I watercooled Phils personal gaming rig... but something is wrong with it.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- Phil finally agreed to let me watercool his personal gaming rig! But I may have broken it...
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Phil making a joke on his own name and cracking up good about it just made my day
that was PHILLogical joke and i loved it ... also will laugh if the psu is the issue
He must be a gem to work with. Seriously. His enthusiasm and his laugh is contagious. Love to see it.
Phil ❤
Phil's laugh is contagious. You can tell when he really laughs, his doesn't hold back.
Phil Ports: missed opportunity
The best thing about your channel is that you run into problems, just llike the rest of us. It takes you a minute to finish builds, but if any of us viewers were doing the same thing, it would take us even longer. Thank you for the real, and not just the beauty shots. You guys are appreciated for all your hard work.
get your self an IFIXIT!!!
Phil hosted videos on JayzTwoCents channel are literally PHILler content.
I thought they were TH-cam Shorts...
We have been Philled in
Thank you for sharing, but I think we all were able to Phil in the blanks.
@@WarkWarbly I'm sure he's Philled with joy to get those parts.
Boo 🍅
The only thing I could think is that you damaged something when you cut the pcb. Possibly a grounding layer that got crossed into a power/data line or something. I hope you figure it out soon cuz im very interested in the reason and solution
That's what I'm thinking. He says there's no traces there, but there could have been something.
Last time he said it doesn't look like there are any traces here, he drilled thru a motherboard and killed it. So i wouldn't be surprised he did it again lol
@@byCDMC There is no reason to have a trace run out there. A MB and a riser are built a little different.
@@byCDMCoof I remember that 😅
Another possibility had to deal with a few months ago was trying to convince someone their new smart surge protector was defective. Back and forth for 3 days before he gave in and pressed the test button on it and wouldn't ya know it it came back with bad test result. Sockets go bad sometimes, when they do just pray they don't take anything with it. The only other thing if guessing on stuff that's new is maybe the bottom fans running through the case? Maybe cables got caught/cut on the case material and now shorting.
These are actually my favorite kinds of videos from you guys. I know it's a pain in the ass for you, but I love the problem solving, and how excited you guys get when you figure it out.
I love how painfully similar cars and computers are. Everything goes fine till the end of the project, then its just nothing but sadness for a few days 😂
Story of my life. 😂
Acceptance is what you can learr
i didnt even realize people commonly have issues with self built pcs... ive only ever had one issue, and that was my fault and they sent a replacement (shitty psu burnt a chip from being on a carpet)
although now that i think about it, i dont do anything with watercooling, sff, and always have at least 1 other person to help me hold things and do things
@@statendrei5exactly why I said shitty PSU... It was a rose will 750w. They provided a free replacement that I used for about a year. I upgraded to a 2023 Corsair rm850e last night and it is amazing
TRUTH!!
I kind of like seeing you struggle with stuff like this, Jay. Mostly because it makes me feel better about my own mistakes, like thinking I was being smart by getting an R5 5600G in my build to use until I get a decent video card and only finding out yesterday that apparently I've gimped my machine down to PCI3 because of that choice.
"I'm just going to have to trim the PCB a little bit here." Balls of steel on this guy.
I had the same issue with a 5600G. Doh!!
"I'm just going to have to trim the PCB a little bit here." Possibly also the cause of the issue right there.
@@TheAnoniemo I can't see why there would be any traces other than maybe the ground plane out there on a riser but I guess there could be. For his sake I hope that isn't the problem.
PCIE gen 3 while a bit of a bottle neck isn't going to be that big of an issue for gaming. Yes gaming performance will be a bit worse its far less of a hit then you think and honestly if its a huge issue the 5600g will probably be more of a hinderance then the PCIe gen 3 only.
What card did you get to go with it?
Man, I don't think I would ever put myself through the pain of building something on a small form factor. Mid tower cases is small enough for me!
Also, I just love the chemistry between you guys. Phil's laugh continues to be contagious... I sometimes wonder how you get anything done when he just loses it.
Thanks for the content Jay!! I always enjoy your work. 3 days ago I had an online exam for my coding class. I took a nap around 04:30 after shutting my rig off. Back in the middle of August I had an issue with random shutdowns. 3 months prior to that the same thing was happening but after ruling out all components it started running normally. So 3 days ago, while freaking out because I was losing study time, I decided to swap the motherboard. I had an extra Z690 Maximus Extreme for a buddies build and replaced my Z790 Extreme. I got done and had the same issue again. For the life of me I couldn’t figure it out. So I unhooked everything including 19:50 the wires going to the power button, HD led, etc. I booted with the onboard start button and voila it booted and no shutdown. Turns out that the HD led wire or power led wire had a short. These were parts I had cannibalized off the first PC I built back in ‘05. So yeah intermittent issues suck. Keep it up!!
The Phil emergence and its subtleties are wholesome, and bring out more goodness to the channel.Cheers
Every watercooled build should be Phil's. Every time you spoke about Philling the loop I chuckled.
I'd say try a different riser cable as well since the pcb was cut. Pretty easy to swap and test a different one.
Iv been absolutely loving the Zotac AMP Extreme AIRO 4080
Thanks for staying real! And keeping your videos low-key, and being the real dude you are through all the years. It's a real blessing to see this content, no shiny videos, just the pure thing I love to watch. Not like some "other" tech channels have gotten it to their heads. Greetings from a long term fan from The Netherlands!
Yeah, most of my computer builds wind up with a lot of troubleshooting before it's good to go. Glad you're showing us the process so we can learn along with you! Hope it turns out to be something minor.
These kinds of videos are my favorite Jay. Seeing someone who does WAY more builds than the average PC owner have to troubleshoot is really informative. Love this vid series so much!
hey Jay! it's the fan clearance on the daisy chain fans.... eh.... you'll figure it out...
I wait every year for an entire month of this type of content. Thank you for the videos y’all!
Thank you, Jay. I recently got the Alphacool Eiswolf for my 3090 FE with the Eisblock active backplate... and had to send that back because I got the reference version, not the Founder's Edition. My brother called me an idiot, but now that I know it happens to world class watercooling peeps, I can finally sleep again at night. You guys are heroes.
I love Phil so much, his laughs are just pure joy 😂
Good luck Jay and can't wait to see the build finished.
I think it's commendable Jay's commitment to keeping the same case but at some point in time, like 30 minutes into this, I would just conclude that it's more trouble than it's worth.
I like content like this that lets us observe your troubleshooting process. I learn so much from them! Can’t wait to see the conclusion!
I was concerned that my experience based water cooling system wasn't performing as well as Jay's until I noticed his ambient temperature!
HVAC to the Rescue!
The house is fully HVAC but the cost of bringing it down to 19 C is more than the box is worth!!@@Xenoray1
I really appreciate how cool looking some of the small builds are, but this is why I still do mid size cases.
love Jayz build videos, it like watching a magician at work, bonus with this one we also get a troubleshooting video aswell
Magici--he breaks everything lol
@@andso7068 yeah, instead of going with a different case where everything fits together, we'll just dremel the parts that don't fit.
I'm sure he could have vlogged a trip to Microcenter (one of the channels sponsors) and gotten the correct GPU for the waterblock he was looking at using, and the company he's employed with, would have probably had the GPU expense written off.
I hardly doubt Jay pays for anything out of pocket when it comes to tech purchases.
You're right about consistency! I bought an Asus mobo last week for a build (it was cheap, and white) and for the life of me I couldn't start the system from power button even after shorting it, I had to turn PSU off for a bit till the capacitors cleared. Was gonna reach out till I read on a forum that it was the ErP laws in the EU, still trying to test it but hopefully its fine
All of these issues and problems are my favorite part of water cooling. There is always a challenge. My favorite ITX build in the Razer Tomahawk used an external reservoir on the back and massive 19/13 soft tubes cooling a 3090 and a 5800x3d. Slim bottom 240mm and normal 240mm top. I love these kinds of challenges.
Intermittent issues are also the hardest to diagnose. Had a customer many years ago get mad because his RAM (128GB) took days to test. Not to mention his cooler is bad and his PSU power plugs werent even plugged in all the way. Imagine how fun this is to do for a living. :')
Love seeing these kind of vids, seeing how someone with experience dealing with these kind of problems is a great learning experience. Now I know that converting an ITX build may lead to problems akin to adding an image to a Word document. Excited to see the next vid!
my filter!!! my PHILter!!!!!! i love Phil's laugh it cracks me up EVERY FREAKING TIME!!!!
This is ONE reason I prefer BIG cases. Like the Alienware Area 51 R2 Triad Case I have. ALL parts can be full sized and not have any issues mounting them! But that's just me.....
Phil's cheer to the upgrade caught me beyond off-guard. Just spit my coffee everywhere
God I love it when Phil's laugh gets going in the background, makes me chuckle
i did learn something from this video "don't fix what ain't broke"
This is your typicial itx build experience with 2022+ high-end specs. You should cut out the holes of the bottom intake with externally mounted fans.
A potential issue of not having a res is thermal expansion. If there is no air bubble/buffer to compress under raising temps, the pressure is gonna get high, with the potential of blowing out a tube. I purposely underfilled my itx build slightly.
Jayz....I mean this in the nicest way possible. Ya need to take better care of yourself. We'll be fine, we don't need constant content. We'll be ok, delegate what you can to others and make time for you. It's important. Much love and respect buddy.
So you also noticed it?
@@brianminnies1802 what did you notice?
I've been noticing but also don't follow his socials. Glad someone mentioned it. We love you Jay take care
So excited to see this build. I’m currently 8 months into a watercooling build in the same case. My GPU/CPU is last gen, but going to see if a single 280nm radiator will cut it. Can’t wait to see the outcome
Jayz I have the pump block combo, I have encountered similar problems. You can fix it by filling directly to the combo res. The pump then will push the water.
I had a very similar build in a Nouvolo steck. I used a crossflow rad on top so that it could act as a res and allow me to fill from above.
From cape town,south africa love your channel and the way you present it.
Love the video!! I'm really glued to the monitor with this kind of content!
Kudos in showing the snags of an upgrade. Not everything is perfect! Need more of these experiment style videos please. SoCal is getting hot again, we’ll need some cooling tips!! 😆
I was thinking Optimum Tech vibes when seeing how it was put together.
I've been using the same EKWB cooler/pump for a few weeks and used a craft syringe to fill it. And could also get a bit pressure in the System with it to get the Air Out of the Pump that was blocking it from working. It wasn't that easy and water got on the mainboard once, but after a bit of dry time everything works well now.
This video made me feel a lot better. I was supper frustrated when I tried to fit 4090 and 13700k and two radiators inside ghost s1. Ended up getting another large tophat and replaced a 240mm rad with a 120mm (with no fan) and a reservoir.
These are the types of issues that make diy so difficult. I don't have extra parts laying around so each problem is a pain. Looking forward to finding out what the "new" problem solution is.
Same case I have, runs great air cooled!
I built into the NR200P (non-MAX one), in my case I used the EKWB FLT80 reservoir and the EKWB velocity² Intel 1700 waterblock. I 3D printed the top of the case to fit the second 240mm radiator and used quick connectors from alphacool to connect each component, as well as a short Linkup PCIe 4.0 riser to move the EKWB Vector RTX 3080FE Special Edition to the 2nd slot and free up space for the tubes and quick connectors between the CPU and GPU waterblock. It's one of my hardest builds that I did. It requires a couple of micro fittings from EK to allow you to get behind the GPU waterblock from the reservoir.
normally for sponsored content i always fast forward but i never fast forward on the ifixit one. SO GOOOOOOD!
Guarantee there's a short in the PCIe Riser PCB. Specially if debug light is flashing red for GPU.
exactly
Same thing happened to me this week but with my ride. I replaced a power steering pump and return line. Primed/bled the new one, sounded fine, and then put the gx down to test drive and the power steering instantly started acting up again. Had to leave it for my job. Going to try another prime/bleed tomorrow for longer and hope it solves it.
It is amazing that the case had so little room to begin with. After the waterworks, it looked even more ridiculous. Oh and the thing that is wrong is that you didn't finish it, what is he going to do to satisfy his gaming in the next 6mths while you finish it?
Why do I watch Jay or LTT?
Because you guys get to do all the shit that I'm too poor to do, I love watercooling and playing around with hardware as much as possible and my only option is to do it vicariously through you guys.
It doesn't matter what it is, as long as we're learning new shit, we're happy!
I actually like these types of vids. It really life that every builder deals with.
ASUS which got fired still appear everywhere 😂
Thank you for doing this! Someday, I hope to get to build my own kit.
I dont understand the logic why some people cram high end hardware into these kinds of small pc cases, just buy a slightly bigger case and fit them in
Exactly! Save yourself all the headache!
Building a custom loop inside a sff chassis... i can actually feel the pain. 🙈
As an old riding/wrenching buddy of mine used to say, "no modification goes unpunished." 🙃
Of course, we still love doing it!
In my experience, the punishment can and will include the stolenization of your ride.
@jayzTwoCents - very good build sir. Much appreciate vids like like this!!!! Keep them coming!!!
It's reasons like this that I will never do another SFF build.
It’s funny your doing this because I’m literally in the process of building a triple rad setup in the non max version of this case. I’m waiting on my my top & bottom rads. I’m using the Alphacool 240 V2 rads as well. A crossflow up top, a regular U flow at the bottom & a 92mm at the rear. I’m also using the EK FLT 80 Pump/Res. I 3D printed a top hat mod from printables to make adding the top rad easier. I also 3D printed some taller feet so I could mount 2 P28 fans under the case.
I absolutely love water-cooled ITX cases because of the OCD planning that has to go into it. That challenge is something that drives me
Same.
I'm likely going to try it for myself soon.
Great video! I’m sorry the build didn’t post. I was really excited for this build. The only things I could think that would cause this issue are either a grounding issue in the PCB that was cut, or maybe the fan connection…? Did you connect fans to the CPU motherboard port? I am really looking forward to the conclusion to this video! Great work, guys!
Can't wait for the next video having the same problem on my build so far I figured out one of the ram slots is bad
I have added wheeled feet to the case to gain height and mount fans externally in either push or pull. Wire shield installed to protect finger
Definitely a challenge build.....fun to watch though. Thanks Jason!
I been watching you for some time now but Jay broo you are geting biger and biger you need to take better care od your self .
All the best to you and your crew.
I just completed a build almost exactly like this in my Loque Ghost. Kind of surreal seeing you make the same realizations and adaptations I did when I did mine. Only major difference is I used a set of cross flow rads since the GPU is on the other side of the case. Ended up using maybe a foot of tubing in the final build, super duper clean. Took a bit of modification to get everything in the case but it turned out great :)
EDIT: also note that that pump block combo also has a built-in reservoir. Might not help since you can’t fit a drain valve on it though.
Two Phil ports!
Double the Phil, double the fun!
This video needs more Phil puns
Hey editor; Can you make a short that is JUST a reel of Phils laughter?
We all need a little happiness in our lives, and that would certainly fit the bill.
i love how phil just cracked a joke himself that was entertaining to hear i do that stuff all the time
Hi Jay and crew! Love you guys for helping each other out! ❤👍
5:25 Being able to see the copper & IHS is what you want! The best thermal transfer is metal to metal, the paste is only to... _Phil_ the gaps due to surface irregularities, because air is a _terrible_ thermal conductor.
I guess Phil is getting a new case too :)
If not fixed, I had a similar issue. It was the mounting pressure from the Thermal grizzly mounting block. I had to adjust to 5Nm of pressure and my system worked fine. It took me several hours to figure it out!
Jay needs another employee called Dwayne.
So he'll have "Fill" and "Drain" :D
The funny thing is that I was going to try to make a custom loop in the NR200P Max and make a video too, so I can be one of the first people to ever do it. Not a lot of people would put a custom loop in that because it already comes with a AIO so it doesn't make much sense.
I changed my mind after a while, but I'm still going to make a custom water loop for my PC soon.
Everytime jay says (Fill) or (feel) my brain replaces it with (Phil)
You should just give him a new case too 😊
I had the same cascading problems when I build my ITX case, in the end it was okay, also with a loop in it, but it is challenging for sure.
I love watching Jay fix PC's!!!
I love these SFF-watercoolingsystems! Fingers are crossed for the solution! 🥳
Perfect example of why you don't try and cram a bunch of stuff that runs hot into such a small case.
All that pain and costs... I would just replaced the case 😆
I loved watercooling my NR200. Was a fun build a few years ago.
Long shot, is the contact frame correctly mounted?
The other issue might be the RTX 4080 power connection, tripping the OCP.
might want to re-check that riser cable. Vibration from the rotary tool can sometimes crack joints. Quick check but easy to miss.
Jay needs a t-shirt with him cutting a circuit board and a nuke exploding in the background. That pretty much sums up Jay and modifying PCBs.
Props to nic, the printed stand fit so well to the original one, looks really good.
I am small case adverse. I hate having to cram things into tiny cases.
When having no res/smalle res/weak pump, you should put a QDC in your loop.
This way you can break the loop and fill/bleed/rinse it with an external D5/res - then close the loop and close the case😉
Hmmm... my loops I only compromise on space the case takes up. Full towers for me with nice large D5 pump/res combos and 3 radiators, none of this _"Let's see if we can squeeze a full custom loop in 22 litres."_ rubbish. Good luck with the OCP issue Jay (mainly for Phil's sanity).
A little workaround is to remove the heatsinks of the ram sticks, its a closed case, but ram dont heat enought to decrease performance or other trouble - and the aesthetics for the ram don't matter. Perhaps without heatsinks ram increase around 3 or 4ºC and that gives you the clearance for install the fittings at the side.
Love Jayz2cents in October !!!
These kinds of videos is why I love this channel 😎💙😎💙
Not sure if anybody else mentioned this... so many comments. I had my msi board suddenly start throwing over current errors and shutting off. It turned out to be the usb C jack on the mobo had started shorting from my G2 visor being plugged in and stressing the connector. I switched it from the onboard usbc to using the adapter to an A jack and things started working properly.
This was a day in my life! It ALWAYS breaks out. 🤣🤣🤣
Digging the Techtoberfest so far! Keep it up =)
My initial thought on the OCP thing is the power cable spacer. It shouldn't have that big of an impact, but somewhere to look that has fairly easy access it seems.
This is exactly why I never use these tiny cases. What's the point when it's a desktop.... So many issues simply because of how small the case is.