Removing the axle and then using a piece of threaded rod and a hole in the work bench makes it easier and a one person job for removing and installing the tires ;-)
Nice job. Didn't know that you needed three spoons! I purchased my valve stem supports from Napa and it was a year before I figured out that I installed them wrong. Ha!
Thanks for upload you cool video. We are a new group of ATV people that came to TH-cam trying to educate our communities about good ATVing. We hoping find new ideas of how we can make happen. Keep running in...
Great video, I want a Rokon too! My Maule bushplane has 31 inch tundra tires that I operate at 7 psi. Anyway with heavy braking the tire spun on the 10 inch wheel and sheared off the valve stem. When I remounted the tires I added contact cement to the wheel and tire beads. Since utilizing the contact cement I have had no problems with tire slippage and disassembling the tires isn’t a problem either. Just a thought. Really enjoyed your video
The Honda can do trails and roads , can it climb a steep hill possibly wooded and brushy where no trail exists ,especially in the two wheel model , can the Honda carry its own fuel reserve in its hollow rim ? The Rokon is truly a two wheeled tractor or 2x2x2 the last two are the drivers legs when the going is extreme. They will only do 35mph so your Honda is faster but speed isn't everything.
Stripmccatpuss... I've already done the entertainment for ya, so Robbie doesn't have to.. (I haven't tried a stoppie since)- Mark th-cam.com/video/8_GnoQ0cxpQ/w-d-xo.html
Fire Mountain Outdoors Nice Mark, I didn't know they had a name for riding the front wheel. Stripy doesn't have enough money for me to even try that :)
Great video boys, I know it was many years ago but I’m just seeing it now. And I know flats aren’t a real big deal, but why wouldn’t you put a brand new tube in there? They’re not that expensive, I would’ve done that anyway. Long as you got it apart. New tires New tube 👍
+panhead1219 The most common setup would be to use an outboard motor fuel line and primer bulb/pump. Just stick one hose in the bung in the wheel, and the other in the fuel tank, and pump away.
What a great video, thanks for showing this. Did you find this change to make the ride softer? What was the reason for going with the tube vs tubeless? I noticed that the aluminum was corroded, when you hear folks talk about water or fuel in the rim, with all that corrosion you would think that would be bad for both your body and the carburetor. Any thoughts on what to do, keep fuel or water in at all times to keep this from happening? Peace, Reese
Great video! There is one thing I would have done differently. As much work as it is to change the tires, I would have put in new tubes as well. They don't cost that much, and might save a flat way out in the boonies.
Absolutely right I would have at least clean the mud and debris off that tube couldn't help but notice that going back in.Cant see that being good for the tubes rubbing against it be like sandpaper.
I have a 2002 Rokon Trainbreaker (Kohler motor) and suregrup tires that are fairly worn out. Would these Maxix Bighorn tires work for me . . .?? Thanks, great video.
+JamesStaudacher Bighorns will work however you will need a different size. The older Rokons like mine, had 15" drum wheels. I believe many of the 2002 wheels were 12"
Is it an optical illusion or do the early Rokon models have a taller wheel, I heard you say 15", the new model seems to 13" or 14", am I wrong. Wish we could get these bikes in Australia.
Awesome vid guys, always love em. And I would love to see more of these bikes! How much does one of these cost? Never had one, but I've seen me around and they look bad ass. I'd love to try one out, look like a ton of fun!
Thanks for the how to guys! As usual I enjoyed watching your "Show". I have a question concerning the tubes. What size tubes did you use or did you reuse the ones used with the suregrips?
A new tube would probably be from China and have a stem in a weird spot or configuration, turning into a giant PITA.... And besides, the tubes have been in the dark and not exposed to any UV deterioration... Or that's what we told ourselves to justify putting our old junk back in... ;-)
Fredrik Johansson they are really amazing. We had the opportunity to go to their factory and watch the building process. Although they are similar to the older bikes they are far more advanced. If I was looking for a Rokon and had the money I would fork over the cash for a new one. If you get a chance to ride one, you'll be sold.
What, you mean you weren't standing around with a smartphone in your hand watching the AAA guy change your tires?! LOL Was curious, since those rims look like they're spun aluminum, could you not have converterted to a tubeless setup, or would you be prone to breaking the tire bead because of the low running pressures you mentioned you use?
Boat outboard motor primer pump in a hose.. One end in the wheel, other in the tank. Pump away. Mileage varies. On long, hard, full day rides, the two stroke guys need to take extra fuel. The four strokes seem to run forever on a tank of fuel.
Seems to me it would be a good idea to paint or seal the alloy wheels. Maybe anodize them? Wouldn't want too much oxidation. What about the steel frames? Do people seal the tubing? I could see rusting being an issue. I know I use Boeshield on the steel mountain bike frames.
I've done plenty of tire spooning. Glad I bought a motorcycle tire machine. I enjoy the Rokon vids.
Just when I think I know what I’m doing, and then I see a truck powered bead breaker. Good stuff 👍🏻
Please make more of these how to's!! Great video.
Noticed you had a can of Kroil on the table...good stuff. I use it a lot at home and at work. Good DIY. Thanks for posting it.
Man I gotta have a rokon, have a blessed day.
Removing the axle and then using a piece of threaded rod and a hole in the work bench makes it easier and a one person job for removing and installing the tires ;-)
Nice job. Didn't know that you needed three spoons! I purchased my valve stem supports from Napa and it was a year before I figured out that I installed them wrong. Ha!
I totally know what you mean. I would have installed it upside down if Mark hadn't of taken the lead. LOL
Thanks for upload you cool video. We are a new group of ATV people that came to TH-cam trying to educate our communities about good ATVing. We hoping find new ideas of how we can make happen. Keep running in...
Rokon... Definitely on the to own list.
I'm glad you watched and took the time to comment!!
We wanna have a Rokon Romp in Aruba!!
I really enjoyed it and learned, hope to have a Rokon someday thanks Karl
Great video, I want a Rokon too! My Maule bushplane has 31 inch tundra tires that I operate at 7 psi. Anyway with heavy braking the tire spun on the 10 inch wheel and sheared off the valve stem. When I remounted the tires I added contact cement to the wheel and tire beads. Since utilizing the contact cement I have had no problems with tire slippage and disassembling the tires isn’t a problem either. Just a thought. Really enjoyed your video
Make more rokon videos of climbing steep stuff with the new tires . Great vid liked and subscribed .
Not knocking your video at all. My 2008 Honda 400ex floated across water very nicely also and was able to lightly accelerate and turn. Cool rig!
The Honda can do trails and roads , can it climb a steep hill possibly wooded and brushy where no trail exists ,especially in the two wheel model , can the Honda carry its own fuel reserve in its hollow rim ? The Rokon is truly a two wheeled tractor or 2x2x2 the last two are the drivers legs when the going is extreme. They will only do 35mph so your Honda is faster but speed isn't everything.
You guys make it look so easy! Great teamwork and music selection :)
Thanks Robbie!
I would pay big bucks to watch you ride one of these :)))
Stripmccatpuss... I've already done the entertainment for ya, so Robbie doesn't have to.. (I haven't tried a stoppie since)- Mark
th-cam.com/video/8_GnoQ0cxpQ/w-d-xo.html
Fire Mountain Outdoors LOL, nice....
Sorry but it is YT law I rag on Robbie, he has the same duty to give me a hard time :)
Fire Mountain Outdoors
Nice Mark, I didn't know they had a name for riding the front wheel. Stripy doesn't have enough money for me to even try that :)
Great job guys.
You are a genius...Thanks for sharing...
Good demonstration
Inflate tubs just a little bit when installing to help tubs fit inside of tire. Inflate tub till tire seats on rim, then deflate to desired pressure.
you could coat the rim on the inside with fluid film its a very long lasting corrosion inhibitor and lubricant
Good job
Great video boys, I know it was many years ago but I’m just seeing it now. And I know flats aren’t a real big deal, but why wouldn’t you put a brand new tube in there? They’re not that expensive, I would’ve done that anyway. Long as you got it apart. New tires New tube 👍
Nice Kittery Trading Post shirt.
It's one of our favorite places to shop when we are in Maine! Cabelas comes close but nothing beats Kittery.
+panhead1219
The most common setup would be to use an outboard motor fuel line and primer bulb/pump.
Just stick one hose in the bung in the wheel, and the other in the fuel tank, and pump away.
It could be done... with serious modifications, including cutting, and grinding the frame and welding on a new fork pivot boss(fish mouth), etc...
Those Tire "Beads" Were SuperGlued!
(Were Those TheOriginal 1976 Tires & "Beads"?...if So, *Wow!*
Thank you, shared YT & FB
We appreciate it. Thanks for watching and sharing.
What a great video, thanks for showing this. Did you find this change to make the ride softer? What was the reason for going with the tube vs tubeless? I noticed that the aluminum was corroded, when you hear folks talk about water or fuel in the rim, with all that corrosion you would think that would be bad for both your body and the carburetor. Any thoughts on what to do, keep fuel or water in at all times to keep this from happening? Peace, Reese
We're could I find a rokon roller minus the motor. I built one years ago with a Honda trail90 engine. Was much quieter and user friendly
You won me over at Alter Bridge
Great video! There is one thing I would have done differently. As much work as it is to change the tires, I would have put in new tubes as well. They don't cost that much, and might save a flat way out in the boonies.
Absolutely right I would have at least clean the mud and debris off that tube couldn't help but notice that going back in.Cant see that being good for the tubes rubbing against it be like sandpaper.
I have a 2002 Rokon Trainbreaker (Kohler motor) and suregrup tires that are fairly worn out. Would these Maxix Bighorn tires work for me . . .?? Thanks, great video.
+JamesStaudacher Bighorns will work however you will need a different size. The older Rokons like mine, had 15" drum wheels. I believe many of the 2002 wheels were 12"
Thank you, my wheels are 15inch so they will work.
Is it an optical illusion or do the early Rokon models have a taller wheel, I heard you say 15", the new model seems to 13" or 14", am I wrong. Wish we could get these bikes in Australia.
+Alf Bittner Correct. In the mid-1970's Rokon began to offer 12" wheels. The older bikes like mine had 15" wheels.
When installing the new tires wouldn’t it have been easier putting the tire on the bottom with the rim on top to give you more room for leverage?
Awesome vid guys, always love em. And I would love to see more of these bikes! How much does one of these cost? Never had one, but I've seen me around and they look bad ass. I'd love to try one out, look like a ton of fun!
I see them in running condition on Craigslist from $800-$8000. One like the yellow one in the video might set you back about $2k.
Awesome, good to know. Thanks!
Do i need to remove the tire to replace the valve stem on a 2001 drum rokon tire?
Good vid
Thanks for the how to guys! As usual I enjoyed watching your "Show". I have a question concerning the tubes. What size tubes did you use or did you reuse the ones used with the suregrips?
We reused the sureslip tubes.
Fire Mountain Outdoors Thanks I'm glad I can reuse my 46 year old tubes!
A new tube would probably be from China and have a stem in a weird spot or configuration, turning into a giant PITA.... And besides, the tubes have been in the dark and not exposed to any UV deterioration...
Or that's what we told ourselves to justify putting our old junk back in... ;-)
Got to ask you boys, the new Rokons with front suspension, are the Rokon with front suspension worth the extra money???
Fredrik Johansson they are really amazing. We had the opportunity to go to their factory and watch the building process. Although they are similar to the older bikes they are far more advanced. If I was looking for a Rokon and had the money I would fork over the cash for a new one. If you get a chance to ride one, you'll be sold.
Awesome! Now i know i can buy the Mototractor with good confidence.
What, you mean you weren't standing around with a smartphone in your hand watching the AAA guy change your tires?! LOL
Was curious, since those rims look like they're spun aluminum, could you not have converterted to a tubeless setup, or would you be prone to breaking the tire bead because of the low running pressures you mentioned you use?
That's precisely it RCStomper.
Thanks, too bad about smaller diameter loosing ground clearance.
I would like to have the old tires for my david bradley tractor.
Are the maxxis tyers smaller than the originals?
A BigHorn for TheFront Tire, & a *DURO* WoolyBooger Copy for TheBack.
(Those Would Be My Rokon Tires.)
Are the new ones unidirectional
Hmmmm...looks like those rims can be modified as a storage compartment for...well...you know :-)
Perfect for smuggling droids past the Empire.
Yeah that too :-)
Preciso de peças ROKON automática, pneus?
When putting the tires back on the bike, how do we know that the side tensioners are adjusted properly (wheel is straight)?
Dave... Great question. I plan on doing a quick 'how to' video this week if my schedule allows.
Thanks for watching!
Mark
Can you put tubeless valve stem
If your useing the rims to carry extra fuel any tricks for getting fuel from rim to tank
How long does a full tank of fuel last trail rideing ?
Boat outboard motor primer pump in a hose.. One end in the wheel, other in the tank. Pump away.
Mileage varies. On long, hard, full day rides, the two stroke guys need to take extra fuel. The four strokes seem to run forever on a tank of fuel.
Thanks, I rode a rokon back in the 70's
COORS!!!
Are here any rokon riding droops in Michigan? I'm tried of riding alone.
West Michigan here
the bumper of a truck and a hi-lift jack works better and less likely to fuck up the wheel
thats how i break down the 17-40-15s on my 71 chevy long box and how i did the 14-35-15z on my old 72 wagoner
Would you post the exact size of the tire you used.
It's in the video description. In case you missed it, 6 ply ALL TERRAIN
26X8RX15
Seems to me it would be a good idea to paint or seal the alloy wheels. Maybe anodize them? Wouldn't want too much oxidation.
What about the steel frames? Do people seal the tubing? I could see rusting being an issue. I know I use Boeshield on the steel mountain bike frames.
Why didn't you take the axles out ?
K Dyer why would you take the axles out? Unless the bearings are bad, it’s an unnecessary step.
My 1983 Trail Breaker has 6.50-15" tires on it...what is that actual tire that your using....
+rayjs1963 It's in the video description.. 6 ply 26x8Rx15
Thanks for watching! Rokon!!!
Them tractor type tires are no good on brush or a little snow
PSI ?
At 4:50....1/2 psi
ALWAYS use a new tube when possible, that rubber is as old as the tire!
Nerds
if your not saving the old tires, cut them off to reduce the chance of hurting the rim....