@@budgroweryt9947 is that below core i9? Cpu these days dont have to work hard, eating energy to play normal games. I use athlon2 x2 250 its 100% browsing internet windows 10. Heavy os, it was fine in windows 7 since 2011.
People just get insufficient coolers. I’ve had an Nzxt h510 with an I7 10700, a Ryzen 5 5600x in an h510 flow, and then later a 7 5800x in an h510 flow, temps were in the 50s and 60s. H510 non flow was an air cooler, 510 flow had an aio.
With air cooling you need a case with proper ventilation. When water cooling you can get away with one of these crap cases because as long as you're pulling air across the radiator from outside the case somewhere then the CPU will be cool. This is because the coolant travels down to and then away from the cpu and is cooled elsewhere and not right on top of it in the middle of the case where the GPU and other items generate heat as well with no ventilation. The CPU staying at 80s instead of dropping to mid 70s is telling, and I'd wonder what the GPU temps are at extended sessions.
@@TheXeroLink my point was air cooling can be sufficient in an Nzxt case. Especially if you are able to undervolt. I’m not saying they’re the best flowing cases by any means what so ever. But they’re not as bad as everyone makes them seem to be.
@@justin_lee3005 Dawg, that is still a lot. I have an old but great case, the Corsair 760T with 3 fans and watercooling. My CPU has around 40 degrees Celsius at gaming and 30 when idle. GPU is sitting at 50-60 while gaming, 30-40 idle.
@@TechTalkTobi "Not had issues" doesn't mean much. It's meant to be minimal. Thermal paste isn't as conductive as metal. You want it to fill in micro air gaps but not so much that islt stops metal-to-metal contact.
Couldve saved all that time by just slightly undervolting the cpu, the 12th gen chips are known to run notoriously hot. The funny part of this video is him showing a spot on the cpu without thermal paste but we all know it was just stuck to the copper cold plate on the cooler….
@MisterKrakens It's 65 in a CPU STRESS TEST. Meaning the cpu is running at 100% for a long amount of time. 85 in a cpu stress tests is actually really good. The average cpu will never see a 100% load like that ever. At most it may be 60-70. If that when gaming so in the reality the normal terms during gaming or whatever will be around the 60s range. Which again with an air cooler is really good.
@MisterKrakens no really good for any cpu under consistent 100% load. I get the hate for Intel is high. And it's well warranted. But don't let your hate block you from using logic. Any cpu maintaining 82C with an air cooler under 100% load on all cores and threats is REALLY good.
Thermal paste application is terrifying for me, because you won't know if you've done anything wrong until you fire up the system and you can't really check the application without starting all over again.
The best strat is to put a peasize drop ( u can go for a little more if ur concerned ) or u can go with an x pattern but put a little more paste in the middle
For me personally, and complete ease of mind, i do a thin spread. It’s a guaranteed way to have your IHS completely covered without having that question in the back of your head of complete coverage. The key of course is to THIN spread. You truly don’t need a lot of paste. Since thin spreading on my builds, I haven’t personally ran into any temperature or coverage issues at all. Whenever repasting was needed, the paste prior is always making full coverage. Just what I’ve found helps to keep my mind at ease whenever repasting or doing a rebuild in general, but to each their own! Plenty of methods work great.
@jeremyg2236 I had that same model case. There's a sliver of mesh on the side and bottom near the front but the front itself is solid. There's not much airflow
When I bought my i5-12600K, I had already heard about Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th gen chips running ridiculously hot. So I bought a $40 240mm AIO from Thermal Take. That was the best decision I ever made. My in game Temps never exceed 75C @ 5.3 GHz OC of the P-cores. (My E-cores are at 4.2 GHz).
Probably, but that PC still worked. I personally wouldn't do any testing beyond "Does it boot properly", wich wouldn't show any overheating issues@@user-ke1gn3ql1g
If you do something as a hobby, and get paid to do the same thing, you’ll knowingly cut more corners on your personal use. You think every chef is cooking to the same level and quality at home as they are at work? Obviously not
For everyone that is gonna get an LGA1700 CPU or AM5 CPU, there are CPU Contact Frames that let's you replace the little thing that makes the plastic cover fly and scares you. It helps drop a few degrees and only costs 15 dollars maximum. Even if you're gonna get a 12100F, you should consider getting one.
It does more than that, the CPU pins can get bent as well over time using the stock frame, especially with an air cooler,so it prevents that and prevents that uneven thermal paste distribution
Y’all be living a pipe dream if you think a cpu has to be below 60c while gaming and that 80c on a stress test is bad. Wait until y’all learn more about cpus and how much they are designed to handle. The only people that should care about very low temps is the advanced overclockers that do it for sport if anything else
It's all relative. My Ryzen 7700X runs at 95C under load, by design. I actually overclocked, undervolted, set the thermal limit to 85C, and gained 2000 points on cinebench.
You have to remember that it's not just a 14° improvement, since it throttled and doesn't anymore. So it's not only a temperature improvement, but also a performance improvement.
Amazes me the amount of 12th gen users that I'd consider tech ppl or somewhat enthusiasts that didn't replace the factory cpu frame in their mobos, known for causing uneven cooler contact patches and overheating
Wow bro, you're such an incredibly skilled technician, please enlighten me with your wisdom.. So you applied thermal paste... And then put 2 more fans? That's just incredible, I'm speechless. True Mr robot stuff
Here's some advice for anyone who's new to thermalpasting cpus, to figure out how much pressure you need squeeze out a few lines onto paper then once you feel like youve got it right, squeeze a downward line on the cpu and tighten it down, don't overtighten but tighten enough. If your cpu cooler has 4 screws, tighten them slightly each corner at a time, following the lines of the letter X. do that until its fully tight and it's perfect everytime
My brother has this exact case. Two 140mm intake fans make a world of difference in temps, airflow and dust management. Slightly positive air pressure is always best
Doesn't matter, any extra will leak out on the sides when you tighten the heatsink. Unless it's conductive, the only risk is wasted money on the excess thermal paste.
when you testing in cinebench it will be higher, because it's pushing to the maximum. It will be 10-15 c more when using cinebench than it will be in games so
For the people saying its too much, Cinebench puts a lot more stress on the CPU than just gaming. Also, if you notice, the CPU was pulling almost 200 watts. Maybe some of you underclocked yours. Same thing was happening to me with my 12600k. It pulls less power, and I have a smaller cooler, but mine was doing over 95°C when doing benchmarks and thermal throttling. By default, it had an offset of +0.03V. I set it to -0.1, and its scoring the same, if not slightly better, but the highest temperature is 84°C, and it is still hitting its max frequency of 4.9GHz, 4.92 to be exact. I have not tried overclocking the frequency because I have a cheap motherboard that does not allow it.
Graphite thermal pads work so much better than thermal paste. Plus, you never have to change them and they’re also reusable. I got significantly cooler temperatures after switching.
Why would that be the case exactly? You think everyone working at a tech company is tech educated lol. Every company needs regular employees on top of their specialized employees. Video editor, accountant, marketing, sales, etc. When you get your first professional job you'll understand.
I’d recommend that he replaces the stock ILM with a Thermalright or thermal grizzly LGA1700 contact frame, if you look at one of gamers nexus’ videos on it you can see that the stock ILM puts uneven pressure causing the IHS to bend and not make good contact with the cooler. Regardless of thermal paste application there will be spots on the cpu that have little to no contact. The contact frame puts even pressure on the cpu so the IHS doesn’t bend allowing for full contact and thus full thermal conductivity
This can happen on GPUs as well. I was having a problem with games crashing into black screens all the time but my GPU always read as 60-64 degrees under normal load. When I walked into something like a smoke, it'd crash. Buddy of mine said I should check the GPU paste after trying everything else, and sure enough there was a hotspot. Fixed the issue right away.
1. Use contact frame 2. Use as small amount of paste as possible, direct contact is key. paste is just to fill the uneven gap. this alone improve my cpu thermal by 10° without changing the cooler.
Umm, I'm not an absolute PC building genius, but after building them for over 20 years, I've learned that you can have both too little or too much thermal paste. I'm also pretty sure that the "line" method is supposed to be around the size of an average grain of rice. If you apply too much paste(as shown in this video) you actually stop the paste from doing it's job because the heat can't transfer properly. Also you need to be even more careful to apply it evenly, as you run the risk of creating even more small air bubbles/pockets as a result, which leads to the air collecting, just as shown the first time when he removed the heat sink. I always now opt for the pea method, as it's virtually impossible to apply it unevenly, you only need to make sure you mount the heat sink evenly with as little movement as possible. Easy.
@@CG_Media95 82C isn't mad because you are stressing the CPU at the highest load it can do. In gaming it won't be hitting higher than 65 degrees. His aircooler is missing a front fan plus his case is really crappy with terrible airflow
@@Ladioz but he does have a significantly better cpu then mine which means it has way more power than mine so that makes sense nvr had a good cpu so thanks for reminding
80s still seems incredibly high!! Maybe it's just the chip, but I have a near identical case, with a 240mm AIO and a Ryzen 7 3700. My temps PEAK at like 60 degrees with intensive load and idle in the mid 30's
I suggest sanding down the cpu lid. Many intel processors have incredibly bumpy lids and people don’t even talk about that. I improved my thermals by 12c just by leveling the lid. I took extremely small amounts from the top, didn’t even thin the lid which I could have easily done.
*82°C 😲 I told my cousin when his 14700K reached 95°C that his CPU would max at 100°C, but this was not good. I picked out a 360mm AiO that had top CFM, static pressure, and high revolution fans. During benchmarks, his 14700K won't go any higher than 70°C. His scores are so much better.*
Even 82C is WAY too hot. I have a 12900k and the hottest I've seen it get in a really CPU intensive game is arounc 65. I will say I'm using a GIANT (like 3 foot tall) Thermaltake case, with a ton of airflow, and an Arctic Freezer II 280mm though. Front fans are intake, radiator on the top of the case (blowing up and out obviously), and back fan is also output. The case has great filtering too so I have almost no dust buildup after 2 years (just have to clean the filters every once in awhile).
Try using thermalright CPU bracket. The area with no thermal paste might be result of bending by the CPU Cooler. The CPU bracket will ensure there is not bend and will hold the CPU cooler more stable
I have an old HP Pavillon with an old GeForce card that has around 128mb of ram, and when running furmark 2 on it, the thing got to 120 somthing Celsius, and that’s with the fan on and at max. It has a blower style on it by the way..
I used to build and fix PCs and yep. Number one non virus problem was improper thermal and poor circulation. Get ye a homemade ESD strap and move things around.
Put an second fan on the front of that air cooler and you'll lose another 10 degrees. If you can't fit a 120mm because of the ram, put an 80mm fan there, it will still work.
this playlist reminds me only of the smile from the andrewgaming67, im so sad for this kiddo, they destroyed his whole world, laughed at him, killed all his pets and roasted him, then smile jumped into the well, which is a metaphor for death in this series and the words "WHAT ARE FRIENDS FOR" are truly making me sad, no wonder after this he became a villain of this series as a completely blacked out human with only a big smile and eyes on his head edit: i wrote this under the wrong video LMAOOOO
Same thing happened to my friend’s pc I built. The heat pipes weren’t in full contact with the cpu. Amazingly, the temperatures stayed below 80 degrees, but fluctuated quickly.
I had the same case model and the airflow was terrible. I had to run the pc with the glass off. Nzxt's newer cases are a drastic improvement with an additional bottom fan and vetalated front.
The gap isnt due to the amount of paste originally on the cpu. The problem is that ILM. Replace that with a Thermal Grizzly or Thermaltake cpu contact frame and that gap goes away. Temps drop remarkably. I run Lian Li 360 GA II Trinity SL Infinity in pushpull on an intel I9-13900K with a small thread of MX4 paste. CPU power limited to 225w on PL1 and XMP1 with 7200mhz ram otherwise stock bios settings my cinebench r23 runs 75°c MAX score 36784. Thats a little low but with the power limit and a contact frame Ive tamed a 348w monster
That's incompetence and throwing your employee under the bus. Also complete lack of knowledge regarding the case because this garbage case ONLY works when you have a negative pressure setup, which you destroyed by placing those fans on the front panel.
This problem can be avoided by completely covering the cpu with thermal paste. I never understood why people use pea size dots or lines that possibly might not spread out completely which is what caused this problem in the first place.
I think what you mean by completely covering is using a pattern that would cover most surface area. If you were actually to just put it all along the surface that would cause some issues
@@crem444 I worked at computer shops for 20 years and I've always completely covered the cpu die before putting on the cooler. That way there's no doubt it's applied well. Any excess gets squeezed out. It has never failed me, unlike people who use pea size amounts or draw an X or whatever.
The first thing I go for is repasting as well. Then again, I’ve never had this problem. I’ve had others have problems with simple fixes though. I also use MX-4 as well. In fact my old tube was unusable for my upcoming build, so I bought a new tube and haven’t even opened it yet.
82 Celsius is still way too hot. As most people watching this video know, way too much thermal paste was used during the "fix", and now this computer may face other issues in addition to excessive thermal paste leading to high temps.
Lol imho it still runs very hot , replace the cooler with an aio watercooler and it feels much better. I run a 4790k that did the same high temps on full load on an air cooler, but with the aio watercooler (liquid freezer 240) it only maxes out at 67 degrees.
Now do it again and do it right this time. Fit a Thermal Grizzly or Thermalright LGA1700 contact frame to knock another 5c or more off - and prevent it getting worse over time as the IHS bends in the middle. They also make one for AM5, so don’t get too excited AMD gang.
the case bad, nice cooler, spread thermal paste for even distribution and even better temps, Hopefully airflow is positive lol A more firm cpu bracket can also make the temps cooler
I’ve got a 13500 with a similar noctua cooler. I applied the paste using the 5 dot method and I idle at 28 degrees and even at 100% cpu I don’t see much over 60 degrees. Very impressed with Noctua. Also I’ve got a Fractal North case not NZXT.
Got really old Components so not much heat either way, i7 3770k and a gtx 1060. I got a cabinet from work, so switched over from a Fractal Define cabinet to a Fractal Focus 2. I went from cpu being 60c and less with Fractals Define. To less than 50c under gaming now with the Fractals Focus 2. Fractals always got good airflow. One negative though, the pc isn't getting warm enough anymore to heat up my room 😂
Honest to God the real culprit here is the case. NZXT H510 is known to be a HORRIBLE case for cooling. They even made a flow edition because of that. I have one
I remember when I had to transfer my pc from malaysia to aus. it was such a pain because they said they would put a fragile sticker on it and all but they put it on the hard luggage, gpu socket broke, and the cpu cooler fell off
82°C in cinebench without any OC is crazy hot for a 12th gen i7. I'm on a 5900X with a slight OC and a dark rock pro 4 and don't go above 74°C in cinebench.
You may try Opera, TH-cam, and choose a 8k Hd video to watch and stream for a while. A 720p hd video (Cod Black ops full gameplay) halted my Win 7, and I had to force the power up. It happened 10x, and the cpu overheating stopped. The 2.1 ghz laptop accepted the video, and I could watch it using 80% cpu load instead of 100% leading to frameskip. Another way to stop overheating, is using the pc with ups, usb is not needed. My Pentium 3 1 ghz didn’t need a cooler afterward, but doing this needs a stronger ups battery to reach 42 min or higher. Needs more operating with ups, it won’t turn on the passive cooling at first. May be a good thing, to drain the ups battery in bios.
Intel CPU seating design is flawed & warping causes heat issues. Certain aftermarket replacement brackets can correct that issue. I also prefer using high-end thermal pads to messy paste (which also degrades over time) & they work great. No issues.
I find that this is a issue with most GPUs, spreading it evenly solves that problem as the paste is less likely to shift to the sides as it grips the chip better
I was thinking he left the sticker on the cooler 😂
Me too
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The greatest technician that’s ever lived could do better, I’m sorry
Obviously he's the legend that legends pit themselves against
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Damn Intel 80c is considered normal. My Ryzen 1700 doesnt even touch 60c while gaming. Intel is wasting energy and creating heat.
@@kalzindor803no its not, I have a 12700k and it never gets above 65c
@@budgroweryt9947 is that below core i9? Cpu these days dont have to work hard, eating energy to play normal games. I use athlon2 x2 250 its 100% browsing internet windows 10. Heavy os, it was fine in windows 7 since 2011.
as a laptop user, man, 99 degrees is just a walk in the park
Who turned on the air conditioning??
Wdym? My boeing 737 runs completly fine
you're running the Chernobyl reactor hahaha!
dude, my absolute pride is when i managed to undervolt my laptop so it wasnt getting above 89C even at 100% load. laptops are insane
Mine was when I changed the thermal paste and started playing Elden Ring on less than 52c
bro slapped thermal paste like its a last one
he used it like a glue bruh💀
Gotta make sure it won't go to °99 again 😂😂😂😂
Too much is better than Not enough
His first mistake was getting an nzxt case that has no front airflow
People just get insufficient coolers. I’ve had an Nzxt h510 with an I7 10700, a Ryzen 5 5600x in an h510 flow, and then later a 7 5800x in an h510 flow, temps were in the 50s and 60s. H510 non flow was an air cooler, 510 flow had an aio.
With air cooling you need a case with proper ventilation. When water cooling you can get away with one of these crap cases because as long as you're pulling air across the radiator from outside the case somewhere then the CPU will be cool. This is because the coolant travels down to and then away from the cpu and is cooled elsewhere and not right on top of it in the middle of the case where the GPU and other items generate heat as well with no ventilation. The CPU staying at 80s instead of dropping to mid 70s is telling, and I'd wonder what the GPU temps are at extended sessions.
@@TheXeroLink my point was air cooling can be sufficient in an Nzxt case. Especially if you are able to undervolt. I’m not saying they’re the best flowing cases by any means what so ever. But they’re not as bad as everyone makes them seem to be.
@@justin_lee3005 Dawg, that is still a lot. I have an old but great case, the Corsair 760T with 3 fans and watercooling. My CPU has around 40 degrees Celsius at gaming and 30 when idle. GPU is sitting at 50-60 while gaming, 30-40 idle.
@@justin_lee3005 Sound like NZXT can't make shit
"-How much thermal paste did you put?"
"-Yes"
“Line method” 💀 what happened to only using the pea method
i cover the complete heatspreader with a thin layer and add an additional dot in the center. Never had issues with this method.
@@TechTalkTobi Either of those is not necessary
@@nfaguade i will keep my method. ;)
@@TechTalkTobi "Not had issues" doesn't mean much. It's meant to be minimal. Thermal paste isn't as conductive as metal. You want it to fill in micro air gaps but not so much that islt stops metal-to-metal contact.
Still averaging 84⁰? That's crazy 💀
12700k on tower cooler + non mesh front panel, seems about right 😂😂
I was thinking the same thing. Mine sits at 65-70 under load unless I'm really pushing it
Couldve saved all that time by just slightly undervolting the cpu, the 12th gen chips are known to run notoriously hot. The funny part of this video is him showing a spot on the cpu without thermal paste but we all know it was just stuck to the copper cold plate on the cooler….
Thats intel for you
Its Cinebench. Its meant to push it to the absolute limit.
I just find it funny how your own employee couldn’t figure that out
I'm sure the employee could but it made a youtube video didn't it?
ngl if the patron only dropped temps to 85° max on such a cooling system, he didn't fix it either
@MisterKrakens It's 65 in a CPU STRESS TEST. Meaning the cpu is running at 100% for a long amount of time. 85 in a cpu stress tests is actually really good. The average cpu will never see a 100% load like that ever. At most it may be 60-70. If that when gaming so in the reality the normal terms during gaming or whatever will be around the 60s range. Which again with an air cooler is really good.
@@Chrisp707- Really good for a terrible intel CPU*
@MisterKrakens no really good for any cpu under consistent 100% load. I get the hate for Intel is high. And it's well warranted. But don't let your hate block you from using logic. Any cpu maintaining 82C with an air cooler under 100% load on all cores and threats is REALLY good.
Thermal paste application is terrifying for me, because you won't know if you've done anything wrong until you fire up the system and you can't really check the application without starting all over again.
Thermal repasting is my personal favorite repair.
The best strat is to put a peasize drop ( u can go for a little more if ur concerned ) or u can go with an x pattern but put a little more paste in the middle
For me personally, and complete ease of mind, i do a thin spread. It’s a guaranteed way to have your IHS completely covered without having that question in the back of your head of complete coverage. The key of course is to THIN spread. You truly don’t need a lot of paste. Since thin spreading on my builds, I haven’t personally ran into any temperature or coverage issues at all. Whenever repasting was needed, the paste prior is always making full coverage. Just what I’ve found helps to keep my mind at ease whenever repasting or doing a rebuild in general, but to each their own! Plenty of methods work great.
@@mass_stay_tapped_in528my intel core 3 extreme is running since 2006 with no paste replacement 🥲🥲♥️♥️
i love that
At this point I’ve done it so many times I just know when enough is enough
> pc running tip top shape
> averaging 81°C
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Right?
That’s the comment I read the comments to find
should be 70 at max lol
81c in cinebench is perfectly fine
Mine runs at below 70* while gaming...Do Intel's run hot?
„And then I charged him $300 extra for cable management and fan installation“
This is the reason why benchmark and overclocking is important.
Other culprit: NZXT 💀
Is that nzxt case? Also is it mesh front or solid even?
@@jeremyg2236 solid
@@jeremyg2236solid
@jeremyg2236 I had that same model case. There's a sliver of mesh on the side and bottom near the front but the front itself is solid. There's not much airflow
@@jeremyg2236I have the same case it has a solid front but my gpu and cpu is on 50-60 max (while gaming) and the case looks amazing.
That amount of paste is terrifying lol
you forget to include the line-method.
@@joh3383 I mean... If a line makes me go fast maybe giving my CPU a line will make it go fast
@@joh3383 It almost doesn't matter what method you use.
@@user-ke1gn3ql1g whoosh
It looked like some of the thermal paste was hovering over the edge ready to fall off
I’m always blown away how that tiny little thermal paste made such a GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE
When I bought my i5-12600K, I had already heard about Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th gen chips running ridiculously hot. So I bought a $40 240mm AIO from Thermal Take. That was the best decision I ever made. My in game Temps never exceed 75C @ 5.3 GHz OC of the P-cores. (My E-cores are at 4.2 GHz).
"He built it at home, don't blame me"
how do i know that employee won't mess up my order?
I'm pretty sure they test their PCs before sending them off, no?
Probably, but that PC still worked. I personally wouldn't do any testing beyond "Does it boot properly", wich wouldn't show any overheating issues@@user-ke1gn3ql1g
You don't know if it's Janet from accounting, you assumed it was a PC builder.
I'm pretty sure "Janet From Accounting" would've just asked one of the builders to assemble it@@TigonIII
If you do something as a hobby, and get paid to do the same thing, you’ll knowingly cut more corners on your personal use.
You think every chef is cooking to the same level and quality at home as they are at work? Obviously not
For everyone that is gonna get an LGA1700 CPU or AM5 CPU, there are CPU Contact Frames that let's you replace the little thing that makes the plastic cover fly and scares you. It helps drop a few degrees and only costs 15 dollars maximum. Even if you're gonna get a 12100F, you should consider getting one.
It does more than that, the CPU pins can get bent as well over time using the stock frame, especially with an air cooler,so it prevents that and prevents that uneven thermal paste distribution
You don't need it for AM5, does not work
Offset Mounts yes.
i got one and my temps dropped from 50°c idle to almost under 30°c
12100f
have you idea if exists contact frames for intel 10th generation?
@freddyespinoza5115 10th and 11th Gen don't have contact frames unfortunately. I wish they did, but no one is making then.
Love the Loud House clip you used at the beginning.
Y’all be living a pipe dream if you think a cpu has to be below 60c while gaming and that 80c on a stress test is bad. Wait until y’all learn more about cpus and how much they are designed to handle. The only people that should care about very low temps is the advanced overclockers that do it for sport if anything else
Someone give this man a radiator 😂
99c? That thing was hot!
did you expect any less from Intel
Tbh not really
It's all relative. My Ryzen 7700X runs at 95C under load, by design. I actually overclocked, undervolted, set the thermal limit to 85C, and gained 2000 points on cinebench.
Wow, that can cook
Wow, that can cook
With that thermal paste application, hopefully this is the secretary.
Great job Zach! Your employees are so lucky to have a such a great and knowledgeable boss
You have to remember that it's not just a 14° improvement, since it throttled and doesn't anymore. So it's not only a temperature improvement, but also a performance improvement.
He has no intake fans… genius😂
Amazes me the amount of 12th gen users that I'd consider tech ppl or somewhat enthusiasts that didn't replace the factory cpu frame in their mobos, known for causing uneven cooler contact patches and overheating
Wow bro, you're such an incredibly skilled technician, please enlighten me with your wisdom..
So you applied thermal paste... And then put 2 more fans? That's just incredible, I'm speechless. True Mr robot stuff
lol ikr. wow. amazing. ... NOT
Here's some advice for anyone who's new to thermalpasting cpus, to figure out how much pressure you need squeeze out a few lines onto paper then once you feel like youve got it right, squeeze a downward line on the cpu and tighten it down, don't overtighten but tighten enough. If your cpu cooler has 4 screws, tighten them slightly each corner at a time, following the lines of the letter X. do that until its fully tight and it's perfect everytime
Or have a coke addicted friend do it for you. Don’t have a coke friend? Befriend one and you will save those extra steps.
@@TravisPluss Don't know how to befriend one? Just become the dealer.
Needs the contact bracket tbh, i bet that would drop temps even more significantly.
contact brackets wouldn't of done much in this circumstance, he needs a better case for better temps
My brother has this exact case. Two 140mm intake fans make a world of difference in temps, airflow and dust management. Slightly positive air pressure is always best
What does your employee do there, clean the bathroom? He literally decided to build the pc and not try to diagnose it himself first.
Bro reduced it from 200 F to 179 F
Who cares about fucking Fahrenheit. Just use Celsius like literally everyone else on the planet.
lol
Typical American
from hot to hot...
210 to 176*
Jesus christ dude you need to be supervised on the thermal pasted, that was enough for 3 cpus.
Doesn't matter, any extra will leak out on the sides when you tighten the heatsink. Unless it's conductive, the only risk is wasted money on the excess thermal paste.
@@Tardenglobe2346yeah and 20 minutes of cleaning that thing up
@@CallMeDezyno need to clean it
@@your_-_mom yeah if you like filthy thermal paste all over your pc parts then you're good to go
@@CallMeDezy the fuck is filthy about it 💀
Wow, so you went from horrible temperatures to still horrible temperatures, good job
hot cpu my friend ofc he could get like 10C+ off just by having more fans or better case but yeah
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5/5 hearing comprehension
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It’s crazy how CPU’s can withstand such high temperatures and still survives
They need to melt for damage
they have thermal limits, and will just shut the computer down if it goes above it
Modern cpu can handle up to 100 Celsius.
my 13900k eventually fried after 45 days of this bs
@@malachiashley528 And in those days you did nothing about it? bro you deserve that lol
Yikes! 82c is still high!
Absolutely not, it's 12th gen which has been designed to be safe at over 90°C. In gaming the temps will be closer to 65°C anyways.
when you testing in cinebench it will be higher, because it's pushing to the maximum. It will be 10-15 c more when using cinebench than it will be in games so
Idk I have a 3 fan aio cooler and a r7 5800x and In Cinebench I avarage around the same, in games tho I have not seen it push past 70°c
Tbf I need to get 3 more fans for the top of my case since my aio is side mounted (since I have a 5000D)
@atirta777 i get 9C during gaming (Doom Eternal 2K max settings) what u mean lol, and around 14c on rdr2
For the people saying its too much, Cinebench puts a lot more stress on the CPU than just gaming. Also, if you notice, the CPU was pulling almost 200 watts. Maybe some of you underclocked yours. Same thing was happening to me with my 12600k. It pulls less power, and I have a smaller cooler, but mine was doing over 95°C when doing benchmarks and thermal throttling. By default, it had an offset of +0.03V. I set it to -0.1, and its scoring the same, if not slightly better, but the highest temperature is 84°C, and it is still hitting its max frequency of 4.9GHz, 4.92 to be exact. I have not tried overclocking the frequency because I have a cheap motherboard that does not allow it.
Graphite thermal pads work so much better than thermal paste. Plus, you never have to change them and they’re also reusable. I got significantly cooler temperatures after switching.
Lmfao no it’s not.
Thermal paste is significantly better
@@brandonhoover2120 That is a blatant lie. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@HCG I do lmfao.
There is no instance in which a pad out performs paste.
@@brandonhoover2120 Look up IC graphite thermal pad and then come back and try and tell me that. It’s not literally a thermal pad child, it’s a sheet.
@@brandonhoover2120 Keep pretending like you know what you’re talking about though 🤡
that's not a line ... that's LINE !
What does your employee do that he couldn’t figure this out himself? Sound like he’s not the man for the job.
Anything for youtube video lol
Why would that be the case exactly? You think everyone working at a tech company is tech educated lol. Every company needs regular employees on top of their specialized employees. Video editor, accountant, marketing, sales, etc. When you get your first professional job you'll understand.
Proably accountant, video editor, social media marketing, ect who specialise on their own stuff
@@veenibik336based on trend nowadays, it should be HER PC 😂 like it's rare for women to be hardware enthusiast.
I’d recommend that he replaces the stock ILM with a Thermalright or thermal grizzly LGA1700 contact frame, if you look at one of gamers nexus’ videos on it you can see that the stock ILM puts uneven pressure causing the IHS to bend and not make good contact with the cooler. Regardless of thermal paste application there will be spots on the cpu that have little to no contact. The contact frame puts even pressure on the cpu so the IHS doesn’t bend allowing for full contact and thus full thermal conductivity
I’d say he could drop another 10°C on that processor with the ILM being replaced
This can happen on GPUs as well. I was having a problem with games crashing into black screens all the time but my GPU always read as 60-64 degrees under normal load. When I walked into something like a smoke, it'd crash.
Buddy of mine said I should check the GPU paste after trying everything else, and sure enough there was a hotspot. Fixed the issue right away.
1. Use contact frame
2. Use as small amount of paste as possible, direct contact is key. paste is just to fill the uneven gap.
this alone improve my cpu thermal by 10° without changing the cooler.
And also voided your warranty. Yes, it helps, but do you really need it on anything other than 13900K? Probably no
@@Jack-bg5bbjust reinstall the original lever what are you mentally ret@rded 😂
@@Jack-bg5bb12th and 13th needs it. And no, your warranty will you keep anyways, while using a cpu contact frame.
Yes, but one thing I will say, wrong way of saying it.. I keep my original hadware in a box. @@kevinlow69420
Even the employees are given budget paste 😬
Is it that bad?
@@Grayest_FoxNo, MX-4 is good
Shadow, what are you on?
MX-4 is perfectly fine as a thermal paste.
@@guyman1570 POG. I need to buy some since I'll be installing a new CPU
Mx 4 is one of the best but yes there is a newer version the mx6. Maybe you mean that his giving them older models??
Umm, I'm not an absolute PC building genius, but after building them for over 20 years, I've learned that you can have both too little or too much thermal paste. I'm also pretty sure that the "line" method is supposed to be around the size of an average grain of rice.
If you apply too much paste(as shown in this video) you actually stop the paste from doing it's job because the heat can't transfer properly. Also you need to be even more careful to apply it evenly, as you run the risk of creating even more small air bubbles/pockets as a result, which leads to the air collecting, just as shown the first time when he removed the heat sink.
I always now opt for the pea method, as it's virtually impossible to apply it unevenly, you only need to make sure you mount the heat sink evenly with as little movement as possible. Easy.
Water cooling seems like the smart option.
82°C is still mad
Your acoustic
@@Updaswitch4L K?
@@CG_Media95 82C isn't mad because you are stressing the CPU at the highest load it can do. In gaming it won't be hitting higher than 65 degrees. His aircooler is missing a front fan plus his case is really crappy with terrible airflow
@@Ladioz tru but mine was underload for a whole 5 hours and max it went was 74°C
@@Ladioz but he does have a significantly better cpu then mine which means it has way more power than mine so that makes sense nvr had a good cpu so thanks for reminding
If you still get 82 the airflow must be bad, change the case
80s still seems incredibly high!! Maybe it's just the chip, but I have a near identical case, with a 240mm AIO and a Ryzen 7 3700. My temps PEAK at like 60 degrees with intensive load and idle in the mid 30's
I suggest sanding down the cpu lid.
Many intel processors have incredibly bumpy lids and people don’t even talk about that. I improved my thermals by 12c just by leveling the lid.
I took extremely small amounts from the top, didn’t even thin the lid which I could have easily done.
*82°C 😲 I told my cousin when his 14700K reached 95°C that his CPU would max at 100°C, but this was not good. I picked out a 360mm AiO that had top CFM, static pressure, and high revolution fans. During benchmarks, his 14700K won't go any higher than 70°C. His scores are so much better.*
Here I thought my 45C was a little hot on my 13900K.
99 degrees?that's too cold for me,a laptop gamer
bro put the ENTIRE tube on there.
Its definitely leaking over the edges of the IHS
Imagine working at a company that builds PCs and not being able to fix your own private PC. 👀
The dude could just be back office. Sales, HR, accounting. All that good shot
@@RexOedipus.Or just simply didn't wanna do his own since he literally does it for a living🤣
i fix cars yet i dont fix mine myself weird world huh
@@BilboDabbin Could safe yourself tons of money.
Should probably fire your employee.
why would he do that
@@netuo and build a pc correctly
Even 82C is WAY too hot. I have a 12900k and the hottest I've seen it get in a really CPU intensive game is arounc 65. I will say I'm using a GIANT (like 3 foot tall) Thermaltake case, with a ton of airflow, and an Arctic Freezer II 280mm though.
Front fans are intake, radiator on the top of the case (blowing up and out obviously), and back fan is also output. The case has great filtering too so I have almost no dust buildup after 2 years (just have to clean the filters every once in awhile).
It's because it's a benchmark, not a game. Tye cpu will be around 65-70 while gaming
A tower cooler on anything greater than 6cores is always going to run high temps
Imagine having 12 cores and using air cooling.
Ir can work, granted you get the thermalite peerless assassin 120 SE. Keeps my 5900x at 27 degree c idle and 75 under load.
Imagine risking a multi thousand build for liquid cooling
@@legendmaster1989it's safe if you know what you are doing.
Other best thing is to just... Stick to 6 or 8 cores instead.
@@kingalastor936 air can do just as good as liquid at less the risk and problems
That pc looks sick no RGB rubbish
You don't need RGB for every pc🤓☝️
I love non-RGB builds so much. Don't need my PC to look like Rainbow Road from Mario Kart.
Straight PCs are always straight.
@@DustyCruzYou can set the rgb to a static color. I always set mine to the darkest white. It looks kinda cool.
@@DustyCruz Good one, I like to call them christmas tree builds.
Try using thermalright CPU bracket. The area with no thermal paste might be result of bending by the CPU Cooler. The CPU bracket will ensure there is not bend and will hold the CPU cooler more stable
more thermal paste is always better!..
just a huge concern if you're not planning to use that cpu a long time!
*Needs a AIO in that to help lower it*
I love that whenever it is a cpu problem, it is usually either thermal paste or the peel of it remained on it, lol.
That nzxt case has terrible air flow that's why its running hot, plus an air cooler on a i7 yeah it's gonna run hot
99 degrees? Bro's cpu was about to implode 💀
I have an old HP Pavillon with an old GeForce card that has around 128mb of ram, and when running furmark 2 on it, the thing got to 120 somthing Celsius, and that’s with the fan on and at max. It has a blower style on it by the way..
I used to build and fix PCs and yep. Number one non virus problem was improper thermal and poor circulation.
Get ye a homemade ESD strap and move things around.
Id love a pc from this guy like his content alot
Put an second fan on the front of that air cooler and you'll lose another 10 degrees. If you can't fit a 120mm because of the ram, put an 80mm fan there, it will still work.
this playlist reminds me only of the smile from the andrewgaming67, im so sad for this kiddo, they destroyed his whole world, laughed at him, killed all his pets and roasted him, then smile jumped into the well, which is a metaphor for death in this series
and the words "WHAT ARE FRIENDS FOR" are truly making me sad, no wonder after this he became a villain of this series as a completely blacked out human with only a big smile and eyes on his head
edit: i wrote this under the wrong video LMAOOOO
i didn't just fucking write that whole essay under the wrong video 💀
Same thing happened to my friend’s pc I built. The heat pipes weren’t in full contact with the cpu. Amazingly, the temperatures stayed below 80 degrees, but fluctuated quickly.
I had the same case model and the airflow was terrible. I had to run the pc with the glass off. Nzxt's newer cases are a drastic improvement with an additional bottom fan and vetalated front.
And extra fan blowing into the cooling fins on that cooler would probably drop it a few degrees.
THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THAT EVER LIVED
I really like how he showed the loud house at the start, it's my favourite show. Does anyone have any shows like it?
The gap isnt due to the amount of paste originally on the cpu. The problem is that ILM. Replace that with a Thermal Grizzly or Thermaltake cpu contact frame and that gap goes away. Temps drop remarkably. I run Lian Li 360 GA II Trinity SL Infinity in pushpull on an intel I9-13900K with a small thread of MX4 paste. CPU power limited to 225w on PL1 and XMP1 with 7200mhz ram otherwise stock bios settings my cinebench r23 runs 75°c MAX score 36784. Thats a little low but with the power limit and a contact frame Ive tamed a 348w monster
Set manual TDP in BIOS, use Contact Frame for 12th Gen CPU and above, apply a thin layer of thermal paste with a plastic spatula - not a sausage!
That's incompetence and throwing your employee under the bus. Also complete lack of knowledge regarding the case because this garbage case ONLY works when you have a negative pressure setup, which you destroyed by placing those fans on the front panel.
This problem can be avoided by completely covering the cpu with thermal paste. I never understood why people use pea size dots or lines that possibly might not spread out completely which is what caused this problem in the first place.
I think what you mean by completely covering is using a pattern that would cover most surface area. If you were actually to just put it all along the surface that would cause some issues
@@crem444 I worked at computer shops for 20 years and I've always completely covered the cpu die before putting on the cooler. That way there's no doubt it's applied well. Any excess gets squeezed out. It has never failed me, unlike people who use pea size amounts or draw an X or whatever.
Should've thrown a Thermalright LGA1700 frame too, it really helped cooling down that beast
That pc looks AWESOME!!
The first thing I go for is repasting as well. Then again, I’ve never had this problem. I’ve had others have problems with simple fixes though. I also use MX-4 as well. In fact my old tube was unusable for my upcoming build, so I bought a new tube and haven’t even opened it yet.
I put a blob in centre of the cpu only enough to be spread across the surface of the cpu and it's kept mine nice and cool
82 Celsius is still way too hot. As most people watching this video know, way too much thermal paste was used during the "fix", and now this computer may face other issues in addition to excessive thermal paste leading to high temps.
Lol imho it still runs very hot , replace the cooler with an aio watercooler and it feels much better.
I run a 4790k that did the same high temps on full load on an air cooler, but with the aio watercooler (liquid freezer 240) it only maxes out at 67 degrees.
Now do it again and do it right this time. Fit a Thermal Grizzly or Thermalright LGA1700 contact frame to knock another 5c or more off - and prevent it getting worse over time as the IHS bends in the middle.
They also make one for AM5, so don’t get too excited AMD gang.
the case bad,
nice cooler,
spread thermal paste for even distribution and even better temps,
Hopefully airflow is positive lol
A more firm cpu bracket can also make the temps cooler
I had a friend who would close ever app once the cpu temp was over 60°C. its kinda funny how compared to that, 85 degrees is normal and stuff.
I’ve got a 13500 with a similar noctua cooler. I applied the paste using the 5 dot method and I idle at 28 degrees and even at 100% cpu I don’t see much over 60 degrees. Very impressed with Noctua. Also I’ve got a Fractal North case not NZXT.
Got really old Components so not much heat either way, i7 3770k and a gtx 1060.
I got a cabinet from work, so switched over from a Fractal Define cabinet to a Fractal Focus 2.
I went from cpu being 60c and less with Fractals Define. To less than 50c under gaming now with the Fractals Focus 2. Fractals always got good airflow.
One negative though, the pc isn't getting warm enough anymore to heat up my room 😂
Honest to God the real culprit here is the case. NZXT H510 is known to be a HORRIBLE case for cooling. They even made a flow edition because of that. I have one
I remember when I had to transfer my pc from malaysia to aus. it was such a pain because they said they would put a fragile sticker on it and all but they put it on the hard luggage, gpu socket broke, and the cpu cooler fell off
82°C in cinebench without any OC is crazy hot for a 12th gen i7.
I'm on a 5900X with a slight OC and a dark rock pro 4 and don't go above 74°C in cinebench.
Could have installed a new socket 1700 contact frame. That may have lowered temps even more. Also, he needs to get a case that has better airflow.
You may try Opera, TH-cam, and choose a 8k Hd video to watch and stream for a while. A 720p hd video (Cod Black ops full gameplay) halted my Win 7, and I had to force the power up. It happened 10x, and the cpu overheating stopped. The 2.1 ghz laptop accepted the video, and I could watch it using 80% cpu load instead of 100% leading to frameskip. Another way to stop overheating, is using the pc with ups, usb is not needed. My Pentium 3 1 ghz didn’t need a cooler afterward, but doing this needs a stronger ups battery to reach 42 min or higher. Needs more operating with ups, it won’t turn on the passive cooling at first. May be a good thing, to drain the ups battery in bios.
Intel CPU seating design is flawed & warping causes heat issues. Certain aftermarket replacement brackets can correct that issue. I also prefer using high-end thermal pads to messy paste (which also degrades over time) & they work great. No issues.
meanwhile my laptop idling at 100°C 🤡
82c seems high though. I have the same CPU and get 58-62c temps in COD MW3. Air cooled with a Deepcool AK620
I find that this is a issue with most GPUs, spreading it evenly solves that problem as the paste is less likely to shift to the sides as it grips the chip better