Jayson Tatum Is A Weird Superstar
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2023
- Jayson Tatum is one of the most bizarre superstars in the NBA Today. The Boston Celtics star has had a rollercoaster playoff run where he has constantly flip flopped between playing some of the best basketball of the year, to being a non factor. Tatum's inconsistency has become a recurring criticism and this year has arguably been the worst. Yet the highs for Tatum are still so high. It's why Jayson Tatum is the weirdest superstar in the NBA Today...
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From 19 pts in game 6 to 51 and a nba record in game 7. How does he go from HOFer 1 game to liability the next 😵💫
game 1: 0/2, 2 points, 3 TO’s in the final 3 minutes
game 2: 0/3, 4 points, 3 TO’s in the entire 4th quarter
A legit second option currently. Play through JB
@@jjcometa9333 yea JB is doing great 38% fg this series u clown
@@bo_g4284 wrong information stop slander
@@youngboy2pacdrake Those stats are accurate lol
Facts, I think he’s top 5 but something’s weird about him and the team
I personally think it’s because the team isn’t built around Tatum’s strengths and weaknesses it was just built with him on the roster
especially when he has a fresh cut
Agreed we should basically always be running our offense through Tatum unless Brown is hot. Absurd that there wasn’t more of an effort to get him the ball in the fourth in game 1
@@nicholaskalen5513 Literally every other team run plays for their best players to hunt mismatches except for the Celtics, Offensively they play the exact same way no matter who the team is they never take advantages of mismatches
Then they run plays for White, Brogdon, Smart, And make JT and Brown iso ?
game 1: 0/2, 2 points, 3 TO’s in the final 3 minutes
game 2: 0/3, 4 points, 3 TO’s in the entire 4th quarter
top 5 fr?
Theres also the fact that hes a player thats pretty good at everything but elite at nothing so no part of his game really stands out unlike other superstars.
As a Celtics fan this is a really good video unlike other videos which just throw Jayson Tatum completely under the bus you actually talk about him in a neutral way which doesn't piss people off.
As a Celtics fan Tatum is an odd case cause he really feels like a top 5 player in the league, but sometimes he kinda just fucks around and shoots 2-10 on side step threes despite him being one of the worst off the dribble three point shooters this year.
He and the team are gonna come back tonight and Tatum will probably score like 41 tonight just cause why not
@@Thugg12 I don't think I've ever heard him think that he's steph
5:08 “barely anyone thought they had a chance to win"
Really? I distinctly remember everyone raving about the celtics' defense. Hell they were even heavily favored by ESPN odds
espn odds were a joke
i didnt say so tho
Players like Booker get dogged on while people like Tatum and Embiid can continue to shit the bed in every way possible in a super easy Conference.
He is an enigma so people don't know what to think of him. He flexes and shouts when he is on a roll but that's it.He doesn't trash talk or taunt so the opposing team's fans feel meh. Mj did that but feeds on that negative energy to power his game so opponents are really scared of him. On the other side, the celtics find ways to lose horribly at home so positive energy does jack shit to tatum's game. It's hard to be loved/hated when you flip flop.
Tatum should have the energy and tenacity of KG. He should also ask Larry Bird how to intimidate his opponents.
He's such a weird no. 1 since you just cant expect anything from him. His lows are atrocious while his highs matches top 5 players
Expect anything😂 wtf are u saying he just avg 30,9,4 on 79 games, we can expect those stats 🤣
The fact this has 24 upvotes literally makes me want to give up on the world lol
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game 1: 0/2, 2 points, 3 TO’s in the final 3 minutes
game 2: 0/3, 4 points, 3 TO’s in the entire 4th quarter
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For his size Tatum doesn't have enough of a paint game, which could probably improve his efficiency and put that "fear" into other players. You don't have to respect him consistently bc he won't dominate you at all three levels
Until he REALLY dominates the game in the post, that’s gonna be the case
Low cut Tatum was different.. he had more of a dog in him like when he dunked on Lebron in the ECF he was a dog fr
what are you talking about no one expects them to win the 2022 finals? The Celtics are the favorites and are even up 2-1 versus the Warriors.
Yeah they were definitely the favorites 😂 people forget so quick and we have the internet 😂😂😂
This aged about as perfectly as it could after Game 2 Tatum in the 4th quarter.
Wasn't trauma fault he got tripled teamed💀 literally was jbs fault
and here we are Heat up 2-0 with Tatum only scoring only free 6 throws in 4th qtr
Top 2 basketball fears: being defended by Tim Duncan, defending Playoff Jimmy Jordan
tim duncan wasnt good on defense
@@youngboy2pacdrake do you know who Tim Duncan is?
@@damaybe4653 guard?
@@youngboy2pacdrake you call a player that you don’t even know bad?
@@damaybe4653 this kids mom didnt hold him enough as a child, so now he looks for attention by saying dumb shit on youtube. ignore him lol
Me personally I don't rock with the Celtics for some reason but I like Jayson Tatum he's a cool player and he's fun to watch
think you made your own counterpoint, bro has already been to multiple ECF, toe to toe with the king, and a finals appearance at 25. I understand him not being the stereotypical star, but he has accomplished more than a lot of other rising stars.
also loved the vid go C's !
I will say that the Heat do fear Tatum. Fear in the sense of respect. When Tatum has the ball they are ready to collapse. They’ve been content to leave everyone else 1 on 1.
3:12 He took 3 steps on that step back jumper. Sometimes players take 4 steps. Calling more traveling violations would make the game more watchable for me.
Tatum and Brown are the Durant and Westbrook of the Celtics
Or maybe the Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter of the decade.
Two alphas who defer to their teammate cause there's a lowkey power struggle between the two over who really is the star
Fact! Been saying this for a couple of years. I feel like there is an extra level to browns game and everyone kinda knows it but since Tatum was the one who developed faster they built the offense around him more and kinda made him the “guy” meanwhile brown is arguably just as good or maybe even a little better than Tatum especially when it comes to scoring. I think Celtics lose this year and for both the Celtics future and Jaylen brown individually they need to go their separate ways.
@@ballsballsballs3617 I respect your opinion, but I completely disagree. Tatum and Brown have stated how much they love playing with each other and they truly play and fit well with each other. In Game 1 vs Miami Tatum was going off and then Jaylen had his turn. Coach Zu should’ve ran plays for Tatum but ran 2 that lead to turnovers, the pump fake dribble shouldn’t have been a turnover in my opinion even tho it doesn’t matter 😂. They ran iso for Jaylen even tho Tatum was cooking w/ no timeouts being called from Joe! I disagree that he’s a “inconsistent superstar” or “fake superstar” by a country mile. He’s statistically one of the most efficient players ever, that’s a different point 😂.
Jaylen is the perfect number 2 to Tatum’s number 1. Jaylen is the perfect “clean up crew guy” for Tatum. If Tatum is playing like garbage or sloppy then Brown can go off if need be. But if Brown is hot from the start they let him cook. Tatum’s inconsistent first Finals appearance was mainly due to a wrist injury, which he still hasn’t had surgery on, and it being his first finals. LeBron played horrible in his first Finals as well which I haven’t noticed many people say.
The Philly series was a mess for a couple games on his part. Smart was a large part of saving the series w/ Tatum’s 4th quarter Game 6 and 51 pt Game 7. But he wasn’t as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
In order from Game 1 through 7: 39-11-5 on 14 for 25
7-7-3 on 1-7 in 19 minutes
27-10-5 on 10-20
24-18-6 on 9-20
36-10-5 on 11-27
19-9-6 on 5-21 but 16 in the 4th
51-13-5 w/ 0 tov in Game 7
@Serocco I agree with you on the Durant and Westbrook take. That’s a great comparison. But their isn’t really a power struggle. They made the team to compliment Jayson & Jaylen as their go to stars (the gap between the two is bigger than the media has portrayed it to be) instead of just around Tatum.
That’s my opinion which doesn’t hold true value 😂, read my essay if you want idc 😂
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@@ballsballsballs3617Jaylen turn over with no handles who sit him self when Tatum got injured. I can't remember jaylen brown scoring 50 to save the team do u?
And look at that they win game 4 with him scoring 33, might be on to something with the idea of needing his back against the wall.
This era of the NBA are full of soft & streaky superstars. The playoffs are fully exposing them.
💯 the playoffs keep exposing JT
You must not know about Karl, Drob, Ewing, Bird, Dominique, Wilt, etc. Dropping in their playoff career.
Did espn not have the Celtics as a 93% favorite against the warriors? Everyone thought the Celtics were going to win. People were saying they were one of the 10 best defenses EVER. Then Steph Curry lit them up and now it's "warriors getting another free championship." Revisionist history bruh
He don’t got that AURA yet 😂
Finding this video just after the All Star break the season after this video was made, it strikes me how much better the C's are as a whole now. Tatum's a lot more consistent this year and we're not in as deep of a shit if he has an off night because we have 3-4 reliable offensive options at all times as opposed to basically only Brown last season. Tatum has also struck me as a lot more goal oriented this season - it's basically win or bust. That means that he's putting the team's success over his own individual performance - in this weekend's 116-102 win against the Knicks he was basically invisible on the offense in the first half because Brown was going off and the best choice for the team was playing decoy in the corner while playing stable defence. While he's still our #1 option, we're not rising and falling as much by his performance now that we've added KP and Holiday and DWhite has come into his own as a reliable all around player. I'm eagerly awaiting the playoffs, we might just go all the way this time
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HE NO SUPER STAR..... HE JUST A STAR
i agree. this is why the jalen contract becomes extra scary. hes also a weird superstar
He ain’t HIM.
2:46 Bro!!! I won $1000 on that game cuz I felt the exact same way about him and put Everyone else’s over and just his under! I’m glad Someone finally talking about this! Love the channellll
Holy shit my comment made it into the video at 0:18 let's go
that is fake lol
Lets also not change history now, celtics were favored against the warriors
There's something weird about the 2 biggest Kobe worshipper, namely Tatum and Booker. It's like they model their game after Kobe but not their mentality. When things go well, boy do they get hot. But when pressure and stakes are on the line, they disappear. The Kobe I knew and grew up watching certainly doesn't roll with that kind of mentality.
And they not shoot to many pull up 3s like they Steph. I know this is the 3 point era. But if your shot isn’t falling then find another shot. Get to the free throw line or something
Tatum actually plays absolutely nothing like kobe
His handle is suspect. Other than that he’s great.
Tatum and brown both go from goats to scrubs in seconds
Jokic is the face of the NBA and its no debate. This shouldn't be a conversation at this point.
He's the best player, but Steph and LeBron are the two faces. Nuggets games are nowhere near as popular, nor are his jerseys.
there is a difference between being the face of the league and being the best player in the league. Jokic as good as he is he doesn't have the sort of play-style/charisma to be the face of the league. I'll give you an example in the 2000s tim duncan was the best player but the face of the league was kobe because kobe had a more entertaining personality/playstyle when compared to duncan.
Honestly, when it comes to the "fear" factor, then I guarantee that Embiid, and maybe even Giannis to a degree "fear" Tatum as much as another superstar can fear another player. They have both experienced, multiple times, Tatum taking over a crucial playoff game and going off. Heck, Giannis openly talked about his game 6 performance during the all-star game picks.
i honestly do think tatum and really the whole celtics team needs that fight or flight response to really be their best bc ever since they swept the nets in the first round of last years playoffs they've gone to 7 games or at least 6 games with every team since then and they drop game 1s or game 5s and go down 3-2 and then have to comeback on teams. i think that goes hand in hand w tatum not having that killer instinct like MJ, kobe, lebron, etc bc him and the celtics let teams hang around too much and then go to 6 or 7 and then are too tired when they get deeper into the playoffs bc they end up having to play more games then their opposition. idk why but they seem like they just don't have the mentality to show no mercy and close a team out and beat them in 4 or 5. im interested to see how they respond in game 2 tonight against the Heat and the rest of the playoffs.
wrong opinion
Inconsistent. Thats one big way to describe him
wrong opinion you are casual nba fan
U don't make 4 conference finals and a finals in 6 seasons in the NBA as ur teams best player by being inconsistent dumbasss
He's 8-3 in closeout games and 7-3 in game 7s
no, he’s not. there is just so my hype and expectation around him because he’s surpassed all expectations for a player his age…
hit the nail on the head with this analysis. you can also apply these points to why devin booker isn't a true superstar either. it's really annoying seeing these two propped up as the "next kobes", when they CLEARLY don't have even a fraction of the edge or the killer mentality that was a hallmark of kobes aura. it's like, "oh mid range centric shooting guard who constantly talks about idolizing kobe, must have the mamba mentality". it's such a lazy piss poor take and i'm glad someone actually articulated the reasons why these two don't actually have superstar intangibles.
Tatum and brown are both introverted people who just like to do their job but aren’t manager type of people. Introverts can be super great at what they do like Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, etc.
I don't think JB & JT being introverts has anything to do with them ineffective leaders. You have to remember both Kobe & MJ were also introverts and they were "manger type people".
Jayson Tatum will most likely be considered the best player in the NBA by the time this season is over
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s crazy cause I thought maybe I was just trippin but I feel like myself included in this ppl don’t think about Tatum. Unless your like a Celts fan
Barely anyone thought they had a chance to beat Warriors last yr? What revionist history is this? Nearly everyone picked them to beat GS last yr, especially after sweeping Nets. Celtics were polled at over 80% to beat the Warriors. No one saw the Warriors winning last yr.
Tatum is fraudulent. He doesn’t have the leadership intangibles as a Lebron, Kobe or Jordan. He doesn’t scare you like Steph or even Jimmy Butler cause he’s too inconsistent. His skill set is also too close to Jaylen Brown so it’s not a typical co-star relationship on the Celtics and half the time Jaylen is bailing him out, but Jaylen is the one in trade talks whenever the Celtics so much as lose a random game in December. He’s a weird superstar cause you don’t feel it. Above these stats, you can usually feel who’s the man on the court when you either play hoops or are a real fan.
Kobe was nowhere near Lebron or Jordan. Your comment is fraudulent.
I wish JB was bailing out Tatum, the C's would be unstoppable if that was the case.
😂😂😂 they are the perfect duo for the modern NBA, ask Demar & PG. Tatum the Number 1 & Brown the Number 2. I love my Jay’s
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@@basedat4651 none of them win lmaooo
@@brycetheoddball Olympic Gold 😂
He scored 16 pts in 4th quarter!!!!!!! Well, a Lakers bench player scored 15 in 4th quarter too. I can't even remember his name. Was it Walker?
I feel anxious when I watch the celtics play and I don't even want them to win.
6:35 well tbf Tatum did bang on horf when he played in Philly
You give Tatum talent to Butler: That's a ring.
Multiple rings. If I had the magic powers to give him that talent I would, but he would have to be a Celtic lol Tired of 12s point in big game Tatum.
Make a video about the Heat please 🙏🏼
Yall remember when people crowned him for being a good dad in the off-season
The lightskin assault rifle
The actual reason is that the way he isn't considered someone in contention for the face of the league for many is because the way he plays isn't an anomaly. He is just really fucking good. There isn't anything particularly different about what he does. You can't point to his athleticism like Ja, or his insane shooting like steph. He isn't a freak of nature like lebron or giannis. He doesn't even have a particularly interesting personality like kobe or kawhi. By all accounts he is a nice guy who is a great dad. He is just averagely really fucking good at basketball and a pretty stand up guy. that doesnt generate headlines.
Unique perspective on Tatum. He's still my favorite tho and potential face of the league.
Simple question: do you want Tatum or Jimmy Butler? I'll take Jimmy Buckets always!
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Just don’t got that dawg in him
The problem wuth the celtics is that they arent built to benefit tatum and jaylen to their greatest extent even though the team touts these two as the teams' main role players.
Tatum lacks that killer instinct. Remember when the celts had a team meeting lead by Smart to verbalize the pecking order of the line up? If you need a team meeting to decide that you are the alpha, then you are not really the alpha. I blame Kyrie for this. I think he held Tatum from becoming the team leader from the beginning and its taking him time to get to that mentality now.
But you watch some games when he gets a couple bad calls from the refs and he gets angry. He is literally unguardable when he plays angry. He needs to play with that chip on his shoulder every game. Kind of like how Kobe did it.
I think its a situation were they are just playing against a team with a better defence and hustle, lets be real 76ers defence was sorry and it flamed out and the heat despite there struggles in the game they kept at it non stop, they are simply playing a harder team and some stars shine against them and some just play averge.I dont personaly have tatum in my top 5 but he def top 10
As a 76ers fan I 100% agree that our defense was sorry and that we lacked discipline in that series and in general. The Heat are a team full of hustlers, underdogs, and complete beasts. They’re not gonna give an inch so the Celtics will need to be on more than they were in the 2nd round to beat the Heat. Should be a great game tonight though.
Tatum instill fear, watch the games and you will see how often hes doubled...
Its because Tatum has the it factor sometimes and the next he passes up the shot or lets players like Derrick White or Marcus Smart attempt a game winner that has you scratching ur head.
Just heard you admit you were wrong about Tatum and the Celtics going into game 6 against 76ers. Just wanted to pay respects to you admitting when you have it wrong and moving on. Feel like sports analysts could learn a ton from you guys!
Such a weird way to think about it, but Jayson Tatum is more like Jaylen Brown than he'll ever be to Kobe Bryant.
Bro go-to bed lol
When I see him play I feel good vibe about him game
He just need to quit jacking a lot of 3s and improve he's midrange ala kawhi and drive more often to the basket.. He's 6'8 or 6'9 and long he's got every advantage he needs to utilize it while he is young
as a celtics fans yeah jt is weird superstar for us, my guy can turn to 2018 bron one game and the other game turn into a rotation player, but for me jt needs help like really needs help we cant just relied on jb if jt not performing because jb aint that guy who can led a team to finals, we need another supertstar or atleast an allstar player yes we got kristaps now but i dont see were going that deep in the playoff’s next year with kristaps
I personally believe that if Tatum became more consistent, he will be running the league
Tatum is what I like to call, The Inconsistent Superstar. Some days he’s hot, some days cold.
But when it comes to those really clutch situations like that game 7 where it’s do or die, he gives every inch of himself to ensure that the Celtics WILL win; that beast mode known by many as the REAL “mamba mentality”.
I think Kobe truly had a lasting effect on Tatum and now he just needs to learn to bring out this beast at will.
I believe we are witnessing the coming of a legitimate Kobe-esque star that will be a household name everywhere.
Just give him more time to really hone in on this feeling while in this playoffs.
He will never be a household name. He'll never even win a ring.
for me whole boston team for last couple years is totaly weird, sometimes I think they far far better than other teams in NBA and sometimes I just think they are just avarage NBA team like Hawks. Also LJ dont have that "dog" inside of him but he ended many dynasties and teams in NBA. Only this playoff run Memphis teamm chemistry is destroyed, GSW dynasty is probably over and LJ with LA did it. You don't fear LJ as person butyou fear he will win and you will need to face sport consequences. Look at coach of Toronto Dwane Casey from 2018, he won best coach of year literally 2 days after he got fired lol, because what LJ did to Toronto.
He not a super star never was. He a ight player
His inconsistency really kills his case. That’s exactly why the Celtics can’t win a chip
TLDR: dude has no aura
2018 Jayson was not there best player and also they had no business losing that series
wrong opinion
2018 TATUM ABSOLUTELY WAS the Celtics best player
Ur casual ass probably doesn't even know kyrie and Hayward were out for the entire playoffs that year lol
5:06 bro im not a warriors or a celtics fan but your comment saying nobody gave the celtics a chance to win against the warriors in the finals is straight up revisionist history bro, u cant cut tatum that much slack. ESPN and a majority of people picked the celtics to win. i know it was still the warriors dynasty but they weren't the unstoppable KD warriors. all im trying to say is u cut him way too much slack with that comment lmao.
the entire time he went on that tangent. he was like "was he supposed to beat lebron?" instead of actually sifting through the individual games to find the same inconsistency that's happening rn. "idk where this reputation comes from" 😂
Tatum be the Kendall Roy of the NBA
Tatum is just a gamble. Don't get me wrong, he is an amazing player but his inconsistencies is what is weird about him. One night, he is a god, then the next night a slump. And that is coming from a Celts fan
Tatum is their best player, but Brown is actually their leader. Whenever you watch the locker room or huddle moments it's actually Jaylen Brown who's taking the step forward.
Smart was thier leader
Ud have to be a mega casual not to know that
5:10 barely thought they had a chance to win ??? the warriors were the underdogs wdym
I feel like throughout the video you are trying to avoid the obvious answer to your own questions. People don’t consistently expect a big games from Tatum and players don’t fear Tatum because what you already said early in the video. HE’S INCONSISTENT. And he’s good at a lot but not elite at any one skill that the defense have to really overreact to in order to stop when he’s on the court. That’s UNLESS he gets hot on off dribble step back 3s which is already a tough way to score consistently. So the defense most times can live with Tatum trying to score a lot in general. He’s just not an elite offensive option at this stage.
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@@user-gz4mq6xb2f Damn you found me on this video too? Ok I see what this is. That good ole nut hugger syndrome. You have literally nothing to counter argue against Tatum being inconsistent especially in the playoffs. Tatum is my 2nd favorite player bro I'm just not a nut hugger like you are. You gotta face the facts. F those regular season numbers and advanced BS. Celtics are expected to compete for rings. And they can't get one because Tatum keeps shrinking.
This is such a casual narrative bruh
This has been aging like wine
y’all wanna know why, it’s because he’s a Pisces, and a Pisces only do well when he has the mental edge over their opponent. Steph was also a good example, being called not clutch for so many years yet putting up scoring shows over and over.
shaq was also a good example, when he didn’t have the mental edge, he’s 0-4 in playoff series, but when he did, he’s the most dominant force in modern NbA.
U cant dismiss the 2022 celtics team like tht on paper they shudve won. Bubbles not tht weird also
For me, it's how he plays the game pushing off consistently and complains a lot at refs that makes me not believe him when he has his good games. He seems idk corny, a sensation I would never get from an anthony edwards or Luka Doncic, who i believe is the generation coming up .
Ngl mentioning Tatum complaining about refs and then praising Luka might legit be most hypocritical sports take I’ve heard in years
@@respectthagoat2k433I just think with the talent like being one of the greatest of all time. You see that with lukia, you can see the glimpse with Edwards. But idk I just can’t see it with Tatum. It’s that damn stupid step back he continues to do that holds him back for me. Because he seems to do it at the worst times. And also I don’t trust him at all in the clutch. And they kept trying to give him the Kobe comparisons but I just don’t see it. Kobe could score in way more ways than Tatum and he knew how to dominate. What does Jason Tatum dominating look like?
Stop it in those finals the Celtics were the favorites to win the chip
He’s too nice
Dudes just as inconsistent as James harden at age 25 lol
Maybe he is a great player grabbling with being an ordinary person via doubts.
Nobody expected BOS to win the finals against GSW? CAP!!!!.....I dont think Tatum is a weak playoff performer but we'd all be lying if we didnt say he could clean it up a bit & be a lil more consistent. I know BOS fans (🤮) who worry what Tatum wil do from game to game in the playoffs. You cant have that from THE GUY on the team
Tatum is a regular season shower. He’s not a playoff grower…!! 🤷♂️😂🫡
Damn
Jayson Tatum will take it to promise land
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