TF2: 7 Years without Valve

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
  • Team Fortress 2 has no received an update in over 7 years now. This needs to change, fast.
    This video was concepted and had its intro made whilst I was having a panic attack about existentialism. To cope with the idea of years going by, both with TF2 and with my life, I wrote this video’s intro.
    Please do not do what I did. Go to therapy, it’s so much healthier than making a TF2 video.
    Shoutout to ​⁠‪@SonderCycle‬ for the thumbnail! Go check out his animated SFM videos.
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  • @Lonqudor
    @Lonqudor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1597

    See you all in 14 years lads

    • @ironpainting1210
      @ironpainting1210 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Oh god

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      2 steps ahead of

    • @SpanishmafiaIdiocyIncarnate
      @SpanishmafiaIdiocyIncarnate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      hello lon i am going to steal able

    • @PerogiTime
      @PerogiTime 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SpanishmafiaIdiocyIncarnate NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY PERFECT BOY

    • @Shadicals
      @Shadicals 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You know Valve acted on the cheaters?

  • @sherlockhomeless135
    @sherlockhomeless135 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1025

    The most optimistic TF2 video I saw recently

    • @disastercal1
      @disastercal1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I can’t help but feel that you’re being a bit sarcastic.

    • @sherlockhomeless135
      @sherlockhomeless135 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      @@disastercal1 I'm completly honest here, I thought that it better for TF2 to stay the way it is now, but after watching this video I changed my mind and now think that there is no need to be afraid of changes in our beloved game

  • @thegamerFOX45
    @thegamerFOX45 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +445

    valve in 10 years: "huh? oh yeah we forgot we had this stored, here have half life 3 and a tf2 major update + merch and comic"

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      For real, absolutely a valve move.

    • @bonkatomicpunchenjoyer
      @bonkatomicpunchenjoyer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      THE HEAVY UPDATE

    • @bramvanvliet1654
      @bramvanvliet1654 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bonkatomicpunchenjoyer😂❤

    • @fallenmango8420
      @fallenmango8420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The last chapter of the comic is already announced. We’re getting it soon.

    • @bonqueequee69
      @bonqueequee69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Heavy and the sex update

  • @no-legjohnny3691
    @no-legjohnny3691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +587

    I'd like to imagine that somewhere there's a rip-off of the "Abandoned by Disney" creepypasta named "Abandoned by Valve". Except instead of a crappy attempt at horror, it's a sad story of someone finding a poor lonesome Hoovy as the last and sole inhabitant of a rotting and crumbling 2Fort.

    • @levence643
      @levence643 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      abandoned by disney was goated though, one of my favorite creepypasta. would love a modern remake of it, though. especially when looking at current disney

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      The photonegative Hoovy is a manifestation of all the hatred towards volvo for mismanaging the game. He throws you a sandwich made of trade up fodder hats.

    • @ARG0T
      @ARG0T 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That was about as awful as the creepypasta

    • @somethingstudios34
      @somethingstudios34 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now i have to make that

    • @ivscookie
      @ivscookie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ima do that, thanks for the idea!

  • @demering
    @demering 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +185

    it'd be so funny if a major update releases like, days after this video

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Just know I called :salute:

    • @jakethebaconhair29
      @jakethebaconhair29 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope

    • @druidplayz2313
      @druidplayz2313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      God i fucking hope so

    • @toji_reborn
      @toji_reborn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it's coming in december I am a time traveller.

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a man can dream

  • @valeriandragonfist1843
    @valeriandragonfist1843 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    I have never seen a major tf2 update I started playing after jungle inferno. It has become one of my favorite games

    • @brentpeeters304
      @brentpeeters304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Welcome to the community! It's after 10+ years still my favourite PC game. I'm sure that it'll stay one of your favourite games for the rest of your life! 🥳

    • @odyga8330
      @odyga8330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same, I started playing after quarantine was announced in my country

  • @ghostinabot1891
    @ghostinabot1891 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Valve is like my dad who went to get milk and never came back.

  • @TheRealEdenGD
    @TheRealEdenGD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    nah until it's proven right i am NOT believing 20 people work on tf2

    • @MrGoatIII
      @MrGoatIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      agreed

    • @woofes8958
      @woofes8958 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Same. The person who claimed that 20 people are working on TF2 on the stream could be a random person spreading false information and Cipherlock being hyped over nothing.

    • @StudioYami
      @StudioYami 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Legit, I 100% think that's a flat-out lie.

    • @manhoovy193
      @manhoovy193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro got trolled

    • @druidplayz2313
      @druidplayz2313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      This counts the 3 janitors 7 managers and a potted plant as developers,

  • @tugazu
    @tugazu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +336

    Bro really became the thinker in the intro

  • @cordak_Blaster
    @cordak_Blaster 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    After 7 years without development We hope it was worth the wait.

    • @RayLilith
      @RayLilith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      based name and pfp

  • @p0g666
    @p0g666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    I feel really sad I’ve never even gotten to experience an actual large update happening, I’ve heard it’s so cool

    • @FBracht
      @FBracht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I'm the opposite. I played TF2 *to death* at the beginning. Didn't catch it on release, but shortly after the first update. I stayed on board, playing it obsessively, only stopping when it became clear that hats and alternate weapons were the future of the game. Then I jumped ship. When I did, I don't think any class had more than 1 or 2 alternate weapons for each weapon type. I absolutely loved that elegance and simplicity, and felt sad the game was on the path to lose it - as it did.
      Now I'm super interested in getting back to TF2, but it's absolutely overwhelming. If you see someone running around with stock weapons and no hats, it's probably me.

    • @everwinter9795
      @everwinter9795 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FBrachtNo worries friend you’ll get all the weapons you need in time with effort or money either or works

    • @Tornado_Mang
      @Tornado_Mang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FBracht do yourself a favour and download the mod that gets rid of all the cosmetics from a visual standpoint; people will still wear theirs, but you will not see them and it will feel a lot fresh and familiar. Also most stock weapons are still considered the go-to, so don't feel pressured by the "new" flashy weapons
      Alternatively, get Team Fortress 2 Classic, a great fan mod that adds a few additional weapons, the 9th class (Civilian from TFC, who was planned but removed in favour of the payload in payload maps, and even GRN and YLW teams) but keeps out the fluff. Problem is that it's just not as alive as TF2.

    • @Nick-yl4qp
      @Nick-yl4qp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The content was cool but sometimes there'd be one or two weapon changes that really didn't make sense. But it was cool. I played the day it became f2p because little kid with no money. My favourite update must've been Pyromania. And I also remember the day the conga dropped. Everyone was dancing everywhere

    • @NeonBeeCat
      @NeonBeeCat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FBrachtmost of the stock weapons are the best ones anyway, besides hats suck.

  • @Gnome_Tank
    @Gnome_Tank 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    Meet up with you guys same time same place? Yeah? Alright see you in 7 years

    • @alanavalos6645
      @alanavalos6645 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ping me in the comment on 7 years if I’m here

    • @DX-RAGNAROK
      @DX-RAGNAROK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      See y’all then

    • @SolverDeltaic
      @SolverDeltaic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If that so, remind me in 7 years, see ya

    • @DS-wk9gb
      @DS-wk9gb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds good

    • @nicklenuts
      @nicklenuts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sure think I got 7 years left in me

  • @CoralCopperHead
    @CoralCopperHead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "I first touched this game at the age of six-"
    I was about to say 'nice parenting,' then I realized my first game was the shareware version of Doom at age four.

  • @hoobertduebert1766
    @hoobertduebert1766 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I started playing tf2 less than a year ago and immediately fell in love with playing it, and it immediately became my main game despite me sucking at it, which is rare for any game im newly starting but it was just so fun even when i was god-awful at it. I never really considered the possibility of the game updating, really considering it as one of those games thats basically "completed", but the idea of bigger new content sounds way too exciting and this video made me want a new update way more than i should

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's actually an interesting way to look at it. I grew up since the era of constant updates, so seeing it in newer eyes would be impossible for me. Might be good for me to make a video on...

  • @ka-tray
    @ka-tray หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys, I started playing this game when I was 13, and now I’m 21... still addicted. 💀

  • @Grilledch3z
    @Grilledch3z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Don’t worry we’ll get the next comic in 10 more years👍

  • @Player2Vibes
    @Player2Vibes 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well at least we got the final comic

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am genuinely blown away we got it, at the earliest I thought it would be end of 2025!

  • @Zam-nam
    @Zam-nam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Man, this really made me about what can happen in 7 years. Also your editing is great

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Truly hurts to think about, over a third of my life.

    • @regisegek4675
      @regisegek4675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cipherlock same, sad as f , like an update every 2 year would have been cool, golden year of TF2 were 2007-2016

  • @Holyspirit5509
    @Holyspirit5509 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The fact that he got an answer by taunt kill is the most TF2 thing i have seen fr.

  • @Evilgreasemonkey
    @Evilgreasemonkey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I keep hearing about the golden age of tf2 and I feel like I missed it, with all my heart I want that to experience what that was like I want the tf2 you had

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This hurts me so much, every time I hear that someone joined the party too late. It really was a better time.

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cipherlock
      2018 is considered too little too late

    • @bradentheman1373
      @bradentheman1373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cipherlock I joined the party too late, i’m 15 right now and have no access to a computer, tf2 means so much to me even now. I remember when i was little, i use to play sometimes on my older brothers computer - those small moments were the only thing i had close to that. ❤💙

    • @sultan__8636
      @sultan__8636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cipherlock i joined in 2018

  • @sultim7570
    @sultim7570 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    But we need to keep in mind, that behind the word "Valve" there are developers, people. They most probably burnt out by the idea of TF2. No matter the money, no matter the support, burning out from an idea is exhausting to a point that even the most valued piece of art can become so mundane.. to a point when it's hard to look at without getting a feeling of exhaustion

    • @america-861
      @america-861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amen

    • @milleriam2405
      @milleriam2405 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Then hire someone else who is passionate?

    • @necrotafeio
      @necrotafeio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@milleriam2405 they are too greedy for this

    • @dmnc_cmnd
      @dmnc_cmnd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They literally created the workshop for a reason

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On the flip side there are talented people out there who would love to work just on TF2 so it's a matter of hiring them

  • @Bayyyro
    @Bayyyro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:36 the Janitor and the plant.

  • @JBBrickman
    @JBBrickman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, Jungle inferno was also 2017? Looking back 2017 ,might have been the best year I can remember, every time I look into it, it turns out most of my favorite thing were getting updates, being released, or getting trailers dropped in 2017, I mean heck that was the year the Nintendo Switch released. That might be the best year of the 21st century.

  • @dhdhdfndmdhmhmgh
    @dhdhdfndmdhmhmgh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    i feel sad , long live for TF2

  • @pisaschitt787
    @pisaschitt787 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I should be glad that I at least started playing tf2 in 2016 and got to experience one major update before we didnt get one for almost a decade

  • @RuddPH
    @RuddPH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Remind me to come back here in 7-8 years ❤️

  • @countsaintgermain393
    @countsaintgermain393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    might as well tell the while story with the lenghty wait before Jungle Inferno which too was years. It was my first and only major update, rest is just cosmetic cash grabs, buggy untested maps (remember untested breadspace?) and 0 vac functionality.

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m still amazed by Cashworks. Could literally just walk into enemy spawns

  • @sunbuYT
    @sunbuYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm really worried the TF2 community will become complacent in updates that contain only bug fixes, unusual effects, maps, and cosmetics.
    TF2 is so much more than said community content only.

    • @bradentheman1373
      @bradentheman1373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t think they will, their main priority was the bot and bug fixes, just to make the game PLAYABLE, and many of the community don’t stop talking about the fact they don’t update the game, i have hope

  • @itchylol742
    @itchylol742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    super smash bros melee survived 23 years without updates i think we'll be fine

    • @potatork1ng311
      @potatork1ng311 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Super smash bros gets new whole games, Tf3 isn’t out so idk what you mean

    • @_speedyhops8058
      @_speedyhops8058 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@potatork1ng311that's not the point silly goose 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂?
      the point is that there's still a community around melee after 23 years without any fixes or updates! 😂 I think that's what he means 😛🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

    • @iguessthisismyworkaccountl8437
      @iguessthisismyworkaccountl8437 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      and meelee isnt even GOOD!

    • @potatork1ng311
      @potatork1ng311 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@_speedyhops8058 that makes more sense, my bad lol

    • @krinklerstuff8983
      @krinklerstuff8983 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@potatork1ng311bro why yo pfp gonna put me back together

  • @VladdyDaddy45
    @VladdyDaddy45 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    i only started playing on december 21, 2021, and I never knew any feeling of a major update, and i dont think tf2 *needs* another update, but the idea of a major update sounds so alluring...

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      That’s one of the reasons why I want a “major update” again so badly, there are SO many people out there who never got to experience the hype and anticipation of a new update like jungle inferno…

    • @nicklerick
      @nicklerick 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It's the difference between nutrition suppluments, and a hardy fufilling meal.
      TF2 is currently getting nutrition supplements, with the ocational candy. with a bug fixes, unusuals, maps, etc.
      But nutrision supplements, are NOT as good as normal food.
      In the past, tf2 has had some very good meals. such as jumgle inferno, love and war, etc.
      they had everything the suppluments had, but they tasted good.
      Whast TF2 dosent NEED an update, Suppluments aren't as as tasty or fun as a felit minon with asparigus and fries.

    • @T.T.ATwistedTornadoArchives.
      @T.T.ATwistedTornadoArchives. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@nicklerickwhy does the grammar get progressively worse throughout this comment lol

    • @NeonBeeCat
      @NeonBeeCat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@T.T.ATwistedTornadoArchives.tf2 player rot

  • @The.Hell.is.Singing
    @The.Hell.is.Singing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Idc whats gonna happen All I want is just to call the freekin Medic

  • @kaiotrem358
    @kaiotrem358 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I am 15, weird to think that tf2 hasn't been updated for almost half of my life.

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm only a few months older than this game, sooo in 2 more years it would've had no major updates for half my life

    • @ka-tray
      @ka-tray หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was 13 years old when I played that game, but I stopped playing it years ago to focus on my life. Now that I’m 21, I’m hoping to play TF2 again soon once I’ve finished the important stuff.

  • @lucasthefox3748
    @lucasthefox3748 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "It was rigged from the start"

  • @yzwn8597
    @yzwn8597 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video! I’ve unfortunately never gotten the experience of a new major update in TF2 but I’m definitely hoping for it. This game is awesome and it deserves all the praise!!

  • @mastermario6637
    @mastermario6637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    11:24 This is actually such a good life lesson and you thought we wouldn't notice

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I try. Just cause this is a silly TF2 video doesn’t mean I can’t try to give advice 😁

  • @JackyLongbrook
    @JackyLongbrook 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    "TF2 has not recieved a major update since Jungle Inferno"
    Blue Moon Update.

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Shit, yeah I guess that would count, it did have weapon balancing. I somehow forgot about it 😂

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cipherlock Technically, they did release an Iron Bomber model with 3 grenade slots.

    • @Mannco.orange
      @Mannco.orange 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is the Blue Moon update?

    • @zichenghan7585
      @zichenghan7585 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really a ‘major’ update tbh, but it’s something

  • @skyfemboy
    @skyfemboy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I am 24 years old and I have experienced almost every single update TF2 has ever had. I barely play nowadays but I do still come back to this gem every once in a while and play for a few weeks. It is truly sad it got abandoned.

  • @OlaftheGreat
    @OlaftheGreat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every now and then I get burnt out on the game, and maybe I'll take a few months off, maybe even a year...but I always come back. This game has utterly captivated me, and until the day the servers are dead, I'll always have this wonderful game to call home.

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't even think killing the servers would take TF2 away from us, it will still exist on the internet, our hearts and in community servers.

  • @zenlis1291
    @zenlis1291 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    i have yet to experience a major update.

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I pray this changes.

    • @Joe_.
      @Joe_. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same.

  • @ixleght
    @ixleght 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve never seen a better outro

  • @bobisbob4252
    @bobisbob4252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I first started playing TF2 October of 2014. It truly does not feel like 10 years have gone by, and the fact that seven of those years has been dry of major update content is such an insane thought. In just the 3 years I played before jungle inferno it felt like an entirely different game, with all the major updates and NEW WEAPONS. It’s also completely disheartening to think about all the new players that have never experienced the absolute joy it is to mess around with the new content. I feel for y’all truly.

  • @TimMatterSnorri999
    @TimMatterSnorri999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We the Tf2 Community and Players are Tf2 now!
    We are in Charge now!
    Valve: .... Okay. Have Fun.

  • @julianle1803
    @julianle1803 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    that intro was majestic, no actually it was gold!

  • @agentdelta569
    @agentdelta569 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    few things i wanted to say watching this
    1 relate so much to your story of your childhood
    for my 18th birthday i held a lan party with every computer and laptop i could scrape together, just to play tf2 with all my friends and family
    whilst im cautious, but i do feel that the quality of the tf2 updates has been slowly improving, for a long while tf2's updates were just garbage hats, and maps (wutville) theyve slowly become less garbage hats, less garbage maps, theyve added important things like moving the code base over to 64bit, adding VScript, adding 100 player limit options, adding community fixes section to the workshop these changes still pale to the incredible updates of old, and i still yearn for the day that the ambassador gets reverted to its pre-jungle inferno status after its wrongful nerf in Jungle inferno, but it does feel like whoever is working on TF2 is slowly getting better / more efficient, or managing to rope in more help, or whatever have you in getting TF2 updates to just be a little bit better
    lastly, i know your friend from valve said that 20ish people are working on TF2, but that could mean a lot of different things,
    and before i continue, i dont want to make it sound like any one persons job is less important than another
    do the people making the Comic count? because that's at least a writer or two, an artist or 3, and never mind proof reading, checking for errors with the drawings
    dont get me wrong, the TF Comic would be amazing to see, but its not going to change the game
    even if they are actually working on the game, there is a big difference between someone who works on importing models / textures from the workshop for hats, someone who helps beta test maps to see how well they play, someone who manually bans players who cheat, or grief someone who works on the technical stuff, like adding in Vscript, 100 player limit, 64bit update, getting a community fix section working on the workshop
    dont get me wrong, all of these jobs are important in different ways, but ultimately, realistically, none of these 20 people are working on actually making another major update to the game
    and whilst ill always be hopeful, it does leave me sad at the raw potential tf2 will never see because of it
    as a huge fan of TF2, ive written up a ton of changes id love to see added to the game, docs.google.com/document/d/1O3eW-Vh6mV4roi3J55nJw48B0zGkxW7M3RekIevgcQA/edit
    think about all the cool stuff that could exist
    fun new weapons like giving scout a BHop Scattergun, heavy a sandvich minigun replacement and demoman a market gardener,
    balancing weapons like the ambassador to feel fun and useful, making the sandman guilotine combo, fun, but fair
    adding in female versions of the TF2 mercs
    giving tf2 a pseudo story that also works as a built in tutorial for new players
    never mind countless fixes to old default settings, mvm issues, in-game competitive issues
    one day i hope valve capitalizes on the games potential, its so amazing already, it would be truly magical if the game was able to grow into what it could be

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even if 20 people work on it. I doubt that it's full time, because it's probably 20 people working on it on and off.

  • @FreakyHimmel
    @FreakyHimmel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dont want a key but thats supreme commander 2

  • @LittleBigBwner
    @LittleBigBwner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *In 2 more years* "I'm afraid it's been.. 9 years."

  • @SentryWill
    @SentryWill 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:05 the answer is one. Summer 2023 is officially listed as a major update in the patch notes

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ain’t no way 💀

  • @thesis_gaia7960
    @thesis_gaia7960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tf2 at this point is like a stranger stranded in time after surviving for so long that everything changed so drastically that you're just a relic of another time.

  • @Catdash5510
    @Catdash5510 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    meet you in a few years.. mates..

  • @ottergauze
    @ottergauze 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The bug fixes, bot bans and the 64-bit update (which improved a lot particularly on Linux) makes me think, personally overly optimistically, they are making improvements behind the scenes.

  • @TromboneGamer
    @TromboneGamer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's the thing about TF2. TF2, as a game, is just not mainstream in the way it used to be and it's old. Is it popular? Sure, to some degree, but like you said. most of Valve wants to work on new projects. Maybe Jungle Inferno could've been a bigger update, but even if it was, I doubt the game would have caught fire the way it needed to garner attention like Counter-Strike does. There are just too many factors holding the game back from evolving the way we hope it would. But at least the game is playable again and that's something to be celebrated.

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I definitely agree. I was astounded that the bots have been banned for good, so despite the lack of major updates, I am still going to enjoy the game while we can!

  • @thatonetf2guy06
    @thatonetf2guy06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    cipher in the outro is a nice touch to a nostalgic game like tf2 good job mate :)

  • @tetro431
    @tetro431 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    at first I thought this video was gona make me sad but now I am hopeful.

  • @Misterboringguy
    @Misterboringguy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    We were promised a Heavy Update😢

  • @geofue5164
    @geofue5164 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this intro is gold tier

  • @LazT11
    @LazT11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    well be singing 7 years old

  • @DispenserGamingtf2
    @DispenserGamingtf2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    dude that intro was deep as F***

  • @xsherm13x
    @xsherm13x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “You were real good son, real good. Maybe even the best..””
    -Rick May

  • @Ledplous
    @Ledplous 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    20?!!! 20 people working on tf2??! That's incredible, no, literally, Im unable to believe such a claim, I'd need proof.
    I really hope tf2 gets the proper treatment it deserves.
    In my opinion, a whole remaster (source2, less unusuals, remove the bad hats, make the game nice to look at in general not an oversaturated game) that would be the most beneficial thing that could happen to this game.

    • @rewixx69420
      @rewixx69420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      bro porting all the maps will be a pain but possible

    • @MrGoatIII
      @MrGoatIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewixx69420 I'm pretty sure a billion dollar, AAA, literal Game Changer of a company, and all of the employees with over a decade in experience in Game development can port a 17 year old game.

    • @luizeduardodick1461
      @luizeduardodick1461 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@MrGoatIII but with all the issues with the game's age and the code, that it would simply be easier to just make a new game with reused assets

    • @Ledplous
      @Ledplous 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@rewixx69420 Seriusly, we dont need all of them, there're too many in my opinion. Lets get the most played/ best valued maps

    • @MrGoatIII
      @MrGoatIII 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@luizeduardodick1461 u right

  • @CrinklyLawyer73
    @CrinklyLawyer73 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The halloween smissmas and summer updates are still great

  • @GUISSEPPE-g6w
    @GUISSEPPE-g6w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That intro hit different

  • @ycerseption5962
    @ycerseption5962 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    maybe the update is the friends we made along the way

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      fire

    • @LitaretheLad-o4v
      @LitaretheLad-o4v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@vintagememelord8168 your profile + "fire", implies the original commenter gets hit with a firing squad

  • @chad1630
    @chad1630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hyped to see more vids from you- that intro was amazing

  • @MadContendery
    @MadContendery 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "7 years. i've always been 7 years."

  • @coryestewart
    @coryestewart 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I started playing this game when I was 11. My family didn’t have money for WiFi, so I would sit against our living room window to steal our neighbors WiFi.

  • @GooseBombs16
    @GooseBombs16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can see 3 years later: Happy No-New-Update in 1 decade anniversary Valve!!

  • @watulookinat
    @watulookinat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "See you in another 15 year"

  • @LD-sx9pr
    @LD-sx9pr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I left TF2 for the lack of content and care valve left behind. My buddies are now playing CS2 and they now feel what it was like being a TF2 player

  • @happyraintf
    @happyraintf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Powerful intro, man!

    • @bradentheman1373
      @bradentheman1373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it legit got me hooked, smart

  • @Ze9zz
    @Ze9zz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "14 years without valve."

  • @Mr_Rob_ot
    @Mr_Rob_ot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I will live before the next tf2 update comes out because i HAVE UBERCHARHE -medic

  • @rickyfatty3884
    @rickyfatty3884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    that intro actually fire tho

  • @sayan-4971
    @sayan-4971 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Its an eternity in there.."

  • @vaderexmachina
    @vaderexmachina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Started playing just before Love & War Update came out. Man i miss those days....

  • @bunkerbuster4266
    @bunkerbuster4266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know what's underrepresented to getting added to TF2?
    WEAPON RESKINS

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’ve always been a strange case to me…

  • @FreakyHimmel
    @FreakyHimmel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    SLIME RANCHER MUSIC IDENTIFIED

  • @NeonBeeCat
    @NeonBeeCat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deep in an abandoned facility, locked behind a blast door, you can find everything valve has forgotten.

  • @YellowCounters9666
    @YellowCounters9666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roses are red.
    Violets are blue.
    Where's the spy?
    Right behind you.

  • @micboyyaboy2578
    @micboyyaboy2578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dude, growing up playing TF2 with your family sounds so sick... I only really got into TF2 a couple years back, and only me and my younger brother are really ever into it. My dad did play back before it went f2p, but he's just not the gamer he used to be anymore. My older brother and sister dont really care about it past the memes and sfms, and my mom is straight up against it.

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, my mother is against gaming, but the rest of my family are all gamers, such a blessing

  • @Pyromaniax
    @Pyromaniax 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im not kidding i daydreamed so much about game improvements in the meantime that i came up with a complete Team Fortress 3 pitch

    • @brockthebananabruiser2819
      @brockthebananabruiser2819 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lets hear it!

    • @Pyromaniax
      @Pyromaniax 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brockthebananabruiser2819 id prolly need a hour long video lol

    • @brockthebananabruiser2819
      @brockthebananabruiser2819 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Pyromaniax tf2 viewers have that attention span if the 12 hour Badwater video is something to go by

  • @triledink
    @triledink 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have been playing TF2 since almost its release, I started playing back in 2008 and have experienced all the golden age updated and events. Valve is pretty much just using it as a money printer now, the passion in the community has never been higher than it is now, but valve doesn't really care as much as they did back in the day.

  • @christophergray3476
    @christophergray3476 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I just realized the last time they made a big update was when I was 3 years old😢

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      edp445 has joined**

    • @bonkatomicpunchenjoyer
      @bonkatomicpunchenjoyer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you were 3 years old in 2017? go play roblox

    • @kerbal_lE
      @kerbal_lE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bro is 8 lmao

  • @Vergilcore
    @Vergilcore 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Give Heavy some soup Preferably Borscht.

  • @BarneyCalhounHL
    @BarneyCalhounHL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh boy, here we go again.

  • @Matejuss
    @Matejuss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video gives me hope man. I started playing the game when I was 10 in 2016 and I only saw one major update and since then they decided to not do updates for 7 years :( Let's hope that changes soon...

  • @VoidDave
    @VoidDave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn i lost hope for major updates like in old age. but damn 20+ employes ? are we back ?

  • @potato_lord8495
    @potato_lord8495 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The music in the end really brings some memories

  • @DanDaFreakinMan
    @DanDaFreakinMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Concord would kill to get a fraction of fame TF2 has. Yet Valve just leaves the money on the table...

    • @Basuko_Smoker
      @Basuko_Smoker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Idk how true IS that, some people that Play games on and off (not daily) still don't know tf2 even exists, even less so than its made by valve

    • @DanDaFreakinMan
      @DanDaFreakinMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Basuko_Smoker pretty much all gamers know of them. While casuals at least saw their characters. It's in the public's concious at the very least.
      Concord, on the other hand, no one even knows them outside of gaming circle

    • @Capiosus
      @Capiosus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Basuko_Smokerif you haven’t seen any tf2 characters then you haven’t been on the internet

    • @Basuko_Smoker
      @Basuko_Smoker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Capiosus I Perfectly know, made my Steam account in 2011 just to install TF2...But people around me barely know that this game even exists and they 80% at least completed a couple of AAA titles (i Guess that qualifies as average gamer?)

    • @Basuko_Smoker
      @Basuko_Smoker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DanDaFreakinMan oh yeah, if I mention Concord nobody even knows if im talking about a game or a band of some sort lmao

  • @coteyka1209
    @coteyka1209 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this vid is so freaking COOL

  • @Dark-jf6cl
    @Dark-jf6cl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video gave me hope to this game

    • @bradentheman1373
      @bradentheman1373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My hope came back with the SaveTF2 movement, seeing over 200k people sign the petition really gave me hope. And it’s so nice to see that people won’t give up. Long Live TF2

  • @recorder2002
    @recorder2002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Whatever you like it or not developers will move on from a game sooner or later. In that time, you either continue playing the game for what it is or you ether move on when you had enough.
    Play tf2 for what it is, not for hopping to get something new.

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m going to continue enjoying this game while I can, no matter what Valve chooses to do.

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thank you

  • @FranchoMT
    @FranchoMT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have 17 years and i am worried i will never experience a tf2 update in my life, i am about to end high school and tf2 hasen't received a mayor update for all those years

    • @itchylol742
      @itchylol742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      chess players arent worried about updates, they simply play. be like chess players

    • @FranchoMT
      @FranchoMT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@itchylol742 compare chess a gameboard game with tf2 a multiplayer online game with hats and cosmetics and made by a multibillon company is wild

    • @polfloe10
      @polfloe10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itchylol742 okay yea but they didnt delete the bishop before they left. and chess getting updates wasnt part of its whole thing

  • @blitzkrieg2928
    @blitzkrieg2928 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Even if they dont give us a big update(which i doubt their reputation with having cheaters in most of their games caught up with them), having no bots around and an upcoming comic is still a big step in the right direction

  • @FakeCoconut-v7o
    @FakeCoconut-v7o 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "20 people are working on the TF2."
    Source trust me bro, I guess.

  • @EmanS117
    @EmanS117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've experienced a few casual servers where the enemy team was all bots. But it only lasts about 4-5 minutes before they all get removed/ banned simultaneously, then the real players flood in.
    Keep it up Volvo! 👍

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great work, I am so surprised they are getting kicked so fast.

  • @TheRealLTO
    @TheRealLTO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m betting now I’m be in my 30s or 40s (or dead) when the next major TF2 update comes out (I’m 3 years from finishing high school if y’all want some more sense)

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gonna start uni next year.
      I'm gonna finish uni int he next 7 years

  • @tenyearsinthejoint1
    @tenyearsinthejoint1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    MORB HUD SPOTTED

    • @cipherlock
      @cipherlock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      morbius my beloved

  • @Your_amigobro
    @Your_amigobro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really good video!

  • @just_dell
    @just_dell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Check description, typo!! "no received" So silly!!!

  • @Moarsalt
    @Moarsalt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seven years eh ? Another day older and deeper in more crates.
    See yall in another 7 ish years if Valve still does nothing

    • @vintagememelord8168
      @vintagememelord8168 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well?

    • @Moarsalt
      @Moarsalt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vintagememelord8168 Nothing yet, perhaps 7 more years ?