan
Literally could’ve said midwest emo is just emo jazz